Magic Review - Stack Watch V2 by Peter Turner & Ellusionist

[@magicorthodoxy]

Review: stack watch v1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWbOfZSXmMebl7M

[@jaynav62]

I believe you can change the date without having to go through the time forwarding. If you pull the stem all the way out and then lightly press it in for one click, you can then turn the stem through the dates, once done you can press the stem in again with a second click to resume the watch operation. Pulling the stem all of the way out will allow you to change the time as normal.

[@magicorthodoxy]

thanks !!!

[@MrKingEsq]

... And an excellent way to force a time 😉🤫

[@Dannythaline]

Great video david!!!! THANKS FOR THE MENTION & shout out!!! Hope you are keeping well 😊😊

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks! You too!

[@tylersmith2545]

Love your videos David! Always drop whatever I’m doing to watch!

[@magicorthodoxy]

You rock!

[@Magicnickt]

The bezel on the V2 is a lot more tight and stays in place which I like. I think it's a good improvement

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks for sharing

[@Magicnickt]

@@magicorthodoxy You're welcome. Ellusionist also had an invite only KZbin Live event last week. Pete covered the date option and some ideas on how to use it for tricks that don't involve cards at all. Some really good stuff. They said they'd be adding to the tutorials for both V1 and V2 owners

[@Dave062YT]

As a watch guy [I own about 35 [ I can see this is a cheap and cheerful Chinese quartz that will keep fantastic time but won't have fantastic quality control so it will be hit or miss on how tight the bezel is ,which can be tightened up if you know how but entails levering it off with a butter knife and adjusting the spring clip inside ; Not all watches have a quick date feature [this is a cheap movement and might not] but if it does you just push the crown in one position from where you set the time and turn it anti clockwise and it flies thru the dates super fast .Also you can change the strap for any of that size [usuaully 20 or 22 mm]most of which are quick release nowadays and only takes seconds .You can change up the look every day this way .Did you end up keeping this one David and if so how did it hold up over time?

[@magicorthodoxy]

I still own both of mine, but I felt it was better to learn a stack than rely on a watch

[@DavidM-lj5yv]

"Everything we do is a cheat!!" I love it. Great comment Dave!!!

[@magicorthodoxy]

:D

[@tonyrazzano9912]

Another outstanding review, Dave! Thanks!

[@magicorthodoxy]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@PhilippBoettcher]

Here is a hint from an experienced Analog Watch wearer 😉. You only wind until the date changes. Then you wind the crown back one turn and forth again one turn and hop, the date changes again. Do this until you get to the correct date. With 31 quick flicks of the hand you move through a whole month. It is really quick. 😀

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks for the info

[@PhilippBoettcher]

@@magicorthodoxy You are very welcome. Knowing the popularity of your channel, it might help others facing the same issue. Love your work by the way

[@daverothberg2624]

the date 2️⃣5️⃣ change is the same as any good watch ... I have original version ... Peter Turner’s support to customers is great ( ie his recent owners only 1 1/2 hour live session of answering questions, doing performances and tips) ... thanks for the review David 👍🏻 ⏱

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks for stopping by

[@kalvinhepple5975]

Clever memory device!Looks nice.Ace review.Thanks.

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnwoo7624]

Another great review THANKS DAVID

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks for watching!

[@markbooth8612]

I purchased Stack Watch version 1. Worst magic purchase in years. The bezel shifts position with even the tiniest accidental bump. I shared my concerns with Ellusionist and they sent me a replacement. The bezel on that one was even easier to accidentally move. Sent that one back and put the first one in a drawer, never to be used again. IMHO, it's a cheap piece of junk. The version 2 doesn't look any better. My Stack Watch experience, combined with the ridiculous rebirth of Ellusionist stunt they pulled a few weeks ago, means I will never make a purchase from Ellusionist again.

[@magicorthodoxy]

sorry to hear that - I've had mine since it was first released - and didn't experience any of that - and the second watch bezel spins even better. Sell yours on ebay - dont keep magic you dont use !!! Only keep what you love - or sell it in the magic cafe - there are even places to sell magic on facebook! Good luck

[@markbooth8612]

@@magicorthodoxy I would feel guilty if I tried to sell this piece of junk to someone else. So, better to let it sit in a drawer.

[@magicorthodoxy]

@@markbooth8612 just wear it as a cool watch - the watch only works if you walk around with a deck in Mnemonica. 98% of the time my deck is a mess and 50% of the time it's at home LOL - sorry again about your bad purchase.

[@geenalbach7591]

Thanks David for your reviews! Will there come an review of Triple Helix?

[@magicorthodoxy]

I hope so

[@rays5163]

The date only setting in one way is pretty common on most watches it has something to do with protecting the gear train. I don't own a stack watch but i do collect watches and you should be able to pull the crown out halfway to set the date. You should also take care not to change the date near the time it turns over. Of tou have to just set the time back a couple hours, fix the date, then fix the time or just do it during the day.

[@magicorthodoxy]

oh yea, I've figured it out since then - thanks !!!

[@rays5163]

@@magicorthodoxy thank you for the reviews

[@BrandonJPearce]

Did you have trouble moving the bezel of the V2? I had to use WD40 because it stuck too much. Additionally there was an additional NEW KZbin live Peter Turner did explaining some effects with the date wheel. Hopefully Ellusionist puts that new one in the downloads.

[@magicorthodoxy]

No trouble using the bezel

[@abilash74]

Waiting for shin lim evolutionist magic kit review, want to decide buy it or not😉

[@magicorthodoxy]

I dont' have it yet

[@dominiqueblanco9560]

Take how to read minds from Turner if I may advice you a kit. You get so much value from over 10 hours of Peter teaching. Just incredible and is even in 30% discount by ellusionist

[@Zax-Magic-Israel]

Dose the white bezel makes visibility of the stack better than the 1st watch?

[@magicorthodoxy]

YES !!!!!

[@paulksicinski6181]

I sure would like someone to tell Ellusionist they should allow people who buy their products to download the instructional video!

[@magicorthodoxy]

yea ....

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

Which stack watch is easier to read, as far as the card indicator goes, for people with poor eyesight?

[@magicorthodoxy]

this one

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

@@magicorthodoxy thanks. I have pretty poor vision so that's my main concern.

[@JCMagic]

How is it powered?

[@magicorthodoxy]

standard watch battery

[@JCMagic]

@@magicorthodoxy Ah what a shame...could be solar or kinetic but I personally think that making the switch to a leather band opens up more possibilities than the black bracelet. And the silver/ steel just looks so much better. I can't stand Black on black on black. Add some color, brown, blue, yellow something just not the black. Got to have the pizazz!!

[@westonding8953]

I cannot quite put my finger on the trick but I envision it’s a trick where the watch offers something to help you make a prediction?

[@davemunro6380]

Peter turner is the man!

[@magicorthodoxy]

agreed

[@chriscurrie3769]

Hey David. Any hesitation to do this review because of the V1?

[@magicorthodoxy]

no

[@thefancystache3793]

Another great review! I'm two months into memorizing this and I keep getting stuck at the 4 of clubs 😑. But I'm only putting in about 6 hours a day on it so I'm not too disappointed in myself 😂 I wanted to say this two days ago but didn't want this comment up when the video was new, but I got a feel you really didn't like this thing. Taking 5 seconds to scroll through the days to change the date isn't a big deal, but you spending a minute twenty on it made me think you were giving us a sort of wink to avoid it. Anyways, if I'm WAY off on that, no big deal because it didn't cost them a sale as I don't wear a watch and wouldn't have bought it regardless. If for some reason you're still reading my rambling, I've been meaning to ask you something regarding wallets. I've recently put a lot of time into my cop and am about to make my first wallet purchase and the only thing I want it for is edc and c2w. After seeing almost everyone rave about the FPS, I was surprised it didn't show up on your top 5. So now I'm stuck between FPS and the one by Kun. Is the money clip the only reason the FPS didn't make your tip 5 list? If I liked folds and clips equally, which wallet do you think is best for the c2w move? I realize I put this at the end of a novel so if you don't see it I'll ask in a shorter form on a later vid 😂

[@magicorthodoxy]

I spent the time to tell people how to change the time - because I knew people would watch my video JUST FOR THAT one piece of info - so I wanted to help as much as I could. I wear this watch almost every day as my every day watch. FPS was my number one trick for 2020 (you didn't watch that video? LOL)

[@thefancystache3793]

@@magicorthodoxy I did watch that video, but then it wasn't in your top 5 so I was confused. Am still confused. If the FPS had a fold instead of clip would you prefer it to Kun's?

[@thefancystache3793]

@@warriorpoet8119 thank you!

[@zerohourtv256]

Looks like a nice watch

[@magicorthodoxy]

it really is

[@westonding8953]

It’s like saying a calculator replaces learning arithmetic or the skills you developed from learning math. It does not. It’s just there to make doing the math more efficient.

[@magicorthodoxy]

Yes !!!!

[@colestrosbergmagic5650]

can you do a review of shin lims new magic set?

[@magicorthodoxy]

COMING SOON

[@pinballwizard666]

Good review. It's interesting to hear your views re 'cheating'. I'm sure there is a boundary where it becomes unacceptable and maybe, with some of the 'chipped' props now available, ... where every card can be tracked, that maybe we have approached it. But if I did it for a living then just show me the money! Cheers4now 👍

[@magicorthodoxy]

I think as magicians we probably make our own boundaries

[@dwightbaldwin2221]

Magicians methods are all either lieng, cheating, stealing

[@pinballwizard666]

@@dwightbaldwin2221Absolutely! I suppose I'm really talking about the kind of magic I prefer! Don't misunderstand me. I'm no purist! I'll use a svengali deck at every opportunity but electronic wizardry ain't for me. 👍

[@justsaying9483]

I will never look at a watch the same way again...

[@magicorthodoxy]

:D

[@dannydoughboy120]

Don't think I'd have TIME to bother with this one!

[@JCMagic]

Rolex Danny... just rewind a little and make your own time.

[@magicorthodoxy]

LOL

[@dannydoughboy120]

@@JCMagic for sure, and when your retired, time don't matter anymore! 😂

[@robjacks2748]

Cheating is the only way to get ahead in life. BTW, have you tried to pull the little pin a bit more. Many watches have two settings. One pull to set the time and pull it further out to set the date. Just an idea. Great review.

[@magicorthodoxy]

ill try it

[@tommarquette9706]

Am Aronson guy. Each new tool or book seems to signal the demise of the stack. Sad. The shadow of the man fades.

[@magicorthodoxy]

well, there are lots of other great stacks out there - it's Mnemonica seems to get all of the love

[@satyamsamson3212]

sir make a review of evolushin magic set by shin lim plz sir

[@magicorthodoxy]

ok

[@Victoroftheapes]

Cribs are fine but they are actually not easy to use well. People instinctively follow your eyes, and lots of performers tip that they are using a crib if they are not careful about it. A memdeck crib on a watch 1)can't be seen when a deck is held in left hand dealing grip (the position that deck is likely to be in a lot of the time) 2) is hard to see unless you have good eyesight and lighting, and 3) puts the crib in a place that people will notice you looking (and looking at your watch is often considered rude). There is a good "security" crib described in Mnemonica that is free and doesn't require you to coordinate it with your shoes. If you buy phoenix decks, you get a free crib that can hide pretty well in plain site and has stack numbers! I can't see the justification for spending $50 on this, when you could spend it on any of a number of excellent memdeck books (Any of Simon Aaronson's books, Woody Aragon's Book, Pit Hartling's Book, all of them sit at around $50 or $60 if they are in print), or on marked decks (there's a good crib! especially with a memdeck!) or even a plain watch that works with your outfit. Also, do I understand you correctly that you need to move through every minute of every day in order advance the date? My calendar watch has a separate winder position (halfway) that only moves the calendar. And it isn't a Rolex. Unless I misunderstand you this thing looks like a bad crib on a mediocre watch.

[@magicorthodoxy]

great points !!!!

[@YazMagic]

i like it 🤩

[@magicorthodoxy]

:D

[@jacksonbollock]

Keep forgetting to learn mnemonica

[@magicorthodoxy]

I keep forgetting how to spell it

[@jacksonbollock]

@@magicorthodoxy 😂

[@DJRosen]

Every time I give E another chance it bites me, I bought the first one. In 9 months from now they will release another one where they will fix the date issue and add the month to justify it. They continue to disappoint as a magic house.

[@magicorthodoxy]

:(

[@magicthespian6866]

It's less of an upgrade and more of a different color, if that helps you out.

[@DJRosen]

Disagree. The bezel movement has changed in that its tighter and there is now a date on the face not to mention the band adjustments. Had they not rushed out V1 they would not even have a V2. 9 months R&D? I think not. More of the same from these guys. Money grab. I have purchased somethings from E that I am very happy with but overall, they leave a bad taste.

[@magicthespian6866]

@@DJRosen Again, more just different... The V1 was not rushed, it was a concept Pete was working on for a really long time and finally found someone to put the investment in. The band of the V1 is also not bad, just different, yet something people are not used to -- nor popularly like (justifiably so), yet still a preference. You are bringing up preferences, yelling money grab and asserting negativity that does not need to exist on a public forum in an already toxic community people are trying to build up better and evolve from. Lift up the things you love or constructively criticize. Keep your anger directed elsewhere.

[@DJRosen]

@@magicthespian6866 we will have to agree to disagree. To come out with a fixed version 9 months later is crap not to mention the fact that it's rendered v1 essentially unsellable as well.

[@braydenf7272]

Awesome review/comparison! All magicians are cheaters at heart😂

[@magicorthodoxy]

Yes they are!

[@shawnmcdowell5477]

That is not a bad price for this magicians tool.

[@magicorthodoxy]

agreed

[@patricktrujillo8421]

I wanted to buy the watch, but I don't use watches.

[@magicorthodoxy]

you can still buy it and not use it - LOL

[@joeyb2946]

A cheat sheet! Lol

[@magicorthodoxy]

YES !!!!

[@magicmagicman]

This is a perfect example of a magic product that doesn't need to exist. Here's any idea, just learn the stack and don't rely on this. You should know the stack inside out and have instant recall before you perform any effects and fumbling with a watch is just a bad bad idea. Their own ad copy says "You don't need to try to learn it... requires no work" . I completely disagree. OR just print out the stack order and stick it on the card box if you insist. I've just saved you plenty of money. You're welcome.

[@magicorthodoxy]

YES! I have a stack of these as well! Great reminder for anyone who wants an affordable solution www.penguinmagic.com/p/12280

[@Ombiaux]

@@magicorthodoxy an affordable solution (tyhat you can even make yourself) and a much better solution! For knowing that, one has to perform with a MD in the real world. Glad you have that too at least :-)

[@magicorthodoxy]

@@Ombiaux you can catch a glimpse of them in the Only Ideas Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/haiaZJKNm7GdiMU

[@mattyboi9062]

Day 100 of saying hi a nice watch for a nice video and nice number sorry I was busy so didn’t comment on the other 2 video I can’t believe it is day 100

[@magicorthodoxy]

hi

[@Ombiaux]

Bye a book from Aronson, Tamariz, Behr, Hartling or Matt Baker. Don' waste your money.

[@magicorthodoxy]

A fellow book lover! YES! Bound to Please is amazing - don't forget Woody! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYm4pmqlm9FqjMU

[@jackyergensen8053]

Hiaaa

[@magicorthodoxy]

hey

[@Nevio_024]

Second

[@magicorthodoxy]

2

[@NotRKelly.]

First

[@Nevio_024]

Damn, only second

[@magicorthodoxy]

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