Magic: The Gathering Versus Pokémon Trading Card Game! | Untitled MTG Podcast #23 (feat. Leonhart)

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[@giantmonsteraftermath6694]

Blastoise is my favorite Pokémon. Started with Pokémon Blue as a kid and have always loved the turtle tank.

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Congrats, you have been selected at random! Please send an email to tolariancommunitycollege at gmail so I can get you that pack!

[@giantmonsteraftermath6694]

@@TolarianCommunityCollege Thanx prof!!

[@jeremiahrodriguez9364]

same!

[@WoodenSwordFighter]

Congrats, Blastoise is the best.

[@Camber126]

cannons.

[@Leonhart]

Thanks again for having me on! Brian, you are an amazing creator and even better person!

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

You're the best! It was such an honor to chat with you!

[@kurtisohlhausen1538]

You both are awesome. Magic and Pokemon have such great communities. And I see how much care and just joy people are to one another when looking through binders or boosters. You guys are leaders of both communities thank you for letting us enjoy these cards you guys show off all the time.

[@TehEeveeGeneral]

We luv you Leonhart 🤩

[@kennethmoore737]

@@TolarianCommunityCollege This is wholesome, i love this video great conversation, great content keep it up. P.S. Nice to meet you Leonhart.

[@luisdayvid]

Wish you had on an actual TCG player like Azul GG or Andrew Mahone.

[@DaveMassee]

"Every Pokemon is somebody's favorite" That is so true. I get annoyed when people throw shade when someone says their favorite is some legendary or pseudo-legendary, but everyone has their favorite and they are all equally legitimate. Dragonite is my all-time favorite, but Dewgong has a special place in my heart. Thanks for all the great content Prof.

[@kyleellis9177]

This question needs be clarified when asked. Competitive battlers think you only like a mom for being broken, some fans think Mythics being normal game fav's isn't fair. The question should be who is fav pokemon based on Looks alone/combat/Event exclusive Mythics included. For me, Hitmonlee is my favorite mon. But battlewise it's clefable. IF I'm including Mythics, Celebi is my favorite but it always needs to be said with an asterisk (so I'm not excluding people who missed tthe last event for it). Missing an event mythic and seeing it for a year in battles sucks.

[@johnroush1099]

I've always really liked Sentret and Furret and use them in my team in any game that has them.

[@Nate_McD]

Never played the card game but favorites (in no particular order) are Snorlax, the Porygon line, and all the Evees (though I’m not too big on Sylveon)

[@ultraxatu3027]

My favorite Pokémon is cramorant 😂

[@opegamin]

Arcanine and Houndoom are always my lads.

[@ReplayStation]

I used to play Pokemon competitively. The Pokemon company has a leg up on MTG in a couple of aspects. Having a code card in every physical product and the ability to trade packs and singles online without using real world money is miles ahead of Magic. Their tournament structure and pathway to world championships is much better than how WOTC does. However, the first time I played Commander, I was hooked on Magic.

[@vehicledestroyer]

Yea I've been saying this since I started playing mtg. The fact that wotc wants arena to be a huge part of the game and even the main platform for the game, they NEED to put code cards in packs and allow trading among players but wotc has dug a very deep greedy hole and for a while I thought the community wasn't with it.....but people still keep feeding into the anti consumer tactics they have employed more so in the last five years

[@samhhhhh]

Unfortunately, trading is going away with the debut of the new Pokemon client. But it's debatable whether trading was a good thing.

[@vehicledestroyer]

@@samhhhhh how is giving players the ability to trade bad in any capacity for the players? They are getting rid of it but they're also introducing a crafting system as well to replace it

[@samhhhhh]

@@vehicledestroyer People get scammed a lot, it's confusing for new players, it reduces profits for the company which in turn disincentivizes fixing problems and improving the client, not being able to get a card right away and having to go through the system for it, meta cards being unobtainably expensive, so on. I like trading for a number of reasons, and I've definitely benefited more than most from it, but it does have downsides for the playerbase as a whole. Also it's silly how much time I've spent trading rather than just playing the game, which isn't what it should be about. The crafting system is much more fair and reasonable for the average player, and will hopefully be more cost effective.

[@mindustrial]

Sadly... the Pokemon TCG is even more broken and meta decking than Magic ever been.

[@BloodiedShingle]

I've always liked these peeks across the fence. So, how are our brothers, sisters and siblings in the world of fancy cardstock doing?

[@ShredAimlessly92]

@Ramon Lopez glad to hear we’re so similar in the ways that matter most ♥️

[@Sweetluckk]

I work at a card shop and I will say there’s no game even close to pulling money better then Pokémon if you can get your hands on bulk of Pokémon cards Even cards that are just pennies you can make thousands easily , this is because Pokémon cards are trending hard right now and it’s only because of this reason Pokémon is in the lead for making money at this present time .

[@grumpyinbrooklyn6347]

My daughter was into Pokemon until she realized how bad the fake cards problem was and that she had traded so many authentic cards for fakes. She was heartbroken and never fully got over it. It was sad because I was learning to play to support her interest and found out that the game was more interesting than I expected. But she tried MtG and was hooked, commander in particular.

[@BloodiedShingle]

@@grumpyinbrooklyn6347 Ouch. Glad to hear to hear she found a new TCG to love though, it's very sweet. Thank you for sharing!

[@grumpyinbrooklyn6347]

@@BloodiedShingle Pokemon is a nice game, but at least she found a new TCG that has become a share interest.

[@Horrorcubus]

Best Pokémon card all time is the "Egyptian" Mew Promo that you got when you went to the Cinema for the first Pokémon Movie.

[@gamesandguitars354]

We still have a copy or two in our old collection binder!

[@PokemonHolo]

Ancient Mew it's named

[@flamboyantwarlock7101]

Fuck yeah, those things are cool. I inherited my older cousins' pokemon cards from way back, ended up with 4 of those. I have 3 now, cause I gave one to a friend, but they're probably the coolest looking individual cards in my collection.

[@necrocorey6408]

That thing was so cool. Me and my sister both had one, but we lost it in a house fire. I remember being shocked that Ash **died**. I don't even know how old I must have been.

[@Horrorcubus]

@@necrocorey6408 Mine got lost to my little brother... but my wife still has hers : ) luckily they are not that rare

[@TheGiraffebear]

Leonhart is super passionate about pokemon cards, but I wouldn't say that he is a great voice for any conversation on things like competitive or really any pokemon play. I look to folks like Azul and Andrew Mahone (TrickyGym) as folks I would love to see you talk to one day Prof about those sorts of things~ Amazing content as always though!

[@derphouse]

Agreed. Azul and Andrew have a wealth of competitive knowledge that extends far beyond their active years in the game because they’re so passionate about exploring older formats and how the game has changed and stayed the same throughout the years. In addition to that, Andrew has spearheaded the Gym Leader Challenge format to bridge the gap between fans of Magic’s Commander and Pokémon TCG! I highly suggest anyone who is in both the worlds of Pokémon and Magic to check that format out!

[@umiforce8152]

This is the comment I was looking for.

[@susmagician3683]

Id even add ptcg radio, an amazing person for both the collectible and trading card game of pokemon. Hell, even a newer tcg youtuber like frosted karibou would be a better choice as she also knows boths sides of the tcg. Now this isn't to bash on Leonheart, he is an amazing person and if probably the best person you can pick when it comes to collecting but i would argue that for the actual game, he would certainly not be the best choice to put it bluntly.

[@billable1861]

@@derphousewhat is the gym leader challenge?

[@thirdwavefinance8154]

So Pokemon Co. reprints one of the most sought after Charizard cards and the old version still commands a much higher price. This is also done in the comic book industry. Would have liked more conversation to highlight this & the contrast with the reserved list; these reprints are done in a TCG that is even more focused on collectors! Even more evidence that the reserved list is an obsolete relic based on superstition.

[@funnymcfunfuns1455]

I don't want mtg to be like Pokemon. The reserved list keeps insanely op cards out of reach of the average player. The last thing I want is to be playing against Black Lotus, Ancestral Recall, and Moxen on a regular basis. And btw if wotc ever reprints the duals it will be in a secret lair that will probably end up costing more than the revised versions.

[@thirdwavefinance8154]

@@funnymcfunfuns1455 Power nine cards are already banned in most formats. Reprinting wouldn’t change this.

[@ChrisBcards]

@@funnymcfunfuns1455 wow man you called it magic 30th for $1000, this aged like wine

[@st00ben]

I feel like a good counterpoint to this episode's guest would be an actual competitive player, like TrickyGym or AzulGG as a guest.

[@Ballsackeruuuuuu]

Exactly I was wondering why he invited a collector instead of an actual player

[@cyranodebergarac2681]

Seriously. This is not exactly a fair comparison.

[@flarkinater1406]

As a casual player of both, Magic is a mechanically superior game. But the Pokemon TCG Online game is MILES better than Magic Arena, in almost every way

[@enzossauroYT]

Its not miles better than mtgo though. Maybe a few meters better

[@vehicledestroyer]

@@enzossauroYT nah the fact that players can trade among themselves and that pkmn has pack codes in their product makes them for sure way ahead of mtg as far as digital platforms go

[@enzossauroYT]

@@vehicledestroyer yeah, magic doesn't have pack codes, but are you familiar with magic online? Players CAN trade amongst themselves, and pretty much every other feature is in mtgo as well, its a spetacular platform when considered ((recent wizards standards))

[@vehicledestroyer]

@@enzossauroYT I'm aware of mtgo and Im also aware it has one of the worst clients ever. UI is awful, clunky, and crowded. It is very dated but otherwise would be an ideal digital platform for the game if it were more accessible. They did recently (like a couple days ago I believe) say that mtgo was getting a new dev and hopefully that will bring it up to speed as far as functionality.

[@FiboSai]

@@enzossauroYT MTGO is good if you are looking for the authentic magic experience online. But calling it a good platform is a far shot, it still looks like a programm from the early 2000s and is riddled with bugs. And honestly, unless you have an active friend group on MTGO, you'll most likely trade with bots by big stores, who basically control the market.

[@ayden1250]

Super interesting, love hearing discussions across the TCGs

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kumbertjoehl-lee8898]

Wizard knows exactly what they are doing when shortprinting stuff.

[@kamikazze6768]

Pokemon, MTG, Yugi, FnB, digimon etc... I'm just grateful that there are many choices and communities for people to get into.

[@Draco9909]

FnB?

[@DroppedMyMarbles]

@@Draco9909 flesh and blood

[@derphouse]

To correct Leon at about 12:06, Keiji Kinebuchi was the illustrator of the original energies. You can look at older prints to confirm this. They stopped crediting him in the Expedition era. He also did the illustration that we still see on the back of every North American Pokémon card since the beginning and lots of the earliest 3D Pokémon illustrations. Arita confirmed in a KZbin livestream that Kinebuchi has been deceased for some time. May he Rest In Peace and his contributions not be forgotten. ❤️

[@dexagos7688]

Anecdotal story relevant to 15:30 - When I was grade-school age, my aunt pushed hard to get us to stop playing Pokemon at home and at school. My mother was actually the one that calmed her down (she played DnD at school in the 80's and faced quite a bit of scrutiny for it). I think this event made it easier to play MtG later on in life.

[@GyaradosFreak]

My sister has paranoid schizophrenia so NAMI is close to my heart!! I was a heroin addict for almost 9 yrs..because of the nostalgic tcgs Pokemon, Yugioh and MTG, I started watching opening videos of those games and it changed my way of thinking! I began spending monies i had on booster packs instead of on the street..got an awesome job, continued to firmly stay sober, started my own YT channel and have had some AMAZING happenings in videos on it! I now have 5 1/2 years clean and a Very cool and extravagant collection!!💚

[@neo-alpha8864]

Love how wholesome this conversation was. As a teacher myself in Norway, I have nothing but good things to say about how the Pokemon cards have bridged the gap between several students of all kinds who normally would never even have talked or played with each other. Sure, there is the occasional disagreement or conflict over a trade but that's where we as adults step in to guide them through the process to find common ground, just like any kind of after-school activity. Keep up the good work with these "crossover videos" and may I suggest covering Dragonball, Vanguard or Digimon next?

[@kurtreznor]

This is a great episode for me. I've played MTG since revised, my 7 year old son recently got into Pokemon. He and I got a couple decks and learned to play. He has gotten some more cards, but has now admitted that he is much more interested in collecting the cards he likes rather than in playing the game. Which is a little sad, because I am hoping to teach him magic (obviously), but he still loves plenty of other games; chess, ticket to ride junior, karuba, blokus...so, we will get there :)

[@RossCampoli]

I’m a Magic guy, but Leonhart’s story of getting his Charizard graded and it getting lost in the mail came across my radar. Very interesting set of videos he has regarding how the process went and how he handled it. Great video, Prof! 👍

[@Dayyyjoey26]

I think the professor doesn't quite understand that the difference in Charizard's is like Liliana of the Veil vs. Lilliana Dreadhorde General, and not like Jace, The Mind Sculptor (WWK) vs Jace, The Mind Sculptor (A25) . "Reprinting" cards doesn't usually happen in Pokémon, there's just new cards with the same Pokémon or creature if you will

[@tymandude1510]

Reprints in Pokémon usually only happens with Pokémon when a very popular competitive card gets too expensive. The most recent one to come to mind for me is Zacian V from Sword and Shield which was like $30 card before reprints.

[@TheHUmarWhitill]

I love these crossover episodes. It is always cool getting to hear about how the other TCG's work and treat their content creators

[@ajones0916]

When discussing vintage Pokemon cards it's important to understand that they are nonviable as gamepieces being completely outclassed by modern cards. This is unlike MtG where we want reprints of classic cards because they are often still VERY GOOD which is not the case in Pokemon (or Yugioh outside of outliers like Pot of Greed).

[@Tvboy777]

$8,000 Shivan Dragon says hi. Nostalgia value for now unplayable cards exists in any 20+ year old ccg that was successful enough to still be around.

[@yaginku]

There are some broken vintage Pokemon cards, you could argue that Base Set was way more broken than current Standard, but that was solved with rule changes/new types of cards. Even though current Standard is probably the most broken and un-fun format this game has ever seen.

[@ajones0916]

@@yaginku I guess I forgot about Bill and Computer Search lol. Honestly it's been a while since I've played Pokemon so I'm talking out of my ass a bit. I just remember playing again for the first time in years and seeing you didn't even need to evolve Pokemon now and they have 2-3x the hp and attack power they used to. Shivan Dragon -> Goldspan Dragon is some serious power creep but Pokemon felt on another level to me.

[@mh42069]

@@yaginku OTOH if you like MTG Vintage-like gameplay and don't have a Vintage group or the $ to spend on Vintage cards the Expanded format is a good substitute. I like how fast and combo-y you can get with decks in that format, and there's viable decks for other play styles as well.

[@heromedley]

doesnt help that most of the playerbase play standard instead of the expanded format which wouldve made the old cards very relevant

[@matthewbooth6621]

Ever since I saw Sableye's malicious grin in Pokemon Coliseum I can't stay away.

[@Singe0255]

This brings back the feels. I was a Master Professor during the WotC era of Pokemon and helped staff the 2002 World Tournament in Seattle. What a blast to get my base set Charizard signed by Arita, and help over a thousand kids enjoy a great weekend. After the license went back to Nintendo, I decided to get out of the game to focus on Magic. I had a local judge that wanted to continue in my stead, so I gave him my whole collection of Pokemon (including judge promos, tournament kits, and everything you can imagine a top-end collector would have - All Neo4 Shiny pokemon, promos of all manner, and nearly complete sets from Base through Legendary). All except my Gengars. I had to keep my Gengars. For the love of the game, I let a small fortune in cards go to a good home where it would support a thriving community for years to come. Please do the same with your resources if you are able. Charity donations for facilities like NAMI go a long way to supporting those we love and help to create a better world for gaming.

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Be sure to also check out Magic: The Gathering Versus Yu-Gi-Oh! (feat. Team APS) here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHbEmJ54i9OAqpo

[@M3WT-va]

I'd love to see Prof have a conversation with Cimo, or even MBT (especially since he's played both games) and get their perspectives on both games and how they play especially in a competitive sense.

[@CopiumCopi]

@@M3WT-va this

[@kenerickelijalim5268]

Please do another one with comparing MTG's Commander to Pokemon's Gym Leader Challenge

[@ericleiva]

Please also consider "Cardfight!! Vanguard" for this series!!!

[@ericleiva]

@@M3WT-va Cimo clearly watches the Prof, since several times he used some of his phrases, like "don't buy x buy this singles instead" or "support your LGS"

[@OG24com]

I watched until the end and... wasn't expecting the opportunity. Never underestimate creators, I've spent thousands thanks to them and can also say I bought many MTG products thanks to the Professor here. This month I bought my first Pokémon packs and I just subscribed to Leonhart :)

[@bransonS]

Geez, seeing that card art brings back some memories. I had a holo-poliwrath when I was little, and got water on it when I was 5 years old, and then the layers of the card all peeled apart. Strange how just an image can bring back "lost memories" like that

[@SummaJamz]

The mechanics and flavor of magic captured my heart, but boy do I wish they would learn something from the competition. Pokemon TCG has fewer releases but higher quality products, a healthy reprint policy to promote paper play, and a functioning digital client that respects its community. Please, Wizards...

[@bryanflores7838]

I agree with the reprints part everything else they’re about the same too me

[@yaginku]

...Pokemon cards are almost never reprinted, save for a few Trainers? And the new TCG client is quite fugly, even though I'll take it over Arena, because it's actually integrated. Pokemon does a lot of things right, but it's also completely backwards in terms of organization, with the Japanese side being the "primary" consideration and the worldwide releases trying to somehow fit in.

[@mauriciovillegas7285]

Now that my children are a little bigger, they were recently invited to a Pokémon-themed party for a 6-year-old which surprised me, the birthday boy got some booster packs. I'm glad to see the Pokémon TCG alive and well.

[@dominict.8720]

I used to play the pokemon TCG when I was in middle school, and I have a lot of good memories of my friends getting me into it, and me teaching my friends and cousins how to play. My favorite parts of the game were just getting some oddball packs, which in my time of playing were mid to late Black and White stuff, and just having battles with our best cards, no energy required, to see who had the strongest pokemon. It was a good time

[@Garrujak]

As a long time MTG player who this year decided to return to Pokémon, it's delightful to see the communities starting to enjoy sharing space with one another! It's long since been said that Yugioh and Magic don't coexist well, but it's still delightful to know that someone can have a deck for every game and have amazing people to play with all around the world no matter what!

[@kyleellis9177]

It's more a highschool level thing. Kids only have so much money and if some kids show up with a different card game, you may lose players. Everyone in the school basically needs to play the same game, or you have no pool of players. When it became magic/yugioh, it was about choosing the game more played at your school.

[@caueassmann3801]

Daaaaamn finally... i dont play pokemon anymore but i love this guy's energy

[@chasealexander88]

Interesting conversation. Pokemon TCG, as a game, does have the stigma of collectors, being a huge chunk of the fanbase, that only want to open the cards and sell them later for profit, rather than play the cards and just "own" them. To be fair, Pokemon was so influential to millennials and the cash grab aspect or the simple "Have your cake" take on the collector's end has a huge thorn in the actual game's influence, especially when seen by other TCG audiences.

[@epicness877]

No way, you guys are two of my favorite content creators, just so full of life, personality, and care for the community. Its like the meeting of two icons for me :)

[@PrestonDLuffy]

Poliwrath is such an underrated pokemon... Fun fact in the Pokemon Special/Adventures manga, the protagonist, Red's first pokemon is NOT the Pikachu or even Bulbasaur/Venusaur on his team, but Poliwhirl, who would evolve into Poliwrath and become one of his most trusted partners.

[@trumantucker4905]

Man, it's been so long since I've seen Leonhart, but I can remember him giving away a ton to charity and I'm glad he's still doing it.

[@Number1NameonReapersWishList]

tcg is a nostalgia thing. and there are studies which found that a majority feel attracted to nostalgic things during covid.

[@andybrown2611]

Leonhart should be a politician. He is really good about not directly answering questions.

[@romanlegin3762]

It is pretty cool to see that you are the biggest MTG channel, but not that just that, more of a TCG channel in general, making videos about different games and products. Keep it up :D

[@ropesnake]

Loved this whole chat! Wasn't familiar with Leonhart but will definitely check his stuff out. Y'all didn't talk about the competitive side of the game so much in this podcast, but I'd like to remind everyone that the game itself is surprisingly deep and strategic and worth checking out for those fellow competitively-minded players out there. Plus the online client is super accessible and quite fairly monetized, for any would-be MTGA ship jumpers.

[@SBsam]

To me, mtg has a certain charm that other card games tend to lack. It's not just the lore, the art or the formats. It's the fact that it can be played by pretty much everyone, on many different levels of difficulty and with so many different types of cards and mechanics that almost everybody can find something that they enjoy.

[@GladiusM]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. And even though I’m usually a negative person towards Magic and Wizards, I genuinely love the game and I’m super happy that I have opportunities to play it. And to someone else, it may be the same feeling for a different game, but the way you can make your deck feel like YOUR deck in Magic is such a specialty that I feel like other card games lack. Not to mention there’s multiple levels of competition and whether you’re strictly a casual commander player or a legacy tournament grinder it doesn’t matter. You have a place in the Magic community, and I’m really grateful for that :)

[@Jaebird88]

Between Yugioh and Magic, my high school was wishy-washy about TCGs. The usual excuse was they assumed we were gambling. When money ever came into the equation was when we bought and sold cards among ourselves.

[@Opaninesse]

Muk is also my favorite Pokemon. I always remember in the anime how he wanted to hug everyone, but nobody ever wanted to hug him.

[@kyleellis9177]

I always thought he should have been brocks and everytime brock hits on a girl, muk emerges and hugs him, scaring girl away.

[@Akari-br7ci]

When I was a kid pretty much everyone in school had a bunch of random pokemon cards, but no one actually knew how to play the game, this was before we could just look it up online. So it was definitely more of a collectable for us back then. We did still play with them, but because we didn't know the rules we just made them up on the spot. Which of course led to horribly unbalanced games, but no one could call you out on your bs rules cause no one knew what the actual rules were. No joke, we didn't even know what energy was for, we just attacked for free. So energy cards were strictly collectables.

[@CartoonGraveyard]

I've been playing the Pokemon TCG on and off since it started and I just last year got into magic. I'm having a blast playing both and it's great to see some positivity from both communities!

[@JoelRiter]

I really appreciate seeing the different TCG communities coming together to discuss various things. I love TCGs and tabletop gaming, I've played many TCGs and each has it's pros and cons. Despite some obvious flaws, I love the Pokemon TCG the most (I'm a control player). I'm actually taking my daughter to her first tournament in the Spring.

[@svenszilagyi9695]

''I'm a big fan of Rattata'', Youngster Joey and the Professor.

[@feltzdog]

Honestly being a fan of both Pokemon TCG and MTG having more of these cross over style podcasts would be amazing. Getting perspectives of the industry as a whole is always good insight.

[@JustforKikX]

Damn, what a day. Who'd have ever guessed we'd get Leonhart and Prof together? Although Leonhart DID just to a stream with Matt (it's been a weird month lol). Love both these guys, great to see our two worlds come together.

[@Occatuul]

Two of the best voices in cards together at last! And they both happen to be incredibly chill, warm, and friendly people. Can't beat this duo.

[@chrishogan9143]

I exist comfortably in the middle of the four-way venn diagram of MTG players, PTCG players, Leonhart fans, and Prof fans. 10/10 video, loved the discussion.

[@icefalcon2243]

I have played both games extensively for many many years and I have realized the game of MTG is much deeper in my opinion. That alone keeps me coming back to it more often than PKM

[@jackmaibach8316]

As someone who plays both the pokemon and magic tcg daily, it is wonderful to have amazing people like you in the community to help us both be more thoughtful about the cards we care about and how we care for the cards!

[@darrenblackwell9798]

As one who has gotten back into Pokémon collecting this past year and has played magic for many years, it is so nice to see two of my favorite creators collaborating! Thank you both for what you do for the communities!! It is very interesting to see the differences in what makes cards have value. I do appreciate Pokémon for having basic versions of cards at reasonable prices (V, VMax, etc..) then having the “fancy” versions that can be more for the collectors. I think magic has gone a bit too far with things like the collector’s boosters leading to a dilution of the “fancy” versions of cards, in some cases making them cost less than the standard variant.

[@TheMaverickGirlGaming]

Ever since discovering him about a year and a half ago, Leonhart's been regular viewing for me. I don't even really play the game all that much anymore, but his energy makes it so much fun to watch and get a little bit of nostalgia along the way. Really enjoyed this discussion and glad to see you two come together for a video!

[@AarhgYouTube]

Rad pull, I loved Poliwrath back in the day! I still keep my old Pokémon binder around, and I always get a big hit of nostalgia when I go though it.

[@reverendphillsschoolofmaji383]

My grandchildren are why I am learning about Pokemon.

[@ericdysvik2593]

I’m not one to watch podcasts very often if at all but seeing the thumbnail for Prof and Leonhart I had to watch, huge fan of both Magic and Pokémon and play both when I can, please make more videos maybe have a pack battle with both opening a pack of each for NAMI

[@ddurst1]

My favorite Pokémon is Skarmory. When I began playing Pokémon again, I never realized how cool it looked. Also its just a complete tank. Love Skarmory. It's kind of cool to hear about the Pokémon tcg and how it got really big again and just hearing about the community. It sounds cool.

[@CodyEIIXXII]

As you said: Every Pokémon is someone's favorite. Mine are Larvitar and Beldum, and their evolutions.

[@kevinh1573]

I’m a high school math teacher that still plays Pokémon and magic! Playing Pokémon has been the greatest way of teaching my son how to read and do math.

[@jrodeck]

I used to collect Pokemon TCG when i was younger. Leonhart is my favorite pokemon content creator to watch to feel the nostalgia.

[@Pokemonnz201]

I loved the conversation about playing TCGs in Schools. As a teacher I love when I have something incommon with a student like playing Magic or Pokemon. And I find it is great for Math. The only thing you need to make sure as a teacher is Kids don't always know the value of cards so supervise the trades to make sure the students are trading same value cards and not ripping someone off.

[@kyleellis9177]

But does a teacher have the right to stop trades and tell a kid what they want? My school had a teacher supervising the room at lunch and he was only allowed to look up prices when someone wanted to trade. Trades in the class had to be done that way, but once looked up, it was up to the kids. I knew my Foil magic cards to be worth more, but HATE foils. I made trades for cards I wanted and knew I was getting less value, so the kid didn't trade them to someone else while I was waiting to have something they wanted.

[@TheAmazingphenomenon]

Many times we see other TCGs as rivals and compete to see which is the best TCG so, to see content like this is really great. Very insightful

[@FunTimesAllNight]

I love when you talk to people into other games. I got the Pokemon starter pack and played with my brother when the game first came out. It was a little too simplistic to really hook me, but I still have cards and play every once in a while.

[@professorcardboard]

GREAT COLLABORATION!!! I just want to say you lead me towards Dragon Shield Products such as the Card Codex's and Perfect Fit Sleeves. I am not a Magic player but I still find your videos entertaining and informational. Especial about products for all TCG players can use alike. Keep up the great work.

[@TheMaskedHero]

Great episode, only thing that I think was missing was a discussion about the formats in Pokemon TCG, because it is shockingly small on formats compared to Magic. Loved the discussions.

[@PulledPurk]

When I was riding the school bus over 20 years ago, I was about 8, the busdriver took my Charizard. "NO TOYS" she said. Never saw it again

[@GyaradosFreak]

15 minutes in and two thoughts come to mind. It seems that way more modern Pokemon are being graded then really any other card game out there right now! The other is I think it would be amazing if the Pokemon company would Commission MTG artists to do the card artworks for at least one set!😃

[@V2ULTRAKill]

But those graded cards arent selling for prices that demand grading The reason is the people who get mtg and ygo cards graded for example actually learn enough about the game to know what cards are worth money even in loose near mint Whereas pokemon is flooded with pseudo investors who get 2 dollar cards graded not knowing what theyre worth

[@GyaradosFreak]

@@V2ULTRAKill excellent point

[@ilikeapples1]

My favourite pokemon of all time is Umbreon. I'm pretty sure the reason is because when I was a kid and dark types were first introduced Umbreon was the first dark type card I got and I LOVED the artwork on it, so it always had a special place in my heart.

[@andrewpayseur]

I remember pulling a foil Charizard from a set in either '99 or 2000. It wasn't the set with the first edition stamp or anything, but my little 6th grade brain almost melted from the excitement to even dare to bring it to school to show my friends. I say "dare," because our teachers were notorious for confiscating them and holding on to them until Friday afternoon of that week.

[@kyleellis9177]

Their is a reason no TCG's have he gambling mechanic built in anymore. the Prizes in game are the reason most schools banned it.

[@felixgijon8621]

This is some amazing content. Not sure why, but I've been looking into TCG. I am currently playing Runeterra and I am looking into Magic, PKMN and Yu Gi Oh. But I found myself listening / watching videos covering the business and meta history. TCG is a crazy and interesting world to learn about.

[@ShoutButterfly]

I love these versus videos with different TCGs! Love the discussion with card games I know and love to learn about new ones. Maybe next time go for Digimon Card Game? :D

[@SRose91]

I remember pulling a foil Hitmonchan from one of the first base set packs I got as a kid back in 1999. At the time I had no idea it was one of the strongest cards in the set but I still have it to this day.

[@ernestmatthews9867]

The nostalgia of the old style of cards is great to see. Started opening pack every now and again bc of my younger siblings

[@timothycurrence8157]

This interview is so good! Two of the best content masters mashed up!

[@Ballsackeruuuuuu]

The problem I have with this video is that he invited a collector instead of a competitive player like azulgg

[@Resonicity]

It would be great to see companies continue to develop programs with the content creator community in mind in order to recognize just how much is contributed to the promotion and proliferation of their products!

[@johnvito2559]

I’m mainly a magic player now however I grew up jamming Pokémon when I was younger, I have no idea where all my old cards went but I swear I had a hollo pollywrath that looked just like that one ! Loved the vid prof! Keep up the good work!

[@stfinalwrath]

That was a pretty good conversation. It's been interesting seeing pokemon become more of a collectible than a game these last couple of years. The very first pack of pokemon I opened was the original base set, with a Blastoise on the package. Pulled a first edition Zapdos from that pack. Unfortunately got destroyed when my friends buddy got my cards covered in sweat from his hands and it stuck the foil of the Zapdos to the back of another card. That loss had me all kinds of upset. It was a awesome card to look at, even if I didn't know how to play the game back then.

[@thomasanderson5312]

Great video! I started playing MTG recently and have a friend super into Pokemon. He's now playing MTG and I'm playing Pokemon which has brought joy to both of us.

[@crazyconan28]

Thank you to you both! I used to be a Pokemon TCG collector as a kid up to Gen 4, and while I'm still a fan of the franchise I lost interest in collecting the cards. Though the #1 thing I love about the TCG for Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and MTG is the incredible card artwork! I'm a casual MTG player from teenager to adulthood, and used to be a casual Yu-Gi-Oh player and Pokemon collector of the TCGs when I was a kid from up to 5ds and Diamond and Pearl respectively.

[@andresicuro]

Back in the day (Jungle and Fossil) I used to collect and play with my brothers veeeery casually. Like, we only got precons, never got any boosters or singles. Then one day I asked my mom to buy me a copy of Poliwrath because I had its pre evolutions and it was my favorite Pokemon back then, ended up building a deck with it, probably water/psychic. Then one day I brought my deck to cathecism school to show the other kids, they passed it around hand in hand and by the end of the class I realized my Poliwrath was missing

[@goldengriffon]

Although there may eventually have been many reasons, the school bans of Pokémon were originally not about the game. It was a matter of the kids being so obsessed it was disruptive. Cards (and later, game cartridges) would be stolen or fought over, or the kids would just be so hyper-focused on Pokémon they were oblivious to participating in school or interacting with anyone.

[@darcytrafalgar3340]

That pack opening reminded me of opening a Zapdos in a Fossil pack in my Nan's car when I was 6 years old or so. I haven't thought about that moment so clearly in ages!

[@Danielyoshie]

This was such a fun video. I watch both channels, always remember going to the store with my father every weekend to buy a pack. Had most of the base set 1st ed minus the big 3, but it got lost when I went to college years ago. Sad about that but what can you do. Either way love seeing vids like this to bring back old nostalgic feelings 😀

[@jonathanneel4266]

This was a great talk. As someone who plays magic now but grew up with Pokemon, I liked seeing the perspective of a current Pokemon TCG fan. And I loved watching the pack opening! I had a ton of Pokemon cards from those original wotc sets growing up that sadly all burned up in the fires in California last year, and it was very nostalgic for me to see some of those base set cards opened up again.

[@chrish8124]

I love that you do videos like these. It's so important to be represent your game in the larger community and reach out to the players of other games.

[@BodysmasherMTG]

Honestly I'm glad that I see these videos in my subscriptions, they always enlighten me into the world outside of just MTG and make me remember playing pokemon, yugioh and other tcgs.

[@adamattwood5097]

It’s a collectible because you “Gotta catch ‘m’ all.”

[@crashfanttv8531]

I really feel like I need to correct Leonhart on his comments about Pokemon cards being back in stock. He is right that it’s improving, but it’s also very location based. I see people on social media showing off restocks at their shops in more rural parts of the US, but many like me also still struggle in more populated city locations. For many of us, it still very much is a game of luck or *shudders at the thought* stalking vendors to be there at restocks or often than not you won’t find anything Pokemon related.

[@greenturtle5616]

Charizard was reprinted NOT in Supreme Victors!!! Charizard was reprinted and made in a more modern twist in Stormfront!!! Hey! I watch Leonhart videos! I loved it when Leonhart collaborated with RealBrakingNate! What an awesome mini series! Hope they do it again sometime!

[@codyarrington7693]

And they said Spiderman was the craziest crossover this year. Ha! But in all honesty, seeing two of my favorite content creators coming together to talk about their respective card games they're passionate about, was amazing. Need more videos with you two in the future!

[@TheDasco]

Grew up with Pokémon in the 90's so a bit of nostalgia when you opened the base 2 pack. Always kick myself for getting rid of my collection back in middle school.

[@liadorkun]

"Every Pokémon is somebody's favorite" - I love that quote! Mine is Infernape!

[@PSNMyfoot]

You are not alone then :)

[@davidkruszka8426]

When he brought up the Rocket Squirtle, I got nostalgic because I know exactly what that card looks like and still have it.

[@henrytang2453]

One thing I really love about the pokemon TCG is how much draw power is available in the game. Playing expanded with insane draw engines that let you cycle through 20 cards in a turn is so fun. It gets a bit boring after a while, but its a super fun part of the game.

[@erickennyproductions1050]

For me, I collect the card's, but I do on occasion play the pokemon tcg in the unlimited format, with my nephews, where I'll loan them one of my pre-made decks, as we play pretty casually, even though I have some of the more powerful battle decks for my nephews to use against my homebrew unlimited format decks.

[@erickennyproductions1050]

But I've been collecting pokemon longer than I have been collecting mtg.

[@DelusionSpiral]

Its interesting to hear a discussion between people from different trading card communities.

[@LogoMotive11]

A great episode for bridging the gap between two very popular games

[@rudixy7808]

Two of the most wholesome trading card influencers in one video talking about Pokémon and magic. Thanks for the insightful interview/podcast. Also magnemite=best Pokémon

[@sameash3153]

>Magnemite=best based!!!!! my magnet boi will always be my favorite