MAGNUMS: Choosing THE RIGHT CARTRIDGE

[@07thunderhawk]

The 6.5 Grendel, 7mm-08, and 30-06 are my favorites. Oh what the heck, they're all my favorite!

[@ForestxWalker06]

I love my grendel and -06.haven’t gotten anything new yet

[@axelsprangare2579]

6.5x50R reb is my favorite. Ultimate all round cartridge, barrel life and case life like a 30-30. Ballistics like a 6.5 grendel. Rimmed so it works in all actions. Precision like a 6mm PPC!!!

[@robspath4203]

This video was great! As a cartridge collector, this is right up my ally. I really need to consider doing a series of videos like this.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Rob! Cartridge collecting is so interesting; I've learned so much from cartridge collectors!

[@paulsimmons5726]

Great presentation, as always. I enjoyed the side by side visual, especially the idea of placing the 30-06 to give a common comparison. Brilliant! Gotta say that you really covered the wide span of calibers and brief explanations with your selected line of rounds. BTW, I bought a copy of the ammo book you reviewed a few weeks back, very interesting. I was surprised by how many variables there are using the 30-06 case as a starting point. A better idea was never borrowed from the Mauser folks than the US adaptation of the 7x57 to the 30-03. Well, at least until Mauser won their lawsuit. LOL! Good luck with whatever hunting trips you manage to schedule during this crazy year! Take care and be well!

[@swkohnle08]

Excellent presentation on magnum vs standard cartridges Mike. It’s a mind boggling thought that there are so many different approaches to perfect trajectory, sectional density, and velocity of a cartridge. That and there are so many different options depending on purpose of the cartridges selected for a given task. You did a fantastic job of explaining the differences tossing in a little bit of physics and your video with my early morning coffee makes for a great start to the day. Thank you and stay well. Cheers.

[@robertdancho9671]

Great video Mike. You mentioned 22-250; first rifle I bought (1967) was a new to market Remington 700 varmint special, very accurate (1/4” Moa). Wish I still had it.

[@kenworthNH]

I just picked one up in .243. it's a 1967 BDL varmint special. It's in amazing condition. My grand kids will probably inherit this some day.

[@michaelguerin56]

Excellent visual aid. Best way of telling the story in a quick and easy manner that I have seen. The 7.92x57I had too thin a jacket, which caused excessive obturation, excess pressure and occasional jacket separation. The expedient solution was to increase the nominal groove diameter from 8.12mm to 8.22mm (.324”), starting in July 1896. The original rifling depth was 1.0mm. The test rifling depths were 1.25mm, 1.5mm and 1.75mm. 1.5mm was the best compromise! The new rifling was called ‘Z’ rifling and receiver rings were marked with a large Z. The new pointed ‘S’ bullet had a thicker jacket, supposedly around the same diameter core, officially coming out at 8.22mm but more likely 8.21mm or 8.2mm in practice (in the same way that every .308” hunting/target bullet I have measured came out at .3075”) and it worked perfectly in Z rifling. When the new round was adopted all the German 7.92x57I service rifles whose barrels were originally rifled to Z spec were rechambered to take the S round and the Z on the receiver ring was replaced with an S. If you want to know more, I suggest that you read John Walter’s 1978/9 book on German service rifles or the Schiffer Publishing translation of Goetz’s book which tells the same story.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Wonderful detail Michael! Thank you and I'll read the book.

[@Ian-qf5ny]

Great summary! I will just add, you mentioned "barrel burner" if anyone needs to know what that implies... in general a negative side effect of more velocity is shorter barrel life, maybe more so with a lot of powder and a small bore diameter. Only really a consideration if you plan on shooting a lot of ammo though

[@tonysambar]

Have been using my favourite a .358 Norma Magnum on the big sambar deer here in the mountains forests of southern Australia.

[@johnparrish9215]

I own an AR10 upper in a cartridge named after your deer 358 Sambar, it's a 300 WSM necked to 358. You guys must have some very tough deer.

[@ashmerch2558]

@@johnparrish9215 what would be a good stout, (maybe 0.5-1gr below max) with 225gr bullet. I ask because I too am in the 358 fraternity, being my favorite hunting rifle is my Ruger M77 Mk.II in 35 Whelen AI. I have a Savage 10 in 300WSM and am looking to make a conversion to 358 Sambar

[@davewinter2688]

Hey it’s me (Dave) again Mike, Another great educational and entertaining video that I just discovered! I started going to the woods with my father when I was about 6 years old and actually being allowed to carry the single shot 22 on squirrel hunts at about age 10 AFTER he had taught me the basic safety and shooting skills including some that he learned in the army during WWII. Now in my 71st year I’ve been hand loading and shooting various cartridges for over fifty years but I’m still trying to learn. I think I was at least somewhat familiar with all the cartridges you showed and own or have owned a dozen or so of the ones you discussed plus a couple you didn’t discuss. I don’t know when learned about a Magnum of Champagne. I’ve never had one of those. I generally think of a magnum cartridge as one with a very large case that holds a lot of powder to propel a bullet at very high velocities. Now we have cartridges that equal or exceed the velocities of the original “belted magnums” but don’t have a belt and aren’t labeled magnums. I’m guilty of thinking that everyone should know everything I know if they’re a serious hunter or target shooter. I forget that you have viewers of all ages from all over the world and that they may not have had mentors like my Dad and others who have helped me learn over the years. Unfortunately some of those viewers get a lot of their information about firearms from people on the internet or other places who really know nothing about guns or hunting. Fortunately there are some, like you, who have a lot more knowledge and experience than I do and are able pass on that knowledge in calm, concise manner without a lot of hyperbole. Your teaching reminds me of reading the late great Jack O’Connor. For those who still read, I recommend Jack O’Connor’s “The Rifle Book” if they can find a copy. It is a basic A to Z primer on rifles and cartridges for both hunting and some target shooting. Some of the information is outdated and some even politically incorrect now days but if someone that knows absolutely nothing about guns reads it from cover to cover, they can gain a wealth of knowledge from one man that learned over a lifetime. I believe the last edition was from 1964 but not positive about that. Another of his books that covers both rifles and shotguns is his “Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns”. I highly recommend both. Among Utube pundits you are among the few that I have found who seem to be really knowledgeable. I base that on the fact that they reinforce what I already know to be true and teach me things I did not know. Some are older than me and some a generation or more younger. The common thread is that they use logic in their presentations and have repeatable data and research to backup what they say. Those that I group you with are Gunblue490, North61, Desert Dog Outdoors, Big Game Hunting Blog and Ron Spomer. Their styles are different and may not be appealing to everyone but they all have really good, reliable information IMHO. I have no connection financially or otherwise with any of them. Thanks again for your work and happy hunting.😊

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for such a detailed and forthright post. We're fortunate to know what we know, and been part of what many believe is/was the golden age of guns and hunting. I appreciate that my videos are okay to you; you're a knowledgeable gun person and probably knowledgeable period. As you know, we live in very difficult times - especially for the younger people. Reality is often not viewed directly as it was for us. I can imagine how different reality is for those who mostly see everything through a window. Even if the window is perfect and clear and the glass flawless - it is still a window. I always just stepped outside; with guns and with everything. God Bless.

[@equalopportunityguns]

I Love my 280 Remington’s! Made me smile when you mentioned it! Most people don’t know what it is, and then if I tell them You have a Remington Model 4 in 7mm Express Remington forget it!

[@alberttresslevic914]

Thanks good sir for a very informative video, what a tough subject to summarise concisely I reckon you could make 10 sequels and still have more to say! I don't really need to hunt with a magnum but I like to, a 30-06 with the right projectile will do what I need 90% of the time but I inherited a Lovely Sauer 200 in 300wby and the joy I get using that surpasses logic and reasoning 👍

[@MrGS53]

Super helpful firearms videos without any vanity or over excitement. Great channel.

[@babyhuey6342]

Really appreciate the .30-06s scattered through the lineup. Helps benchmark the sizes. Gotta love that .300 H&H. Every one I've ever shot has been extremely accurate, that case feeds like a hot knife through butter, and I've yet to meet the elk that could live on the difference between that and the Win Mag.

[@patrickross3290]

Your videos are amongt the best on KZbin! Thank you for your willingness to share in an informed, well-thought through production

[@Mikejohnson-wr2hd]

Really interesting presentation, USOG. I share your love of the 280 Remington. I have a Ruger 77 that my wife bought me in the 1970s and a Remington 700 anniversary from 2007. Handloaded to the full potential of the cartridge in a strong bolt action they are all that’s needed in North America especially when loaded with the new super bullets from Barnes, Nosler, swift etc. Please keep the videos coming.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Mike - thank you! I'll keep making videos : )

[@CowboyTutt]

Just found this. One of your very best presentations for sure! -Tutt

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Andy!

[@davidissitt7718]

My 4 favourite rounds .17 hmr .22 250 .243 .270 David in Somerset England

[@curtwarkentin6167]

17 hmr is the favourite round at my farm. Everyone loves shooting that over the 22 lr’s or the centerfire rifles. I must admit it’s perfect at my farm for kids to target shoot and varmint control (ie beavers). Taken most of the beavers at my farm using that round. Crazy accurate.

[@gym55rat]

25-06, 308, and 300wsm have been in my stable. Sold the 300wsm, I'm on the hunt for 338federal, 338-06, or 35whelen.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

I love the .25-06 recoils like a .242 with nock down punch of a .270

[@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888]

The 30-06 Springfield and the 8mm Mauser are around the cutoff point for the average person to have the ability to handle recoil without developing a flinch. So I tend to use that as a guide when I am recommending calibers to new shooters and hunters. My personal choice is the excellent 7mm-08 as it can handle deer easily and has little recoil. It can also take elk when used appropriately. When it comes to magnums or other calibers that are above the 30-06 Springfield in recoil I recommend going for a heavier weight rifle and a very well designed stock that fits the shooter well. I see plenty of lightweight mountain rifles in the used section in magnum calibers because the combination of the two really doesn't work for many if not most shooters and hunters. Unfortunately, people have to keep up with the Joneses and whatever the gun magazines tell them is the hot new rifle and cartridge combination. Another thing is that shooting magnums such as the .338 winmag one needs to resolve a few simple facts. The first is that shooting such a gun while wearing a t-shirt with nothing else over it is probably not going to be fun for most shooters. Using a shoulder mounted recoil pad from Caldwell or similar can make a world of difference. For someone who doesn't have one of those I recommend putting a towel over the shoulder to help reduce felt recoil. The second fact is that the .338 winmag is a dangerous game rifle. It is great on moose and elk, but is designed first and foremost to kill grizzly bears. When one keeps to the facts of what a particular caliber is designed to do, what their hunting conditions are like, what their quarry is, what their hunting regulations are, and what their shooting abilities are then they can make wise choices when it comes to rifle and caliber selection.

[@JS92GoW2]

The effort you go through to explain all this, to both new hunters and some of us that have hunted a couple of years or maybe a lifetime is nothing short of amazing, fantastic video!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

It is my privilege.

[@ShooperDog]

Even THIS guy can't find any 9mm ammo! ;-) That made me literally LOL. Excellent video!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

: )

[@curtwarkentin6167]

I chose a 300 win mag because we have bears at our farm and ammo for it is relatively cheap compared to other magnums and it’s everywhere. But a lot of those rounds I’ve never even heard of before. Very interesting and informative video.

[@mikek8089]

As usual, nice video Mike! I always have to chuckle when we see all of the accrutments that you bring out for display, and how you say you're driving your producers crazy lol.

[@rickpaul9565]

As usual excellent presentation. Informative and entertaining. I hunt exclusively with .22LR (squirrels) or .243/12 gauge for deer. I did buy a .338 Win Mag because...well just because I could. I won't ever hunt with it but it was VERY inexpensive and I wanted to see what this cartridge does. Big recoil but no worse than some heavy magnum slugs that I shoot. Again, enjoyable video 🇺🇸😇

[@marvley361]

That .338 mag is a great cartridge for big game. I have shot three elk and several big mule deer with it and those bullets just plow right through them. Never had to shoot twice.

[@prw7016]

I just recently came across a little known cartridge, to me at least and I am very impressed with it. A friend gave me a cartridge to add to my collection. The .280 Ross. According to Wikipedia, it was the first practical cartridge to reach the edge of 3,000 fps. and was designed in 1906.

[@zayacz123]

Well done! This was the book Cartridges of the World on video. I especially like your use of the green tipped 30-06’s. You have an amazing cartridge collection.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Ed Z - I am so grateful for your kind words.

[@toddkurtz7635]

Wonderful presentation! And I wholeheartedly agree with you that the .284 bore is indeed hard to beat. The variety of bullet weights,great sectional density and just overall efficiency is really the epitome of all around cartridge.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Todd - I guess cartridges ebb and flow in popularity - the .284 is so good it is hard to believe isn't chambered in more rifles. Same for the 7x57. Oh well - people re-discover these superb rounds. Stay safe and write again. All the best to you.

[@ChitFromChinola]

Your delivery is just so good. Really good info. Thank you for posting.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you so much! Your kind words help me a lot.

[@ronlafitte6864]

The tried and true older cartridges will still get the job done. Everyone tries to perfect a round that beats the 30-06...... but it still survives and is a stellar performer. If I was after big dangerous game, I would certainly opt for a magnum, just because. But there is no substitute for marksmanship. Never has been, never will be! Thank you for a wonderful video, Mike! Awesome as always!!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

First class comment Ron - everyone should read what you wrote. It is where the bullet goes that matters. As my surgeon friend told me "A needle will top a heart." The very best to you. : )

[@chrism4008]

Just found your videos, and I absolutely love them. So much info

[@josearellano5778]

Boss man you did an awesome job on this video‼️ You explained a lot about cartridge size and bullet length and bullet weight. You even introduced me to some cartridges I never even heard of before‼️

[@calicojack556]

I think this video was outstanding! I like the different perspective you bring and you obviously have a large breadth of experience.

[@magicdaveable]

Great Video! Excellent descriptions and the practicality of the plethora of cartridges.

[@sonofjoanne1969]

I grew up the son of a reloader, so nuanced, technical debates are like an old comfort to me.

[@ahmedfayez5505]

Really very informative demonstration......many people dont know how much effort and time was put in such short vedio.....I really appreciate your time and effort......if I may suggest a future topic.....it will be....."Trajectory".....thanks again 👍

[@rogerwilliams2629]

Perfect way to enjoy my Sunday morning coffee and pipe. Always enjoy your presentations and learn something. Thank you very much, and God bless.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

God Bless you and yours Roger.

[@jreed10291974]

Great video Loved it. I chose the 45-70 it does all I need it to do for deer hunting. I have been hunting for a long time 33 years and I have never killed a deer that was more than 50 yards most being 20 to 25 yards here in Arkansas. But if I need to I can go more I have killed a pig or 2 at 150 to 200 yards with it.

[@flintrichards945]

It’s funny how manny people have so much bad information or the lack off information this is a great video to help with that as a young boy I was reading everything I could get my hands on about guns and ammunition. So I have a lot of knowledge and try to pass it on to others it’s quite interesting .

[@BigFiveJack]

I suggest that you do a video on the newer beltLESS magnums, especially Ruger Compact Mags, which are engineered to use much shorter barrels, so much more convenient to carry while in the woods hunting!

[@thetoneknob4493]

the bolt guns chambered in 222 had a reputation of being great shooters! i love the 35 whelen for being versatile as is the 30.06. i still have a box of Remington 55grn accelerators in 30.06 that run about 4120 fps that my sporeterized mod 1917 actually shoots well along with the stoutly charged 220grn loads. it shoots whatever you feed. it pretty much exactly wear you point it.my latest find was something that was in 5.56-223 cal and black, because it seemed like a good bet since it was just before they started skyrocketing in price and got a lil harder to find like any pistols in 9mm right now cause all the ammo is gone..sadly the same with 5.56 -223 i havent gotten to even sight mine in yet as ammo went from 11$ a box of 20 and available to 29-35$ a box and back ordered .and right now times are tough hopefully next year ill get the old gal sighted in at least.

[@josephgomes8543]

Did I miss it or was the legendary 6.5x55 Swedish left out of this collection? Also, I recently read an article extolling the virtues of the 280 Ackley Improved (AI) and it nearly duplicated the ballistics of the 7mm Rem Mag with less recoil and muzzle blast.

[@davidkohler7454]

I started out 40 some years ago with 30.06 then 308. Then have since settled on the flat shooting mild recoil and very capable 6.5 x 55 Swede. I love this round. Lots of my friends have jumped on the 6,5 Creedmoore wagon. But you can't prove to me that it's in any way better than my 6.5 Swede. I hand load everything .so I have recipes for what I need to accomplish.

[@BobcatSchneidermann]

Terrific video :-) I only have one rifle, an old Otterup M52 in 6.5x55, heavy old thing good mostly for the range, and I want something new and shiny (don't we all?) The reasonable thing would be to get either another 6.5x55, so I can use the same reloading equipment, or something completely different, such as a .375 H&H, so I can cover more bases for hunting and such, but the heart wants what the heart wants, and at this time my heart wants a Mauser style take-down rifle in 7x57 with an extra barrel in 9.3x62. Have a great week, sir :-)

[@randyzwieg8467]

Well explained. Two points. One)some cartridges are limited by barrel twist. Two) bullet choice is often limited by the most common twists. Years ago I saw a facsimile of a Winchester European catalog from 1913 introducing the fine 270 Winchester. Bad timing. It of course reappears in their 1925 catalog in the M54 and the rest, well...

[@adamnajera1297]

Thank you for educating us young folk.

[@peanut3050]

6.5x55 great round!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

A diamond.

[@ajohnson5410]

As always, great video, Mike! Even your ramblings convey some highly valuable information.

[@jakebutler6473]

I like this type of comparison video with tidbits of knowledge thrown in, would be interesting to have all of the 7 to 9mm bullets arranged by case capacity. I'm assuming you have all almost all of them lmao

[@north61]

I like thinking of a rifle system being like an internal combustion engine with a non reusable piston. It has bore size (caliber), and stroke length (barrel length) The case gives a metered amount of fuel (powder) and the piston(bullet) goes flying off into the world when the spark plug (primer) goes off. A magnum increases the fuel delivery giving more volume of combustion but at a certain point you need to have a bigger bore to increase energy delivery further. Thanks for making a great channel....you do cost me money though as I have bought a few rifles on your suggestion!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Brilliant and well written. I hope people read your post. Thanks for the kind words too - they mean a lot to me. The very best to you.

[@north61]

I am sure I stole the idea from somewhere else!

[@westyaus5090]

Awesome video as always and it has stirred something up for me to investergate and follow up on for my own information. Keep it up legend.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Martin!

[@claudiodominguez.]

To add a special feature of ballistics on flesh, I present hydrostatic shock. Speed is energy and with proper bullet design the faster the impact the greater chance for remote nerve damage. This can create a DRT scenario, not dismissing bullet placement.

[@rick4649]

Please do a video telling us about yourself. How did you begin collecting guns, how big is your collection, do you focus on a particular type of guns, ect. I really enjoy your post and look forward to each one.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Rick - I will do that. God Bless and stay safe.

[@ralphlivingston762]

Wow! I made it all the way through! My only comment concerns the 30-40 Krag (30 Army). This was the first American smokeless cartridge and was the culmination of exhaustive metallurgical and chemical research. It also established the standard .308 diameter. And all this was accomplished by the.Springfield Armory in the 1890's. Those guys were really good.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Ralph - you're right - great minds and dedicated people.

[@russellmiller212]

You just answered my inquiry, but greetings in any case! Always a privilege to listen to one of the most diverse, humble, tolerant and receptive firearms enthusiasts in the world...and I have another inquiry sir. Was the 300 Holland & Holland the first .30 caliber magnum cartridge, followed by the 300 Winchester magnum? The 300 H&H was routinely in the winning circle early on. Interestingly, the. 300 Wby was introduced before the 300 Winchester magnum, and although not substantially, the 300 Wby is noticeably more powerful. Yet only recently in 2007 did a shooter set a world record at 1,000 yard (5 shot X-ring group) with the Weatherby cartridge. ---- Then again sir, the big 50 Browning Machine Gun cartridge holds no record and to my knowledge has not won any significant long distance event. Even more intriguing, the 30-06 accelerator cartridge you have on hand! A true collector cartridge and the iconic 35 Whelen (necked up 30-06 case neck) The 7X57 is my favorite cartridge and the blueprint for what came to be caliber U.S. 30 or the 30-06. We also know from previous dialogue that 50 BMG is in fact, a scaled up 30-06!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Russell, Your kind words inspire me; thank you so much. The .300 H&H arrived around 1925 - the first non-wildcat .300 magnum. My German subscribers describe "magnum like" cartridges even earlier but they were metric - mostly 8mm. There might have been wildcats before the H&H "Super Thirty" - but I don't know them. Your 7x57 does it all and with such efficiency, modest recoil and excellence - I'm still amazed it is not far more popular. The very best to you and yours.

[@russellmiller212]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns God bless you sir. Happy Holidays!

[@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888]

A Canadian sniper used a sniper rifle in .50 BMG to set the record for longest confirmed sniper kill at 3,871 yards. So it certainly does hold a record in long distance shooting, but one that is measured in life and death. A neat thing about the 300 Wby is that the 300 H&H can be safely shot in a gun that is chambered for the 300 Wby. This is because what Roy did to create the 300 Wby was to blow out the 300 H&H case to gain more powder capacity. So in the early days of the 300 Wby people would shoot 300 H&H ammo to get the brass fireformed to the 300 Wby chamber.

[@russellmiller212]

@@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888a Precision, accuracy and X count. We both understand that a 10 shot string with 9 X's and a 9 still loses when paired against a 10 shot string with no X count but 10/10, and probably would also lose in terms of group size during benchrest precision tournaments. Therefore, there is a need for clarification on what KD m.o.a. shooters define as 'world record' versus what sniper teams measure starting from a 200 or 300 meter 'no-wind zero'. The MILDOT system is ideally used to bracket a human silhouette at a given distance, but can cover and favor to any degree on any target without difficulty. Also, shot placement can indeed be accurate with lesser quality mil-dot sites. The fact that the 50 BMG hasn't set a record at any sanctioned shooting event is a reality which may be a simple matter of practicality in terms of component cost and availability. Consider the loading press, dies, shell holders, priming plungers, primers and bullets are specialty items, which may or may not be available to the precision shooter who does not have the gold required to purchase Match Grade 50 BMG ammunition routinely, and that is if expensive and almost exotic ammo is available or can be made available in time to prepare for a competitive long range shooting event. Scores are measured by cumulative/aggregate points and/or group size (presumably 5 shot strings measured from the center of the outer holes with a 'plugger' on a 36 inch bullseye type NRA regulation target; distance between scoring rings will become wider and the 'X' ring will become larger in diameter as the distance increases. During benchrest tournaments, the NRA will generally not be concerned about changing to a new target, which is what would occur if a National Match Composite shooter or 300 meter international 'free rifle' shooter shot a perfect 20X 'clean' (2 10X 10 shot strings completed within the authorized time, usually with a magazine or stripper clip change required) ------ Very good sir! You are correct -- 300 H&H being fireformed to 300 Wby by the legendary, innovative Roy Weatherby. If I'm correct, it was either the 300 Wby or 264 Wby that was the first Weatherby cartridge.

[@thomsenpelzer6625]

Strangely enough here in Germany used rifles chambered in 30-06, .308, 7x64 or 8x57IS are often way more expensive then those with the "big" rounds. You often find 7mm rem mag, 300 win mag, 300 WSM or equal for very good pricing. I have a Sauer 200 chambered in 300 win mag. As it came with the old steel system it is rather heavy so it doesn't kick that much compared to a Blaser R8 with a short barrel in 30-06. I love the round and I use it quite often chasing fallow deer or even roe bucks. No problems so far. Usually the game goes down once it's hit. Bit boring for the dog though as we have no issues finding them in the woods. BR from Germany.

[@paulfixdivcars5614]

Another great vid....👍 I have hunted mainly with the 30-06 and 270 Win on driven game (im not a long distance shooter/hunter) they are both good stoppers in my opinion, I have considered (for wild boar and Elk) the 9,3x62 ! Taking in consideration that on running game I rather not shoot further than about 150 meters....maybe I’m getting old (58😊) .

[@paulhaines4818]

As always Mike, very informative and enjoyable video 👍

[@mdub1955]

Mike, that is a difficult topic coupled with the variety of ammunition for a wee 25 minute window. Regardless, good info and presentation. I learn something from your work each time I listen to your videos.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Marc : ) Good words are such encouragment.

[@CrimeVid]

Not having the opportunity( money) to shoot deer in the UK, I still maintain an interest in hunting rounds. I decided years ago that the .35 Whelan seemed like the ideal calibre, and enough people that actually know what they are talking about agree with me, most pleasing !

[@mikehagan4320]

Nice Job as Usual. ! Best Wishes! M.H.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Mike!

[@pseudopetrus]

Great video, I think that the industry has tried too hard to re-invent the wheel!

[@bradweaver2215]

Great video👍unfortunately you didn't touch on the 33 cal... 338 win mag is my go to moose/elk round.

[@johnpoe8887]

I have a 50 cal brass case i found and bought at a gun show a long time ago, the guy said it had been resized and was ready to load, i bought it to use as a pen holder, i would be happy to give it to you as its just sitting in a box of other stuff that is unused.........

[@percyolivas1128]

good information, in this moment i only use 7.62 X54R mm and 6.5 x 55 mm (magnum is expensive for me)

[@richarddixon7276]

I have enjoyed every one of Your video's I have seen so far (Still trying to catch up !) You may think that We might find the subject tedious , I may be the exception . I have enjoyed this to be probably the most enjoyable so far . Shoot Straight stay safe & stay well .

[@zechnarwilliams8019]

I love your video's sir! Keep up the good work!

[@jbradley500]

The addition velocity of the "magnums" not only helps reduce drop at a certain distance, but to also keep the bullet speed high enough at the longer ranges for proper bullet expansion upon impact.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Very good and important point. Thanks for writing.

[@duggydo]

Nice display. I like how you took the time to adhere them to the board. That actually gave me an I idea for a Christmas gift. I am going to do something similar with a nice piece of Walnut and hot glue some cartridges into a hole at an angle to make a coat rack. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving sir!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - I like your idea. Thanksgiving is my favorite of all holidays. Every person on this good earth can be grateful - no matter what other differences we may have : ) I hope you are healthy and happy and wish you all the best. 🙏

[@jiveturkey9993]

I bet whoever gets that gift will dig the heck out of it.

[@MFitz717]

Very great video. I like the 7mm rem mag, I’m still looking for a 7x61 sharpe and hart, I passed one up 2 years ago, it was a custom Mauser. Magnums are hyped up, although my thought is that if you hit something with a magnum chances are it isn’t getting up. No 220 swift? I love both of the ones I own, I just have to be careful handloading that I don’t load it too hot and burn out the barrels. I’d like to go out west sometime for elk or something, was hoping to do that in the next year or two. Great video as always

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you and I'll make another video with more cartridges - such as the true legend : .220 Swift. I had a Ruger and still remember shooting at a can further than ever - and the Swift just breezed over there starting at over 4000 FPS - and hit that can - I saw it in the scope. The very best to you.

[@LoneWolf-zw5yn]

Nice presentation, might be worth noting that the 7x57 Mauser is the grandfather of most of those unbelted cases. Thanks

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You're right - I should have mentioned that. The 7x57 remains one of the best.

[@jimf1964]

Cool to see all those rounds on the table, and not just reading specs from a book, but I'm not sure why it was tittle about magnums. Funny you mentioned about the 30-06 being popular in Europe, because I use a store that imports second hand European stuff, and so many are in 30-06. I was always so surprised to see that.

[@jackbaker452]

270 short mag .best ever

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Jim and Jack - In my travels I never seemed to be very far from an '06 - no matter where I was. I learned that the cartridge is used and respected like no other, around the world.

[@axelsprangare2579]

6.5x50R reb is my favorite. Ultimate all round cartridge, barrel life and case life like a 30-30. Ballistics like a 6.5 grendel. Rimmed so it works in all actions. Precision like a 6mm PPC!!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Not many people know. : )

[@axelsprangare2579]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns 5.6x50R necked up to 6.5mm. 😀

[@redlock4004]

The 32ft you mentioned at the beginning of your very fine video is part of the rate of acceleration of something falling in a vacuum. A rate is is something over time. the rate of acceleration would be a speed or velocity over time. the speed is 9.8M/sec. (32.1FT/sec). That means something falling accelerates at a rate of 9.8 meters per second, per second. P.S. I was surprised at how many of these I had not heard of :) Thanks.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Redlock - the rules and ways of this planet never cease to interest me; sounds like you know a lot more - good on you. I'm still looking for all the Dark Matter in my basement 😂

[@tr6r71]

Did I miss the .338 winchester magnum or is that a bygone?

[@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888]

USOG wrote that "the .338 Win. Mag is tops as well." In my opinion it is a fantastic caliber and it is still popular for elk and dangerous game.

[@hawknives]

Awesome Video to help the Youngsters and also the seasoned shooters, planning their next build.! Keep the love of Guns moving forward! Christ Bless!

[@redsky8509]

another great educational video, thank you .......well okay if I must admit.....45/70 is another go to.

[@dazzad2136]

Great vid, but what about the 8mm rem mag. As a south african hunter it works beautifully on anything under Buffalo size, specially with a 200gr core bonded bullet.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Sorry for the Nit-Pick but did you mixed up the Carcano with the Arisaka? To my knowledge the Carcano only comes in "Roundnose".

[@heyitsaluigi]

Do you have a video of the seniauto rifle in your opening??? ❤️ to see a vid of that & similar comparison.

[@jmgates09]

My current 4 favs 7mm wsm 300 wsm 270 wsm 6.5 prc

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Can't go wrong with those.

[@MrPh30]

.338 Win Mag or .340 Wby with 300 grain is well known as perhaps one of the better medium cartridges also for having good reach and functioning on lare/ dangerous game. Very good jungle and shikarii combo.

[@herby375]

I would take the 338 win mag, great video please do more, Thanks!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You'd be right - great cartridge.

[@bp814]

Let me add one point. No use for "magnum" term? I do like that they specify it because of Primer selection. The Magnums I reload all take a hotter primer for better powder burn, or unsafe slow burns and it is called out by "magnum". So there is a good reason, to me...

[@tikkabrno]

At 8:50 you mention the 308 Norma Magnum, but the bullet diameter looks larger to my eye. You sure it's not 358 Norma Magnum sitting there instead? I have a 358NM and love it 👍

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Tikka - could be - I'll have a look. I had over a hundred boxes and cartridges in the studio : )

[@alexgavieres8293]

Yup, I noticed that, too. 358 or at least a 338. I only noticed because I recently bought a rifle in 338 win mag. Lol.

[@tikkabrno]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns you did well regardless. Choosing from over 400 cartridges 😆 Hopefully the take away for any noob is that a 30-06 (which I use on all deer here in Aus) is all they probably need to begin with 👍

[@Truesettingsun]

great job man, i nerd out on this kind of thing

[@TroopperFoFo]

I don't know if it has been said in the comment section here but that sabot 30-06 round that remington made was apparently discontinued because of the Governnent and propaganda of the time. They called them Assassin bullets because the projectiles didn't get rifling imprinted on them.

[@fSocko]

Is there any point to necking down cartridges besides making the action shorter (and headspace for a cartridge with no rim)? Is it all a question of making a smaller bullet go faster with more powder for comparably less space in the action or is there some speed increase in necking a cartridge?

[@gurmitsingh3120]

Book -Cartridges of World - is good reference. You are an encyclopedia.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Gurmit. 🙏

[@ReturnViewersGuide]

Thanks for the video

[@claytongoerlitz6250]

Last night I got a whitetail doe with my savage 340E .222 Remington, that gun has done nothing but drop deer in one shot

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Clayton - Congrats on the success and venison is on the way! I'm not sure there is a better meal than a venison roast with all the fixins!

[@claytongoerlitz6250]

Your right about that!

[@remnard1]

Gravity and physics of bullet travel was best described in the book of the rifle by Jim Carmichael. He stated if you take a Bullet weighing 180 grains and a 30-06 cartridge loaded with the same bullet and fire the bullet from a level barrel 36” from the ground, and at the same instant drop the bullet from 36” they will both hit the ground at the same instant. But the bullet fired from the rifle will be several thousand feet away from you.

[@jcmackenzie6387]

absolutely great video thanks for taking the time!! informative and fun! now gotta shoot a few haha compareables

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you JC - : ) range time is the best time - or hunting.

[@jcmackenzie6387]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns filled both my tags here in manitoba so long range fun till next season ;p

[@jimarcher7665]

Not related to this topic, but have You ever compared the capabilities of a new Savage Axis black gun to a more expensive Savage of the same caliber? wondering how groups compared

[@SuperLaplander]

Thank you sir!

[@pjford5254]

Unbelievable knowledge but I get the sense you don't like the .308? Keep them coming..............please

[@joelruder2857]

Great video! Could you do a video on varmint guns and cartridges. 22 hornet, 218 bee and so on.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Great idea Joel! Will do and Merry Christmas!

[@joelruder2857]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns merry Christmas to you as well!

[@williamdecormier7894]

The 300 Sav was intended to duplicate the .308 not the .30-06

[@airbornesoldieramerica7125]

For someone that is a hunter realistically all is needed is just only up to 3 or 4 different calibers for any animal in North America or in the world, and that is also depending on what type of terrain a hunter is hunting in, besides restrictions of calibers and guns in some area's and in some states. But it is people like myself that love guns and calibers is why there has to be hundreds and thousands of different calibers out there.

[@duanehensley8835]

Cool video. I believe you might have made a mistake when you pointed to what you called a "300 Norma Magnum". It looks to me like the 350 Norma Magnum and not a 300 Norma Magnum. The give away is the bullet diameter looks significantly larger than the 30 caliber right next to it.

[@danielleclare2938]

More importantly in the case of .30 cal magnums they can drive 200+ grain bullets deeper on big or dangerous game, especially in colder temps when all ammo suffers loss of pressure. Not just for far shooting. The big bore stuff is for the Africa Guns where hippo's are. Double rifles are in their element when stalking the big stuff they want to drop it in it's tracks so get as close as possible and hit em with both barrels. Again not about long range. Great presentation!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Good points Daniel - I know you are right. For all the splendor of velocity - nothing defeats mass; yet velocity buys a little time to travel a little further. I tend toward getting closer and using a bullet that does not have to be perfect - because it has mass. Thanks for the message.

[@jiveturkey9993]

Excellent presentation. That took a lot of brainpower to put that together.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Bill : )