The BEST Budget Arcade Stick? The NEW 8bitdo Arcade Stick Versus The Mayflash F500 Elite!

[@Madlittlepixel]

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[@RicardoGonzalez-ms3dg]

Just got a mayflash f300 elite, updated the firmware to make work on the genesis mini but had no luck, did i missing something?

[@dustyshoopman845]

Hey I bought one of the Mayflash F500 Elite sticks after your first video about them. I loved it so much and wanted some 2 player action so after a while I bought a second one. Well the second one came with ALOT more stuff. My first one had all the same as yours, but the second one had a few more cords with it, some round rubber feet to screw into the holes in the bottom and also an octagonal gate. Just thought it was cool and worth a mention. Keep making the great videos 🤘

[@mrlyles2002able]

I went with the Mayflash 500 Elite. Once I changed the square to to the octagonal, it's been a great stick. The stick and buttons have that premium feel.

[@DJJunkfoodJay]

Just bought the 8bit today, first arcade style controller since my Dreamcast days.

[@tilla77]

I have the original version of the 8bitdo arcade stick modded with Sanwa parts and a tighter spring. Works with everything. Best of both worlds

[@AmolKify]

Which parts do 8BitDo use

[@davilasvas6178]

Thank you! I'll go with Mayflash F500

[@xKrikket]

Can't wait for you to review the "Vibration Strap". Would be kinda interesting to use when I play Mortal Kombat.

[@Madlittlepixel]

LOL when I saw the price and 1 left on Amazon figured screw it, mite as well check it out even though I think its kind of weird.

[@lit_wick]

The latency on the 8bitdo makes perfect sense. The switch doc sucks for wires connections. The pro controller has the same feature of it working better wirelessly

[@jam237]

Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers! You deserve it dude!

[@lolakyle8]

One problem with the Mayflash is that the bottom are 'exposed' metal. My experience with older Madcatz stick that have metal bottom is they tend to rust, especially when use it on your lap (the sweat from your lap 'amplifies' the rusting process, so-to-speak). The 8bitdo doesn't suffer on that because the bottom is plastic. So, if you tend to hold on to your stick for quite a while (5 years for example), imo the 8bitdo is better. Moreover, it have a great 'baseline' for a stick (except for the buttons, which I recommended swapping it to better parts. Fyi, you don't have to buy the entire button, just buy the switch and use the stock plunger and body). And, if you mostly play on PC/Mac/RPi, the 8bitdo is much more appealing (both looks and connectivity/wireless).

[@DanzoSrife]

I'll just remember to put wd40 on the bottom if I buy. Thanks for the tip

[@Radial9Gaming]

You can remove rust

[@romeozkauba1329]

Use Clear Acrylic spray paint on the metal part, and the rust issue is fixed.

[@ikorus8776]

Why your lap sweating tho?

[@retroman7331]

I don't like the look of the 8bitdo stick but I like that the stick is further away from the buttons than the Mayflash. I find that the when the stick is far from directly in front of your elbow you end up moving up but in reality you are moving on an NE angle. They shouldn't make sticks so close to the buttons. If I ever make my own, I'm putting the stick and buttons further apart than these.

[@superfarful]

That's always my problem my favorite stick is the dreamcast green goblin the stick was far away from the buttons

[@drifter2185]

100K subs! Congratulations from the Netherlands 👌🏻 Really love your channel! Quickly becoming one of my most beloved retro channels on YT.

[@nickstarlingch]

Thanks for the review! I ordered mine a couple days ago, THEN started watching reviews, ha. Seems I had a good hunch with this one.

[@RetroCak]

I just recently picked up an F500. I went with it because of the superior compatibility. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it works with the finicky Astro City Mini. Just connect a standard AC controller to the USB port, and you have an arcade stick for your Mini.

[@garagelifee3460]

100k !!!! You did it sir, well deserved! Your content is fantastic and I enjoy watching daily!

[@Chedmond]

Yep, I have an original F500 Mayflash stick. Yes, I pretty much have all the systems it's compatible for. Plugging in a controller or adapter plug can be damned annoying. It works, but sometimes you have to work at it, honestly. And as for the original F500? Were you complaining about the button area caving in with repeated use with the original 8bitdo stick? yeah, I've noticed that with the F500. IMO, the sticks are two different beasts aimed at two different audiences. I bought the 8bitdo stick for the convenience of hooking it up to a bluetooth android device, and I don't regret it. I don't think I'd use a wireless stick to play anything competitive multiplayer, but for emulating a SNES game on my tablet? The 8bitdo is gold.

[@rxzero00]

You can easily replace snap in buttons with screw on buttons with the F500 while the 8Bitdo one does not have enough space to add them unless you took the whole PCB off and maybe use a dremel tool to shave the excess plastic. It's not really ultra moddable. I would say get the KOWAL mounting plate for the stick and F500 would be more ultra moddable than the 8Bitdo one. I rather use another stick than either of the two and heck I already have a 2.4 GHz stick for my PC, which is the Qanba Q1W which I got new for $60. Qanba stock parts are not that good but it would probably be the same if not equal with the 8Bitdo one but I added Seimitsu parts in it because I like Seimitsu parts better than Sanwa. I could add new art to my stick but I would have to custom build the plexi since there is none made for the Q1W but it seems more doable than whatever you would have to do for the 8Bitdo. In terms of wired I got the Qanba Q4RAF used for $60 which is good as it has stocked Sanwa parts. So I have sticks that I prefer to use and I just play fighting games on PC which both can be easily used.

[@KC-xu6vw]

Excellent video exactly what i was looking for. I will be using your link to purchase the elite. Congratulation on 100k you earned it quality videos & no BS.

[@overdriver99]

although this is 2 yeas old review as of today.. this is the best review for comparing two joysticks. Thanks! man.. you are the best reviewer!!! specially showing inside of both of them.. coool!

[@SkyScourgeGod]

I would personally side with the F500 mostly because of how customizable it is and because of how many consoles it works on. I've got two of them and I also use Brook adapters to play them on other consoles like my Neo Geo CD, PC Engine, PS1 & 2 and Sega Genesis. I'm planning to get Brook adapters for my Dreamcast and Saturn to use the F500 on to. It's really a lot of fun.

[@jesseboy7951]

100K, Ron, congrats, dude, well deserved!

[@austinreise]

Good vid. Thanks for sharing. Just to share some updates 3yrs on. Compatibility with consoles. Non issue for both. Brook Wingman and Mayflash Magic are great adapters. 8Bitdo is great to start with. Cost lesser than F500Elite. Could upgrade to tournament grade Sanwa parts whenever you desire. The biggest advantage is wireless capability. F500Elite is good if wireless feature is not important to you. It has already set you up with tournament grade Sanwa parts. You could already enjoy it feeling like a pro straight out of the box. Personally, as an avid gamer that enjoy the arcade feel and not big on competitions, I'd go with 8Bitdo. Wireless rocks. But if you are getting the arcade stick mainly for fighting games, consider looking into HitBox rather than a fight stick. It's winning over more and more players in tournaments due to certain advantage it has over traditional fight stick.

[@guesshi1826]

Very valuable update!!

[@facundosoler2200]

Awesome review of both ! I was just wanting to buy an arcade stick for the first time and the main option here in New zealand is the 8BitDO but I'll try to get the Mayflash F500 first. Thank you !

[@MisterMaster4life]

Great stuff, thanks for sharing! Really sick Samurai Showdown art on that Mayflash! To me thats the biggest pro for any stick, customisable art. Simply makes a stick something more than just a controller. It makes you want to look at it and play some games. On the other hand wireless and even 2.4ghz is definitely a win over wired. Yet the option to place customised art seals the deal for me. Gotto love it.

[@jeff15]

You did it !!!! Congrats on ur 100k journey 👏 I've started watching you from early raspberry pi days and always knew you'll get up there. Keep them coming. !!!!

[@Madlittlepixel]

Thanks a ton!

[@ricksmith6693]

Congratulations MLP on the 100k subscriber's 🎉🏆

[@kidoflp]

The new Samurai Showdown... definitely my favorite game beside Street fighter series. Cool Artwork..

[@cesaru3619]

ALL I CAN THINK WHEN I SEE AN ARCADE JOYSTICK WITH ACRYLIC BUTTONS IS: HADOKEN! HADOKEN! SHORYUKEN!!!

[@jasonwebb7978]

I bought an 8BitDo one on special last week and it looks like they have changed the bottom section. The metal has a much larger cutout in it under the stick. I'm assuming that's to help with wider stick compatibility. Just thought I'd mention it as I only just noticed.

[@Harveeee]

Hi. I bought mine last month and same, the metal is pretty much "removed" in the joystick section of the bottom part to accommodate larger sticks. I wonder if it can already fit a Korean lever like Crown 309MJ? I'm planning to put a Korean lever on mine if that's possible. I'm asking because I haven't really bought one since I'm not sure if it'll fit.

[@yourbestyouarelove]

I bought the F500 Elite specifically for my Xbox One. I love it❤

[@maybetoby]

I love the 8BitDo Arcade Stick. I bought it recently 👍

[@ant1kryst]

i have the 8bit do. swapped it with all sanwa parts + octagon gate. now i want a more premium custom joystick but its really hard letting that 2.4 ghz wireless go :(

[@Ghostyx1989]

i happy with my 8bitdo one but good comparison more options never hurts

[@wyn8758]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...! The F500 works with the Genesis Mini?! Been looking on forums and you tube for ever for an arcade stick that works with the Genesis Mini and nobody EVER mentions the super common F500 stick- the answer is always "nothing works"?! Yet, here's Madlittlepixel using it in this video! ...Can't believe it - awesome! (Is it just USB plug and play?) Review OF THE YEAR! Thank you. Thank you!

[@Madlittlepixel]

😂 they put out a firmware update a long while ago that added Genesis Mini compatibility. I actually filmed a video testing it some months ago but never uploaded it for some reason, I think I forgot and didn't edit it together.. my bad.

[@wyn8758]

@@Madlittlepixel Hey, man...thrilled to get the info. today! Dig your videos. Thanks again

[@randyiron2]

I keep checking to see if you made it to 100k! So close!!

[@PackageFromChina]

I must say... I would love to try this stick out. Only my TR stick I build I can also use it on every console I own. Cost maybe 2x the price of the 8-bitdo, I did have my choice for adding my own buttons and joystick 😄

[@enriquebonis6041]

The new revision of ther 8bitdo that comes with philips screws, even fits a Seimitsu LS-32 without any changes. Just use the plate that comes with the 8bitdo. Before you used to have to dril a hole or sand the plastic. It also bits the LS-55, LS-56, LS-58, etc. as they are even smaller.

[@pepealexandre]

100k !! Can we now have that episode with you wearing the ridonkulous Nintendo cap ??

[@cordellmaniac]

Congrats maan! Well deserved! Been following since the early days. One of the best content creator on KZbin!

[@jpixels4042]

Really enjoying your content, both on modern consoles and especially the retro/fpga goodness! I also just got my nt mini noir, loose cartridge slot and all. 👍

[@justinwiedrich6235]

Congratulations on 100k

[@Madlittlepixel]

Thanks!

[@mariogarbey8933]

Congratulations, 100k subscribers already

[@Madlittlepixel]

Thanks

[@KaptainKerl]

latency on wireless controllers has been better than wired for decades. its absolutely not unheard of lol

[@richards_256]

Lolol the part of the vid when you silently showed us the purchase process on amazon for vibration wrist strap. It's like you were secretly whispering to us, "Review coming soon."

[@retrobros9684]

No soldering required for 8bitdo. Buy a 5pin harness for 2 dollars. That's all you'll need, no soldering

[@d9_1056]

Just bought the 8bitdo for xbox. Looking forward to trying it out.

[@MisterMaster4life]

On a side note, had the Hori pro rap 4 with plenty of space to rest the wrist and a custom arcade cabinet without much space to rest the wrist. Definitely prefer some extra space. When playing longer sessions the cabinet was an assault on my wrists....maybe that's just me getting old... ..

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

100k subs by this weekend bro! Congratulations!🍾🎊🎉🎈

[@Madlittlepixel]

Currently sitting at 99,991 😮

[@segagenesis1989]

@@Madlittlepixel Congratulations at hitting 100k big man! :)

[@Hiphonics1]

Should of mentioned price. May Flash elite is 150 bucks. 8btido is 120. I just recently bought my 8bitdo for 75 bucks on Woot brand new. 8bitdo a great starter option. This was specifically for Xbox and PC

[@legin3753]

congrats on 100k well deserved

[@WitnessBrutality]

Congratulations on the 100k \m/

[@winstonsmith478]

What are the quality of the controls of the 8bitdo versus the Standard F500 since they are the only ones in the same price range? You say that "you may" want to swap out the standard F500 controls. Are they THAT bad and how do the 8bitdo controls compare? You said you'd go for the F500, but didn't say if it was the standard or elite version. I assume the elite, but it's not in the same price range as the 8bitdo. And if the standard F500 controls are so bad that they need to be replaced, that's effectively both a price increase and a hassle increase over the 8bitdo.

[@SnackyCakess]

I have both and the stock buttons feel about the same. I think the stock stick feels a little better on the F500 and they give you an octogontal gate as well. The 8bitdo one only comes with a square gate.

[@renzorosciano7617]

8bitdo Arcade stick works on my SNES mini with a 8bitdo classic Bluetooth dongle

[@honusonai6246]

waiting for my 8bitdo V3 arcade stick delivery. Will mod it with IL euro stick (bat) and Sanwa OBSF buttons (30mm). Cannot await to play fighting and retro games on Switch with it. Wireless and modding are must haves for me.

[@Mantorp86]

Thank you for the comparison 🙂 great video!

[@DebitAdams]

So close to 100k

[@joshmiller887]

100k! That’s what I’m talkin bout!

[@andrewbutler9533]

Nice comparison video. I've just received the F500 elite as a gift and so far really like it. Two questions for you if I may, firstly I noticed in your video that you have replaced your restrictor gate with a Sanwa version, is it much better that the off-brand one that came with the stick? Secondly, have you updated the stick to the latest firmware and if you have, did you notice any improvement to imput lag? Many thanks.

[@kenseryew]

What? F500 works in PS4 if you connect controller.. you can also buy a dongle for it so you dont have to connect a controller anymore..

[@ArnaudDANGIEN]

I would like to understand how to set it up in Recalbox (Raspberry Pi) On the Arcade Stick, how should I position the 2 "main" buttons (top left)? 1) switch mode: switch / off/ X-input? (obviously to switch off the stick, you must position this button on "off") 2) control stick switch: left-stick - d-pad - right-stick (I have absolutely no idea what this is all about) And in Recalbox, how do you configure this stick? (I know the "joysticks" and "configure a joystick" menu, but then?)

[@briannorthFW]

Congratulations on the 100k!!!!

[@Madlittlepixel]

Thank you!!

[@briannorthFW]

@@Madlittlepixel maybe 100k stream celebration???

[@GaryMeacher]

Congrats on 100k!

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

The Mayflash arcade stick controller series is gimmicky because you have to plug the Mayflash sticks into regular game console controllers. It's like plugging a Wii or Wii U arcade stick controller into a Wii Remote/Wii Remote Plus!

[@OneOfTheLostOnes]

I think saying "the mayflash has more compatibility... (you just need to plug in an extra controller or buy an adapter)" Is kinda of a cheat. By that logic you can also get the 8bitdo to work with anything if you're willing to pay for adapters and EXTRA stuff. The 8bitdo is not great... but it's probably more bang for the buck than the mayflash F500. Especially if you're playing on PC which for me is the premium emulator platform.

[@RyuFalchionX]

This was a solid review! Agree with everything you said here.

[@citrus546]

Nice you got 100k! Congrats

[@Madlittlepixel]

Thank you~

[@Bakanineinstein]

I have the standard Mayflash 500 that I threw some blue crome silent Sanwa buttons into alongside a hybrid Sanwa clone stick made from the Bit Bang Shuriken PCB and four 50gf Omron Microswitch's cradled in the OTTO v5 alongside a 4lb tension spring attached to a dark blue Link EX Grove... It might sound like overkill to some people but for me the Sanwa sticks just feel too cheap especially considering the amount of money you are throwing down on this overglorified digital control scheme anyway...

[@valtearalte0657]

how many hours can you play with the 8bitdo in wireless mode?

[@andydavidson1278]

Would you rate the Mayflash F300 Elite as an alternative Ron?

[@carter_v8760]

Do you think this will ever be compatible with PS4. Some kind of way to patch through salary

[@joshikus]

A Brooks 360 -> PS4 adapter should work when you set the stick to X-Input mode.

[@Ncc-tt3gh]

Have u try th 8bitdo stick with the 8bitdo Bluetooth adapter sure u could get it to work on consoles

[@BrianS756]

Thinking of getting that vibrating wrist strap for my girlfriend for Christmas. That way I can keep her satisfied, while I play games all day. 😂 And congrats on 100 k. Keep on grinding brotha.

[@smokegames1179]

gonna buy a 8bitdo used with sanwa stick and sanwa buttons for $60 used wish me luck

[@YoshiCookie]

Does the Elite still have a square gate? Or did they install the octagon by default?

[@Nin10Guy]

Can the 8bitdo Arcade Stick work on a PS3 or PS4 by hooking it up to a Mayflash Magic S Pro controller converter? If the 8bitdo Arcade Stick is recognized as a Nintendo Switch Pro controller, then I don't see why it wouldn't work on those other consoles as the Mayflash Magic S Pro is designed to sync a Switch Pro controller with other consoles.

[@pepealexandre8815]

100k!! CONGRATS!!

[@LuKeTt__]

Hello. After 3 years, is 8bit still worth buying?

[@RedBoyke.]

hey pixel you know what 8 gate i can buy in the eu for the new 8bitdo arcade stick?i might also buy sanwa stick and buttons but i never had sanwa before. this would be my first arcade sttick. i realy wanted something wireless

[@mknightstalkerx]

Will the 8bitdo arcade stick work with the, CronusMAX usb device? In order to get it to work, on the other systems?

[@xaviermccloud4586]

What would stop the 8bitdo from working on a PS4-PS5 in bluetooth mode?

[@Madlittlepixel]

That it doesnt have the PlayStation encoding to run... like you cannot use just any random bluetooth controller on the PlayStation, some work some don't. Mostly they need to have been designed to work on the 4 or 5 to have that compatibility and this was not designed with that in mind.

[@xaviermccloud4586]

@@Madlittlepixel Damn this is such a let down. Do you know of any adapters that would let it work?

[@crafty5115]

The mad lad did it!

[@HorrorCollector138]

My wife and I love your channel. Does the F500 elite work with the steam deck if it's docked? Our steam deck is coming tommrow and thank you for making the set up video for emulation. Thank you

[@Madlittlepixel]

Yes it does. Appreciate the kind words btw! Have a good one

[@Bruuuuuh620]

99.9k. MY GOD!!!!!

[@Madlittlepixel]

currently sitting at 99980 😮

[@matchesmalone79]

Showing 100k on my end now!

[@Bruuuuuh620]

@@Madlittlepixel congrats man! 100k! 🚨🚨🚨🚨

[@jameskosusnik1102]

@@Madlittlepixel congrats on hitting 100k subscribers Ron 👏

[@somethings-shiny3376]

Where do u get your art for your f500???

[@chriswaters834]

The 8bitdo def looks cooler.

[@gihi6229]

Can you emulate keyboard keys with macro buttons? or red ones? Thank you.

[@Alton4000]

I think it could work on other consoles thru an official and third party receivers

[@kdog6892]

Is the may flash compatability with the megadrive mini,pc engine mini, neo geo mini and evercade vs

[@SubZero-nu3pb]

If that's just a monitor, where do you have the game in it??

[@ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s]

Rumble strap on review coming soon.

[@antonymcewan9987]

I need a stick for the PC Engine Mini. Wonder if the Mayflash works with it?

[@lyianx]

Just to keep it in context F500 Elite = $140 8Bitdo = $90 The F500 "working with other consoles" isnt a super good selling point if you have to use a 2nd controller along with it (creating clutter, more wires) or making an additional purchase (for each console type) to get it to work, driving up the total cost of the unit.

[@esprithk]

actually in HK and China, F500 Elite is on sale for US$88 only.

[@98-carlmarkmarak22]

$140 with sanwa parts

[@stephenang499]

Why do you need to de-solder the joystick from the 8 Bitdo stick? Just remove it completely and replace it with a Sanwa JLF which uses 5 pin connectors.

[@mccleandazza4618]

I heard the 8bitdo does work on the 360

[@DeclanGreen]

Just wondering if the 8bitdo is compatible with the MiSTer FPGA computer and would that be wired or wireless?

[@OldsXCool]

100k! YOU DEED IT!

[@Friggle_Dee]

Time for 100k soiree!!

[@Whitededevil]

Where can I order myf custom background?

[@JonathanTaylor85]

I'd like to get an 8bitdo, but there's no PS5 version yet. Might not ever be either :/.

[@Ghost-Chatting]

I just got an 8bit do arcade stick for Christmas its great on PC but very dodgy console compatibility

[@Ishin69]

how are torx screws a pain?