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@kinghengkeithleung39317 ай бұрын
Blew my mind that this amount of gain reduction is "enough" rather than too much - so helpful, thanks!
@taylorofficial32976 ай бұрын
Probably you are the greatest production teacher on the whole internet! Thanks!
@akifakizieleo23647 ай бұрын
I was bout finishing a vox mix literally when this video pop up last night. I've been following HMS for a couple of years now, and last night I was thinking I wish I could see how Jordan does his thing on the way in (I know he's always be using a distressor) and there you go! I do agree bout the blacky vs bluey 76 - bluey is edgier even after you mellow down the settings. On an old vid of this topic, Jordan has said a total of 35db to 40db of gain reduction on compressors is totally normal. Let that sink in guys. The idea, the format, the style. For a beginner, 40db of gain reduction is a unthinkable - absolute madness. With more and more experience doing it, you'll start understand it eventually. I'm not saying this is the only way of mixing a vox - for these kind of genres it's a necessity. Keep pushing guys. Thank you Jordan and happy mixing everyone! 🤟🤟🤟
@WhiteTheGray7 ай бұрын
Dude you have helped me tremendously with so much thanks for the channel man!
@twaltmusic7 ай бұрын
Love the visual representations you've been showing recently to get a better understanding of the impact the compression is having. Thanks a bunch!
@mathewstudio7 ай бұрын
I started to watch your videos like a month ago.. I don't make music, I'm a filmmaker, but I really enjoy your videos!
@mosstet7 ай бұрын
Fairplay
@danjwalker7 ай бұрын
Sweet. I use a Distressor for my vox on the way in. I usually keep it 5 across the board (the manual recommends that as a good starting point). Can't wait to try out your settings!
@QuincyKane5 ай бұрын
Great video; thanks!
@whome8067 ай бұрын
Dudes the best free information out here
@skinnywonderz71817 ай бұрын
Love the compressor trick , thank you , would also love to see the delay effects on the vocals.
@eweesplace6 ай бұрын
He has vids on that
@ShimanskiBeats7 ай бұрын
Very useful video, very good explanations, helps a lot! I liked especially how you showed with the waveforms how each compressor does something different
@jordan17bliss6 ай бұрын
The videos are great. Truly. I wish there was less click bate ish terms like "Radio.Ready" or "Pros". You are doing great work, but the youtube thumbnails and buzz terms make some of us feel like Ughhhhh. Just be you man - youre killing it!
@unicormaidfrankenstein7 ай бұрын
Thanks! So great to see how you do this from an un effected signal starting point. Your advice and insight into the processis very helpful! 🦄🧜♀️🌭🍺
@guitarplayer59327 ай бұрын
I always had trouble getting the fireplace vocals to sit right in the mix. This helped a lot. I didnt think if going that heavy with compressors
@TheBandofMAGISTERIUM4 ай бұрын
Hey Sir! through your channel I'm seeing my dreams coming true that someday I can produce a quality song. I know that by watching your content from time to time I can gradually improve my skills in mixing.. THANK YOU SO MUCH Sir!!!
@cgsmithinnola7 ай бұрын
Wow. I was doing 2:1 or 4:1 - was being way too careful! Thanks for the tips!
@tsivilsඞ7 ай бұрын
SAME!
@huberttorzewski7 ай бұрын
4:1 is enough most of the time. For overall volume control 2:1 and 3:1 have a softer knee on most compressors so they're better for overall gentle volume control and adding thickness. 4:1 with fast release is adding more agression and top end due to more generated harmonics and harder knee. 8:1 on 1176 is very pushed sounding because the knee is hard and more harmonics are generated and you can add the aggression without compressing as much as Jordan on the video. So there are other ways to achieve the same thing and even with a better sounding result sometimes
@earledaniels45397 ай бұрын
Great video. By the way, your BSA plugins are fantastic. I have Reviver and DSR and I use them all the time.
@daniel.ferraz.music.youtube5 ай бұрын
Hard hard knowledge/stuff! Thanks for sharing
@singerofthenight67362 ай бұрын
got here cuz your other video thanks for this content !!!
@GudlaugurMusic7 ай бұрын
I took note from your previous videos on vocal compression. I do not consider myself a great (or even a good) vocalist, in fact I hate singing, it's just out of necessity. But these methods have made me sound pretty damn good considering. People I know have gone whoa is that you? Basically the less it sounds like me the better ha ha.
@normannutbar4247 ай бұрын
Love it man. Long time subscriber and fan. I just wanted to mention that I’m (admittedly) listening on my iPhone speakers, but those vocals kinda vanish into the mix. Sounds awesome with my AirPods though.
@justinreynolds39357 ай бұрын
I love the comments about he should have done this or eq that etc. he was focusing on compression only. One part of the equation. Calm down kids. Also mixing is very opinionated. I think he holds more worth then most of us so be thankful for the info. Also things always sound weird solo'd out. Why you should not mix in solo. Lol.
@SHOCMUSIC2 ай бұрын
Very nice tutorial!
@RedSeaMastering7 ай бұрын
Thanks for so useful info. Could You define "radio ready sound" please?
@GregorPQ7 ай бұрын
Great video! Did you try de-essing with Melodyne?
@sansproductionlounge80837 ай бұрын
Love your stuff Jordan :) I’ll have to give the distressor a go on the top of my next vocal chain. Do you use much MB compression as well? I love using a MB compressor especially on the low end of the vocal controlling 600hz and below :)
@hardcoremusicstudio7 ай бұрын
Only when there's a problem with abnormally crazy low end on the vocal
@sansproductionlounge80836 ай бұрын
@@hardcoremusicstudio for sure! Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with the world. Just amazing man.
@DennisAlvey7 ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel. Diggin' it bigtime. Thanks!!!
@BobDietrich17 ай бұрын
I have watched many videos about compression. Some use fast compression first then slower later. Others use medium to slow compression first then fast compression later. Does it matter which comes first?
@chriskemp4667 ай бұрын
Did you use fast attack on the SSL because that is still slow enough to let the transients through?
@dstagl7 ай бұрын
@hardcoremusicstudio What are you using the limiter at the end of the chain for?
@joaoantoniovione4847 ай бұрын
not a troll question but if some of these compressors are bringing up the plosives and vocal transients harder... why not eliminate the pop filter at the recording stage and engage a contour/high pass on all compressors?
@Fernando-ry5qt7 ай бұрын
My gad I've been playing music for more than 15 years and I can not for the life of me catch the subtle differences between compression levels and the blue and black versions of the compressor. Any tips on getting better at listening to the fine details? I already have a monitor setup and I even EQ's them to the room, but I still have a hard time listening to the subtleties
@sadller7 ай бұрын
To really “hear” compression, try to listen on the lowest volume, so low, that some quieter parts of vocals start to disappear. Then, add compression )
@Fernando-ry5qt7 ай бұрын
@@sadller ..... interesting..... that is actually a pretty simple approach I've never considered. I guess that you eventually start to develop a better ear for it and no longer need to dip the volume?
@ferenclucas28427 ай бұрын
Just saw a video😢 for new behringer 369 Does that look good? It sounded pretty good
@charlesmaurilio7 ай бұрын
Squash those vocals!
@scottykomer99927 ай бұрын
Love it.
@patopodesta32947 ай бұрын
This video is gold
@richrude82287 ай бұрын
So….would it be logical to process the vocal with the distresser to start to emulate as if it were being recorded that way? It would save DSP.
@joelvandam7 ай бұрын
I use a 73-style preamp with an 1176-style compressor on the way in. This sounds amazing but accentuates the sibilance immensely. Any tips on that?
@HardRocker477 ай бұрын
Yep ! Jordan uses a De-esser after all these compressors.
@officialWWM7 ай бұрын
You gotta squeeze that thing!
@iamthefirsttosecond7 ай бұрын
Good lord, those lyrics, mercy!
@billesposito21127 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@montipebo82137 ай бұрын
Nice ❤
@splinband7 ай бұрын
Just do yourself a favour and listen to Bruce Dickinson's isolated vocal track for The Trooper. Blew my mind how compressed it is but it sounds so damn good. Nice vid btw!
@whosyabobby7 ай бұрын
Bruh. Can you do one on how you would edit/mix the tracks that aren't already perfect?
@hinesification7 ай бұрын
Ever use a vocal rider as well?
@davejohnsonmusic7 ай бұрын
Curious that you call a Distressor a "transparent" compressor. Most of the emulations out there have 3 saturation modes. Sure, you can back that off, but I feel like people tend to use this as a character compressor, more than a transparent one.
@greghillmusic7 ай бұрын
And he chose to use it to get to a smoother starting point.
@DaftyBoi4127 ай бұрын
The pysical disressor box is an anagloug signal pathed compressor but with mostly digital circuitry doing the gain reduction, and as a result can emulate many diferant styles of compression, both super clean as well as very saturated and coloured, depending on it's settings (and any good emulation should be able to do so too).
@Just-gt9oo9 күн бұрын
👍
@mirkomarkovic34387 ай бұрын
How to compress vocals? Sta-Level 40db gain reduction done
@joa12327 ай бұрын
I don't know whats the difference, but when I use a compressor that hits so much my vocals get muffled and loose energy.
@daniel.ferraz.music.youtube5 ай бұрын
Give it more attack time, to let transient away from the compression
@simonwalker20737 ай бұрын
The AI generated thumbnail is the perfect metaphor for a video like this.
@EddySchmidt257 ай бұрын
Yeah bb!!
@tuantranproduction2 ай бұрын
Today I try about 20dB of gain reduction then boom! Magic! 😆😆
@nooneinparticular98687 ай бұрын
This is a mandroid song I haven’t heard…. I must talk to Steve haha
@nomandad20002 ай бұрын
Vince Neil’s screamo project
@48official482 ай бұрын
Uh I actually really liked the blue version
@manuelgasse2 ай бұрын
I feel like in all your videos, probable because of the music genre, everything is always slammed. And then it gets slammed again when it plays on the radio.
@TerrenceCallahan2 ай бұрын
"The P of the Princess" hmm
@zavlqaDIprab3DrublsU7 ай бұрын
As soon as I see anyone use the phrase 'magic settings' or 'cheat sheet' under the premise of teaching mixing you've instantly lost all credibility in my book. For anyone new to mixing, FYI there is no such thing.
@WolfNFG7 ай бұрын
True, but I look at them as starting points. And I’ve gotten 100x happier with my mixes in 10% the time with these guidelines as starting points!
@MrKinglith137 ай бұрын
He also says these are just starting points
@PartyOnDude_7 ай бұрын
It gives beginners a starting point to use something they have a very limited understanding of. It's super helpful. He's never said it's a silver bullet and the same settings can be applied to every mix
@GammaQuadrantStudio7 ай бұрын
That’s kinda a moot point come from a random commenter with literally 0% credibility. It’s not about it truly being “magic” or a one fix for all problems. It’s about the people who like the way Jordan thinks about and utilizes compression (in this case) in HIS mixes. It’s about the viewers confidence in the person speaking to them.
@adamescape27 ай бұрын
Two things. 1) Cheat sheet is the same frequency recommendations as most plugin presets. It’s presented as frequency ranges for beginners, like you. Go check it out. 2) post a link to your work so we can see why your opinion about an engineer with a pretty decent book, should matter. Looking forward to hearing how pro your results are. Super excited about it, thanks!!
@mitchdeathblossom7 ай бұрын
Some nasty autotune editing on that 'you the one' line... 😫
@golbeatspro7 ай бұрын
that was uncomfortable
@heddshot877 ай бұрын
Fr, disappointed
@kyronnewbury7 ай бұрын
Uncomfortable? I'm confused
@chuckcostello51677 ай бұрын
@@heddshot87 disappointed how? Did this video not explain what he was talking about?
@golbeatspro7 ай бұрын
For me, the vocals got really aggressive, not in a good way that's why it got uncomfortable...
@kyronnewbury7 ай бұрын
@@golbeatspro ya. Solo'd was intense. But he does mix hard rock. But I get where you're coming from now. He didn't really get into de-essing which would fix some of that
@Binkley4477 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your videos, but I never work in rock or metal. Would these apply to RnB or jazz vocals as well? Looking for more resources that apply to specifically soul/rnb/funk type mixing but I haven't found many
@corrosive1357 ай бұрын
Try Audio Mountain
@hardcoremusicstudio7 ай бұрын
yes, the compression approach definitely applies. Only the amount changes. The softer / sparser the arrangement, the less you need to slam the vocal to achieve the desired effect.
@babetopaz3 ай бұрын
I now use clip gain, cut the vocal track and adjust the gain, I then add some gentle LA2A, I still sound shit, but even.