Very fair pricing, and I appreciate the in-depth breakdown. I don't generally do my own cabling, but it's interesting to see how you quote it out.
@hoofandpeck2 жыл бұрын
This is really great to see how someone else does pricing. Thank you very much. This is almost exactly what I do, so I feel verified ha.
@cody622932 жыл бұрын
Nice Cody! We have a similiar process and pricing to you. We also include a statement of work, Wi-Fi heatmap, and design plans with quotes. We build the design/quoting time into the project labor price to cover the engineering time to put these plans together. We also resell the Ubiquiti equipment at a 15-20 percent margin and source it for the clients. We aim for at least 50% GP on labor. I think your pricing is very competitive. You must get most of the jobs you quote. Here in Dallas, TX most companies that can do this kind of work are at $150+ a drop. I'd assume Toronto is around the same or higher.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly a lot of people in Toronto think $120-140 is a lot for a drop which is mind blowing to me. I know people who’s charge $250 a drop There are a lot of people on Facebook marketplace or kijiji that promote $75 a drop prices and people jump all over that but the quality of work is not great
@davidc76142 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody, I'm always curious for business cabling jobs, are you required to hold a certain requirement to do these. Such as knowing the building codes to run through fire spot etc if cabling is not already in place? I know by location it would be different. I've done residential cabling for a few years and thought about transition to doing business jobs.
@JohnWeland2 жыл бұрын
You've got me rethinking my career choices... lol. Awesome work bud
@xaviy6492 жыл бұрын
How much would some of you charger for a monthly maintenance for something like this??
@N3tUniverse2 жыл бұрын
Great video been looking to start my own network company, did you get a degree or have any special certifications? Ive setup friends and family but have not gone full time. What suggestions do you have with starting this type of a company. Any advise is greatly appreciated.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
When I was 15 I started in network cabling and camera installation, I then took one year of college for computer networking got my Cisco CCNA and started my CCNP and was hired by a bank now im running my own business. For starting you own business offer the services you know really well. If you arent comfortable doing something that is where you can hire contractors
@sfi_consulting56662 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! Most of my install work is in VERY non-standard environments like barns, greenhouses, sheds and other outdoor facilities so wish I could have a standard price for the cabling like you do. I do use a similar method of saying about 1 hour for every device which covers the cabling, install and configuration. The time that’s hard to say is the time spent training customers how to use the cameras and things like that. It’s interesting you have customers purchase the equipment, I think most of mine would struggle with that endeavor and the risk of them getting the wrong thing is high or constantly dealing with things that are out of stock delaying jobs all the time. I just tack on 15-30% and I handle everything, including any future warranty handling which is extremely rare.
@richacevedo6602 жыл бұрын
one thing i have done in the past is if i can find all of the hardware on Amazon i create them a "list" and share it with them.
@karlanal18 ай бұрын
I have to move to the usa,. You made about 7000 dollars just for cabeling. And everyone is like, fair pricing. In envy you
@perryuploads776 Жыл бұрын
Hi Cody, thank you for explaining how you make the quotes. I must say, you have a fair pricing. If I see the complete price then I must say it is cheap for a company. You have broad knowledge and I think you deliver good quality configurations. High quality and low price is really good. Hope you grow as a company so you can ask more money. There are 3 things to consider though: 1. Deployment and Installation, 2. Continue (maintainence and support) , 3. device end life cycle (remove device and update with new one). Perhaps you can make a subscription service for companies so you can do maintance or open a own Helpdesk and hire people to maintain all networks like a NOC (Network Operations Center). Thanks again Cody, your rock!
@albanabraham52952 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video. I wish I saw this video before performing my last job. I have been grossly under charging for installation and configurations.
@isaackvasager99572 жыл бұрын
And frankly, he is under charging as well...so you are way low then.
@beastlysun Жыл бұрын
2300 (or 1558eur) for 18 hours of work .... happy for you that someone is able to pay that rate but man .... that is steep
@El3andro2 жыл бұрын
Very exciting video! I did this in smaller scale in a voluntarily job, so it's interesting to see how much work in money I've done ;-)
@tripplentz35312 жыл бұрын
Useful stuff man! What tracer/toner would you recommend to locate wire runs?
@IslandLimer2 жыл бұрын
I found the no mark up on network gear interesting, normally I would present my price with a markup and if they want to purchase themselves, the estimate can be revised. Is it just so common in your area for clients to purchase their own equipment that you don't bother?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Ya most the time they will just buy direct instead of us buying because they know we will put 10%
@TheCuttz1984 Жыл бұрын
It would be good to see a Keystone criper for all types of keystones
@jacekj19802 жыл бұрын
For the Data run jacks in each room, up here in Chicago area we charge 150-200 per drop, that includes 2 jack in one outlet
@aaronboggs57992 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of having a house built, and my builder is charging $150/drop (Central VA region, USA). I asked about multiple ports in the same location and they quoted the same price, so 2x jacks = $300. This seemed a bit excessive to me, particularly because this is residential and the runs aren't very long. So unfortunately, I'm getting only 1 drop per room in the new place.
@karlanal18 ай бұрын
@@aaronboggs5799 why not do it yourselve
@toddknight30962 жыл бұрын
You Rock for this!!! Thanks sooo much for the honesty!
@yoe.garcia2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Pretty much my prices. Then I charge a monthly fees for maintenance, support, updates, etc.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
We offer monthly maintenance as well depending on if the customer wants it
@xaviy6492 жыл бұрын
how much would you charge?
@concerned_2023 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently working on a three level commercial office building and a two level building using Unifi routers, switches and access points to control the business network and Dahua switches, NVRs and various cameras. Their office has Ring Central but I would really like to know the capabilities of Ubiquiti's products. I'm using a different planning program but the one you're showing looks like it would work for me. Thanks for the info, I'm going to revisit my pricing.
@InmortalMe Жыл бұрын
I love the price breakdown, very professional and covering your bases. Question for Canada what kind of certs are you required?
@tysonswannell72342 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do the same thing except of products I say happy for you to buy it otherwise I'll be putting 30% on but offer warranty replacements and a instant onsite fix so if a ap goes I'll replace it with one and I'll handle the warranty
@Presidentofstate2 жыл бұрын
Just found your video today. Just moved into a house with a unify camera. Is this something i can setup myself. Is there a beginner guide?
@JasonsLabVideos2 жыл бұрын
Good video Cody, very fair pricing.. You called it First Flood :)
@paulperezzurita99562 жыл бұрын
Super Nice, thanks for another class. I have a question, where do you charge the boxes for the face plate, on the running cable cost?
@nster32 жыл бұрын
Huh, labour feels a little low for this specific estimate no?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
I thin think fair
@thegamerguys248 Жыл бұрын
Can you do more of these?
@VeloDramatic2 жыл бұрын
Always great content. You are not charging enough.
@The_Tech_Ninja2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information. Its quite interessting to see how you price your job!
@lancepelenato2 жыл бұрын
Are you including the RJ45 keystone jack for the patch panel, Single Gang Wall Plate with Mounting Bracket per drop price?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
yup
@aRndBelgianGuy2 жыл бұрын
It seems fair to me for the amount of work for such an installation (and expertise needed).
@LetsFackel2 жыл бұрын
Why would you go for a UNVR when you’re also installing a UDM SE?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
For this deployment they wanted hard drive redundancy
@kristopherleslie8343 Жыл бұрын
How do you handle documentation and diagrams?
@mananij57292 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very much informative.
@KeyBored1012 жыл бұрын
I wish I could get this pricing in New York
@AndreiNedelus2 жыл бұрын
Omg, I need to change my career right now
@richacevedo6602 жыл бұрын
Cody- thank you for another helpful video.
@wzk9211092 жыл бұрын
I tried work with Cody for overseas consult, unfortunately Timezone and all the logistics won’t work. I can’t find anyone here in Australia, anyone knows who we can use here?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Hi Archie, I see an email from you but from 2021 I do work with Australian clients but the time zones do make it tricky. If you are looking for support please send me an email and we can try and work a time out thanks
@savoy62 жыл бұрын
upwork
@El3andro2 жыл бұрын
And thank you very much for your openness and honesty :-)
@shadow.banned2 жыл бұрын
Would you use plenum even in a home environment without air ducts?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Nope usually riser cable in a home
@abdiala2632 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Next do how you find jobs? Thanks Cody!
@MactelecomNetworks Жыл бұрын
Not much to say about that. Really word of mouth and my inbound leads are almost 100% from KZbin
@mjethier2 жыл бұрын
canada charges taxes on labor?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Thamli2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's CAD instead of USD
@PatrickAustin2 жыл бұрын
Fyi...seems you forgot the keystone modules for the patch panels. Thanks for the video!
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
That’s included in the price of the cable
@PatrickAustin2 жыл бұрын
@@MactelecomNetworks ahhh makes sense now
@jobtechnologies34922 жыл бұрын
Do you not get charged tax when buying directly from the store ?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
We do 13% but that is included in the invoice
@ConorPorter2 жыл бұрын
Nice walkthrough Cody! We have a very similar approach (UniFi Design Center has made quotes *much easier*). Thank you for your transparency; it gives me the confidence to continue charging what we charge. Interesting that a 250 foot run is the same cost as a 50 foot run. Are these paired runs for 140.00?
@starburst22032 жыл бұрын
simpler to just charge a fixed cost per run
@ConorPorter2 жыл бұрын
@@starburst2203 Cat6A boxes literally have places to write footage and client in sharpie. Take a picture end of day and enter into line item on invoice. Further, the distance down wall and over and down to server rack adds a minimum of 10 feet.
@starburst22032 жыл бұрын
@@ConorPorter yeah but he is doing an estimate which means we have no clue how long of cable we need also i just charge by the drop for sockets and switches aswell it just makes my life easier and gets the job done faster
@iStiflock2 жыл бұрын
Cody this is very helpful
@dnagecko40812 жыл бұрын
Where do you work in Canada? Ie Location
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Toronto, gta area
@petestott86702 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Thanks!
@grantwilcox3302 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing Cody
@kenbarrett72152 жыл бұрын
Nice work man
@chriscruz44332 жыл бұрын
Nice work on this!
@bjoremo2 жыл бұрын
How many days will this job take in total? Trying to get a feeling of if this is cheap or expensive.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Probably between 5-8 days all depending on the cabling runa
@wvziccardi2 жыл бұрын
@Martin - Jobs like this should never be judged on time. The price is for the whole job not a day rate. If the job takes 5 days or 20 days, the price is the same. You pay for the workmanship. If someone quotes less and you receive less, is it still a good deal?
@wvziccardi2 жыл бұрын
@Martin - Jobs like this should never be judged on time. The price is for the whole job not a day rate. If the job takes 5 days or 20 days, the price is the same. You pay for the workmanship. If someone quotes less and you receive less, is it still a good deal?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
@@wvziccardi that’s correct it’s a quoted job not hourly.
@bjoremo2 жыл бұрын
@@wvziccardi Of course, I understand that. I just want to compare with my daily work as a senior software developer. Should I switch career or stay? :) I know he's a professional and can do more and better work in less time than most others in the industry. Also, how much did I save by doing this myself in my house? (2 AP and 6+ cameras but far fewer network outlets.)
@MOTO_LEW2 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👌
@jdmgtfour2 жыл бұрын
So for your pricing per drop your also including the cost of the cable?
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@MikeDeVincentis2 жыл бұрын
What about conduit? Are you including that or just installing where it's necessary?
@durakis2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeDeVincentis for this price point I would imagine not. We charge $150 - $175 a drop. If you have code requirements or preferences that increase the complexity and add additional hardware the cost goes up.
@MikeDeVincentis2 жыл бұрын
@@durakis That's what I was thinking too.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeDeVincentis we typically don’t install conduit the electrician will usually do that
@backupaddict13562 жыл бұрын
wow now I know why I do this myself
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
You think it’s to expensive?
@BDBD162 жыл бұрын
@@MactelecomNetworks IMO No, you may even be under selling yourself most US MSPs are charging more hourly, same with low voltage electricians.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
@@BDBD16 I can definitely raise my hourly and I most likely will in the coming months. For my area I feel I am competitive
@savoy62 жыл бұрын
@@BDBD16 I charge $202 per cable cat-6 but I just write it in list form with a total on the bottom. 26 cat-6 cables $5,252.00, for example. That's what gets delivered to the customer. My clients do not see my internal numbers and I haven't had anyone balk at the pricing. Of course, I'm in Orange County, CA and I still get people who say my prices are too low occassionally.
@Cy_Ebono2 жыл бұрын
I have a unifi switch connected to my cheap spectrum router that does do vlans. I created a network on vlan 20, created a port profile with vlan 1 as native. As soon as I assign that port profile to the port connecred to my laptop , I loose network connectivity. I am trying to understand why this is happening and I can ping other networks that I had set up within the switch. Can someone please help answer this questions for me. I onky have unifi switch, cloud key and my spectrum router.
@JasperSchwinghammer2 жыл бұрын
No markup on network gear wtf.
@MactelecomNetworks2 жыл бұрын
Customer usually buy the network gear direct why would I mark that up