Mae West, was SHE actually a HE? This one is wild..

[@KarineAlourde]

“It is better to be looked over than overlooked.” -Mae West … watch “Raquel Welch will SHOCK you! She's nothing like she seems..” NEXT kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHu5eqSLbsuFZrM

[@cliftonbowers6376]

I refurbished the Myra Breckenridge film it was burn in a fire ..I had a video of the movie that was made to film..also knew Rachel Welch up to when she past away...knew both.😊

[@cliftonbowers6376]

She meant that children need not be in homosexual acts...unfortunately the conservatives don't necessarily do...😮 my great aunt Bell Davis was friends with her mother..😊

[@lightningbug276]

Loved her Witty lines!

[@sandrakenney567]

​@@lightningbug276me to .its not the men in my life its the life of my men.😂💃🌟🙏🕊🦋R.I .P. MAY AMEN. ❤

[@flexibledreamer7846]

A simple search of John Edwin West II , you can clearly see her brother. His nose and face structure is completely different. Whomever started this rumor was a crazy conspiracy theorist. If she did have a beard shadow, maybe she had PCOS?

[@lorrainelamour7224]

She also stood up for black performers Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington when Hollywood producers balked at having them in her movie. New York was more integrated than Los Angeles so at first she didn't understand why the producers didn't want to cast them. She vouched for them and their appearance in the film boosted their careers. Similar to how Marilyn Monroe supported Ella Fitzgerald being hired to appear at the Macambo (I think) nightclub. She told the owner if he booked Ella, she'd be at every show and he could advertise that. He did, Marilyn was at a front table for every performance, people came to see Marilyn, heard Ella sing, and Ella's career took off! I'm proud that both of these women, looked to as the epitome of white blonde female beauty, each stood up for black performers they admired and helped chip away at racism. When Clark Gable started filming Gone With the Wind in 1939, there were separate restrooms at the soundstages labeled "White" and "Colored." He went to the producer and said, "You take those signs down or you've lost your Rhett Butler!" They took them down. Hattie McDaniel was the first black actress to win an Oscar for her role in that movie. She received the Best Supporting Actress award.

[@spinrash6000]

Thanks for sharing This type of history should be used as a teaching Tool bunny ranch guy did the same for natking cole

[@julietgreenidge3914]

Apparently when Hattie Mcdaniels had her parties, she always invited Clark Gable who would attend. They were very good friends

[@chocolatcats]

Her ex-boyfriend, African American William Jones was barred from her apt. I think they were prejudice....

[@nenala7684]

Wow

[@adrianadealmeida1472]

What a character! Hard to separate facts from fiction. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@jonathanpatterson4558]

it was also claimed that she bought her apartment building when the management banned her black boyfriend from the property.

[@KarineAlourde]

Yes she did. 😍

[@jonathanpatterson4558]

@@KarineAlourde can you do a story on nancy wilson please.

[@KarineAlourde]

@@jonathanpatterson4558yes she’s on my list for this year ❤️

[@jonathanpatterson4558]

@@KarineAlourde that's great my beautiful friend. no I'm talking about the black jazz singer. not the rock n roll star.

[@roundtwo3321]

@@jonathanpatterson4558 Guess who I saw today.

[@pinkchampagnepurplerain7059]

She’s definitely a woman (having watched her in films before). I think denying womanhood to women due to hormonal issues/differences and having stereotypically masculine features is why society is where it is today. Looks don’t make you less of a woman and she was post menopause by then so…

[@teijaflink2226]

Really disgusting and distrespectful honestly.

[@ifyouknowyouknow6964]

So do women with pcos have adams apples ?-_- Structure determines function. Yeah some women might not have the hour glass due to hormonal issues but the structure is still dramatically different from a man

[@diopfifi4937]

​@@teijaflink2226extremely disrespectful. Is not stop to be taken lightly

[@speedtopia2013]

... needless to say but I will, menopause and/or the lack of creating as much estrogen as one did previously does not cause a women to start looking like a man.

[@PrecociousFriand]

@@ifyouknowyouknow6964 I have known quite a few women that have laryngeal prominence (adam's apple) especially if they are very thin naturally. As said above we need to get over this idea of hyperfemininity it is a ridiculous beauty standard and creates a completely false narrative. Honestly I think it's getting worse. Women are tall, big, hairy, deep voiced, flat chested, etc. You know some, I know some, we all know some. Hyperfemininity is rare that is why it is coveted. Time for everyone to grow up a bit. Ironic your handle is IYKYK when you don't seem to know very much of what's going around you all the time. You're either stupid or a troll.

[@shawnjackson6242]

Mae stood up for black folks in Hollywood when others wouldn’t

[@barneyporter6138]

That's right she sure did stand up for black people That's soul sister needs to shut up

[@orange222...]

I even wonder if she had so much to do with the book that was quoted. Seems so different from what she was saying on the reals.

[@unglueme]

@@orange222... I think she thought if it was THAT out in the open, as it started to be in the early 1970s with gay liberation, that it was like promoting it in society and would have an undue influence that could in our society hurt children and the family... Because i think even though she accepted gay people, there was still the idea that it wasn't a GREAT thing and that there shouldnt' be an actual shift in society... I can see why someone of her era (I mean, the woman came of age in the 10's!) could believe that, while at the same time saying gays and lesbians should not be censured and should be appreciated for themselves, their talents and contributions, but that those who happened to be gay or lesbian should keep their sex lives more on the private side... It is kinda hypocritical, as there were also people of her age who DID believe in total "gay lib" though not a lot. wish i could explain it better, why i think she said that....

[@orange222...]

@@unglueme possible. It's so hard to talk about what happened in the past people look at it with today's eyes. If you weren't there it's hard to really know.

[@racheldoesacrylic4089]

i know holly wood sacred wood in witchcraft glamourised smoking i know holly wood glamourised being abusive to parents ie swearing and going up against them. i know the STARS another name for fallen angels sign a pact to get where thy are in being famous and great wealth etc more to all this if you do research ,the transgender movement is all about confusion for young children , think less than 15 yrs ago this would never of happened ,look into who and what is ruling this earth , when the elites say GOD they dont mean the god you think off x

[@paulstuart551]

Mae West was born female in Brooklyn 1893, the eldest daughter of a model & prize boxer who became a policeman. She initially worked in Vaudeville under the name Baby Mae. In her first Broadway production she used the name Jane Mast she was noticed by a reviewer who called her Mae West which she kept as her screen name. Apart from the influence of Vaudeville she was influenced by "The Pansy Craze" of drag acts popular from the 1930s -40s. She developed the persona of a parody of a woman. She exaggerated her swinging hips etc, acting like a brazen hooker. She was once jailed for obscenity & later said "I love censorship, it has made me rich". As her films were heavily censored she added more risque material so less of the original was removed. Her last film bombed, it was a dreadful adaptation of Gore Vidal's bizarre novel Myra Breckinridge & despite the star studded cast bombed; Raquel Welsh played the ambitious transgender actress & West her ruthless agent. Mae was old & was put on a trolley to move, she couldn't remember her lines so was fed them through a radio ear piece. The trouble was that it was on the same frequency as a cab company & she would often repeat their directions. I like this absurdity to the end of her film career, it is more interesting than Dietrich's dull finale a few years later with Bowie in Just A Gigolo which was received badly by critics & audience. West was not a man, she copied drag queens.

[@PrecociousFriand]

She was in another ridiculous movie after that one where they also wheeled her around on a trolley I believe. I've seen it and it was really bad. It was called Sextette and in 1978 was her last film.

[@BlackberryTitties]

Where there’s smoke there’s fire! You didn’t live in that Era. I would rather trust the people who lived back in that era and actually worked with Mae. Maybe it was her brother.

[@Sandi-ke9mi]

⁠@@PrecociousFriand I saw both and both were awful. But Mae was still a legend.

[@gabriellekoukis9460]

Thanks Paul you write well

[@vangu2918]

Mae West did exactly what she wanted when very few male or female could or would, and that's the source of enmity towards her.

[@Gemini053]

I don’t really care about Mae West suddenly “becoming” a man after the 50s. I’m more interested in the fact that Mae had a “twin” brother.

[@yourloveriswild7533]

@@21stcenturyshowgirllmfaooo fr

[@Gemini053]

@@21stcenturyshowgirlAt this point I don’t care, I’ll still give Mae her flowers. The minorities (both in gender and in race) made Hollywood not the other way around. EDIT - And you’d be surprised how many big move producers (at the time in silver and golden age Hollywood) were either predators or closeted.

[@devdiya9615]

Ohh omg hmm

[@Yenchantress1isaStarr]

@@21stcenturyshowgirlSome of your most beautiful current idols are not what they seem, or their "Female" children.💁🏾‍♀️

[@savanataylor6052]

@@Yenchantress1isaStarryeah that’s why the beauty standard is chiseled cheekbones for women now, because men are our models

[@charenzo95]

She could have had a thyroid problem which can give the appearance of an Adam's apple in females. I believe that the more traditional women started these rumors about her because she looked different from them but could still pull all their men and that had them pissed. I've seen it before. Some women who other women don't consider attractive have that thing that men like, whatever that is, and guys are just drawn to them.

[@danavixen6274]

I believe a lot of them were jealous of a buxom phenom like Mae West. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@PrecociousFriand]

My grandmother was like that. She always had a man trailing around after her even though she really wasn't that attractive. She had a thing for married men and could get them. Go figure. None of us understand what it was about to this day, but there was something about her that men found irresistible.

[@soxpeewee]

Lolz she actually looked pretty typical for the time period

[@audreyf9092]

@@soxpeeweeright because you would know that lol

[@mellh6102]

I also agree with you on that other women probably couldn't understand why men were attracted to her. Even myself just looking at her she was so different but tbh I don't see a man just... it seems refreshing to not see the one body type and a different kind of beauty they should've tried to put more of a difference I hope the comments didn't get to her too much

[@davedee4382]

That was a rumor. She was a woman. She was also only 5’1”!

[@grlnexdoorable]

Part of the reason for her iconic walk was corsets and 8 inch platforms!

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

There are women that suffer from hormonal issues where they grow facial hair, and a list of other issues. The world has changed since then, but it doesn't matter whether she were a man or woman. Such a legend she will remain ❤❤❤ Love the video 😍

[@apriljohnson7447]

Still matters

[@diopfifi4937]

It does matter because is extremely hurtful 💔

[@skylarsartnphotography3450]

​@@diopfifi4937idk about harmful, but I would call it dishonesty

[@foxericka]

It kinda matters because deception is wrong!

[@annayosie]

It matters

[@robinmcmillon4233]

Has anyone looked at her brother?! He was significantly taller, and his features were EXTREMELY different from Mae West! Even with all the best special effects of the time, there is absolutely no way he could've pretended to be the illustrious Mae West! It's sad that this amazing woman who was an outspoken voice for women's rights, racial equality, and the LGBTQ+ community is being reduced to such mean and terrible rumors!

[@PrettyP.69]

I totally agree

[@KayDejaVu]

LOL. I like stories that show the different side of a celeb. It is said here that her pictures looked different.

[@learhaynes1002]

Facts

[@serene5345]

The new MW definitely looks different than the old one. I'm seeing two different people, brother or not.

[@Bean.toppless]

Probably age

[@Toxic_Femininity]

The ‘Mae West was a “man” rumor’ was a clear example of ageism… people came up with this in reaction to her natural aging, hands looked larger from arthritis 😢 her “Adam’s apple” was her crepey neck skin etc. Leave that lady alone 😣

[@Toxic_Femininity]

She also supported the gays, so yeah…

[@katriana_young]

It wasn’t just ageism. They were jealous and threatened by her. What other way to diminish and discredit someone than to create malice rumors in hopes to cause them to lose their appeal and influence?! She could not be controlled, so they attempted to control those who supported her by discouraging them from accepting her!!

[@allesandradrago7111]

She also supposedly supported black people does that make her black?

[@SagittariusQueen1980]

Whether if she was a man or not, she's still an icon and her movies are classics. She was that bad B until the end.

[@Zimaala]

Yes she was..... and the whole controversy about her was the fact she was thick and proud of her beauty. When the standard look in Hollywood was slim

[@julijakeit]

A man? Please! Haters will always go after slightest 'weakness', Mae's being she's a mature, plump and yet seductive woman.

[@Yenchantress1isaStarr]

🤣😂

[@stacyflood4319]

Mae was a dude....period.

[@Zimaala]

I loved me some Mae West and a fan of her moviea

[@serene5345]

Yes, even today is Hollyweird there are many women that are actually men. It's a trick they love to play on us.

[@anthonymcken6050]

Exactly.

[@veteranbroad8802]

I really liked Mae West. No one could strut like her.

[@Tash-001]

it is horrible for a woman to be questioned as a man

[@multifandomtv7000]

Yes it is

[@TurquoiseInk]

Absolutely. It's one of the ways we get attacked and dismissed.

[@Rue100]

FACTSSSSSSS...THATS STILL HAPPENING IN 2024

[@JaquelineGoodspeed]

It's rumored many are men and then visa versa. What kind of world have we lived in?

[@Dovelunalove]

@@Rue100exactly just look at what happened to Imane Khelif during this years Olympics 💔

[@dwight2375]

By the time Raquel Welch met her, Mae was old enough she had probably already gone through menopause. Alot of women increased facial hair after menopause. But regardless of gender, Mae West was Mae West.

[@thaliahall4599]

Yes, due to increases in androgynous hormones, many women develop facial hair and some start having hair loss. Nowadays, women can have waxing, electrolysis besides shaving.

[@artemisolympius2708]

I wonder if her “masculine hands” were just her hands swelling from a condition? Do women’s hands swell from menopause, also?

[@300books]

@@artemisolympius2708 : Of course! Some menopausal women have swollen faces, hands, and legs. This doesn't make them men. It's insulting to insinuate she was a man. Raquel Welch was being petty when she stated Mae West was a man, since they didn't get along in the movie they made together. Two divas competing in the same movie is not a good thing.

[@abetteryounow6484]

Raquel Welch would have known a man from a woman! She was not the only actor who thought Mae was Mike!

[@Switzer1234]

Just fyi: 'A lot' is 2 words.😊

[@shushuwu]

A woman cannot grow old without being accused of being a man. As you get older, your nose grows your ears, grow your hands grow, and your feet grow. Your skin sags it wrinkles & a woman’s voice can tend to get deeper! I wish all you haters 10 times the hideous aging that we women deal with and I hope you look in the mirror one day and say, eehh, I kind of look and sound kinda manly!🤦🏽‍♀️

[@roundtwo3321]

Exactly, we all get old. She was worth $50 million according to Wikipedia. I'm more interested in how she accrued that wealth; that didn't come from just making a few movies decades ago. She probably was a shrewd business person.

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

And sometimes women Juss have strong features. And or are more muscular than a lot of ppl expect/idealize.

[@dorindawaldrop5521]

No No!!!! Don’t wish bad things on anyone please.That is not right for anyone to do that. You know when you hope for bad things to happen to people,it simply will come back to that person who wished it. Just love for you Sis.❤I love all even those that hate me although it is hard sometimes.

[@shushuwu]

@@dorindawaldrop5521 that’s not true, and I am living , flourishing, proof!

[@shushuwu]

@@roundtwo3321 Real estate and she was a very shrewd business woman💫

[@kyrunya]

Contrary to popular belief, a woman can have an Adam’s apple. One of my friend’s have one. She was my roommate in college. She’s married now with two children. I was there when she was pregnant both times before anyone says anything stupid. I never questioned her gender.

[@9roselove9]

It’s very very rare. That’s not normal. And babes “she” was probably a man growing up. She is most likely intersex and has multiple sexual organs

[@devdiya9615]

I guess u haven’t heard of adoption

[@kyrunya]

@@devdiya9615 I guess you can’t read.

[@frstnmlstnm8484]

@@devdiya9615 Apparently everyone has an adams apple but biological women tend to have them smaller but some women exposed to more testosterone in the womb tend to have bigger ones.

[@devdiya9615]

@@frstnmlstnm8484 yeah fr I dated a guy with boobs once

[@nancyedwards1920]

For years folk said Donna Sommers was trans . She gave birth to children, so much for being trans . No I don't believe the tales..

[@danavixen6274]

The disrespect towards Donna Summer. Hope she's at peace now. 😔❤️

[@rjrobinsonblackherstorybook]

I agree 💯. All BS

[@diopfifi4937]

This. The rumour only stopped after she gave birth to her first daughter

[@diopfifi4937]

​@@crabbylion7971well every few years a famous female is called a man. It was ciara then Iggy Azelia now Meg. Both Ciara and Iggy had babies.

[@josephosullivan9506]

If you didn't actually witness the birth, then you don't really know. We don't really know anything about these "stars", except the created backstories and narratives we are fed by media machines. They are all owned, controlled, and part of the agendas. No one reaches high-level fame unless they are owned by the entertainment industry, and none of their lives are what they portray or what we are told. They are all fictional characters playing roles, on stage and off stage. You may not want to believe the tales, but don't believe any of the mainstream narratives either.

[@vincenall4797]

Mae West was my grandmother's cousin and she was definitely female

[@AJFaulkner-s1g]

Is your your grandma related to a woman whose name is Rose Kay West yes or no please let me know if you don't mind that cause I am related to Rose Kay West in the Belcher family line and Rose Kay West had 2 daughters and their names were Ariana Renee West, and Danielle Nicole West was Rose Kay West's 2 daughters that I am related to from the Belcher family tree so please respond back to me as soon as you can please if you don't mind that please thank you very much and May God Bless You and be with you and your family members.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Mae West is an icon. I will leave it at that 🔥

[@Iflie]

Actually if she had an ectopic pregnancy and lost one ovary or more she may have had a lack of female hormones and perhaps started masculinising in time. Though simply age could have caused the bodyhair too, I do not think she looks masculine, just an older heavier woman. I doubt her brother would sound and look like her LOL

[@KarineAlourde]

That makes sense too. Good point.

[@Iflie]

@@Notupforit Ì think you need to check your biology, I've had a hysterectomy and I haven't gone through menopause because I've kept my ovaries. When you have a "complete hysterectomy they take the uterus and ovaries and you go through menopause which leaves you without the main producers of your female hormones. Your fat still makes some though.

[@Iflie]

@@Notupforit A normal functioning uterus does not produce estrogen unless you are pregnant and having just one ovary can make you go through menopause younger. You said "womb" not ovaries.

[@christineml1476]

Love Mae West, she was one of a kind. I've heard something similar about Carmen Miranda, that she was actually a man in drag. Also she didn't die when reported, just stopped performing as a woman. Don't know if it's true, interesting tale though.

[@KarineAlourde]

I haven’t heard that about Carmen, but she is on my list so I’ll be investigating when her video is up 🕵🏽‍♀️🕵🏽‍♀️

[@christineml1476]

​@@KarineAlourdeCan't wait for the video! ❤

[@ticoangelo]

She did die. Her funeral here in Brazil was with open casket. She was dead. And she was a woman. When she was really young, she and her sister sang in theaters and radios here in Brazil as well. Two cute girls dancing and singing. All documented.

[@brigittebeltran6701]

​@@ticoangeloYes...and she had a baby too.

[@alamc200]

Oh please! Carmen Miranda was very petite, slim but shapely and wore big platform shoes just like Mae West did to appear taller. From what I've read she was actually of Portuguese descent but her family migrated from Portugal to Brazil when she was a baby.

[@heidibee501]

I think it is important to note that she started, and lived, much of her life in very different times. In some ways she belonged more to our contemporary world than she did in her earlier life. She was clearly ahead of her time. She was gorgeous and talented and very mindful of the expectations of her fans. Back in the day, many of us would not leave the house without makeup, coifed hair, or a nice outfit. I still do.

[@starrlara2599]

Me too

[@mishaa7263]

she is fascinating, and obviously not a man lol... some German women tend to be strong faced and broad esp when they age

[@LoveToHearUSing]

LOL

[@allesandradrago7111]

Same thing I just told my mother when she sent me this video and sent other women with a strong face

[@optitom9033]

I worked for Santa Monica Bank in the late 60s and had the pleasure of meeting Miss Mae West when her chauffeur would pull up out front and park in the red zone and make deposits for her and one day we needed her signature and I was taken to the car and told to climb in and get her signature, trust me she was not a man and was one of the sweetest ladies I've ever had the pleasure of meeting and from that day on she called and told me to come to the car and personally retrieve the deposit and appreciated the personal service. I was only 24 and a recent corporate officer at this bank and every other officer in the bank was jealous as hell.

[@Claire-mi3uo]

love this story!!

[@optitom9033]

@@Claire-mi3uo thanks it was a time I'll never forget other than being at Henry Fonda's house the day he died

[@yokotoatto4426]

Yeah I'm confused because in some of the photos she looks like a woman with full breasts, like in the video clips. Then in others, she barely has breasts and looks like a drag queen. I think those were two different people.

[@tonjastandley375]

Same here

[@diopfifi4937]

Maybe she had a push up bra

[@chocolatediamonds5760]

💯💯

[@blackbarbie401]

America is so OBSESSED with gender identity, like its giving obsession for real smh...

[@daisy4750]

The American government right now is obsessed with it , not the people.

[@adushack1982]

As an American I would say American Assholes are obsessed, most of don't give a damn, we are a country of 330 million-not just conservative assholes on TV

[@VixxKong2]

True, it's kinda annoying how there's an obsession with people's sex and where they put it

[@chergoodvibes]

no american is obsessed with not changing children's gender till they are adults and csn make their own decisions

[@spinrash6000]

@@VixxKong2😂😂😂who’s putting what where lol 😅😅😅

[@1wyco]

Reading the title, I assumed she had a Taurus Ascendant due to her distinct voice. And it turns out, she is! People were obviously petty and jealous of her.

[@lorrainesaltmarsh2836]

Some women do have signs of hair growth on the face. My friend did which she got from her mother and auntie who seemed to have a little more male hormones. I myself have been growing a few chin hair but in my case I think its just because I am in the early stages of menopause. Does it really matter what we all look like. Mae west was iconic and gorgeous no matter what.

[@adamvargas1793]

She could’ve been intersex. We don’t know and probably never will, regardless, she’s iconic af! Great video!

[@mirabellaolson6410]

Do you mean a hermaphrodite? What is intersex?

[@AM-ed1cg]

I'm realizing Raquel Welch took a lot of her style from Mae west. And Raquel Welch has also been accused of being a man

[@traceygilbert8225]

The movie ,music industry and politics is full of this goes way back 🤯

[@chickenscursandacabin]

Yup!!

[@handsomeX]

💯

[@Uncleed251]

One of the few actresses of the Golden age who didn't care or play by Hollywood standards . Her Black lover lived more like a House Husband than just another lover

[@annabelleleigh-]

I had a friend who was very masculine looking. Very tall large hands feet broad shoulders. She was often mistaken as a man dressing as a woman. She had a condition called acromeglia

[@RudeJudy]

Acromegaly. It's an endocrine issue. This person does not have acromegoly. It has very distinct, striking physical features including a very large jaw. If you've ever watched the old show The Jeffersons, actor Paul Benedict had it.

[@Glad2BGolden]

Just stop 😂

[@philstrachan]

Mae was not tall! She was 4ft something and wore such high soled shoes which is what gave her the stylised walk

[@TurquoiseInk]

She could have had PCOS or another hormone disorder that could have given her facial hair, infertility issues and heart problems.

[@Starshadow]

She was a fascinating woman ( and I don’t believe for a second she was anything bu). Mae was a character she put on for the public and likely eventually believed herself to be. One friend a long time ago who was very gay said that about ten years before her death he stopped to see if a limousine parked on the side of the road needed assistance and was met by Mae West, and while her driver had already called for help. But Mae kissed him on the forehead for being gentleman enough to stop. He told me while women never interested him, he got an erection from her sheer sex appeal nonetheless, even as an old woman. She could do that to men.

[@megb9700]

I love this story! It sounds like it was shared at a party, party on!

[@PngPg]

Reminds me of the transphobic, misogynistic manipulation of media Lady Gaga and other strong go through. 1) so what, and 2) loving the celebration of mae west's individuality and determination ❤

[@LDSW]

Yes...I definitely remembered Mae West shashaying on TV years ago. She definitely uttered one liners that were memorable.

[@anthonyriche552]

I was just literally talking about Mae West the other day. She was a real trailblazer and pioneer. I'm not sure either but with Hollywood anything is possible.

[@AussieAngel826]

Yes anything is possible in that town

[@3rrlia661]

In my perception she İmpersonated a hypersexual woman ,something outrageous at the time, whom instead of being shy and apologetic she acted like a gangster .

[@NicoleSlays]

Hey sis! ❤ I'm happy I got here early. ☺ missed you! This story sounds crazy & intriguing.. anything can happen in Hollywerid.. Love you Karine. Hope all is well with you and yours 💕

[@KarineAlourde]

Hey Nicole! Thank you is! I missed your comments for a few days! Hope you have a wonderful week! Love you 🫶🏾♥️

[@susanross1651]

I really would be surprised if Mae West was a man. I remember her movies, I’ve also critically looked at every photo you showed & saw no sign of an Adam’s apple. I do think she was a free spirit & seemed to do whatever she liked, be it good or bad. That was her prerogative, I hope she was happy. As long as I live I will remember her line “is that a gun in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me”. She was great!

[@rreennaad]

She looks like a woman to me , her voice even her body she just doesn’t have the typical feminine features there’s many women that have masculine facial features or bodies and some women struggle with hormonal imbalance my aunt has hormonal imbalance issues and she used to have a hair under her chin!!

[@bobpierce115]

At 17:19-20, she looks A LOT like Jayne Mansfield who was a successor of sorts to West. I believe Mae was all woman, I heard this rumor years ago and it never went anywhere. In 2023, everyone is suspecting everyone of being the opposite gender to the point of being completely insane, making the allegations meaningless now in most cases.

[@Honey26carat]

What a lady she was. A legend, an icon.

[@philstrachan]

Mae was an amazing woman who wrote, performed her songs as well as her scripts. She was a true pioneer in Hollywood for women. She was a strong woman - celebrate that - so why do people have to say she's a male?

[@frstnmlstnm8484]

Despite not being a conventional beauty Mae doesn't look typically male. I wonder if the rumors were fueled because she was a starlet that wasn't conventionally feminine in both looks and personality and this seems very sexist to me. This reminds me how all the transphobia that's happening right now has actually caused a lot of cis women who aren't conventionally feminine (like athletic women and butch lesbians) to be harassed in women's bathrooms. Also, some famous women or socialites didn't like to be seen without makeup like one of Capote's swans who's name I don't recall and of course Dolly Parton.

[@abelzelaya7209]

Mother fucker don't you know that the LGBT have an agenda made by the government and dark elite.

[@detroitdyme]

'cis women'??? 🤦🏽‍♀️.....Um NO, the correct term is WOMEN .... Stop with this 'cis' bullshit....

[@Jamestown-y9j]

Mae West was nearly if not already 40 years old, she was not starlet when she arrived in Hollywood , she was already established on Broadway.

[@grlnexdoorable]

Jealous starlets put forward those rumors because Mae kept her clothes on!

[@JJW77]

Karine another informative video!

[@KarineAlourde]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching love 🙏🏼

[@moxyoonyx2713]

It sounds like she had PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) characterized by high testosterone likemen including facial hair. Trust me, these beautiful women never get tired of being accused of being a man. *sarcasm* I even had an adams apple... turns out it was thyroid cancer pushing on my throat. Some women have illnesses that are born to them. Everyone deserves love. Best wishes

[@NewOrleansGirl]

I don’t believe Mae was male. And in 2:13 she reminds me of Tina Knowles!

[@danavixen6274]

Exactly 💯

[@danavixen6274]

"Come up and see me sometime." Mae West was bawdy. No apologies given. 😂

[@Chutney1luv]

It's impossible for Mae to have been a man! Her love of men was amazingly incredible. As a woman ages, she will take on male characteristics! Her hormones are diminished! Today, we eat healthy and exercise with the right vitamins to ward off deep voices, losing hair, no sex drive, and beards growing! She was actually a lot older than people thought! She purchased her beautiful apartment building when they did not accept the black boxer that she was dating! They dated for years. Loved her! She also got her swag from black jazz artist of that time! I loved her one-liners! It's not the men in my life. It's the life in my men! 😅 Good review, though! Life is full of surprises!.🎬⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@HighFrequencyGuru]

I noticed she had black women swag

[@violetcarson5532]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 i remember that. Then Janet Jackson did the one liner on Good Times I fell out laughing 🤣😂🤣. I always love me some Mae West.

[@goodgirl170]

So black people like when WP jack your image.

[@deborahmccoy3837]

Thanks!

[@Ava-oc1dg]

I’ve always loved May West and her maid shadow. Not to mention Her with Cary Grant, and we fields. We’re they ideal stars for a black child as good as we got. She was empowering,witty,and unapologetic. Not bad role model for independent women.

[@veronicascott8012]

I think they made up stories like that about women who were strong, enjoyed their sexuality and didnt care what people thought about it. 🤔

[@thegirlwiththecurlyhair]

I am so glad I found your channel yesterday. It’s fucking gold man. This is the exact type of thing I’ve been wanting to listen to after months of feeling so bored and tired of everything else I listened to.

[@eva1780]

I wonder if Mae had so many lovers they would surely notice if she was a man...

[@OlymPigs2010]

...unless they were all.....Gay !

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

You could just claim you had been with 50 men and had 45 abortions and no one on earth would think to consider you're just lying and are a man.

[@Weeeewriter]

You always have such great videos. Thank you for making them xox

[@studiosandi]

There are lots of men who are very good at looking like a woman.❤

[@leta8878]

Plot twist she may have had one or a mixture of these identities all along: 1. PCOS 2. Intersex 3. Trans person. Hence she may have had hypothyroidism and suffered hormonal imbalance which is often associated with infertility.

[@kymmieg6110]

It’s just rumors y’all! No need to try and get deep with it. Tabloids were crazy back then too. True or not she is just talking about what was said about Mae! Anywho, she was very interesting and fabulous.

[@moonstonevibes9207]

Yes exactly! I agree!

[@kymmieg6110]

@@moonstonevibes9207 they are wrecking their brains in the comments.

[@moonstonevibes9207]

@@kymmieg6110 lol fr😂😂😂

[@VixxKong2]

This rumor is like "Paul is dead"

[@studiosandi]

If a child decides to sleep with somebody and they Proclaim themselves a liberated young woman that's one thing but the men men who sleep with her should know better.

[@bobbyantonelli7978]

Mae West was all woman. When she was arrested and was sentenced to ten days in jail, don’t you think they “ checked her out” and would notice that she was a man , anatomically? And, she could’ve just paid the the fine. Okay, let’s see who can argue my point! Love you Mae!

[@abetteryounow6484]

The studio had great clot! They would have paid to shut down those rumors! Look how they fooled everyone with Rock Hudson, Tab Hunter, Raymond Burr, Barbra Stanwyck, etc!

[@grlnexdoorable]

Good point!

[@sanriocondom]

and the surgery didnt evem exist in her time. it didnt start having successful results until the 50s

[@abetteryounow6484]

@@sanriocondom cross dressing! That's what Raquel Welch had stated: He looked like a man because aging revealed his mask!

[@نجمة-ت8د]

@@sanriocondomactually it did it was just very experimental. There was a trans man who got it in the early 1900s. The surgeon who did it was an amazing person and has a really cool story

[@resilientgal872]

Just because she wasn’t a conventional beauty or a conventional bomb shell she had to be a man? People thought Queen Elizabeth 1 2as a man because she wouldn’t marry. Some things never change.

[@cathypatman1224]

Mae West was Classy, Bawdy, pretty much did what she wanted. Loved acting different and she Loved Men. Both Hollywood Producers and alot of Hollywood Actresses were jealous of her because she refused to be intimidated by them. She was Awesome! Love her movies and have read several bio's about her. She was a Classy Dame! 💜💜🎬🎬🎬💜💜

[@turquesa_8056]

Lots of women back then wouldn't be caught without being made up or looking their absolute best. That was just the way things were in those days.

[@jessicashanel7577]

If she was replaced by one of her siblings, it seems like her mom would’ve suggested her sister Beverly before her brother

[@basilmanolakos4926]

Mae did not expect audiences to take her seriously. Her Femme-Fatal persona with her bumps and grinds and sexy deliberate stroll made all of us as Mae knew that her screen character was a parody of those that strut their stuff.

[@telikaandfam]

THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY SUGGESTION!! and you found more info then I knew! I love lil Janet Jacksons imitations of her

[@mandatory1561]

“When I’m good I’m very good. When I’m bad I’m even better.”

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

Oh wow…the tea!😬 She definitely leans masculine…especially her voice.🧐🥴🫶🏻

[@KarineAlourde]

I never noticed the voice until these rumors

[@arielslack7015]

But there are women with deep voices I have a deeper voice, that coud be mistaken for a man, but I’m actually a woman

[@cindigoodridge6847]

I'm on the side where i don't think she was a man. But i say that with a cup of salt and not a pinch. As you said, its alot of smoke and mirrors. Good work on your part though😊.

[@KarineAlourde]

Not a cup of salt 😂😂 I’m going to start using that. Thank you ♥️

[@arielslack7015]

She may have had an extra chromosome did anybody think about that?

[@cindigoodridge6847]

@@KarineAlourde sure . That would be my pleasure. Just give me a shout out when you do thanks. I'll be representing my island Barbados. ❤️🇧🇧

[@ConstantCompanion]

Actually, not so wild. It's not that uncommon. In the beginnings of theater, men were the actors. Women's voices wouldn't carry so the men played the female parts. It's in the blood of the industry. A number of them to this very day that would probably surprise you a great deal, we're actually men.

[@kangel20]

Yup!

[@kathyminassian1375]

Mae West (born August 17, 1893, Brooklyn, New York, U.S.-died November 22, 1980, Los Angeles, California) American stage and film actress, a sex symbol whose frank sensuality, languid postures, and blasé wisecracking became her trademarks. In August 1980, West tripped while getting out of bed. After the fall, she was unable to speak and was taken to Good Samaritan Hospital in Los Angeles, where tests revealed that she had suffered a stroke. She died three months later on November 22, at the age of 87.

[@oaktreeman4369]

I always got the impression of Mae West that she pretended to be a man pretending to be a woman. That was the role she played.

[@LyicsChannel]

I don't understand why you would not mention Welch was super upset with West on set and that she had a reason to be vindictive.

[@raysand2557]

There's no way that Mae was a man. She was too voluptuous. She has a pinched waist, broad hips and plenty of bossom. Now, you might say that those were falsies, but if they were, they're the most realistic falsies ever. I think that the rumor she was a man comes from the fact that Mae was way-ahead-of-her-time: she used to love gay people and hand around drag queens. By the way, she, also, had a black boyfriend. People don't talk about that much, but its true. Now that's really being super liberated considering that back in the day, a black man couldn't even whistle at a white woman.

[@Maybelater444]

She’s definitely a woman.. I can’t find not one photo that may suggest otherwise. 😂

[@honeybear-mw5rt]

omg this seems so interesting

[@honeybear-mw5rt]

cant wait to watch this 😆😆😆😆😆

[@p.weezkelzy4719]

She was very much a Woman.

[@rebecksterss4621]

I find it so disrespectful to Mae West that people have said or implied that she was a man. I can't imagine how that must have made her feel. She looks like the same person to me in photos and videos, she just aged. I personally never leave the house without makeup and I most definitely am not a man. Also, looking at a couple of my female German relatives from the 1920's they were very masculine looking, they actually remind me of Some Like it Hot. Thankfully I didn't get those genes. 😆

[@nay4peace280]

Her pictures were very different- sometimes she looks very pretty and feminine and other times she looks odd and masculine - I have always thought this was weird

[@chocolatediamonds5760]

💯💯

[@shylanngunn7544]

Finally!!! 😍😍😍😍😍AHHHH SO EXCITED

[@MsKitka11]

Wow! She was definitely a type of free spirit. I think there are people who have different appetites and predispositions that not everyone will understand. I know some may say she was "fast" or just way too young to think the way she did, and some may wonder why she was that way or did something happen to her to make her that way. Sometimes, it's hard for people to just accept that not everyone is built the same and Mae West knew who she was at a very young age, accepted it, and lived her life accordingly. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with that.

[@ehanneken]

Her brother replaced her but none of her friends, business associates, boyfriends, exes, etc. noticed? Or they all knew but no one ever talked? None of the doctors or nurses who treated her talked? More likely, West’s appearance was affected by aging, or Raquel Welch was being mean.

[@ModrnDayMonk]

I was watching Mae West's interview with Dick Cavett, and afterwards saw you'd done a video on her, and decided to watch it, because I love your thoroughness, and balanced reporting style ❤.

[@ruthpeddinghaus6660]

Thank you for covering this one. You keep bringing me back. I like your vibe.

[@victorgilles3598]

She dated and lived with a Black Man. She was before her time

[@cathrinewhite7629]

6:25 Her nipples showed through her dress! I thought that was verboten back in the '30's and 40's- especially in the family theaters of the time. My mom & aunts were sent to the movies all day when my grandma was busy. I guess they got exposed to the human form early on!😮

[@KarineAlourde]

I know right, our grandparents used to live ❤❤

[@cathrinewhite7629]

​@@KarineAlourde 😅 Karine, your closing comment at the end of this video? A very astute observation indeed!🙏🏼💜

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

Idkkkkkk. Its crazy. It makes me think about Angel storyline in 'Pose'.. and the research i did after watching that show.. and i believe its possible that some of our beloved Bombshells are/were indeed TransWoman or DragQueens Passing for Bio/CisWomen.. similar to w.o.c who would pass for white. . While. It also makes me think of how the standard of beauty & misogyny impacts women(woc specifically).. And How when women have strong features like full lips, strong/high/definitive cheekbones, wide nose, prominent chin.. heavy set.. thick set.. broad shoulders (esp if tall.. in gen.. cuz ik Mae is listed 5'0).. ppl will question their sex & gender.. Like Joseline Hernandez, Ciara, Wendy Williams, Teyana. Juss for some current examples.. So it's interesting. But i think allat together says .. It doesnt matter.. ppl are ppl and all look/are different & the same in many ways.. Its her/their character, words & all else that they left behind that stood the test of time & really mattered/(s) Take the meat. Spit out the bone..

[@hannacarter1352]

Please kids wait until marriage. Better connection between the male and female, a bond. And God doesn't want us being sinful. Beside all the diseases out there.

[@lcbflorida]

I don't believe that her brother ever played her. People have tried to say the same about Martha Jane Canary (aka Calamity Jane) and it wasn't true (males do not give birth and Martha had a daughter and she was madly in love with Wild Bill Hickcock). It was wondered over because Calamity wore dresses but she also would wear men's garb as well). Mae walked the way she did because she was very short - 5' or under I believe and she wore very high platform shoes but was afraid of falling off them so she trod carefully which gave her that "rolling hips" walk. She despised W.C. Fields and made comments about him being nothing but a drunkard. He was so bad with his drinking that when the studio tried to get him to stop drinking on set, he would inject his oranges with liquor -- and he got away with it for a while. She gave Cary Grant his start (Why don't you come up sometime and see me?) She did her last film at the age of 86 or 87 (I forget which) and the film was one of hers - Sextette. The U.S. Navy referred to the life jackets that were worn at sea as "Mae Wests" for obvious reasons. Mae was very smart and business savvy (as was Marilyn Monroe) who some people still believe was just a "dumb blonde". That was just a character that she played because people expected it - both were believed to be "all beauty and no brains" - except by the people who really knew them.

[@BlackBettyRama]

I always learn something new and WILD wherever I watch your videos, lol! Another great bio 👏👏👏. BTW, I was so excited to hear Lovely Ti shout you out on live last week!! 💜

[@WillNeNe]

A lot of men played as women back then, I’m just now learning.

[@rickyparrilla2426]

This is a horrible rumor and Raquel Welch was very disrespectful for even saying such a horrible thing. Raquel wished she could have had have of Miss West talent and wit. Miss Mae West is literally a Hollywood icon who did so much more than act. This rumor should be put to rest already. Its a horrible untrue rumor.

[@rickypilcher3618]

No, SHE was a real woman!

[@giacya1]

I believe she was born a woman if you think about the time period She lived in plastic surgery was not in the advanced stages It is now. She did not have an Adam’s apple in any of her movies or interviews also, she seemingly always had boobs. I’m doubting she had surgery to remove an Adam’s apple and got breast implants. On a sidenote, if I’ve always thought that Roseanne Barr could have been related to her. Not Roseanne Barr’s body shape but all in the face, the eyes, the smile, the teeth.