Mafia Boss & London Gangster Reveal Their Most Violent Crimes | Crime Stories

[@ladbiblestories]

Thank you to Bobby and Michael for taking part in this episode.

[@TJ-vt6rt]

Both 72. I would not have thought that.

[@siy8230]

​@@TJ-vt6rt Michael definitely doesn't look that old eh

[@f32440i]

Michael was never a boss

[@Itsmy2cent]

Great dialogue BUT Bobby and his “mmm” and “hmmm”, is insufferable. Like nails on a chalkboard sheesh.

[@Itsmy2cent]

@@f32440iBruh you do know he was a street boss right. That’s literally what he was. Caporegime basically signifies head of the family at least in Sicily. Caporegime (street boss) is the head of an organized crime syndicate who commands a crew of soldiers. So a captain or caporegime as well as an under boss which actually in Michael’s time was Sammy, were street bosses. Different titles but literally street boss. So yea Michael was indeed boss, a street boss.

[@Isiah-yr1eu]

Michael: *breathes* Bobby: MMM MMM MMM MMM

[@KingDeeba]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@backstreetfangirlforlife9401]

Kinda Annoying🤣

[@SilentHotdog28]

I found it soothing to be honest, Bobby has a calming voice.

[@Isiah-yr1eu]

@@SilentHotdog28 when he's speaking I agree but not when he's making caveman noises during someone else's turn to speak

[@philly442]

@@Isiah-yr1eu lots of boomer Anglos do this

[@muzifele6902]

There’s just something about hearing two gangsters say “I’ve heard so many great things about you” that’s wild.

[@theterpenater6414]

Lmao yeah i was like wtf

[@lilbertsmom3561]

Their definition of great is a lot different than mine...

[@mrbeest13]

Maybe it's a polite way to say "I would never mess with a man like you"

[@Simp4Ahsoka.]

You do realize gangsters are honestly really harmless unless you fuck with them. Their way of business is humane most of the time. They aight tbh. Just don't fuck em

[@pandadoublexl]

@@Simp4Ahsoka. you've never interacted with anyone in this world in your life, they're all scumbags.

[@JumpingTuna]

Michael being the older man of the two was the most surprising revelation of the whole video. He looks like he's in his 50s.

[@CR-be3un]

Same!

[@Jack_Krauzers]

How old is he actually? he looks very healthy and fit actually

[@abdullahjawed3838]

​@@Jack_Krauzers it's mentioned in the video. Both are 72. Michael is 6 months older than bobby

[@danielgreen6302]

Exactly, i was thinking early mid 50s, He is in extraordinary shape,looks, strong gene pool.🦏

[@MarcIverson]

A lot of people with money look that way, or once they get money, look that way.

[@nickm2890]

Mike: "Yeah, I'm 71" Holy crap, Mike. Keep it up, man.

[@davecrupel2817]

This man's gonna live to be 100. Only then might all his hair finally turn grey. 😂

[@lewiskr7066]

His dad lived to 103

[@aa_prospect]

Seeing this on November 23😂

[@hdmicord8200]

It has to be the Italian blood

[@Bexar2204]

I really like how extremely respectful they are to eachother

[@TheAlmightyClipse]

Real recognize real.

[@Estalarki]

"Mmh"

[@Foefii]

they saw what happens if they’re not

[@FinbarGallagher]

​@@EstalarkiObviously not English or from the Commonwealth, here in Australia and in the UK that's not a sign of "Hurry the fuck up I'm not interested in what you're saying" - it's a way of acknowledging genuine interest in what another person is saying.

[@Estalarki]

@@FinbarGallagher I know. I saw another comment on this video saying what it meant

[@1231crazykiller]

The fact that Mike is older than Bobby is mindblowing

[@Alexander-vl1lg]

Mike's father died just a couple of years ago at the age of 103. He's got some really good genes in him.

[@paulwilliams2663]

Try a lot longer in jug. Franzese was only in for a shit n a shave, Bobby done full 18yrs.

[@dannomack6783]

Yeah it’s two decades in prison vs somehow avoiding long prison sentences

[@ORACOLOGNE]

13 years@@paulwilliams2663

[@GrabbaBeer]

@@paulwilliams2663no, he did 13 years

[@danniellasian30]

As a Brit I didn’t even notice his “mmm, yeah yeah yeah” until I read the comments, that’s what it’s like talking to older generation English people😂😂

[@thecursed01]

german here. didn't notice it much either. kinda just means: "yes i am listening to what you are saying" i assume

[@magosofmars8410]

All the older blokes i know do it just lets you know there still paying attention

[@LeroxYT]

@@thecursed01 same

[@Zoxxtheking]

@@magosofmars8410I assumed so because over her in America, our old heads just say “right, right, mm hmm, right” to show they’re listening. Kinda interesting how different cultures have different ways of showing interest lol

[@danniellasian30]

@@ZoxxthekingWell that’s pretty much what Bobby is doing here, it’s just a reassuring gesture to let the other person know they’re agreeing and engaging. I do it to some extent with facial expressions or nods though👍🏼

[@harutogames9204]

the interaction between these two was awesome, no gloating, no arguing, none of it. two men (though criminals) showing respect and being decent human beings. yet i sit here and wonder why people outside that life cant do the same.

[@slumped9677]

It’s swings and roundabouts as much as that life encourages violence and nasty behaviours it also permits respect and brotherhood.

[@Bagofnowt]

People don't learn discipline, I think. If you live in a life where one false move gets you in a box, you'll be disciplined no problem, youll be respectful of others. When the biggest consequence you'll face is a funny look, you're going to be less respectful.

[@DaekoTan]

@@Bagofnowt It's sort of why places with strict laws sometimes get the most well-behaved and disciplined citizens. For example Singapore's got pretty strict but reasonable laws, and they have some of the best education in the world.

[@Vario69]

The reason these high level mafiosos conduct themselves so well is because they were working around very dangerous people, and upsetting the wrong one would get you killed. Just my opinion

[@Meldrick-jv7sy]

Y'all really need to stop regurgitating that nonsense.

[@reecewatson8991]

14:16 "no no we don't go down that route." was so funny bruh like the fact that the reporter actually thought

[@2Face21]

For me it was like Bobby tries to stop that questioning for both of them right there. He was not thinking only for himself, but also for Michael. That is shown of respect he has for Michael.

[@theasiangod5860]

@@2Face21 Most of it is so that they can't get into more trouble or make problems for themselves with politicians they worked with. As they said, they have peace now.

[@foggy227]

​@@theasiangod5860I don't really think they deserve it though

[@DefaultName-du3kr]

Michael has never spoken about anyone involved that is still alive, so chances are those politicians are still alive and in office.

[@tentaplayz3691]

I see

[@amartyaroy3754]

"I'm not a gangster, I have never been a gangster. I'm a businessman whose business was crime." - Bobby Cummines

[@cloneboy28]

"Hmm, hmmm" -Bobby Cummines

[@DjStinger]

​@@cloneboy28Hmmm hmmm

[@Balloonbot]

​@@cloneboy28 Im getting a tattoo of this very quote

[@mrgainz7252]

​@@Balloonbotwannabe!

[@PhantomTr00p3r]

@@mrgainz7252 he's joking, he's talking about the 'hmm' Bobby can't stop doing for whatever reason

[@MarkSmith-ct4hl]

If anyone is wondering, bobby said 'mmmmmm' 168 times and 'hmmmmm' 95 times. Edit: Thanks for all the likes. Alot of you are asking how many times he said yeh? Its 38 times

[@12000gp]

😂😂

[@rappingcommuter3148]

I wish I hadn't read this before watching. Can't be unheard 😂

[@12000gp]

@@rappingcommuter3148 mmhmmm

[@killer11805]

Dude that was fucking killing me, I dont know how Michael didn’t say anything half way through the video

[@nbsnick3234]

Imagine if without this count someone tried a drinking game on it🤣🤣

[@elduardo2496]

"I've heard so many great things about you, Bobby" "That goes two ways, don't it?" Dang, first thing they say to each other is "I know the dirt on you" lmao

[@coreywallis4626]

btw people, the hmm bobby does, in the uk its a sign of listening and understanding in some counties respect

[@Calle2433]

What🤣 we don’t hum every 2 seconds

[@jaykawasaki-x5y]

Its legit the dude trying to keep pace with the conversation and being self conscious

[@brownjatt21]

​@@Calle2433 more something you'd see in the past generations.

[@RiBA__]

I do this shit and it means i’m pretending to listen but everything coming out from your mouth is going over my head

[@thesmellybaby]

Understanding the 'hmm' and 'mm's is a part of social understanding. The behavior is termed nonverbal acknowledgment. People can search this up if they want. In addition to the UK people around the world do this too. It's similar to nodding or blinking intentionally when something is being said. It's a subtle way of communicating 'im still present in this conversation' and I'm not going to interject with my own thoughts and opinions. Hope this helps!

[@alexandredeplaix5701]

Men like this always makes me think about the saying " beware of an old men in a business where men die young"

[@THEJAM-EATERS]

Like asbestos removal?

[@healthiswealth6831]

@@THEJAM-EATERS😂😂😂😂

[@sophiesworld4240]

Can’t say I’ve heard of that saying

[@melker617]

I haven't heard that saying before and it also doesn't work here because they retired way before they became old men

[@alexandredeplaix5701]

@@melker617 they are still Alive

[@lanathackery8556]

As a Brit. The ‘mmm’ ‘yeah’ and ‘hmm’ are just are way of acknowledging and just saying ‘I hear you and I understand’ 😂😂

[@bch5513]

I can't unhear it now

[@d-rockanomaly9243]

Yeah people do that in most places I think, maybe not as much as the Brits do or whatever, I think the thing is just the amount of mmm this guy is putting out. Like totally overboard. Anyway.. Thackery that's such a British sounding name haha. You're pretty cute Lana, I'd like to hear you go mmm yeah

[@Lol_Pig]

Doesn't mean it's not distracting and annoying. We don't do that here in the States.

[@joboilibres9593]

​@@Lol_Pig okay american

[@tha_real_king]

@@Lol_Pig HOLY SHIT!!! PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AREN'T EXACTLY LIKE THE PEOPLE IN UNITED STATES!!! THAT MEANS WE'RE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE!!!

[@Drking-mz5yp]

"real gangster arent loud, disrespectful, show offs, those are thugs im a businessman" realest Statement I've ever Heard.

[@pikpik42]

24:00 that part about the kids hit me the hardest. grown older men with a lived life admit that this is the most important thing for them. eating ice cream, seeing them running around. it's a treasure.

[@donkashh6025]

Bobby whenever Michael is talking 'mmmmmm' 'hmmmmm' shit was jarring me 😂

[@marcorios6806]

Yes he did it or said it about 1,000 times during the interview

[@xShankz96x]

I’m trying to ignore it but god damnit Bobby shut up n let him talk 😂😂

[@paddymcginty1264]

Don't tell him unless your a mile away in a thick fog with a megaphone 😮

[@cdelane3335]

I guess it's habit.

[@salvatorejack6894]

These guys ain’t supposed to ever feel ‘out of their depth’ 😅😂

[@mrbong123]

I like how Michael invited himself to the guys wedding at the end. What an absolute boss 😂

[@Achilli3sonamission]

😂

[@Thomas-ib8fe]

He's having a cut of that cake. [Pun intended]

[@justintemp]

Made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

[@zoidmo3388]

@@Thomas-ib8fe 😂 I have to wonder if taking a piece of that cake might be needed. How Patriotic is that cake? lol . I'm quite done with being swindled by the biggest organized criminals>our Govt>making our countries 3rdworld shitholes. Invaded by heathens.

[@legendgamer676]

They had a good rapport, I’m sure Bobby would have liked to have him there regardless

[@RyDaMoOnline]

No shouting over each other. No trying to grab the limelight. Total respect for each other. Actually speaking articulately. What great human beings.

[@Meldrick-jv7sy]

Why do people keep making comments like this? As if other shit down discussions are like that.

[@RyDaMoOnline]

@@Meldrick-jv7sy Good point. I do see a lot of 'interviews' where the guest is interrupted and talked over. Just remarking on how polite they are.

[@clockworkpotato9892]

They grew up with lives where if you did that, the ambulance would be what you hoped you exit in

[@darren6202]

@@Meldrick-jv7sy ???

[@buffcommie942]

you have a really low bar for what makes someone great

[@ShareenHo]

Loved it. Now put the Yakuza and Triad bosses in a room. I also want to see the Italian Mafia and London Underworld in a room too.

[@fivedaysinjune]

Then add the Russian and Irish gangs to that mix.

[@FrostyGerardo-kr7xs]

Imagine a Cartel boss. Just thinking the other are juniors.

[@mikaelerosecrans2093]

Bruh what about just the leaders no guards or fighters

[@mse7215]

Just add the "Elites" of the world if you want to see the real deal.😂

[@theblackrosedaughter]

Man....I'd pay to be in a room listening to these men chat it up. This was so fascinating!

[@hao9508]

Same yhey should had Michael blanco with them

[@BruceFolger]

Truly truly appreciate your kind words you seem to be an intelligent person

[@organicleaf]

@@Onyx363 yt und being there in person is a different thing

[@Briselance]

Well, when possible, go and attend a conference by any of these two men.🙂

[@KytoNagasaki]

When Michael found out he was a couple months older than Bobby and playfully said respect your elders now that must've made Bobby feel young again

[@johnnyboysteele599]

Bobby: "there's my heart- here's my hand". Beautiful.

[@MakerSpaceDK]

the amount of respect in this meeting is mind blowing ! i do not in any way say that the crime is okay but some things that the "underworld" teaches you is pure gold.

[@Grevan09]

There is a reaccuring phrase about Hitler. "Not everything he did was bad." Same logic here.

[@brandonjackson9047]

Because the cost of disrespect in the criminal underworld is severe. So they were brought up to watch themselves and hold themselves to accountable in a way we normies take for granted.

[@shehanigans]

Can you not learn respect elsewhere without the underworld? From your parents, grandparents, military etc.?

[@squishy2677]

@@shehanigans you can, but you rarely ever get to learn that from strangers, so when we see two strangers showing immense respect to each other especially people from a crude hellhole of a place, its refreshing, fascinating and surprising.

[@normad88]

@@shehanigans Parents and grandparents teach you respect out of pure vicariousness and selfishness, the whole "Do as I say, not as I do" and "Don't do this, because it is bad" or "Do this, because I say so, I'm your parent". Military teaches you respect at the cost of your constitutional rights and personal freedom to "protect others' freedom and rights". In the underworld, you are taught all the respect in a whole different light.

[@ismaelrivera9179]

It’s so funny hearing them back track and be like “WAIT! ALLEGEDLY!” Like maaaaan we all know you did it 😂

[@ChaoticNarrative]

Yes but the way things work in the Criminal Justice system in the UK is, if you commited a crime 50 years ago, you could still get nicked for it years later. So he's careful about details.

[@ismaelrivera9179]

@@ChaoticNarrative yeah ik that lol I’m pretty sure it’s the same way here in the US too

[@megm9383]

@@ismaelrivera9179 Yes and no. It does depend on what crime specifically, but look up Statute of Limitations if you would like to learn more.

[@ChaoticNarrative]

@@ismaelrivera9179 More than likely. I'd say so, yes.

[@micg7282]

@@ismaelrivera9179it depends on the crime. In the US we have a statute of limitations (meaning a amount of time before you are no longer able to be charged for a crime) on most crimes except for murder.

[@keyciannouncer8743]

When Michael talked about his friend having an affair with his sister: "you don't survive that", that's the first time he ever have details about himself being involved in a killing. This was a fantastic video all in all, so my thanks to whomever it was that thought to put these two in a room together.

[@Mr1gladiatore]

He never really said he was involved but clearly alluded to what happened to the guy having the affair. We don't know the full extent of Michael's involvement.

[@GFBSTPPI]

he also basically admitted it on the pierce morgan interview

[@richardbranton7396]

Franzese has nothing new to say ,he's full of it still a con man still making money off it .evil life not evil guys oh please

[@inFAMous1013fm]

@@GFBSTPPI what did he say on piers morgan's show in regards to this topic? Its an hour long so i didnt get a chance to watch it yet

[@SMOOVKILL1]

​@GFBSTPPI Basically admitting it and actually admitting it are two different things. He knows how to talk.

[@mohammedarshad3863]

I love the respectful attitude between them both. That life is to hard to manage. But you can genuinely see the difference in them. The peace of mind it gives you. It’s not a good life , because you are always watching your back. Fair play to them for walking away.

[@кяуртіс]

The mad respect between these two is amazing.

[@Puia_Lusei]

That's kind of part of the business. You treat everyone with respect unless you have a good reason not to. Besides, you can't go against another made man without permission. These people are nurtured with great discipline and respect and understand it above all else.

[@kirtil5177]

When they kill over disrespect it makes sense the ones alive are respectful

[@uncle5960]

Real recognises real

[@AllOneMove-gk3wr]

THUGS (not your usual saggy big pants kinda guy across the street) have a code of honor.

[@MrNostalgi89]

Mmm…

[@declanhawken5367]

Well, everybody that turned it off because of Bobby's "mmm" habit seriously missed out on a fantastic talk. I could listen to these gentlemen converse for hours!

[@fargrond9937]

Agreed

[@anderssandstrom545]

Agree!

[@moonhaewon6689]

I tried man, I really did and got half way through it but couldnt take it anymore haha

[@antifugazi]

It's ridiculous people are even talking about it

[@Hex...]

Very much so

[@kranialpinball6778]

Bobby hmming is making my brain hurt 😂

[@michaelharrison3602]

Bobby Cummings is totally respected by every true villain he's the real thing whether he looks it or not

[@michaelharrison3602]

The Krays never ran London they were nowhere near that level

[@michaelharrison3602]

If you'd told him that back in the day it would have been more than your brain that hurt

[@pumpkinface8151]

I felt he was a little nervous or intimidated by Michael considering just how big Michael and La Cosa Nostra as a whole was. Michael: "You ran your neighborhood? That's nice. We ran the country"

[@mistabam8279]

@@pumpkinface8151 I’ve watched other interviews with him and he does it in them, it’s just the way he is I guess I think it’s just maybe being on camera that makes him a bit nervous

[@jodyswallow1008]

One of my very best mates used to say ‘here’s my hand, here’s my heart’. A sign of honesty and respect. Sadly he past, but I will never forget him or the phrase.

[@Stygianduck]

There is a tremendous amout of respect and presence with these two gentlemen looking in each others eyes.

[@paulcole]

I suggest you look up the meaning of “gentlemen” 😂

[@theterpenater6414]

​@@paulcolethey are

[@aidanation562]

@@paulcole The "Chivalrous, Courteous, honorable man" definition, or the "polite or formal way of referring to a man" definition? They both seem like gentlemen to me, maybe not in the past, but things change, if you didn't know.

[@ItsFL1CKZz-onTikTok]

@@paulcoleyou can be a gentleman and still live a life of crime the life you life doesn’t always define the person you are

[@iammadeoutofstarstuff957]

​@@ItsFL1CKZz-onTikTokit sorta does putting bodies in hydrophobic acid to get away from the police doesnt make you look very good

[@cck5707]

Actually one of the most interesting videos I’ve seen on this app

[@Joshwaheazo]

I feel like Michael is full of shit to a degree. Look how terrified he is listening to a real thug speak 🤭. He wasn't a heavy hitter just in for fraud.

[@McClane105]

Man… this is oddly one of the most wholesome discussions I think I’ve ever heard.

[@RoyLevan]

I’ve wanted these two to have a sit-down for quite a while now. It did not disappoint!

[@mistrkill]

Call it a meeting of minds

[@DuhBla]

I grew up having a family of British folks living with me. They lived with us for 12 years so I've known them my whole life, and unknowingly I picked up the gent's habit of "silently affirmation" as a listener to the speaker, the small mmhmms, and hmms. Bobby doing that in the video brought back so much nostalgia.

[@GEMINI52398]

I couldn't stand that shit.

[@AggressivelyLoving]

No matter what both of them did in their lives: this is one of the most gentleman thing I've seen in my life. their aura is just phenomenal.

[@skadi6750]

Yeah, thats kinda the thing with psychos and criminal leaders. They tend to be quite striking and charismatic people. Thats how they hold onto their following. You should be smart and not eat that stuff up.

[@bodybong]

They are more civil than politicians

[@jurxzy]

@@skadi6750 Right? It bugs me to no end how these men are getting glorified. They directly and indirectly destroyed lives. Whether they meant to or not, they did.

[@Solitude_Guard_]

@@jurxzy While you're right to some extent, society as a whole isn't innocent here either, as both of them are a product of societies failure. Hadn't Bobby been convicted on what is likely false charges in his youth, which caused him to lose his job, there's a good chance he'd never end up in that life to begin with. Similarly, if the justice system in these countries weren't fucked, jail wouldn't become the "university of crime" as they put it. "Prisons" as a whole is an outdated system, crime shouldn't be punished to make society "feel good" about punishing a criminal, the people being convicted should be rehabilitated and helped back into society as a whole.

[@childofcascadia]

@jurxzy So, what? People can change. People can go "I was bad, I was wrong. I did evil. I will not do evil anymore." And the people who did that, truly walked away from the evil as both of these men did. They deserve a second chance. Otherwise, what? Whats the point? Why would anyone ever stop being evil if they cant walk away and be forgiven? Its easy to make awful choices and hurt others for personal gain. Its way harder to admit you did wrong, walk away, and spend the rest of your life trying to stop others from making the bad choices you did.

[@alexandrabrondum812]

what a fascinating and interesting conversation. so unreal to be able to watch these two men speak about their experiences, and the level of respect they have for each other is admirable.

[@crimsoncomet3756]

_"mmm mmm yeah yeah"_ - Lvl 100 mafia boss

[@Grizzlyatomz]

Everytime bobby says "mmm" you take a drink 😂

[@tylerramsay1145]

U probably die before u even get half way through the video haha

[@TheBajamin]

2 days later, I have liver disease and can’t remember anything after reading this.

[@pgater128]

You’d be f*cking loaded after 10 seconds 😂

[@denizplays1307]

​@@TheBajamin say sike right now!

[@davidmaguire604]

Lol hard to watch now😂

[@slipsizemo]

"Magicians make smoke but there is no fire" sheeeshhhh thats a wild sentence 😬😬

[@FrancoNogueira666]

"I love wedding cakes" 😂😂😂😂😂 Bobby is a charismatic GOAT

[@TheTexican05]

The amount of manners, eloquence and respect these two showed each other… 🙌 🍻 Incredible they each made it this far in life (age/longevity) coming from those worlds.

[@NVTIVE247]

Here for Bobbys 'hmmm' count 😅

[@NVTIVE247]

@@ShyChapter I couldn't watch it any longer. Annoying 🤦‍♂️

[@dancorry4305]

Did you $h@g my Byrd? Hmmm.

[@cmondevils]

If a hmm was a drinking game 🥴 5 mins in

[@VespasianJudea]

It’s just the way some folks are. I didn’t mind it too much. I can see why you’d think that. My grandmother was that way.

[@michaelharrison3602]

It's called shutting the fuck up and listening not a bad rule too live by

[@Kitty76]

he looks so much younger ! was shocked theyre both same age ! enjoyed watching this ,thankyou for sharing Ladbible

[@J_Isak]

2 veterans of life from different parts of the world talking shop is always a pleasure to watch

[@etherwxlf]

This video brought up a quote in me: "If you wanna keep the streets safe for your families, you gotta keep the crimes safe for the streets."

[@xcuzo]

When he’s said “having an affair with my sister… You can’t survive that 🤷🏻‍♂️” 😂

[@danreyn]

the funny part is that it's not because he will kill the guy. His sister is Poison Ivy. Toxic kisses. You legit can't survive an affair with her

[@blueeyed5074]

....and left it at that :))

[@saucehardt]

@@danreynwow

[@allbies]

@@danreyn ?

[@Christian-CTDC]

​@@allbiesHaving an affair with his sister is like having a kiss with poison ivy. Not because that his sister has a literal poisonous kiss, venomous shit or something, but because his sister is kinda like those Femme Fatale woman, who are good at seducing, distracting their target(which is the person she is having an affair with), while at the same time seeking and tracking down information that can bring down the person she's having an affair with.

[@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL]

What a fantastic sit down. I've been waiting for this for ages. 2 old school gangsters from both sides of the pond who lived by the old code of honour and respect, none of that thuggery Can't wait to see Michael on his UK tour next month.

[@JenHopkinsTheGreat]

❤❤❤

[@MbisonBalrog]

They need bring Sammy the Bull to 🇬🇧 do interview v

[@nslizzy]

Michael snitched

[@pr-tj5by]

@@nslizzy He didn't send anyone down, that's the difference

[@SH7SH7SH7]

Still a criminal 😮

[@valentino5264]

damn what a strong episode. Just 2 OG's talking with respect and showing us what two gentlemens are about.

[@prabkunvar10]

these 2 gentlemen are having a better, more well reasoned, polite and calm sounding conversation than most of the politicians out there😂

[@deadmen8698]

Crime bosses may either hate or love one another but they will still respect each other. Politicians think they have all the power and clash trying to prove who can scream the loudest to obtain their goal.

[@ryanbadene9890]

because they agree and are not part of a rival faction? Gangsters kill their rivals which is not the case for your average democratically elected politician

[@prabkunvar10]

@@ryanbadene9890 yes gangsters do.... but these arnt "gangsters" mah boy! go look up how "ORGANISED CRIME" works!

[@deadmen8698]

@@ryanbadene9890 you have a small point, but rivals even have more civilised discussions than politics, because even rival factions have respect for one another. Unless you are a part of GenZ and Alpha. Where rules have to be bent because they have do not understand what territory is.

[@driessen16]

Yes because they grew up with strict rules that would literally get you killed if you didn’t follow them and those politicians didn’t grow up with any rules

[@Swot78]

For anybody interested as to why Bobby ‘mm’s a lot, it is often done by older British gentlemen as a sign of focus and attention to what the other is saying. My grandpa used to do the exact same thing when talking about a serious matter. It shows Bobby is completely engaged with Michael and his story.

[@Antepithesis]

It's actually still a thing in many other countries in europe, in greece, the balkans in general for example half the people will use the hmm

[@jamescarrico1233]

I think it's very respectful But he's a little over the top Because in his world respect is very important

[@honestreviews1737]

@@jamescarrico1233 way over the top lol, and im british.

[@hikeluv]

I have ADHD and whenever i talk to someone who does the exact same thing it throws me off and makes me forget what i'm talking about

[@toughtitties7426]

India too​@@Antepithesis

[@EJR666]

What a fantastic sit down. Mafia/Underworld. Both men have such interesting stories. Bring on seeing Michael on tour next month!

[@ladyofthelake1841]

Yes I agree.

[@Oldbayisthebestseasoning]

mmm

[@daisukeakihito9832]

This has been an absolutely fascinating watch. In a sense I have to say I hold a lot of respect for people capable of running any form of organized crime because of the obvious risks involved, dealing with the raw nature of us as people, there is nothing for you to fall back on, which is probably why a lot of it has its foundation in loyalty and ground rules. They are both immensely dangerous men, you can sense from the way they talk and carefully tiptoe around certain topics. Still, I can't help myself but be fascinated by their respective ideologies or stories.

[@PhantomSavage]

That wedding will have one hell of a guest list.

[@dingletun]

The utter respect for one another really makes this video.

[@diqital_aviator]

I love the respect guys like this have with each other, like they both did the same wrong things, but the high status remains - this time, as men with amazing stories and tales to tell.

[@lai93]

I gotta say, Kudos to LadBible. Props to you fot making this video, this whole conversation a reality. I cant imagine the production, the dedication, the headaches of trying to fit these 2 in a room together. This has been such an eye-opener. I am in awe of the manners, etiquette & courtesy michael & bobby had for each other. Makes me wonder, why cant normal people like us talk to each other the way they both talked.

[@maskedmilkythe0G]

Having these 2 talk made me realize there was a time in the crime era when it was more civilized than todays time

[@SithMenace]

What? So being a criminal is fine if they are civilised?

[@fantom_inferno4878]

​@@SithMenace yes.

[@RashidT1]

they had more justice and respect in their neighborhood and controlled cities than most of today's "modern" and "safe" cities

[@RashidT1]

@@SithMenace and provide justice and law, yes

[@sirboomsalot4902]

@@RashidT1That’s not how that works.

[@Stonka1]

It's like when Michael is talking, Bobby is playing ping pong in his head, left is "mmm" and right is "yea yea" 🏓

[@deathbringerswill2066]

bless you for that comment bro. thanks

[@Ur_aRizzardHarry]

Sometimes is like he's playing ping pong by himself with one side up and he just spams "mmm"

[@rockandrolleracdc]

Bobby: “mmh” - 2024

[@YakubKang]

mmm

[@realpascinator1356]

made a meme about it on my channel

[@wickywills]

"yep yep yep.....mmh mmh......yep yep"

[@nadiasmemoir]

The respect and genuine interest these two have in each other is truly something amazing

[@retaliaterguitar2]

You can almost feel the energy in that room. Like two apex predators sharing a shade tree and a breeze before going back to their own lives and families. The stories these two men can tell.

[@JC-lz7oy]

That's an excellent way of describing it

[@davidemelia6296]

It's amazing how people like you are able to fellate these scumbags over the Internet ... WHILE typing! That's quite a trick!

[@AedanBlackheart]

Mmhhhmm mmmmm yeaaaah

[@hashimali2852]

Bros doing circles on it

[@Null_Vampyrr]

More like two old lowlifes inventing fables about themselves to seem big, and sell their books to fools.

[@Jchmcom]

"On the outside I was an honest man - straight as an arrow. I had to come to prison to be a crook." Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

[@sercangok523]

Totally irrelevant quote

[@shinren_]

​@@sercangok523lmao seems like you havent seen the video or missed the point of the quote entirely

[@sercangok523]

@@shinren_ I've seen all of it. This guy was a mobster, went to prison as a mobster, changed his views, and came out a lawful man.

[@Jchmcom]

@@shinren_ I just didn't bother. I could link the timestamp but couldn't care enough to correct someone.

[@AlexBadger]

@@sercangok523 not the movie, the video, how both the guys got into crime relates to prison

[@lbnewell23]

The fact that Bobby literally says right at the start “I’ve never been a gangster” and they put it in the title anyway 🙄

[@Dondrepad231]

He was one though despite his semantics

[@concept5631]

Indeed ​@@Dondrepad231

[@torgranael]

At 04:40 in the video "London Gangster Responds To KZbin Comments" on this channel, he actually addresses that. He actually has a bit of a chuckle about it.

[@p8zero58]

In twilight's glow, two men from lost streets meet, One from New York, his voice rough but sweet. He speaks of battles in the city's deep, Where shadows and steel made their promises keep. The other, from England’s rain-soaked lanes, Shares tales of grit through cold and pain. They find solace in their twilight chat, two souls united by the darkness they’ve left behind.

[@gandurk]

"Respect your elders now" goddamn Mike

[@darleschickens3726]

My same thoughts 😆 that seemed more than just saying a phrase

[@carlosespinal17]

How the FUCK are these two the same age

[@Taylor-q8x]

I don’t think Michael could understand 85% of what Bobby was saying

[@ps5user155]

Why?

[@pipeline8554]

i think bobby was a bit drunk

[@priyaanshupatel3571]

thats just the way they talk@@pipeline8554

[@Tactic_16]

Never understood this. English is only my 3rd language and I understand every english accent

[@Jerbo1125]

Hmmm hmmm hmmm

[@fildyb]

God bless LadBible for bringing in these kinds of people together. I had heard of Franzese independently because it's pretty famous on his own, then heard of Cummines from this channel, and having them both together in the same room is just a treat.

[@njerzee911]

Decades of watching British mysteries, crime dramas, this is amazing to listen to; all the nuances , mannerisms, and vocabulary truly make sense, proving how realistic the movies, tv shows were;

[@mvh-]

For all the comments talking about Bobby going hmm mmm. I’m from the uk and have many relatives similar age or older than these two men which also tend to do this. It’s a respectful thing, Bobby is just letting Michael know that he is listening and give him his up most attention. It’s not a “out of his depth” thing, or a “mental decline” it’s pure respect. If you know anything about Bobby or any English gangster… they ain’t scared of sh!t. I genuinely think Bobby was just giving Michael the respect he very much deserves and Michael reciprocated because Bobby deserves just as much

[@soonlet4977]

the amount of people being so rude about it when it's about respect is very ironic

[@Adam-om2je]

It's normal to do at the end of a sentence, not every 2 to 3 words becomes very distracting.

[@smudge9188]

Love this episode by the way. Getting people together from both sides of the pond is the way forward, really interesting.

[@WretchedDrummer]

A movie about either of these guys would be insane!

[@CabooseDOTexe]

This is incredibly wholesome. It's like watching 2 people become friends

[@rRagnaBR]

Excelent amount of respect, presence and taste felt from here. Was quite pleasing to watch.

[@deathmeathook539]

The amount of respect both of them gave each other is just wonderful❤

[@kobegaoyt8923]

Bobby: I'm not a gangster Title: Nah, pretty sure you are

[@happyhavoc-]

My family all from north London and have always said Bobby was a genuine bloke he was a proper face of the community. Amazing video

[@hdplays4105]

Amazing interview and very raw honesty. Incredible insights.

[@CrossedKatana]

This is excellent. Please make a series, will absolutley watch.

[@johnhoward6509]

I thought the Mafia man was about 60 . Great to listen to . Respect to both .

[@HarryGrant-o9u]

"Outta of that list of 50, some 30-odd years later, 48 of em' are dead. Number 49 is doing life, and I'm the only one alive and free." is the biggest flex ever!

[@couragethecowardlydog7333]

We need a re release with just the parts of Bobby reacting to Michael talking

[@VinnyCarwash-js8op]

And Michael's voice silenced so it's just the noises

[@justgary2471]

It would be mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@Lekikna]

Never thought we would reach the point of watching this. Thank you for being open 👏

[@Reptile_Gecko]

Honestly, love the quote "Prison is the university of crime," because it is absolutely right, with the way many prison treat prisoners (even ones with release dates), you really wonder how people can say prison teaches people a lesson and puts them on the right path as it really doesn't. It makes their life hell inside of prison and when out many go right back into illegal activities even scaling up compared to what they previously did. Being in prison does not help people and never will be when society has been and as it is right now (if it doesn't change) it will continue to be the main problem. People's families, their local environment, their educational environment, it's what shapes people into who they become and who they associate it with. So, if you've never been to prison, never came close or never thought about it, really thank the people and environment you grew up around and in, as they helped shape you onto a good path from the beginning as at the end of the day people make choices themselves, but you can't always blame people for making bad choices if you never consider how they felt and what choices they felt they had.

[@JayDee-m9t]

I went at 19, never been in trouble since, helped but only made you smarter not to go back, you still do grime

[@Lynchblack]

Michael holds himself like a proper gentleman and I’m here for it ❤

[@sudbuddiesexteriordetailin9843]

I absolutely love that you both are the same age. Thank you for the experience.

[@magnetsoldiercephas331]

The fact they can be around each other as men and not gangsters is nuts. I bet this would be different 30 years ago. Crazy when you think about it. IMO

[@brownjatt21]

They would be in their 40's 30 years ago. So not much different id imagine lol. Jokes aside they're both slick criminals not reckless thugs. Would still be respectful like here i like to think.

[@ColdHeartedReckless999]

6:43 into the video I’m hearing the dude hmmmmm mmmmm I’m like WTF is that I didn’t realize it was him but now I can’t unhear it 😂😂😂

[@chazvasquez2901]

This back and forth was gold

[@Princess_kitty14]

i always enjoy these twos videos, they're so engaging i love how they tell their stories

[@castlebilliards8712]

Michael and Junior Soprano finally having a sit down

[@kazngoye8836]

I scrolled so far to find a junior soprano reference cause this guy looks almost exactly like him lmao.

[@Benjamin_308]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 wooooo

[@ph.stolensky2385]

Uncle Junior moved to London

[@EJK2099]

I got that reference

[@TurquazCannabiz]

This guy had the makings of a varsity athlete

[@rickybaillie4222]

Tune in next week they have a czechoslovakian interior decorator on

[@petetrujillo4125]

😂😂😂

[@petetrujillo4125]

Fk he looks just like Mr Magoo aka Junior Soprano

[@IvyHale151]

I think of "organized" crime as intelligent crimes: crimes that were thought out meticulously instead of preformed in a burst of emotional impulse. Notice that each had negative experiences with law enforcement that led them to lose respect in the system. They replaced it with their own justice as a way to take back control in their lives. And they still have respect for the officers doing their jobs "just don't frame me" is so real with their backgrounds. What a cool interview

[@morris89swe]

I respect these two. They lived a life of crime, but they made it out. This is fantastic.

[@eekitarkkonen6249]

I dont

[@jurxzy]

I find it hard to respect two thugs who directly and indirectly destroyed lives, whether purposefully or not. Especially when they are lucky to live to old age and not their victims.

[@hwago123]

You’re dumb, these guys caused tremendous harm to society and are still scummy you can see it here and if you can’t then you’re naive.

[@MarioKL]

Thanks for showing me who Bobby Cummines is. I just found his book, it'll arrive in a couple of days, I can't wait to read it 😁

[@pimpozza]

Love this channel! What a fascinating interview.. (apart from Bobby's excessive "hmmm"s which did me 'ead in! 😂🤦🏻‍♀️) Unbelievable Michael's 72.. same age as Bobby! He looks great.. I saw him on Piers Morgan too the other day.. very charismatic guy.. 👍

[@johnrossiterofficial]

I literally couldn’t focus on a word Michael was saying because if that damn “hmm” “hmm” “hmm” 😂

[@chartreux1532]

Regarding the shocking Age Difference: Has nothing to do with Genes but how much Stress, Bad Food, Diseases etc. you experienced in your Life. I'm German and one of my Relatives was a convicted War Criminal of WW2 he spent most of WW2 in a 24/7 stressful Environment and after the War both in a Gulag for 10 Years and then also a few Years in a Western Allied Prison in Germany. He died at the age of 97 but while i grew up with him around he basically looked the same at Age 68 as my Paternal Grandfather (Also a WW2 Veteran but not a War Criminal nor ever a POW) when he was in his late 80s. I often think about that stark Contrast and how it explains why a lot of WW2 Veterans especially (from any Country) somehow looked and acted like they're in their 90s while they were in their early 70s, while their Children who are now in their early 70s look about 20 Years younger than their Fathers did Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

[@Sleepywalk112]

Don't forget he is a cosa nostra still, after you've taken the oath you dont get out of cosa nostra alive. He might be charismatic but he wont blink a eye if he got orders to shoot you, keep that in mind.

[@SuniaHowe-ew2gu]

11:26 lool that one liners a classic 😂😂😂