LiDAR Scanning a Fully Furnished Apartment on an iPhone 12 Pro (in Under 7 Minutes)

[@magicplan]

What do you think about the accuracy you can achieve with the new LiDAR sensor? Try it free here bit.ly/3nPvZCo

[@dshubad]

3% это очень неточно. Обычная рулетка дает 1мм на метр, что в 30 раз точнее

[@pabloduncan8371]

Looks pretty good. I guess it will depend on many factors, but in this care is was pretty good.

[@migojolo2933]

Does it work offline?

[@martexl]

Could you add an option to 'scan using ceiling corners' instead of floor corners because in my rooms I can see all the ceiling corners no problem, but on the floor 80% are hidden behind something or i have to climb over something. I think ceiling scanning would be a lot more accurate and a lot easier. I've only just started using this app so it might already be an option.

[@iloveipad1]

That's an amazing idea 👏

[@zafura]

Great great idea! To be also able to scan those corners would make life a lot easier sometimes!

[@tinkerman1790]

Awesome idea!!! 👍🏻

[@pabloduncan8371]

Great ide.a O gope they read it. We should start placing a similar comment in all the videos we see from them.

[@stepfury]

Yes, hope the developers see this.

[@tilted4fun805]

As an architect I’ve been curious as to how the new LiDAR sensor in the iPhone 12 would function for surveys. Seems promising

[@cjanevinzx7396]

Lidar is available only in the pro version

[@faramarzsarmadi2398]

It's not still accurate enough to replace surveying instruments even combining with laser measurement devices. Because of inability to measuring angles. But it's efficient for application of interrior design.

[@matiKRK]

@@cjanevinzx7396 Like that small difference in price makes a difference for geeks and professionals.

[@spawnandbatman6975]

@@cjanevinzx7396 the pro version phone?

[@userrotkiv]

@@spawnandbatman6975 Yes

[@kevinjohnson5020]

Thanks for this. I wanted to see how well it works around obstacles. This is exactly what I wanted to see.

[@Los6317]

Still a “new” tech but it’s impressive how accurate it is

[@jameschoi6098]

So far I was blown away how fast and relatively accurate this was using the Lidar on iPhone 12 Pro max.

[@quotelaba]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmapaYKdbNOHrsU 12 pro and 12 pro Max

[@MarkusAT]

My home has anything but straight angles.. Connecting rooms in the Magicplan was literal hell because every time it tried to straighten the walls for me or make other changes just because

[@martinreiser1]

It's amazing to see how magicplan evolves! I really love the video. Great job Bernd!!!

[@WelcomeToFruityTube]

I see the toaster my years of subscriptions paid for. Can magic plan do curved walls yet? That should be priority number 1!

[@dennywells1640]

Yeah - focusing on useful stuff like this rather than gimmicks like badly guessing at doors and windows would be nice.

[@davidc2072]

That's amazing. Only a few years ago I took a weekend to learn sketch up and do a floor plan. Gave up. Now I could do it in half an hour. Just hope Apple adds LIDAR to future Mini. I got it and the Max to try and just can't handle the size of the Max.

[@jimjamjon2285]

Why didn’t you get the regular pro

[@mad4beinhere00]

I gave up on Sketch Up as well, just to awkward :-(

[@rfh9560]

Most likely they will remove it sooner or later if they don’t find a use for the masses, just like 3D Touch and the Touchbar on Macbooks. I got a 13 mini, wish I had Lidar now

[@rmolero574]

Microvision BEST IN CLASS long range lidar

[@jakechurcher5837]

The fact u can get that level of detail and accuracy from a small dot on a smartphone is incredibly good considering in the past u would need specialist equipment to do the same thing and it would cost a lot more

[@Sundara229]

Specialist equipment like a folding rule and a sheet of paper? No worries, just kidding. Yeah it's impressive, especially for something we carry around in our pockets every day.

[@jakechurcher5837]

@@Sundara229 and that it can do so much more than make 3D models of objects

[@darkknightwithanidea1845]

Indeed a valuable too, paired with IP 12 Pro Max - pure genius - this is def going to be in my kit. Shame it’s a subscription plan with the APP. But the project should more than cover the cost. Time & hassle from the old school method - removed & gone. A few years ago this meant having a draftsman, Autocad, Maya & other expensive time consuming software & operator to build into the budget. Now it’s a 7 min go to , one stop, one man, great results - platform. IMPRESSIVE. Thank you.

[@98f5]

I used to use this app on android circa samsung galaxy s6. It worked fairly well but was not any competition with a real point scanner. I will have to test it on the 12 pro max and see

[@lvr47]

Hi, great video, it is possible to put the 3D model into sketchup? without reassemble the walls and all the details? thanks in advance

[@iamptm]

The answer is yes. You can export to SketchUp. How's your LIDAR journey going? Cheers

[@duxarchiteuthis]

I'm wondering if the % of error you get compared to the laser meter, has something to do with the fact that you're pointing your phone to the baseboard and probably the laser meter to the walls? Or does it matter?

[@christian-gu5oq]

Yea that’s interesting

[@Zeval31]

definitely want an answer on that, I had the same thought.

[@prashantnsk]

With my measuring tape, pencil, and notebook its much satisfying and feels professional, but this is a very promising and futuristic😀.... this will take time to grow on me...

[@ot2nie]

Great video and like Martin below said: it would be awesome to have a ceiling corner function as well! I’m still having trouble sometimes finding corners behind furniture etc. Great app btw!!

[@ChristopherHaws90]

Just gave it a try. Super impressive tech, but doesn't handle open layout rooms well. My kitchen, dining room, and family room are open concept so there are missing walls and the app constantly complains about not being able to complete the room because it is missing a wall.

[@magicplan]

Hi Christopher! Now we do have the manual scan (the one that you see in this video), but also the brand new LiDAR Auto-Scan (for this you need iOS 17 and an Apple Pro device), you find all the details here >> help.magicplan.app/auto-scan-your-floor-plan - give it a try if you didn´t already, maybe it fits your needs a bit better 🙂 Silvia

[@ChristopherHaws90]

@@magicplan Will do! Thanks for the update! :)

[@AngeloGoll]

What about walls that are not straight? Can you measure those? Or maybe a room space like a circles ?

[@keent]

you have a more problem to worry than detecting curved walls

[@PythonPlusPlus]

@@keent Why’s that? Curved walls are quite common in some places. You should expect a floor planning tool to be able to map these things.

[@m.brandon6544]

@@PythonPlusPlus can you map those things?

[@JulianMakes]

How is it on curved walls or old stone walls (not straight or vertical)? Does it rely on modern concepts of construction - like everything should be square and vertical?

[@magicplan]

Hey Julian, we actually have a workaround for curved walls: help.magicplan.app/add-curved-walls. If you try it, let us know what you think.

[@oddarneroll]

When will you support angled ceilings?

[@GustavoRaiser]

Hail the metric system.

[@filipzo]

Pretty sure you can obviously switch to the metric system, right? 🙃🙂

[@aljames7345]

Look at 3.20 where the floor line magic plan marked is riding up the wall. That can’t be right?

[@magicplan]

Hi James. What you're seeing is referred to as drift. Drift has been a known issue in ARKit for a while. During the "Tracking and Mapping" process in ARKit, the detected floor plane is shifted up and down a bit, and sometimes it makes this kind of error. Unfortunately, we can't do much about it. Without LIDAR, this makes our measurement inaccurate, but with LiDAR, since we are using sensor data, it doesn't make much difference. We understand it seems discouraging from a user perspective. Our advice would be to just go with it unless it looks completely off. We do quite a bit of normalization after the AR scan was completed. In most cases, the error will be minimal. And in general, try to have the best light conditions possible for initialization and move slower during capture.

[@aljames7345]

magicplan hi. That’s a fair reply I guess. Thank you. So with lidar, are you saying even though visually you can see apparent drift the measured walls are still correct results?

[@wilderdede]

hi I've been using MagicPlan for a couple of years . . . and still/always have a couple of issues with corners - especially in kitchen with cabinets and with deep closets. I generally just add those by hand, grrr. Looks like Lidar will solve those? It was NOT clear from this video how you shift from corner to wall detection. Could you address that? Also what happens in a small room when you can't get back far enough to capture windows or doors? Is there a workaround to doing it by hand after the fact? thanks. great product.

[@Jf-reviews]

I will give magicplan another try. Been pushing for this for so many years now. Anything to get away from drawing it out by hand then going back to the office to draw it up. It took so long to get autocad to allow Bluetooth to talk to their app. I’m not testing and waiting for them to catch up again.

[@Glebiys]

That app is just amazing!

[@SGSGSGSGSG-v5q]

It looks great but on the other hand the angle detection from the bottom measures with the baseboards so the length is distorted

[@magicplan]

Hey Sebastien, I'd recommend you give our app a try! Since this video was released, we've made major improvements to our AR capture. There'll be an updated video coming out soon.

[@applekid3956]

Apple should pay you for showing us the need for the lidar scanner in iphones👍🏻

[@n1cl4s]

That looks amazing!

[@lvr47]

does the wall detection also work on the Ipad pro 2021? because it doesnt detect walls..

[@allawallabedalla]

Very helpful video!

[@magicplan]

Thank you! 🙂We are happy to hear that you enjoyed the video

[@danieltrevijanostehle7829]

Are you using the free version of the app or and upgraded paid version?

[@Zeval31]

Hello, this looks like a very potent solution for modern interiors. How does magicplan fare with non rectangular rooms ? Round walls, non rectangular rooms, high ceiling, rafters, moulding/coving on the ceiling of older houses, all these are pretty common on our projects. Can magicplan handle that ?

[@warburgaby]

great question :) no answer from magicplan until now :(( How does Magicplan link the different rooms of an apartment together? In the video they are surveyed one at a time and then placed next to each other: but this assumes that I know exactly how the house is made, which generally DOESN'T happen in professional reality ... When I survey an apartment, I have to find out if the rooms have orthogonal sides to each other or not: does the program find out? And then: it should be the software that gives me the concatenation of the rooms, the geometry, the inclined sides, the rotations ... otherwise it's only good for small orthogonal apartments ...

[@mickspawn]

what about adding the shower, sink, toilet

[@magicplan]

Hey 🙂 Now you can do that! If you use the LiDAR Auto-Scan feature you can scan walls and openings, but also the furniture. Check it out here >> help.magicplan.app/auto-scan-your-floor-plan

[@nokedlipudinggal8276]

Very helpful. Thank you for your time!

[@CU96821]

This is just the video I have waited for and it's enough for me to give the app a try. A few additional thoughts..... how does it determine the wall thickness? How are multiple stories handled? The next video perhaps :) Thank You

[@bobdobbs7828]

I wish my ancient 5th generation IPad Pro 1tb Hobo Edition could do those cool things that new iPhone 12 does. Mine doesn't auto-detect a single thing.

[@FedericoTesta1]

This is insanely cool!

[@1man_topo]

angles between walls assumed to be always 90o ? Is there any angle detection ?

[@faramarzsarmadi2398]

Lidar measurements can't achieve precise angle measurements. Furthermore, rooms are surveyed independently that is not enough for high level applications.

[@venaanek]

Thanks for the inspiration!

[@nodelayfordays8083]

Are you saying that with out the Lidar or an iPhone 12 Pro/Max this app wouldn't be usable?

[@magicplan]

Hi George. No, magicplan will work fine on a phone without LiDAR. The only difference will be that you won’t have access to the “wall detection” feature. You’ll still be able to scan rooms. Go and download magicplan and give it a try. All feature are free to use on two projects.

[@robinmatharu3214]

Beyond Brilliant. Awesome

[@lgkarlstad]

Hi, what would be best practice getting high accuracy models - first building the model with LiDAR and then adjust the model with laser connected to magicplan which adjust measurements in the model. Would that be a possible and good workflow ?

[@peterblickle3d88]

Great Video, thx!

[@magicplan]

You are welcome!

[@skitterlad]

Build an API to link with oculus quest 2 over wifi with virtual desktop and have your software change textures of walls etc and you will have a dynamite project. You could physically wall through your home and touch objects that now look different. Easier said than done.

[@petershirley2025]

When will lidar support come to android devices?

[@petershirley2025]

Magic plan has an unreal customer support team and when I approached them about the topic they told me that while current androids have lidar they don't have the multi-plane detection (hardware) that Apple does. Therefore until androids overcome that hardware limitation the wall detection won't transfer. That being said newer androids have very good software that makes mapping through placing corner markers very effective.

[@minghengtan]

Brilliant. Thanks 🙏🏻 👍🏼👍🏼🙋🏻

[@boele0707]

enjoyed it a lot! Fantastic us of new tech on iPhone! Can think of a million ways people in contraction could theoretically use this. ...although most of them do not really care about such detailed figures as they are pretty good at estimating the amount of materials they need on a job anyway. ;-). Does it allow for showing accurate thickness of walls etc.? I can think of ways the outcome of this tool might be useful for Unify floorplans.

[@celalpolatsoy9972]

Thanks for the useful video. I would like to ask a question, is there pc version of magic plan? Because i see pc version on your pc, if i see right..

[@thomaskumlehn5107]

It seems, magicplan cannot cope with angled (under the roof) walls. Or do I miss a special setting/mode?

[@mhmergen8559]

Why I can not take the results as you did..?

[@AhsanBD]

Your channel is underrated.

[@ilive4livemusic]

So, 7 mins for the LiDAR. For comparison’s sake, how long did it take to get all the measurements with the Bosch? That would help me decide whether to trade off accuracy for speed.

[@wilko4085]

The comparison needs to be scanning once with iphone 12 vs measuring each room with bosch and drawing each room shape, adding windows and doors manually.

[@gabriellim4393]

Can the plans be exported directly to 3d modeling softwares?

[@magicplan]

Hi Gabriel. Currently you can export the model as an OBJ and go from there.

[@Garage_Distinct_Clips]

Happy I got iPhone 12 pro

[@lomike91]

Impressive. I'm dealing more with old houses and apartment, most of the time with no straight wall. How it'll perform in this situations?

[@gannong1]

Could this scale to say office building floor plates? What is the limitation size of a floor plan? Great product thanks for creating the app!

[@maurolocatelli5836]

Hi, can you use that bosch with sketchup? Thank you. Amazing video.

[@CharlotteE123]

can we change the thickness of the walls and partitions? In magicplan

[@magicplan]

Hi Charlotte, sure, you can change the thickness of the walls, you can see all the details here >> help.magicplan.app/change-exterior-and-interior-wall-thickness Moreover, you can only change the length of the partial wall but can change width/ depth/ height of a PARTITION WALL > check this video from our Community, which shows the difference between a partial wall and a partition wall community.magicplan.app/c/quick-edits-097b7a/sections/90541/lessons/300561 🙂 Silvia from magicplan

[@CharlotteE123]

Thanks 🙏🙏🙏

[@snehithreddy5575]

Well done

[@radimhanzl7412]

is this the same acuracy on the ipad pro 2020?

[@aaronpoisson]

I'm just buying my first house and need this tool for assisting in furnishing measurements along with future construction projects. I have an iPhone 7. Will this tool work with my phone?

[@NectarineSoup]

what do you do when it doesnt say 'done' when your windows and doors are in the right place??

[@magicplan]

Hi Billie! It depends if you are using a Lidar-supported device or not. You always have the option to complete the scanning process manually, just in case. Can you please send us an email at [e-mail] in order for us to check? Thank you in advance, Silvia from magicplan 🙂

[@Aimless_Red]

How does the app handle baseboards? I’m assuming they have to be added in manually…is that right?

[@magicplan]

Hi there 🙂 do you mean the vinyl (or wooden) board covering the lowest part of an interior wall? That is not gonna be scanned, unfortunately, but you can add pictures to your room in order to indicate that, for example. Would that help? - Silvia

[@danielemele3791]

Thank you

[@philliptemple4534]

You missed the most important metric! How long did it take you to do with the laser measure. Phillip.

[@magicplan]

Hi Phillip! Remeasuring with the laser tool tool around 5 minutes. The process is pretty quick and easy if you have an AR scan to start out with. If you were to start from scratch, manually drawing the rooms and then measuring, it will take you around three times as long.

[@mhmergen8559]

I have IPad Pro 14 and I could not do this like you did. I dıd not understand.

[@HonzaMachoo]

hi, great video. please how much space does this small apartment project take up on your iphone?

[@johnnyairstream5092]

Incredible. Great helpful video.Welcome to the 21st century everyone!

[@debbythomas9802]

If you download on your iPhone can you later work the plan on your iPad?

[@misteryu6819]

I don’t know why AI took me here, but it looks great :) Maybe I once used an Insta 360 to scan my house for fun. Can the two be combined so that we have a more accurate and realistic 3D model?

[@fedediaz2676]

If I have a pitch on the roof, can I also scan it for my 3d simulation of furniture?

[@sujstet]

what about curves and odd walls at angles and not usually walls

[@Giselleq0906]

Did they get rid of the wall detection function? I can only use wall detection on the app now.

[@izoyt]

which phones are supported?

[@ahmedelattar8259]

Can you export to CAD or SKetchup?

[@magicplan]

Sure! Here are the export formats we have available, including DXF file to import into a CAD software such as AutoCAD or SketchUp: help.magicplan.app/export-formats

[@MrDemondal]

Is there the ability to add wall thickness to the plans?

[@Takuplumbing]

What do you do for vaulted ceilings?

[@chilodaone]

How do you know whats the thickness of the walls? Will the software detect walls that are in an angle? (not perpendicular to another wall)

[@chrisrainville8713]

The video makes it look like it works so well but it struggled in my home. The area near my stairs on the second floor was a disaster. It didn't pick up the half wall, the stairs, and it couldn't pick up the end of the wall where my desk is. using 12 pro max. app deleted.

[@schrodinger5091]

Can I export that data into a 3d Software , like maya ,3d max or UE5? , thanks

[@ahmedelattar8259]

I need to scan an office in an all-curtained walled office building, will the glass/window detector detect the walls as "Curtain Wall" instead of solid walls?

[@salvadorebertolone]

im curious if the cosine error of the laser measuring tape is the root of the error. i have a bosch as well and its exceptionally accurate but unless you can eliminate cosine error from the user, i think i'd trust the volumetric number from the lidar more than multiple measurements from the bosch. fwiw im an industrial tooling builder and am often working to less than a 5mm on projects over 200m. for individual cells i try to stay under 1mm, using the bosch i can keep 1mm reasonably easily, validated by real industrial laser metrology equipment, ie faro vantage and similar. to be able to achieve these results required reducing cosine error to a minimum. i've built a couple tripods that i level with a machine spirit level and match their heights when near the specified distance with a rotary laser, one is rolling, the other if fixed. i then use the bosch on a rolling tripod with a plumb bob to shoot a fixed tripod that also has a plumb bob on as well.

[@trololoev]

does it work with android ToF sensors?

[@magicplan]

Hi there! The difference is that LiDAR uses pulsed lasers to build a point cloud, which is then used to construct a 3D map (or image). ToF applications create "depth maps" based on light detection, usually through a standard RGB camera. Basically, as soon as you have a supported Android device the scanning function will work too - you can check the supported devices here: developers.google.com/ar/devices

[@trololoev]

Can you test new lidar on new ipad?

[@magicplan]

Hey, sure. In that video, we showcased the old LiDAR, but if you have an iPad Pro or iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max or newer Pro devices, you can try our new LiDAR Auto-Scan as seen in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jl7ZlmuMj9asfck

[@Mchaskie]

Is this to measures distances between object to create virtual representation?

[@Donkor640]

This is really good. A bit too finicky to use on the job but I imagine you'll have all the kinks worked out in no time and I'll be buying a Bluetooth laser measurer and ditching the Matterport. In some rooms, it picks up super fast and in others I had to scan over and over and it never quite captured the shape. Also, angled ceilings gave it fits.

[@antonellabrugnera2671]

Hi! Is it possible to export the floor plan in DWG to be opened in AutoCAD?

[@magicplan]

Hi there. We offer DXF file exports that you can open in AutoCAD.

[@TotalWarriorLegends]

How scan window without lidl detection?

[@chilodaone]

Can you guys compare the accuracy of lets say iphones 12 pro max with Lidar vs Galaxy s20 ultra with time of flight snesor?

[@jonathanrose456]

Is there a pitched ceiling option yet?

[@chaosnecromancer2]

How does this software work with multi level floors homes or apartments?

[@grzegorzkapica7930]

Can I send the app to my potential customer? Like; is there a version I can use on customers’ phones?

[@magicplan]

magicplan can be used on every phone or tablet, there is a free version or 3 different types of subscriptions. You can see the compatible devices here >> help.magicplan.app/supported-devices

[@grzegorzkapica7930]

@@magicplan I have to check it out. Is a data export possible? Sending to other magic plan devices (like between customer and me)?

[@davidmackinnon2968]

Is there another camera with LiDAR that can use your program?

[@davids1681]

Does this class of scanner depend on planes/ straight lines/ corners to maintain accuracy, as some of your comments imply? I'm interested in the potential to 'hike' my rough, heavily-foliated property while scanning with something like this in order to produce a site model that would ideally consist of soil, rocks and larger trees. Lidar-equipped drone survey failed miserably due to dense vegetation - and over-processing by an inexperienced 'operator' - so I'm done with that approach.

[@alexkanellopoulos2948]

Hi, I am using Huawei P40 PRO that has inbuild a very accurate distance sensor and cameras but I cannot use the camera future in the app. Could you please share the technology on Huawei user to?

[@jacobmarley8350]

not to be rude , but can’t compare lidar on a phone , to any form of lidar, i use lidar to scan road construction projects in a surveyor and project engineer and remove lidar can see in canpoy forests and get property line data from the air without cutting trees or clearing an area , it can also see underground .

[@alishahabi7345]

Is the corner detection technology open source?