MAD MEN - "You shouldn't have told" 1.05

[@TheLemonVampire]

DONALD DRAPER: GREASY AND CALM

[@j_bailey11]

TheLemonVampire Ugh that must be so uncomfortable to be like that in the office in a suit. Maybe it’s my ocd, but I couldn’t stand it

[@StrawberryNinjaNibbles]

* boring

[@felipeedoardo]

It's interesting to see how Joan matured as a character over the course of the show. She was always competent, but early on - especially in the first season - she was very stereotypical high-school-queen-beeish. She then became one of the best, most honest characters, if not the best.

[@MetalMadness_00]

Felipe Edoardo true Joan here enjoyed taking advantage of Peggy for her own amusement and getting the best leverage out of her on her bosses

[@andromedastar4900]

Yes, at the beginning I didn't like her because she was so much like a petty high school mean girl. But then by seasons 6 and 7 I liked her more than Peggy. I think out of all the characters, Joan was the one who grew most as a person. In season 7 when she says "I want to burn this place down" after those McCann guys treat her like an object, you can see how far she's come. You know how the writers of Mad Men talked about how it's a show about showing how these people never really change. They try to, and for a while, it may appear that they are succeeding, but then they fall into their old awful ways again. But Joan really did change, she became a wiser and better person and in the end she is someone you can really look up to...and that's what really separates her from the others.

[@luislaplume8261]

That is why I admire Christina Hendricks a gorgeous beautiful red hair doll! 😁

[@omgmono]

Honest? She fucked her way to a partner position

[@matthewbaker4088]

i always loved that bit at 1:00 "please hurry!" *slowly lights cig*

[@wjb4578]

then casually followed up with "Peggy use your noodle, you're making this so complicated", love this exchange

[@SRLovesPandas1]

The way Joan changes her voice is great

[@nelsonchereta816]

Joan always cut right through the panic and bs and gave you a simple solution.

[@Whoeverheardof]

There is NO WAY Joan didn’t already know what Don was up to. She (barely) feigned shock all for Peggys benefit-in part to teach Peggy a lesson.

[@AnnaLVajda]

It's why Joan is so cynical she resents having to fiend it's all normal and no big deal for sure Peggy who is still naive and ethical will be tormented having to work like that she's not used to it yet but determined not to end up the office "piece" like Joan she doesn't particularly care if they all stare at her ass approvingly or not look what happened first office guy she fooled around with she got knocked up she's learned her lesson early on just had to suffer a pregnancy and pretend nothing happened so she can look the other way about Don I guess. She's not as innocent or stupid as Joan thinks she just did not think Don in his position still was so immature.

[@dadunham]

I love watching these two on screen together. They work so well together; it's like a dance.

[@BlakeGildaphish76]

You DO know, and you're going to tell me.

[@surfviewgardens2396]

I surely miss that show. Lots of great entertainment.

[@infrantasi]

And it's the perfect chemistry for one of the most delightful, astonishingly beautiful female characters ever created; the greatest scenes have always been between Joan and Peggy, Roger and Mona. Classic cinema.

[@coyotesong]

Easily the best show by far on tv. Great writing, great acting by an ensemble cast. I can't wait for it to return.

[@alicemartine7743]

God I wish that Joan and Betty had had at least one scene together

[@bawoman]

They did..sort if..in season 3 when Betty is preggers and goes into the office....pretty short scenes though

[@mechantechatonne]

Betty would hate Joan and be catty and awful. It's REALLY for the best that they didn't.

[@red2977]

@@mechantechatonne Yea I'm pretty sure Don went out of his way to make sure those two didn't end up in the same room together

[@TotalTech_]

This scene is awesome. It's Joan teaching Peggy her final lesson. Don't trust anyone in that world including her. Before this scene Peggy was the student afterwards she was the master

[@pacificule]

Wow. I forgot how catty Joan was to Peggy in the beginning. Love both characters but dear lord Joan - c u next tuesday

[@Deidredit]

I kind of think that Joan is sort of lightly making fun of Peggy. She's acting as if a man having an affair is so over the top when she damn well knows this happens all the time and Peggy is just too naive to know this yet. To be fair, Peggy is still fairly new to the company at this point.

[@mthivier]

I have a different take on this scene. I think that Joan was specifically trying to teach Peggy that she should always protect her boss' privacy, even if someone tries to coerce her into divulging compromising information about him. Later in this episode, she asks Peggy where Don is, and Peggy responds, "Even if I knew, I wouldn't tell you", to which Joan replies, "Very good".

[@ennuiblue4295]

@@mthivier this.

[@seththomas9105]

@@Deidredit Add the fact that Joan had been having a affair with Roger for years at this point.

[@natalie651]

That's nice language. your mother is so proud, I'm sure.

[@afrosensei5308]

0:54 "NO." I'm 💀

[@angelcitygirl]

Joan knows EVERYTHING that goes on in that place and she knows what Don is up to. She knows what they are all up to. So not to tell Joan??? She knew/knows.

[@wjb4578]

Yeah Joan definitely knew about Don; this seems more like a loyalty test for Peggy (that she failed) than Joan trying to get some juicy office gossip.

[@julieerin115]

Joan was right.

[@mthivier]

I think she did that (demanded that Peggy tell her about Don's whereabouts, only to reprimand her for having done so) to teach Peggy to protect her boss' privacy in the future.

[@MetalMadness_00]

Mar Thivierge I’m sure she just loved listening to gossip and wanted to make Peggy squeal just because she thought it was amusing seeing the secretary confused and fearful plus now she had firepower to get Don to do something for her in the near future.

[@TheRightToBeBold]

LOL. Thoroughly richly entertaining, as if Shakespeare suddenly came back and was writing for TV.

[@fangsbites]

My favorite scene from the entire series. "You shouldn't have told me." Joan is tremendous. Thanks for posting this.

[@JudgeJulieLit]

In the series' episode one, scene one, Joan giving new girl Peggy a tour of the office tells Peggy that Paul Kinsey was Joan's romantic "mistake."

[@laurenjcoates]

"use your noodle" i love joan lmao

[@JudgeJulieLit]

Joan's "noodle" could not write ad copy, nor excogitate campaigns.

[@regularity2556]

She has such great posture

[@dawidwas]

The judgment is precise

[@Rioth]

Awesome acting!

[@bliss149]

Joan has to be one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

[@TimoteoDeBaum]

I don’t have the best responses to social cues and situations (I’m an introvert) and I get awkward. Very realistic office place situation even today and brilliant scene.

[@TitanSea]

Joan is sooooo beautiful. I think this show will launch her career. She's a good actress too.

[@yandhi5016]

12 years ago damn

[@rightuppercut1426]

Titan Sea : 13 years later we can safely say that it didn’t.

[@red2977]

@@rightuppercut1426 Brutal

[@theodoremcfail7748]

I'm glad someone else noticed Joan's insecurities as well.

[@infrantasi]

I'm 65 and gay, and worked as a typist in New York in the 60s in a corporate office, and there was a curvaceous, seductive siren named "Betty" who was the "executive secretary" to the COO, and she would strut down the hall to men's catcalls and love it. She also used to give her boss his afternoon "massage" at 2:30, every day - door locked of course.

[@nairbiac2461]

i love you old timers xD

[@orale_]

Ever get mugged?

[@jjohnsengraciesmom]

OK what would you have done in this situation ?

[@Letoqat]

Is you being gay relevant your story ?

[@Djinnk042]

@@Letoqat It separates him from the men who catcalled and/or expected something from her?

[@solarfire1988]

Christina is gorgeous, but it makes me sad that the the comments that receive more thumbs up are the ones that compliment only her beauty, especially her body! Come on people she's a very good actress too! She's Not Just A Pretty Woman!

[@REDEEMERWOLF]

White knight

[@lombremic4840]

You just said exactly what you said not to do. I don't care if this comment was made in 2011. Shut the fuck up.

[@Kwekwe]

Am I the only one that feels season 1 was the Joans best season and they have gradually decreased her characters role as the season go on? She didnt do that much in season 3, heres hoping she gets more to do this season. The dynamic between her and the English was great a couple weeks ago.

[@solarfire1988]

@qopus66 you're right, she's one of the best. I still maintain my view though. She's so beautiful people forget she's also a wonderful actress!

[@luislaplume8261]

I love this conversation they don't write like this anymore. Hollywood is dead. Even I can write a better dialogue than today's script writers.

[@wjb4578]

Well then, put pen to paper and entertain us. As you say there's a dearth of writing talent so if you are as good as you say your scripts will get published. Entertain us!

[@luislaplume8261]

@jonathanbirch2022 Apparently Mickey Mouse turned into a Dirty Rat!

[@dadatobe]

@chrisludwig29 agreed, the flaws on each character make them so real.

[@nosayy]

Dang Joan!

[@anonymousrex8088]

Back when Peggy aspired to be a good secretary.

[@lslmadi]

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[@Yoganao]

Apologize for "just how stupid you are", Joan is always abusive to Peggy. Joan has no friends for a reason.

[@MsVorpalBlade]

"Just how stupid you are" is said ironically, dumbass

[@Diimmi]

Joan is Amazing.. Who would've thought a woman like that ACTUALLY exists.. Betty Draper's real pretty too tho

[@jasonlefler3456]

I know everyone wanted to see a love scene between Don and Joan. I was a bit keen on one between Joan and Peggy myself...

[@F_Tim1961]

high boots and whips maybe??

[@dawidwas]

I should say what I understand the silence is a Blend of wasted time

[@omegakyo]

I know who the characters are, SEASON PREMIERE TONIGHT!

[@sarika811]

Lmaooooooooo Joan is such a bitch. I love her!

[@BeavisChipolte]

Don and Joan on a desk would have been epic.

[@F_Tim1961]

With all this bed jumping cr_p going down.. how did any work ever get done.. how did any ads ever get to air ??...And Peggy was shocked that Don came back all greasy - hell maybe he was at the gym - perhaps he just needed some ... relaxation . ? I KNOW !!! "Cohen from the Mail room" (see the Jewish dept store episode ) was in fact keeping focus and running the place !! ha ha. T E Fidler.

[@JudgeJulieLit]

Cohen was not a creative ad man.

[@F_Tim1961]

@@JudgeJulieLit "He sees this woman.. he came back all greasy and calm" Red : Mock shock - "No !" ==================== It doesn't get much better than this. Cohen from the Mail room did not write the script for this genius of show either, only Ethan Cohen his cousin, twice removed. Pure brillig. You should look up the compilation of Ginsberg and ditto the Dick Whitman Chronicles. I wonder of Whitman is a play on poor whiteman in a way ? There are all sorts of threads in this narrative. TEF

[@SHERmeleon]

I hope not. That's so common.

[@GnuTex]

Joan is one hot redhead.

[@JulienKoestel]

I think you mean Peggy..not betty..betty is Don's blond wife.

[@AndreasZimmerman]

@chrisludwig29 I think you're confusing Betty with Peggy

[@hopelessdreamr]

@chrisludwig29 if by betty you mean peggy?

[@Urves]

Joan is a sly cat! She always has a game to the name...

[@iconicdog]

@solarfire1988 She is a fabulous actress. But she has such an astonishing physical presence (and the way she presents herself- the posture, the walk- is also a credit to her acting skill) that it just makes you stare in flabbergasted delight. She represents a lost feminine ideal in our modern world, and again, it is such a joy to see her that sometimes folks can forget the art that goes into the character.

[@JudgeJulieLit]

Like Western Civ's lost knightly ideal. Why don't you men wear medieval iron mail and helmets to work, to reinspire women?

[@KellyGreen5555]

@jdnbmio Flour? What?

[@footy104]

owned!

[@yunahera]

And when you say Betty you mean Peggy, of course?(!)

[@JudgeJulieLit]

* Joan

[@veejonesify]

But Joan hardly ever talks to Betty!

[@wjb4578]

Come to think on it, besides Roger I don't think Betty ever much interacted with Don's office folk. She was always off tormenting Sally or flirting with the 12 yo neighbor's kid.

[@Jeffmorgan83]

I like Peggy, she`s so beautiful!

[@ananse77]

Peggy? Beautiful? She has a face like a hatchet. Such a long chin and jutting nose. And then those ears that jut up and out off her head like she's an alien.

[@JudgeJulieLit]

@@ananse77 Do post your portrait.

[@omegakyo]

What? How does Joan prey upon Betty, when?

[@misssmisssymaria]

“It’s probably what I would’ve done anyways” Than, why the hell is she asking Joan for advise?

[@JudgeJulieLit]

Peggy is fibbing, to cover her discombobulation at her own panicked~incompetent solicitation of Joan's advice.

[@omegakyo]

Betty is pretty, but she has too many issues w/ maturity and stuff. Joan is hot and she acts like a woman instead of a girl.

[@fightwithfire18]

omegakyo Joan is stuck in a Barbie fantasy. She’s more childish than Peggy by a long shot.

[@stevemcgill2278]

What plain looking women.

[@ykMMD]

????

[@griefandhighdelight692]

Talking about your mom?