The absolute hypocrisy of Mustafa lecturing Suleiman on being manipulated by a woman's crocodile tears when the whole reason he's there is because he was manipulated by his mothers tears.
@TJRhea3 ай бұрын
Her manipulating him to go against his father for her was the first step to his downfall. Suleiman lost his trust in Mustafa because of how often he was willing to stand against him. Hurrem was smart. She taught her children to respect their father. When Mihrimah stood up to Suleiman for her she was legitimately shocked, worried and then touched. Suleiman even said that he trusted Hurrem because she was the one woman who didn't want someone else on the throne.
@MuslimmukhtiiАй бұрын
Nah cause he was right wtf u won’t protect ur mother like this ? Tf
@mirandamarku766321 күн бұрын
@TJRhea he never even once went against Syleiman ,Syleiman got only manipulated..and also scared how much Mustafa was loved ..the hurrem's children were never a threat for him..because they were never saw from the people and other like a possible future king . That's why for him there was nothing to be afraid for ..get your facts right..still also in the suleiman eyes mustafa was the only one worth for the rein..
@lovelydove87709 күн бұрын
@@mirandamarku7663 How you gone chack someone and be wrong at the same time. We're all watching the same show!!! Mustafa interjected himself into his father and mother relationship more than once. He thinks his mother is innocent but she has been manipulating him since he was a child. And yes Hurrem children were threats, Sultan Suleiman wanted Mehmed to be his successor.
@mirandamarku76638 күн бұрын
@lovelydove8770 well from you comments we are clearly not seeing the same show 🙄..he protected his mother which was ok ,of course that he has to protect them ..did you see how many times hurrem tried to put Mustafa in traps ..and against Sylejman ,he neven once thought to go against him ..with all his support that he had he could have succeeded..Syleiman never said that Mehmet will be the next padishah..but in many series until the last season was assumed also from Syleiman that the next padishah will be Mustafa ..that why I said hurrem kids were never a threat for him no-one loved or supported them for the throne ..except Bajazid who were supported after Mustafa death ..so ✌️
@im_sandiyasa_official40823 ай бұрын
The weakness of mustafa was having a mother like mahidevran
@Sof20983 ай бұрын
@Euphorya_a Wrong.
@ashscheesecakes20643 ай бұрын
Exactly. In the show, Mustafa was a beautiful prince however he was cursed to have a busy body, selfish and manipulative excuse for a mother. After her hand in the poisoning of Mehmet, I lost any respect or sympathy I had for her.
@ashscheesecakes20643 ай бұрын
@Euphorya_a Can you not read? I specifically said the tv shows version of Prince Mustafa.
@ashscheesecakes20643 ай бұрын
@Euphorya_a WE KNOW! If you read my original comment again, you'd see I'm not talking about the real life people. I'm talking about the characters in the tv show.
@ashscheesecakes20643 ай бұрын
@Euphorya_a I am calm. 🤷🏻♀️ I suppose that's why your original comment to me is suddenly missing as well though. I agree with your comments of the real life counterparts. Imagine having the chance to go back in time meet and interact with them...
@Crystal01002 ай бұрын
Suleyman's one look was enough for hatice to sit back down 😂
@lindam51862 ай бұрын
So to summarize... Mahidevran ran into Hurrem's room without permission, knocking or any decent introduction, started attacking and insulting her, Hurrem told her to shut up (well I am not sultan's legal wife but if someone did that, I would be even tougher, maybe I would hit the person without saying anything) and then she threatened her, not to mention she even used her own child to threaten her, Hurrem just fought back, Mahidevran was going to hit her, Suleiman stopped her and wanted her to apologize (which is actually pretty valid) and she still feels like the victim and even lies to her son about it... Well, this scene just shows that it was Mahidevran's lies and manipulation that made Mustafa and Hurrem enemies. In my opinion, Mahidevran never truly loved Mustafa the way mother is supposed to love her child, he was her weapon, her source of power, which was pretty obvious, she even killed his first love (Elif), wanted to get rid of his child, tried to kill Helena etc. She never cared about his feelings, just his future because it was her future as well.
@lovelydove87709 күн бұрын
I said this from the beginning Mahidevran never truly loved Mustafa, instead she saw him as a weapon to get what she wanted and that power. Had she truly cared for her son, she would've never allowed him to get involved in her relationship with his father. She did exactly what Hurrem said she would do and that burn his finger as well.
@n.y.1742 ай бұрын
I feel like people hate Hurrem because they want her to be a perfect victim and never fight back. At this point in the story Hurrem has seen her family die, been kidnapped into slavery, been beaten, poisoned while pregnant, forced to kill her first love, terrorized, and burned. All while being insulted and talked down to. I guess she's supposed to just be graceful through all this?
@hola_itz_a_potato3 ай бұрын
Mustafa says Suleiman can't rule a woman when actually it's him who keeps being ruled by women throughout the wholw series. He is the one who keeps sacrificing himself in front of his mother's whining. First Mahidevran then Nora started ruling him and then mihirunnisa. When in contrary, Even though hurrem had a great influence on hurrem, he didn't let her get in his decisions regarding politics affairs and others that much. Sometimes hurrem tried to cross that limit of influence on him but he immediately showed hurrem her limits again.
@Enchantedbylara3 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't see why it should be bad thing if a woman can't be dominated or "ruled" by a man These line was just peak misogyny 😂 and it shows how men in that time were afraid of women's natural power 😂
@Enchantedbylara3 ай бұрын
Also the reason why mustafa was ruled by her mother and other women is because it's simple Men are protecters by nature and a woman's tears can easily manipulate them
@bharathiramesh58783 ай бұрын
U forgot to mention other women ..like valide,hatice,sha huban etc who ruled over mustafa😅basically he never used his own brains..if any He was always happy being manipulated by others Not at all fit to be the future sultan
@nerdnot28452 ай бұрын
An advice to shehzade if i were you i am gonna ask for money to buy tv and watch with my siblings
@suchitayadav14312 ай бұрын
Mahidevran was the cause of her son's death..she with her crocodile tears drifted Mustafa from Suleiman
@dayahnawilkins51263 ай бұрын
I really dislike mahidevran. All the things that she’s done to hurrem and doesn’t even think to realize that she’s one of the reasons why Hurrem acts the way she does. It’s all because of her. Then you go and manipulate your son. This was one of mustafa’s worse moments defending her when she was lying.
@zahraalioua65603 ай бұрын
What did you want her to do to tell take m'y man hhh😂
@dayahnawilkins51263 ай бұрын
@@zahraalioua6560 I’m sorry but I don't understand your reply to me. I think your reply was for someone else. It's not correlating to what I wrote.
@user-ke9ir1xn7p19 күн бұрын
@@zahraalioua6560 She also did the same thing. She was not Suleiman's only concubine...her aggressive behaviour is unjustified because she did the same thing to Gulfem.
@micheleford42823 ай бұрын
i dont understand why he doesnt just sit mustafa down and tell him that he witnessed the whole thing and that hurrem wasnt doing anything to mahidevran or that he has had proof that she tried to murder hurrem and hurt her. mustafa being manipulated by his evil mother is just sad and when he dies she will blame hurrem instead of herself.
@asaasura69013 ай бұрын
The problem is that he’s the sultan. He doesn’t have to explain his decisions to anyone otherwise it would undermine his authority. That’s why he didn’t explain himself to Hatice when he executed Ibrahim.
@lindaimelcha923 ай бұрын
If you want to take revenge on the mother, go ahead.Why should she exploit mustafa?Wasn't the king already under Hurrem's influence?
@micheleford42823 ай бұрын
@@lindaimelcha92 the sultan told hurrem off more than once when she crossed the line so no he wasnt under her influence and she wasnt a witch doing magic on him lol.
@TJRhea3 ай бұрын
@@asaasura6901 Exactly. As a Sultan he could not entertain the disrespect of Mustafa's behavior. He even tried to warn him with compassion but he doubled down.
@asaasura69013 ай бұрын
@@TJRhea Right? Mustafa was very naive and still thought that Suleiman was his father before being his ruler and unfortunately that was not the reality it was the reverse.
@annisahakiki3 ай бұрын
Mustafa went to far by saying 'But you can't rule a woman', first that was a clear show of disrespect, Suleiman is his father and the Sultan, yet he dared to 'lecture' him like that?! Second, Mustafa was a hypocrite. He said his father was controled by Hurrem but he didn't realize he was also manipulated and controled by his mother fake stories, playing victims and tears.
@TJRhea3 ай бұрын
Yeah he never realized until right before the end how deeply his mother manipulated him. The way she worked with his wife towards the end to deceive him quite literally lead to his death.
@lindarasid64873 ай бұрын
Hurrem is a great Queen. I love her.
@mairanadeem9452Ай бұрын
The conflict between mustafa and sultan was due to mahidevran. In order to keep his mother happy he violated rules
@lovelydove87708 күн бұрын
And people praise him for standing up for his mother smh
@magnificentlyawkward44433 ай бұрын
I can’t stand Mahidevran. It’s like she is the literal manifestation of a shocked pikachu. She tries the play the victim but she’s committed the crime before Hurrem
@AsadiJghdjd-je6sf3 ай бұрын
He loves hurrem so much hahaha😂
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
Well said suleiman. Hurrem sultan is dynasty member now
@sixpathguide55392 ай бұрын
2:25 you can sense the power o sultan lol. even haticd sultana understood the assignment
@Johnrom122 ай бұрын
What a horrible family dinner!!!
@i_dreamerАй бұрын
2:32 I just paused the video and Ibrahim's expression 😂
@LostfromthelightАй бұрын
well, father and son are the same but in this case Suleyman acted as a sultan and not a husband: what happened to Hurrem was a clear challenge to the ruler's authority and Mustafa's behaviour was justified from a son's POV but not a prince's
@intanzakia32473 ай бұрын
Hurrem itu cerdas sekaligus bijaksana. Meskipun dia seorang sultana, dia masih bisa membela keadilan untuk bawahnya yg d perlakukan tidak adil. Dia jg tau batas dmn dia harus berhenti d hadapan Sulaiman. Karena itu Sulaiman sangat mencintainya!
@spark97711 күн бұрын
Mustafa knew it very well his mother is guilty but still he supports her since she is always tearing 😞
@jacquelinepeters35758 күн бұрын
Im amazed at just how much Mahidevran got away with.
@rosekoufopoulou89732 ай бұрын
4:57 here we see how Hürrem charmed Suleyman! And before someone tell me that, everything was to survive, no! Everything to get the power which she wanted! Hürrem wanted to has Suleyman on her hands!
@izas57683 ай бұрын
Mustafa haha, so true, so true ❤
@Valeriana-me1yrАй бұрын
No.
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
How dare mahidevil talk to her like that and even raise her hand? Shes talking to a dynasty member, hurrem sultan.
@izas57683 ай бұрын
XD chill
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
@@izas5768 iam
@TJRhea3 ай бұрын
I really do hate how they changed all of that in the show. In history, after Hurrem married Suleiman no member of the harem would EVER get away with treating her like that.
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
@@izas5768 im
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
@iza s I am.
@annaglica416111 күн бұрын
Happy birthday meryem
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
Mustafa watch your words. Hurrem sultan outranks you
@izas57683 ай бұрын
Tfu hurrem hurrem hurrrrrrrem fans
@user-gp3xf7jp9n3 ай бұрын
@@izas5768 we tell the truth
@chomiczek_tusia93092 ай бұрын
No valide sultana or haseki is comparable to sehzade (heir) and the sultan
@user-gp3xf7jp9n2 ай бұрын
@@chomiczek_tusia9309 no they outrank the prince
@gordanaterzic41212 ай бұрын
He won't because he is spitting the fax
@annaglica416111 күн бұрын
Happy birthady
@alexam184810 күн бұрын
Women kept as slaves, fighting with each other,a grandiose civilization
@maanzj3 ай бұрын
Mahi dug her own grave , her inability to control her anger and think clearly
@noeraldinkabam19 күн бұрын
11:59 here is where Mustafa started to die. (In the series)
@jencuster154316 күн бұрын
Valide should have known better She has aged and she’s been through a lot yes but her son is married to Hurrem He is the Sultan now and she still acts like Mahidevran is her sons only woman How sad!
@naomilaboo2 ай бұрын
These comments are bananas! Hurrem is not innocent! There are many times I don’t like her manipulating behind! Mustafa has my whole respect!
@phoenixsultana2 ай бұрын
She's not innocent but she also isn't a Saturday morning cartoon villain. She's the most complex character in the show.
@Valeriana-me1yrАй бұрын
No one is innocent, but here Mahidevnan attacked Hurrem. And hearing this from Mustafa is doubly funny. He was manipulated all his life by his mother, and then by his wife. He is a fool for going to argue with the Sultan. He destroyed himself, and his mother helped
@rajasekhar994Ай бұрын
Dub this serial in Telugu too please
@54lijuАй бұрын
I am watching the episodes in bits so can anyone explain what happen to hurrem's face here
@florentinag18683 ай бұрын
Un copil Mustafa,crescut cu dorințele mamei sale MAHIDREVAN,de a deveni sultan cu orice preț! Manipulat împotriva propriilor frați și chiar al sultanului Suleiman!
@PriscedaHarris-ys8jj16 күн бұрын
Ugh! Mustafa is stupid. His mom is the one crying in front of him. Hurrem only shares what happened to her while Sulieman was on campaign. All the murder attempts on Hurrem by Mahidevran and she is still in the palace?
@Aliyaevans19942 ай бұрын
How many years.was hurrem missing for
@yvonneburns2786Ай бұрын
Five at least I think
@Bapterion013 ай бұрын
Hurrem provokes everyone without discernment or distinction of their social class and looks down on everyone with his condescending and superior airs.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl3 ай бұрын
They started it; Hurrem has a right to fight back
@somerandomnon-importantper32193 ай бұрын
How easily you forget the way they behaved towards her in the beginning
@Redluna323 ай бұрын
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl Was about to say, this is arguably one of the times where she has the _most_ reason to fight back in such a way.
@ashscheesecakes20643 ай бұрын
They mercilessly bullied, harassed and attacked her and she got NO justice whatsoever. But as soon as she does the same or fights back, then she's the problem? Where is the logic in that?
@asaasura69013 ай бұрын
Hurrem has been beaten, burnt, slapped, bewitched, almost married off without consent, poisoned, humiliated, belittled and plotted against but how dare she defend herself 😀
@yumekojabami41793 ай бұрын
12:51
@kdallas3966Ай бұрын
Cat fight.
@araku-ahiddengemofnaturebe77582 ай бұрын
Hurrem thirsty for throne and lost her children
@gordanaterzic41212 ай бұрын
True
@Valeriana-me1yrАй бұрын
No, it's about Mahidevran. What did you watch the series with?! Hurrem did not thirsty for the throne, she was loyal to the Sultan until the end of her life, her son took the throne, her daughter also survived. And Mahidevil lost everything because of her stupidity
@mirandamarku7663Ай бұрын
Those comments are ridiculously..clearly they didn't see the series...hurrem was a horrible person ,Mustafa was a victim of his own conscious and good heart
@jessiewhitman868821 күн бұрын
Hurrem was no angel.. but she was not horrible
@mirandamarku766321 күн бұрын
@@jessiewhitman8688 she was ..the worst person, who saw the series knows that .....
@judychaoui358721 күн бұрын
I guess what we are watching is different from what you are watching 😂
@mirandamarku766321 күн бұрын
@@judychaoui3587 or maybe you just like manipulative people, this doesn't change the things that she was horrible..the purpose of the series in turkey was actually also to show how manipulative was she ...and portraited her in a negative way ..and also in the History is known for her manipulative personality..🫠
@lindaimelcha923 ай бұрын
The throne has blinded Hurrem Until he wanted to exploit Mustafa...Is this the so-called best queen?
@gabrielsusan-pf1xm3 ай бұрын
You are really blind? Hurrem only wanted to fight for Suleyman and for her kids. She was the best sultana and not droven into power
@izas57683 ай бұрын
@@gabrielsusan-pf1xm you are blind too 😂😂😂
@phoenixsultana2 ай бұрын
There's a lot more to it than that.
@nerdnot28453 ай бұрын
I really hate hurrem.
@diamondcrystal93083 ай бұрын
If she was alive, she'd hate you too😊
@radhasri50543 ай бұрын
Why?
@radhasri50543 ай бұрын
She is strong and survived all evil people. I love hurrem.
@Sof20983 ай бұрын
@Euphorya_a Historical Hürrem was even stronger, more powerful, more influental, more intelligent and more strategic. One kind of a woman. The series downplays her might, and makes up drama and plots that didn't even exist, all the while gives more credit to the pea-sized and shallow, whiny and hypocritical Mahidevran.