Can a Pellet Grill Fool a Texas Pitmaster?

[@scironmike]

I use a Cookshack FEC100 and there is an accessory called the PA026 that lets me put wood chucks on top of the fire box. I also use a Pitts & Spitts smoke cage and throw on wood chunks here and there when I remember. I think the smoke flavor is indistinguishable from an offset smoker.

[@All2Skitzd]

Last time someone said that about their FEC100 they was really cocky about it and Jeremy asked if they wanted to do a video to compare but they went silent.

[@Jonbob836]

Every time you and Bradley get together it's a good time! I'm so happy the inner scientist let the data show the results as they are and not let your preferences shine.

[@benwagoner9741]

Great video! I do think you should have used the same method of wrapping for both. That would have been a better comparison IMO.

[@billbryant1288]

Yes. Much more scientific if there are fewer variables.

[@BiffBuffchest]

I think the same person should have prepared both.

[@wesleymargeson1134]

I think they made the right decision. This is more like a throw down between the methods. Do the best you can with each cooker so people can judge what works for them, since the best approach isn'tthesame for each..

[@robertjason6885]

@@wesleymargeson1134 Agree...I posted differently above...Jeremy explained it should be how each expert of HIS method should have free reign..including the trim. I agree with your assessment as well.

[@UnchartedFoodie]

Totally get what you're saying.. I think our ultimate goal was to see if we could full a legit "pitmaster" into thinking the Camp Chef brisket was actually done on an offset. So we wanted to cook that Camp Chef brisket in the very best method for a pellet grill.

[@allenbateman3518]

Thank you Jeremy for doing this.. So many folks slam a pellet smoker. A lot of times it is so much easier convenient to throw any protein on one and just go about your day instead of having to sit and "baby sit" an off smoker. They are both great at works best for you. I love them both...

[@KawaRider88]

What pellets and wood chunks did you use for camp chef??!!

[@JordanAllenClark]

THIS. This needs to be in the description @madscientistbbq

[@jessiesineath7702]

I have the woodwind pro as well. Yeah its not a offset smoker but still gives of really good smoke. I noticed when you added the wood chunks you turned the handle right off the bat, i always let mine burn about 5-10 minutes first then turn it so it can smolder. Im still pretty new to this smoker, i was just under the impression to leave the lever down first so the chunks can catch fire

[@briansupermag3918]

Good video. Shows how well pellet grills are producing great BBQ. I absolutely love my Lone Star Grillz pellet smokers. You couldn't get me to use any other pellet grill.

[@TheGRUMPSY]

Lone Star Grillz built in Conroe, Tx is a pellet smoker built like an offset and cooks like one! Makes cooking fun again.

[@bigboylife5463]

It also costs a mint

[@bryanin82]

Bought a camp chef woodwind pro after Jeremy's first video. Can confirm it makes amazing BBQ!

[@All2Skitzd]

How's it feel, I was going to buy one but the weight to price ratio kinda scared me.

[@HolmesFans2]

I'd love to see you try a Masterbuilt Gravity smoker

[@All2Skitzd]

He did already

[@ollygee]

Would be good to throw a Masterbuilt gravity series in there next time !

[@johnanderson6614]

So on a regular pellet grill could you put some charcoal in a pan and add some wood chunks or chips?

[@All2Skitzd]

It would have to be pretty big. My boss gave me a pellet grill and I had the most fun trying to make it cook like an offset before I lost interest. Most of the air coming in has been spent on running firebox so it's hard to maintain without throwing off the temp.

[@Technickly1477]

So have you ever done a comparison to a Pitboss Brand pellet smoker. This could be a whole series…you testing stick burners V diff brands of pellet smokers

[@BrianPrendergast]

I've never seen you guys try a gravity feed charcoal. Seems like it's the best of both worlds. I love mine but curious what the pros could do with it.

[@networkn]

I'd love to see you give a gravity fed charcoal smoker a go. I had a pellet grill I loved, and then I tried a Masterbuilt and it blew my mind. I still think a pellet grill is a fantastic purchase.

[@deanweiss7913]

I've had my mb560 for about 3 months now and I love it. It's my first smoker and so far I've done 3 briskets, meatloaf, ribs, chicken and all were really good. I think it'd be really hard to mess up a cook on it.

[@networkn]

@@deanweiss7913 I've got the mb800 and I love it too.

[@All2Skitzd]

He already has. He did an Oklahoma Joe gravity fed and the Masterbuilt gravity fed.

[@jasonprice6096]

Enjoyed the content... but for future reference, could you reduce the volume of the music? I was reducing volume 3-4 clicks whenever the music came on... then I couldn't understand the voices, so I raised it back up again...

[@MadScientistBBQ]

Got it. Will look into it

[@jonathanchausse3183]

Didn't bother me, but I like loud music, and didn't have anyone around to bother.

[@Flipflop437]

@@MadScientistBBQdude, this guy is just being pedantic. I did not notice the volume being a problem at all.

[@emmgeevideo]

It's just like seasoning... The right amount is good. Too much spoils the product. The music was really annoying.

[@AustinBComstock]

He's right though the music is actually too loud

[@mello188]

@smokeandvine (Carlos Bradley) can you do a video on what exactly you did to cook the brisket on the woodwind pro, like technique, how long was cook time, and what to look for during the cook?

[@TheQuailtail]

Looked at your smoker this afternoon. You were next door to me cooking and filming. Subscribed to your channel. Versailles KY

[@markmelton8676]

Great video. I have a WW 24 (not pro) and love it. Going to pull the trigger on the pro soon. I never would have realized you were from my hometown. I was watching this video & my wife walked in and said "Jeremy" LOL. She went to high school with you. Small world man!! Keep up the content!!

[@MadScientistBBQ]

Haha so funny! What is her name?

[@markmelton8676]

@@MadScientistBBQ Let me figure out how to message you privately

[@MadScientistBBQ]

@@markmelton8676 you can just send on Instagram and my wife will find it for me

[@kmb1]

I've been saying it to all of my purist friends for a while, the pellet grill's game is rising. It's almost there and a few tweaks can make a big difference. Glad to see Jeremy's changing his mind on the pellet grills. Looks like Brad is too.

[@Mike-jv4rz]

Agreed- hear more good thing's- for me personally I like my stick burner, I like to tend the fire, some call it too much work but for me it's therapeutic.

[@kmb1]

@@Mike-jv4rz If you've got the time, tending to the fire is definitely therapeutic! Unfortunately for me, family life just doesn't allow for it anymore.

[@Mike-jv4rz]

I get that, at least you have an alternate ...@@kmb1

[@mybook1234]

Awesome video! On the fence with the woodwind pro. What smoke level setting was the woodwind set to? 10? Also what type of wood chunks did you use?

[@UnchartedFoodie]

Pretty sure it was set to 7.. it's my usual "go-to" setting.

[@mybook1234]

@@UnchartedFoodie that’s good to know! Is 10 “too” much smoke?

[@blink555]

Defeated by an Easy-Bake Oven!

[@rexxpedition]

Do you think there is a difference between the 24 and 36? Like would the 36 be better as it allows you to get further away from the heat since the firebox is not centered like it is on the 24”?

[@Iloveplantedtanks]

Can a smoke daddy stick burning heat diffuser on a pit boss turn out meat that just as good from the woodwind pro?

[@brentjones7085]

1/4 through the video and I’m thinking you should have one person do all the trimming and one person do all the seasoning. That way neither is different and no one knows where each brisket is going for the test.

[@joeswingle7463]

Need a woodwind pro VS masterbuilt gravity

[@MasterMoore2010]

Good morning. Love the video. Needed to know the details on temp. And what pellets you used? Normally you would go over that in the past. Wondering why you didn't do it on this video?

[@dc6953]

Can you do a video on a rotisserie smoker like the ones available at M and M (the company who partnered with Goldie to make that offset with a tube to connect the firebox)

[@jimmyg3855]

Please do a cheap pellet grill with a smoke daddy on it! I’m dying to see if it will do the same as the WW and I’m an all charcoal and wood guy!

[@jacobtezak9569]

Trick Brad for a surprise birthday party by blindfolding him and telling him he’s doing a blind taste test 😂

[@aidenstark3823]

You need to test out the new Pitts and spitts smoke cage - see if it beats the woodwind pro!

[@eddieleyva916]

Personally offset has the best taste per type of wood you burn.

[@MikeSmith-yy1lv]

As a car guy, this is like the manual vs automatic transmission discussion. It's okay. I have a pellet. I've accepted it.

[@collinciepiela644]

What’s the time and temp for the camp chef brisket?

[@UnchartedFoodie]

It probably took about 12 hours until we rested it. 225º for the first 4 hours then we cranked it to 250º.

[@brandtheman92]

Nothing like asking someone to drop a cool 5k on a smoker BUUUUUUUTTTT…. With that said… the 94 gallon from Mill Scale 👀 any plans on getting one? They look so good, and I’m curious of your thoughts on performance. And of course a video is just a bonus. 😅

[@tonyshoe3131]

It's time to embrace the pellet smoker folks.

[@michaelstewart9366]

Love the channel. Why are you wearing a glove on 1 hand and touching the brisket with both hands ?

[@alwaystony1829]

What is Talo?

[@Sergio-yj6pc]

Why not wrapping works better on the pellet?

[@philip8102]

Having the same person trim and the other person season both would have made it more even. Then decide who gets which brisket with a coin flip

[@aaronpetrossian9673]

Jeremy, thanks for this post! I have been doing a ton of research lately on the pellet grills options on the market and I am currently leaning towards the Recteq RT-700. But this camp chef has me very intrigued. Any suggestions on which would be a better pellet smoker and why? Thanks!

[@ericwillard2364]

For what it’s worth, I’ve had a RT-700 for a few years and I love it. I started out on an offset about 13 years ago, then life got busy so I switched to a master built electric smokehouse. Then life got busier and I had no time to smoke so I stopped for years. When Covid quarantine happened, I was bored as hell so I picked up a RT700 and jumped back into it. I prefer the pellet grill. It’s 90% of the result with 10% of the effort. Plus I live in New England and not having to be outside tending a fire in 8 months of winter and 4 months of humidity soup is always a plus.

[@aaronpetrossian9673]

@@ericwillard2364 thanks for the info! The features I am really drawn to on this wood wind pro are the removable ash tray, the trapdoor on the bottom of the pellet hopper, and the additional side kit for a propane tank. But the thing I have a hard time with is that the woodwind only has a 22 lb hopper while the rt700 has a 40 lb hopper. Knowing what you know now, would you have stuck with the rt700 despite the slightly more difficult cleanup process and inability to easily remove pellets from hopper?

[@ericwillard2364]

@@aaronpetrossian9673 I love my 700, and the hopper has been a boon more than it has an inconvenience. I rarely need to empty the hopper, but I actually had occasion to last weekend. I hadn’t been able to cook in a couple months and I wanted fresh pellets in there, so it took about 10 minutes with a shop vac to empty it out and get fresh pellets in there. All that said, a 22lb hopper is a decent size and will probably be sufficient depending on what you’re cooking, how long, and what temp. I find that at 225, general rule of thumb is that I burn through roughly a pound of pellets per hour. A 22lb hopper should get you through most cooks. The other thing I wanted to chime in on, is that I have no problem with the level of smoke that the 700 puts out. I think it’s a matter of adjusting how you cook. I start my briskets at 180, which is the extra smoke setting on the 700. I let that roll overnight. So it might go 8 hours at that temp. Then when I wake up, I bump it to 250 or 275 to start rendering fat. On an offset, you might start out at 225. If you start a pellet smoker at 225, you’ll get less smoke. So you just need to make sure that you aren’t cooking on a pellet smoker like it’s an offset. I also find that the pellets you use make a difference. I really like the smoke that gets added by using Knottywood plum pellets, but you need to clean out the pot after every cook because clinkers are an issue when burning fruit woods. I’m happy to answer any questions you might have.

[@aaronpetrossian9673]

@@ericwillard2364 very helpful information, thanks Eric! You raise a good point though about the extra smoke feature on the rt700. I think the only way to get that extra smoke is to leave it on the low temp, right? Whereas the camp chef seems to give you the option to adjust the Smokey-ness on any temperature you set it to. Would you say that a 22lb hopper is sufficient for a low n slow brisket cook without having to refill the hopper through the cook? I’ve heard very good things about the knottywood pellets and have been told how much they are worth the purchase! Any reason you go with the plum pellets?

[@ericwillard2364]

@@aaronpetrossian9673 22lbs SHOULD be sufficient for any brisket cook, with the caveat that I only have the context of how fast recteq burns through pellets. I would imagine it’s the same as the camp chef, if not roughly so. Yes, the extra smoke setting is only at low temp. Depending on where you live and what the weather is like, build quality may also be something to take a look at. I don’t know what the camp chef is made of, but the 304 stainless of the RT-700 is a thicker gauge than my old offset and retains heat much more efficiently than my old offset did.

[@hugotendam5349]

Man I am a bit disappointed that you just threw out a chunk of meat without explanation lol

[@williemakeit7185]

Cmon!! BARK is NO where near as close, smoke flavor is not close. I'll believe you when you say you aren't getting paid, but don't break the trust of the people chasing the BBQ we have here in central Texas. Bark cannot be set on any pellet grill as it can on an offset. I owned a Timberline pellet and my Workhorse Pit sets bark on a whole other level.

[@bigboylife5463]

I have an offset and a woodwind 24 pro and I can tell you, it’s pretty damn close… if the offset gets a 10, the Woodwind pro gets a 9

[@joshsanseri1765]

Now do the Masterbuilt. Wayyyyy better.

[@stimpaxx]

yo jeremy, who won the drawing a couple weeks ago? probably not me since nobody told me lol but i'm wondering what happened.

[@freshlicks]

Campchef sales 📈

[@whosradl]

It would be great to see a video where 20+ participants with varying levels of BBQ knowledge and experience, who don’t know the variable ahead of time, do a blind triangle taste test to see if they can pick the odd one out and then, if they can, ask them which they preferred. This would still be a single data point, but I think would be more interesting than a side by side comparison because you’re already biased to “what’s the difference between these two,” and especially if you know the variable.

[@bigbfromaz]

I think that would be cool as well.

[@ProduceWithGibbs]

Jeremy looked so defeated haha. The way he just sat and stared at the briskets after the decision. 😂

[@JustinMock1]

Always enjoy these collab videos. Any chance the music volume could be matched with the vocals volume? I find myself having to constantly turn the volume up and down so I can hear words but not get blasted by the music.

[@Sheps246]

Such a great comparison, pretty amazing for camp chef to be able to stand up to an offset. I wish there was more detail in the video about the process on the camp chef, type of wood chunks, how often we're they out in, what kind of pellets, was there a water pan, ect. Would love to hear about those so we could try and replicate those results!

[@BigWood76]

I’d love to see how the gravity fed smoker holds up.

[@larrysioxson2567]

Good question. I’d like to know how well the Woodwind Pro does versus a gravity fed smoker like the Old Country Gravity Fed Smoker that Jeremy used to have.

[@CoolJay77]

There are those who ran just wood in gravity smokers. That would be great comparison to an offset.

[@thom1879]

@@larrysioxson2567 I have the Old country gravity fed. It is about 90% of the way flavorwise to an offset with the ease of a pellet smoker if you add a controller.

[@ericthibault8875]

There have been a few channels that did masterbuilt gravity vs woodwind pro. Every video I have seen masterbuilt wins out albeit by a very small margin. Results with old country would probably be similar

[@RYTF5]

@@thom1879 you need to add a controller? I thought they had one and that was the point of a gravity fed lol.

[@briannakash1875]

Hey Jeremy, love the videos. Have you ever checked out the Lone Star Grillz Pellet? It can take pellets In addition to wood chips. I own one and the flavor of it is unreal. It's a beast of a smoker. Closest to stick burner I've ever tasted.

[@shaneallee6168]

You beat me to it.

[@praetorxyn]

Came here to say this. I've never seen anyone put it up against the Camp Chef, but everything I've seen says it wrecks every other pellet smoker. I'd like to get one at some point, but I need to get my deck rebuilt first, alas.

[@melvingibson4525]

Man I looked that thing up and it's $3000. That's some serious dedication to barbecue lol. Seems like a very nice unit though

[@praetorxyn]

@@melvingibson4525 It’s custom fabricated as far as I know. I don’t think they just have a warehouse with a hundred of them sitting in it: I think when you order one, they spend weeks / months making it by hand. That’s what they do for most of their pits, but the Pellet Smokers might be more mass produce able since they’re less customizable, I’m not sure. Either way, it’s reputedly in a league of its own in terms of smoke flavor on a pellet grill (before the Camp Chef one that takes wood chunks came out, anyway, I haven’t seen the two compared), you can easily remove the ash without having to take all the grates and such out unlike all the other ones, you can cook with charcoal in it with an insert they sell, and the whole thing is 1/4” steel, so it’s just built like a tank compared to most on the market. It also uses FireBoard technology for monitoring and control. Which is the best their is IMO. It’s worth the price IMO, but I haven’t bought one as I don’t have a place to put one.

[@DblA760]

Came here to ask the same thing, please do a review or a side by side with the woodwind!

[@javierbaez2032]

Jeremy I don't know why you looked so surprised. I literally bought my Woodwind Pro because of YOUR reviews! The thing is pretty awesome, and I continue to learn watching your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@donlinsky7588]

So did I, although I bought it from Andersons smoke show link when him and Jeremy did that video on the Camp Chef together, I think on zoom. I guess that's what they used. I love my CC Woodwind Pro 24 so far. Love all your videos Jeremy!

[@roberthartwell7952]

I did too! Jeremy's video's helped me really nail smoking meats. My CC Woodwind Pro 36 is definitely a step up from my Pit Boss Pro. The food and grill have been phenomenal. Thanks so much Jeremy!

[@brewster84067]

Great video guys. I've come to realize that if you're really in the game, having both (offset and quality pellet grill, I have the Yoder) is the conundrum we love to have, because it's the game of figuring out which one is the 'right' one for the situation that keeps us watching these vids and running our pits. Our loved ones doing the sampling get the benefits while we ponder the results. These are the kind of sleepless nights that I enjoy :).

[@All2Skitzd]

For long cooks I start on my offset then move to my Weber Smokey Mountain with temp controller, for lazy cooks I used Weber Smokey Mountain and my pellet grill is like my outside oven.

[@dallhoc2895]

I have a pellet and off set cooker. I've used both for the same cook. Off set for few hrs for smoke the wrap and finish in the pellet grill for temp. I didn't want to heat the kitchen or spend all day in 107-degree heat. It came out great.

[@Cylvester7]

I do the same. I have a cheap offset I use for the first 3-4 hours, then I do the rest of the cook on the pellet smoker. 99% as good as a full offset cook.

[@CoolJay77]

I've been meaning to acquire a pellet cooker just to do that. I am glad to hear the strategy has produced a great result.

[@bencarpenter5275]

I have an offset and a traeger. This past weekend I smoked in the offset for about the first 4 1/2 hours and then put it on the traeger to get some sleep. I really think that’s the best of both worlds when it comes to flavor and it’s still somewhat convenient because I’m not tending a fire at 3am. Love the video as always!

[@jerryjensen5052]

I do that with my weber and pit boss best of two worlds

[@chasdro]

This is a great idea.

[@All2Skitzd]

I do the same thing with Brazos offset then my Weber Smokey Mountain with temp controller. I told my boss about it and now he does the same thing with Lonestar offset and BGE with temp controller.

[@bravomusicman21]

That’s my go to as well. Brisket and ribs. Get the offset smoke on it, finish in the pellet. Wrapped or un wrapped. It’s a great method

[@Matt-1926]

Just started the video can't wait to see the results, but wanted to chime in and say I think for future comparisons Jeremy should have trimmed and seasoned both briskets. You are trying to compare the quality of the smokers so the meat that went on should have been as close to identical as possible.

[@TheCannaBBQ]

Those were both very delicious briskets. 🤤

[@MadScientistBBQ]

Thanks man

[@UnchartedFoodie]

You're a delicious brisket...

[@SJ-zb4vv]

Woodwind pro with a rotisserie setup could possibly be tops for easy mode.

[@UnchartedFoodie]

Love that idea!

[@Atekcs]

Wait! What!? An easy bake oven that tied with an offset! Mind blown. This is gonna crush so many offset purest! I would like to see a comparison between the Masterbuilt Gravity Series and an offset. All in all an excellent video!

[@darrenc3895]

Click bait. This were the case Franklin would have four pellet smokers.

[@bravomusicman21]

Well, they would need about 400 pellet grills. No substitution for that.

[@robertscheidemann5745]

Drop the mike! Great video that clearly allows your viewers to decide for themselves what approach will best fit their needs (especially the time/hassel demand) to make great Texas Style Brisket! My only question is (in case I missed it in the video) is what type of wood pellets and chunks were used in the Woodwind Pro? Thanks to all y'all!

[@cablebfg]

Hey Jeremy and crew! You're the reason I own the Woodwind Pro. I have followed you for nearly a year now and very much enjoyed the content. I think having the Woodwind Pro on the market is amazing because my weekends are packed and I don't have time to watch over a grill right now. I love running the pellet at night and trusting it will keep things incredibly consistent. Just know that I still think and practice a lot of your preferred methods of smoking that you use on the big offsets. I started with a little PK Grill and made great stuff there as well. Thanks for the comparison and the videos over the last few years.

[@tbunreall]

There really isnt a point to an offset smoker at home unless smoking meats is your absolute passion and it's all you want to do. Pellet grills are 99% of the way there and the convenience just cant be beat

[@bobwilson2860]

Had to stop the video. Differing volumes between speech and music was too much for me.

[@bobroberts3628]

Nothing aggravates me more than seeing a guy in his yard wearing a "Pit Master" shirt standing next to a pellet grill. You're not a "Pit Master" . There is nothing to master and that is not a pit. Its a glorified oven that takes zero skill or effort to control.

[@kxrsuperstar]

Did I see drippings from the Goldie’s one being poured onto the other? How is this accurate?

[@tlwayman]

14:22 LOL you can see he is actually disappointed

[@rybodelerium]

Jeremy + Bradley videos are the best. More!

[@Jonbob836]

yes

[@cody_the_bum8946]

Gravity fed is the closest to a stick burner. I have actually had people ask what offset i have. Put the masterbuilt up to compete

[@CoolJay77]

Have you tried running the MB on just wood? Some people have gotten great results that way, but it might mess up the chute area.

[@cody_the_bum8946]

@@CoolJay77 I haven't tried just wood. I run 50/50 in the hopper with chunks in the ash box

[@deanweiss7913]

Question - was the brisket on the WW Pro cooked fat side up or down? I've read that briskets should be fat side down on cookers where the heat comes from underneath.

[@UnchartedFoodie]

Fat side up, and then cooked on the very top grate! :)

[@deanweiss7913]

@@UnchartedFoodie Thanks for the reply. I'll have to give that a try next time I do a brisket on my mb560.

[@jeryd5542]

Wood love to see Lone Star Grillz pellet grill with there wood chips blended into the pellets vs theWoodwind Pro.

[@JamieStuff]

This shows that there is no One True Way when it comes to BBQ. Were there differences? Yes. Were they both good? Yes. I've had great brisket done on a Pit Barrel Cooker, and some done on a Weber Kettle. Learn to run what you have, and you will make some great food.

[@BarryMunkasy]

So, going back a couple of years which is closer OC Gravity fed or this one???

[@TheCannaBBQ]

Omg you know Smokey and Vine?!?! 😮😮😮😮

[@MadScientistBBQ]

He is almost as bad as wood fire and whiskey

[@UnchartedFoodie]

@@MadScientistBBQ he's way worse..

[@shortythefrenchie]

Jeremy cmon man how much did Camp Chef pay You!!!!😢

[@ggruber66]

I'm considering a new smoker. My old Camp Chef ZG (from Dick's) is kinda dead. So was looking at the Woodwind Pro and saw this video. 2 questions: 1) I've heard some people say that the WWPro is really a different class of pellet smoker. Did you find that the extra smoke you get using firebox makes is worth the $300 difference versus just a pellet grill? 2) I'm also intrigued by the gravity fed charcoal smokers. Though the video you did with BBQHQ, and talking to their sales people, makes me concerned about the quality of the MB. Would you go WWPro or the Char-Griller Gravity 980, which seems to have better construction than the MB? Economically, it seems that the CG is a better value than say a WWPro or even just a WW or Traeger 780. Thoughts?

[@mattymattffs]

The charcoal units eat through charcoal. You'll spend a fortune

[@richhansen8617]

Get your hands on a Lone Star Grillz Pellet Smoker and try this.

[@darylfortney8081]

same person should have trimmed and seasoned both briskets. also should have wrapped them both the same otherwise you are changing multiple variables at once instead of the original goal to only change the cooker.

[@DreadKyller]

Critique I have for video, needs better audio balancing. I have to turn the volume up to hear your voice, but then when the music starts up it's extremely loud and I have to turn the volume back down about 25%-50% of what I had it at when you're speaking.

[@jchambo86]

I second this. Constructive criticism of course.

[@DreadKyller]

@@jchambo86 indeed, otherwise the video is great.

[@chairreader]

Fully agree

[@martinflores7354]

Really I thought it was legit. U on a android? Lol. But then yet u could be very picky

[@IcyBrook]

Yeah i had to skip past all the music parts. super annoying

[@rattlesnakebbq]

Jason...FYI, Lone Star Grillz is now selling hickory wood chips (sized to go through their auger) along with hickory pellets at a 50/50 mix ratio to produce a much more smoke flavor in their pellet smoker...better than Camp Chef

[@kprowler]

Don't try that in a Yoder. I have 3 Yoders, and sent some 50/50 mix with LSG wood chips. Needless to say, I was up at 1AM tearing the auger apart, lol.

[@rattlesnakebbq]

@@kprowler Exactly...the wood chips are for the LSG which has a different auger than others...LSG made a disclaimer saying the wood chips may not work in other smokers...in other words...do it at your own risk...am sorry that it caused you problems on your Yoder...hope it didn't damage it... The owner of LSG (Chris) has verified that a 50/50 wood pellets and wood chips works on theirs... I should be getting my new LSG pellet smoker any day now...and have already got everything ready to try the 50/50 method... Take Care...happy smoking!

[@lasercd7851]

Wouldn’t it have made more sense to take one heavier brisket, cut it down the center length-wise and each half cooked on the offset and Camp Chef respectively? This way you eliminate one variable - the potential quality difference in the meat. Everyone is using the same brisket flat/point.

[@CoolJay77]

The most important point is that they seemed to approve of the smoke quality. Though Brad could recognize the smoke flavor from the offset smoker, he seemed to approve of the smoke flavor from the Woodwind Pro.

[@JesseCracksMTG]

I need a sober Brad, not this tired Brad to judge…

[@BehindTheFoodTV]

Hey Jeremy - looked like a fun cook. How much of a role do you think the difference in wrapping method made in the end result? Amy chance Goldees is on to something here?

[@bigun89]

I have found that care and attention to detail makes more difference than what type/how expensive your smoker is. I can make knockout pork butt on a $129 smoker.

[@jefffinney6806]

I don’t know why it’s so hard to come over to the pellet side. It’s so easy and the results are consistently awesome!

[@samagee2211]

You have to love playing with fire to understand why

[@jefffinney6806]

@@samagee2211 I hear ya. Maybe that’s why I won’t buy an offset. Last thing I need is another hobby. I’ll just keep rocking with my pellet.

[@UnchartedFoodie]

Come..... Come to the dark side..... :)

[@sybrwookie]

Because for some, being a gatekeepy douche is like 3/4 of smoking.

[@jmacallan448]

@@UnchartedFoodie it's actually the brighter side! considering the bark

[@blipblopride9024]

Wait - did you compare ONLY using burnt ends?

[@MadScientistBBQ]

For the blind taste only

[@j5687]

Guess the next question is, would the smaller cook chamber of the 24” create a smokier product than the 36” version of the Woodwind Pro? I assume the smokebox is the same capacity on both. Looking to pull the trigger on one soon! Keep up the awesome content!

[@jaybo3915]

I have the 24 and find it to be plenty big for a typical backyard BBQ with friends

[@cablebfg]

I have the 24" as well and find it to be plenty in terms of size. I've cooked two pork butts at the same time and even two briskets. I find your hypothesis to be interesting because I do believe the wood chambers are the same size.

[@copper4eva]

I plan on buying a kamado grill soon, and this motivates me to figure how best to smoke briskets on it. Because it’s clear you can still get really good smoke with a little wood. Although the bark on the pellet wasn’t as strong in this video. Brad even stated the offset was barkier in the blind test.

[@Christgoldberg]

I love the fact that Brad left the blind fold on as long as he did. That was hilarious. I'd be curious to see a comparison between a gravity fed with wood chunks in the ash bin and an offset.

[@jenniferturner23]

I wish the briskets would have been wrapped in the same wrap so it would have been an apples to apples test.

[@matthasaname]

They wanted each of the cooking methods to put their best foot forward, though. I understand the wisdom of both approaches, but the pellet vs. stick burner taste test has been done 10000 times. This method, where each pitmaster does their best with their tools, is rare. Everyone already knows stick burners get more smoke on the meat, and pellet grills have a reputation for struggling in this area. Myself, I've mastered my own approach, and if I were competing with someone, I'd be sure not to change a thing.

[@Bigkuntry5911]

A good pitmaster can make it happen. I love my stick burner and my camp chef.

[@RedHeadEd615]

I don’t have a woodwind pro (yet) I currently have a recteq 1250 and it’s awesome. I don’t have anywhere near enough time for a stick burner so I can cook all day from work. I’ve really been looking to have mine modified with a smoke box or buy a woodwind pro because video after video shows that smoke box 100% makes a difference over a normal pellet grill.

[@Christobevii3]

I wonder if a smokeAI using wood chips would work well for a retrofit?

[@RedHeadEd615]

@@Christobevii3 from what I’ve read the smoke generators don’t work for good smoke taste because the wood isn’t burning hot enough to hit some chemical reaction that I can’t remember the name of. That’s why this has been such a big thing with the woodwind pro.

[@aaronmanning2290]

I'm a Weber Smokey Mountain guy myself. Would love to see a collab with someone like Harry Soo and put a stick burner up against the WSM.

[@k9m42]

And a WSM wins in competitions against offsets too.

[@2005Pilot]

Exactly- as Harry Soo says- it’s not the pit, it’s The Pitmaster! Yes I own both-a WSM & Offset. My WSM hasn’t seen a spark in 3-yrs that I got the offset 😢. Just too much fun Stick Burning and so easy to get Beautiful Tasty BBQ

[@briand7984]

Dude. Maybe you need something to clear the pallet in between nibbles.

[@bigcowboyfan113]

I know it's hard because you don't want to hurt friends' feelings or leave people out. But would love a video where you talk about the Superlatives of BBQ: Best BBQ restaurant you've tried Best Brisket Best Individual BBQer Best RIbs Best Rubs Best Smoker Etc. I think that'd be awesome. Could even make it an annual BBQ awards when you only talk about what you've had/tried in last 365 days

[@AmirhoseinHerandy]

Can you please also check the heavy d, which is basically the same thing retrofit for other pellet grills?

[@carlmyrick6866]

What's your thoughts vs a gravity smoker?

[@kris2fur64]

Awesome vid. I picked up a woodwind pro 6 months ago because of your other vid and it was an awesome decision. Keep up the good work with the vids.

[@meshfreak]

I also picked one up because of his video on it. No regrets. It cooks amazing bbq. :)

[@UnchartedFoodie]

Heck yes!

[@danieljurado7461]

Best KZbin channel ever

[@b.mccarthy1105]

Lmao! Yoder is pissed!❤️❤️❤️. Sorry brother. 🙏🏻

[@MadScientistBBQ]

Just disappointed

[@b.mccarthy1105]

@@MadScientistBBQ all in fun. But if you watch the video, I felt bad for ya then laughed and said damn he’s pissed. But I understand. Your videos are top shelf. Keep it up. Love ya🙏🏻❤️. God bless to you and yours.