MAGIC SHIFT ADAPTER + SHIFT LENS | 3x3 SHIFTED PANORAMA PHOTO | GIGAPIXEL TECHNIQUE

[@Sonofagreatdad]

Mathphotographer, you have the life I dream of. When I saw you had the Phase one xt I was envious. thanks for this video, I would have never found this product

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks Kahlil, I truly love what I am doing but don't judge too early ;) My life is hard work, many times between 13 and 16 hours a day :) And a lot of travel on top. And hardly true holidays. But its ok - its the life I chose :) and I love it that way.

[@andyvan5692]

also for refference, in Australia, the Phase one XF body is $60,000 ( with the IQ-4 {150MP} sensor back included+ 80mm standard lens (6x4.5cm format)), I think the XT is a little less than this (~$35,000?), as the xf has a separate focal plane shutter, electrics, viewfinder, etc inside the body(plus it's own battery); conversely the XT is simmilar to an ALPA TC body, shift controls, shutter button, turning tripod mount,THAT's all, the IQ-4 has the electric shutter, and all else, it is designed to work together, as a "kit" the back interface even changes into "XT-mode" giving coordinates to the shift, so the Capture One inside the IQ-4 can correct for CA, Distortion, vignetting, etc. as well as giving the user ONLY what is strictly nessesary to use when shooting, minimal distractions.

[@michaeljenner1795]

Very thorough and clear. I totally appreciate this information and presentation. You did a great job. Thank you so much. This is just what i need to know.

[@mathphotographer]

Glad it was helpful!

[@EyeCaptureImages]

Canon TS-E lenses have been able to do a 3x3 shift stitch for over a decade. I use this technique all the time.

[@frankluo230]

How to move right and up at the same time?

[@EyeCaptureImages]

@@frankluo230 All current TS-E lenses (and newer Nikon PC-E lenses) give you the ability to rotate the shift axis. I own 3 TS-E lenses so I can speak from experience. While rotating the shift axis, there are 2 notches where you can shift the lens diagonally - moving right and up at the same time. At least 2 of the lenses in his collection have the ability to do this already without adding any adapters - which would likely affect image quality as well.

[@marc-oliviergiguere3290]

@@EyeCaptureImages It's not full 3 X 3. The 4 corners are about 60 % covered with you technique which I tried.

[@alexmarchesini96]

That's a great idea, I've been learning about these ts lenses for commercial photography use and I love this kind of hacks. I've seen some similar adapters on alliexpress but they don't have the magnifying element, they are hollow. Which may benefit your image quality since your dedicated T&S lenses already have a big enough image circle. That Phase One looks Gorgeous!

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

It is possible to make a 67 to 645 shift adapter, and there are 645 to mirrorless shift adapters. So it's technically possible to have a double shift adapter without introducing another optical element. It might be even possible to to adapt 645 lenses to mirrorless with double shift. Sounds like a fun 3D print project.

[@kingling1825]

have you considered to try the kipon ef - e shift adapter with the 17mm TSE? It has no element inside. So no crop.

[@ioio5993]

Just want to say, that my 45 year old Pentax 28mm/f3.2 Shift lens, shifts and rotates around a clock face - taking 12 images, with the 13th in the center. It takes in all the corners, producing an incredible stitched image.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for your comment, clearly helpful.

[@gamkagan]

Thanks for this informative video. What do you think about mounting a 35mm Mamiya M645 medium format lens on shift adapter for sony e mount camera? The equivalent would be 21mm. Would this achieve shift functionality, and sharp images?

[@rileysmithphoto]

It wold be incredible if Laowa made an EF to RF version of this adaptor. Thank you.

[@shrimage]

it's available now

[@joselobo7809]

Nice video. Can you keep smaller apertures on TS-E lens when teke off it from a sony mirrorless camera using a EF-E adapter with electronic contacts?

[@GodfreyMann]

One advantage you missed out: this adapter has a tripod collar, which means the lens doesn’t move: the camera body shifts around the lens thus keeping the identical perspective between shifts. But the Canon tilt-shift lenses don’t have a tripod collar ie it’s the camera that attaches to the tripod and the Canon lenses shift left and right and with each shift comes a slight change in perspective. That’s the theory, but is it relevant is in real-world application or is it unnoticeable?

[@Tokomaru2]

It would have been interesting to compare these results with a simple prime lens being shifted using the tripod.

[@RichardSilvius]

Unfortunately it appears Laowa does not offer this in L mount at this time. This begs the question - are there any adapters you know of to get PC lenses working (with aperture control) on L mount bodies?

[@denisl1071]

Thanks a lot for the video, and what about parallax when moving the lens and stitching? ideally we should move the back standard for subsequent stitching.

[@xavierneves]

Your video is very educational. Thanks. I have the Laowa MSC and I have now learned how to use it better. I have a question, perhaps a silly one, but here it goes. The final 3x3 shifted panomarama photo, if it were possible with just one lens, what would the angle and focal length be? Thanks.

[@Schroeder3000]

wahnsinn Deine Ausrüstung! macht echt Spaß da mal rein zu gucken :) Danke für das informative Video!

[@kevin-parratt-artist]

The SA 28 mm Pc shift I have allows for 45° shift. The lens was also available in other mounts. I bought mine with an M42 mount. I contacted Schneider to ask for a Nikon F mount. They had only 2 pieces remaining, so I bought one of them. So my Schneider 28mm PC shift is now used a lot on the Nikon F3, and with adapter on a Sony A7Rii with 42mp. I bought the Schneider 28mm because it has no distortion. The others, Nikon and Canon are inferior.

[@wansonicful]

I think I have watched this video before.... But I miss the essential points.... (since I h:) ve owned the laowa magic shift + ts 17mm + a7r4). Now I got it. Thank you @mathphotographer :)

[@RemiManWithVan]

hi thanks for this video, one question how the focus works on canon 24-70 lens when its already mounted on magic shift adapter? i understand the aperture were selected on the canon mirrorless

[@andyvan5692]

great video, but could you also have some more content on the Phase One XF/XT bodies, their lenses, etc. would be nice to see another perspective on them, NOT from Phase One, or any of their own "Ambassadors".

[@jadarsan]

smart. 3 x 3. approaching medium format resolution. thx for the idea. I am off trying it with my nikon + laowa msc video a bit long. but the conclusion worth it! thx.

[@Sergey-Primak]

is there such a Tilt-Shift adapter from Canon to Canon?

[@krzysztofligeza1]

Hi, thank you for the video. This is very useful! I am really surprised that we can use lenses other than Laowa with this converter. Looks like I was misled in the camera shop, where I asked about it some time ago (and left the theme out)... Good to know that! BTW regarding the TS lenses, for high-resolution purposes you can use diagonal shifting, working on rotation. It is perhaps not that convenient compromise but if there is enough time - very usable. Regards, Krzysztof

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks and agree.

[@uploadchannel3779]

Audio quality improves again even more at 26:34! Cool.

[@marc-oliviergiguere3290]

Very, very interesting. Tell me want one thing: Is there any noticeable distortion or vignetting if you do a 5 photo panorama (1 row); meaning that if your tilt-shift is completely shifted to the right and you shift the adapter also to the right.

[@mathphotographer]

No, worked well, no noticeable distortion.

[@marc-oliviergiguere3290]

@@mathphotographer Awesome thanks.

[@BrightExposure]

What if you combine Laowa Magic Shift Converter with Lensbaby Comporser Pro II?

[@wawanbalik]

First video that I've watched on your channel, liked and subscribed. Thank you and about to buy the Laowa Lens, MSC and filter holder.

[@nareshdas779]

Superb!

[@stephensteliou4128]

is there any msc converter for nikon cameras f mount or z mount?

[@kfotoprm]

Excellent! Did you win the Lottery? You have many thousands of Pounds, worth of gear. Lovely! Thanks for this. PS: At 22.15, why did you "Mask", the info window? One thing, and a bit of a bonus, because the MSC, has a tripod mount, you can now, move the Camera, as opposed to the Lens, to make your Panorama. This, as you may appreciate, stops the slight change of angle, you get when moving the Lens, in relation to the subject. Great tip, on choosing the Aperture.

[@uploadchannel3779]

Excellent video. Thank you. At minute mark 21:54 approx the audio quality improves markedly. May I ask what your audio recording system is? Thx.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for the nice feedback. I use often a cheap and simple Rode mic: www.rode.com/microphones/smartlav

[@henkbogers8366]

Hihi i am an Nikon hobby photographer, do you know if there is a Laowa msc for Nikon with wich you can use Nikon lenses? So from Nikon (for zmount) to Nikon. I could use my lenses. Prime and zoom! Thanks for the video!!

[@mathphotographer]

Hi Henk - I honestly do not know, maybe worthwhile to send Laowa a quick mail and asking? Maybe they know a solution.

[@frankfeng2701]

Can you make the aperture adjustment with just a Sony Camera?

[@billzidis2656]

That's great video, the Laowa MSC also shifts diagonal, then you have almost all pictures. I use it all the time since I bought it with my Sigmas

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks. I think the MSC is a super affordable solution and fully delivers. Aligned with your experience.

[@NikCan66]

After this virus I would like to visit Zurich and Switzerland again. Nice if you could organise if possible a tour of sites that maybe a group or individuals that subscribe to your KZbin channel could meet up in Switzerland to undertake. Nice to view from a locked down Dublin,Ireland.

[@icogicog8287]

Thank you. Very cool and instructive. I am using the GFX system with a Canon 24mm T/S lens. As I look around I don’t see a shiftable converter for the GFX system. Are yo aware of any?

[@mathphotographer]

No but you can operate with approriate adapters shift lenses on the Fuji, should make a video for that topic.

[@NikCan66]

brilliant video as usual

[@petermsull]

As a sometimes large format photographer, it is *not* a "shift" lens unless I can correct for convergence or change my plane of focus away from parallel to the film frame. Up, down, side to side I find next to useless. Just my experience and opinion.

[@frankluo230]

We call focal plane change tilt function in 135 world. Shift means parallel movement

[@Joamonica]

It's a SHIFT-adapter, not a TILT-SHIFT adapter. Therefore it's still not a shift lens, because you need a lens in front of it.

[@ffarag]

This is the Canon Patented shift mechanism, which was introduced decades ago, and yes i can stich 9 images on my GFX 100 or the 50R with the use of the TS17 + 24mm Canon." with the help of Rogeti TSE adapter offcourse

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for the hint and comment.

[@manuelmartini9383]

Wie wirkt sich denn die Optik im Adapter aus? Die TS-Es sind ja eigentlich fast verzeichnungsfrei. Aber wenn man z.B. das 24mm TS-E mit dem 2x Konverter von Canon nutzt, kommt ja doch ein wenig Verzeichnung dazu. Oder wenn man das Objektiv mit einem optischen Adapter z.B. auf Fuji X adaptieren würde. Wie ist das beim Laowa?

[@mathphotographer]

Actually, it is ok. Und am Ende kann man in post sehr viel korrigieren.

[@manuelmartini9383]

@@mathphotographer klar, das geht. Aber wird das nicht mühsam, je mehr Aufnahmen man zusammensetzen möchte?

[@andyvan5692]

for digital photographers there IS another option, called the CAMBO ACTIS, a view camera, SMALL form factor, which allows Fuji-GFX, Leica SL, Cannon and Nikon cameras to get this rise/fall & shift in one shot; and to use LF and MF glass in front, if you desire.

[@naduncan100]

Hi ! I know that this is 'low tech' but I can do all of this on my Linhof 4x5 !

[@naduncan100]

Sorry, but P.C. stands for Perspective Control

[@brunomartelli8163]

Hallo, Deinen Screen Protector für die Sony habe ich noch nicht gesehen. Er ist so schön matt und macht das Display besser ablesbar. Gibt es dafür eine Bezeichnung oder Quelle ?

[@mathphotographer]

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[@GodfreyMann]

@@mathphotographer thanks! I’ve just ordered mine as I can’t stand the glare and fingerprints with my current protector.

[@christopherhowell3209]

One might as well use a multi pano head...a lot cheaper !

[@stephensteliou4128]

even with your suggestion one can not take 3x3 photos and any way a t-s lens is cheaper than the adaptor your recomenting.

[@DEI_TERRA]

SUPER UBER

[@lmanna]

Nice technical video but At 300 dpi that's a 1.4x0.8 m print ! Why not using 4x5 film view camera which gives you all the corrections you'd need very cheaply. Very rarely we need prints that size. Drum scanning the film will cost way less than a Canon TS-E. Also the technique works only in landscapes or barely moving objects. A 4x5 view camera let's you capture a moment. Thanks for the efforts though.

[@josephasghar]

What nonsense. You can rotate these lenses at regular clicks.

[@EvanWisheropp]

Still won’t cover as much of the image circle as 3x3

[@Joamonica]

I think, showing one tilt-shift lens would have been enough. It's a bit (or two) bragging and not helpful to understand the purpose of the Laowa adapter. Rather lengthy video, you lost me at half the time. The people who know what shifting a lens does got redundant information. The people who don't know, got no explanation.

[@geoffhoward2171]

How to talk about nothing, he could have said all this in a 5-10 minute video.

[@alpinewonders]

if you come looking for an answer to a specific question in your mind, I can imagine this long video to be a bit frustrating. But I think your comment is a bit harsh. I enjoyed this. He`s clearly very bright. And you`ll find it difficult to find a native English speaker who knows what "value proposition" is in German

[@geoffhoward2171]

@@alpinewonders Having experience of using one of these "Magic Shift Adapters" about £35 on ebay when I purchased mine, nothing magic at all.

[@alpinewonders]

@@geoffhoward2171 now you`ve gone off topic. Laowa named this "magic", not the maker of the video