Magnus says he will not play Classical World Championship again

[@dailydoseofchessclips_]

4:28 is when he says that

[@DOA13]

mvp

[@tokyosmitsubishi]

@@DavidJohnson-ju6ruwhat format is that?

[@benyahun]

This guy demolishes the competition and then goes like i dont think i played that well😅

[@prbprb2]

With the advent of the great chess bots, this is completely possible. Magnus can examine the games and look at all the inefficiencies that existed, even when he wins. Probably he thinks he played much better than his opposition, but that he could easily have played even better.

[@NoBatteriesLOL]

Yeah stockfish 16 goes crazy

[@iamh95]

He was like, neh, it was just 40 percent of my power level.

[@ianerickson2210]

Will u play in a World Chess Championship. Magnus: "With the current length of the games, I don't think so"

[@haroldcruz8550]

Classical Chess can be very arduous, 6 hrs of laser focused concentration. Since he already achieved very few GMs was able to achieve, I think Magnus is in the stage right now where he just want to enjoy playing chess.

[@bergrugu]

​@@haroldcruz8550no. Every chess player loves to lose themselves in tons of lines for hours. The problem is that the amount of preparation you need to study before the event is insane and mostly since there are engines most openings can be led to draw endings and so there is no more room for the human part. That's why Magnus always play side lines that are considered slightly worst, because at least that way he can take them out of preparation and play human vs human but that's not fair because he needs to put himself in a worst position than the opponent

[@haroldcruz8550]

@@bergrugu There is a big difference between playing chess for hours for fun and to win a tournament. There are interviews that I watched and read where GM always confess how stressful and taxing Classical Chess tournament can be.

[@aminesosa8676]

@@haroldcruz8550 in Paul Morphy's days poeple were playing a game for days. Two players having all the time in the world to think in a chess game to show us who was thinking in greater depth is incredible while creating masterpieces that will go down in history!

[@minigooshey]

@@aminesosa8676 That was like 150 years agos. Chess has evolved a ton since then and especially since computers got involved. Now to play classical at the highest level, you HAVE to study hours and hours of opening prep because there's a certainty that everybody is doing that. It's a very different playing field than it was back in his day. The stakes are also pretty high these days as prizes are getting bigger and the playing field is vastly stronger overall.

[@youtubeps5476]

Magnus seems to be in better physical shape than some weeks ago, maybe one reason for his decent results after Norway chess.

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

Yeah he's looking swole in that Puma ad

[@johnnyhartley4330]

Good old Tania, always on the ball. He drops the bombshell he won't be playing Classical World Championship again, she immediately starts talking about paddle tennis.

[@edgunther8136]

She is the worst commentator in history

[@chiborlawzidz6683]

​@@edgunther8136LOL.

[@christiancamblor6298]

Looking Magnus hair we realize that he's becaming a viking.

[@leolyndo2010]

Magnus plays games 99% accuracy and only loses one game then goes “I didn’t play that well this tournament”. -me who does the scholar’s mate and gets hyped. Lol

[@aminesosa8676]

Suspicious! and online too! plus he wasn't even tense during the games! very very sus!

[@khaledali3218]

@@aminesosa8676 nah bro he sometimes even plays better than the quick analysis of stockfish, and it's not just the prep but that man has an immense understanding of the game, so you probably wouldn't understand, and so is the rest of us

[@aminesosa8676]

@@khaledali3218 He should be banned from chessdatkam and all the top events, How can he play this well? AND WASN'T EVEN TENSE DURING THE GAME! also he had the black pieces and still won!!!

[@Miguel-ug7rq]

*Will not play WCC if time control stays the same

[@anujshastri1458]

I mean he enjoys playing Chess to his liking, so can you really blame him for not joining the race for WCC? He's just having fun, doing drunk streams, destroying others in TT while he's partying with Botez sisters and just experimenting along the way. And now that he doesn't have the title, he can do as he please. Ding became WCC and let me ask you, what really changed? Ding and Nepo have lost so many games already, they do not exhibit the same domination Magnus and Hikaru are capable of. It's not like Magnus hasn't lost games, but you know when he's in the mood for the game, his domination comes right through. The tournament he played after he was playing Poker, he played terribly and he admitted that he needs to get in touch with his roots again after staying out of touch for so long, but after that, he's shown what he always has been capable of. Classical Chess is too long and gets boring, everyone would agree, most of the games end up being a draw and you can see this in the current ongoing Women's WCC too. Rapid, Blitz and Bullet are more entertaining for people to watch and learn from. Let's not forget, the WCC between Ding and Lepo was ultimately decided by Blitz after they drew in the Classical games, so what really was the point of it all?

[@london507]

He sold all his assets and now he is just living to enjoy life

[@johnwest7993]

As should we all, if we had any assets.

[@Cartman5101]

1:1

[@akashsinha-rn5nu]

Really

[@komasaeufer]

What does he mean by "lenght" of the games? Is it that the whole format takes too long or does he really not like each single game taking, idk, 6 hours or so? Or reformulated: What format would he prefer? Kinda sad that he lost the drive for the title. I had a hope that playing poker and partying with the Botez sisters may at some point make him rethink his decision to abandon the Classical World Championship ("What am I doing here?"), but he seems happy, and that's what's important.

[@edibtw]

He doesnt like that 1 single game takes up to 6-7 hours as well as the fact that because of that, there are not enough games to play to show who is the chosen one for the title.

[@noambitton7264]

i think he just a has a beef with fide

[@mikesmithz]

Are you joking? Who wouldn't be happy partying with the botez sisters?!?

[@sashirmunoz3780]

@@mikesmithz Everyone who is not a SIMP.

[@Zeb369]

@@mikesmithzthey seem quite loud and annoying. I’d avoid them

[@mpw621]

If Magnus had a worthy challenger then maybe he try to regain the Championship.

[@anewfuture]

The world championship needs Magnus, but Magnus doesn't need the world championship. Ding is the current world champion, but like, nobody really seems to care. Kinda shows that the world championship is somewhat of an outdated title. We all acknowledge Magnus is the best in the world.

[@jmgutierrez962]

Magnus is a monster right now! I think the only way he lost is because of a blunder. Wesley had some shakey moves apparently.

[@Ty-dk6qu]

There is more skill in games that are shorter than an hour. At the grandmaster level with so much knowledge and preparation, the time you get makes most games end in a draw for classical finals. But when you're forced to think quicker it really shows who the smarter and more skilled players are overall

[@CeRz]

Yes, I agree, and all of this can be formulated in a simple mathematical expression: raw intelligence/skill = intuition >> calculation

[@aminesosa8676]

It doesn't show who's smarter, it shows who knows more (knowledge battle) there is no creativity in it, unlike classical chess! you can dig really deep in the position and create a masterpiece.

[@williamshake7559]

Only true for Rapid which is not too short and not too long. Which is why Ding Liren is our true Best in the world, as he is number 1 in Rapid.

[@TheNameOfJesus]

@4:32 - so he doesn't like the current length of classical chess. Does that mean he thinks they are too long or too short? I really don't know what he meant here. Are there other GMs who agree with him?

[@Cavamiva8]

He thinks it’s too long. He loves playing shorter time controls because there is a lower chance of a draw, classical chess at the super gm level almost always ends in a draw which makes it quite boring for a lot of players.

[@haroldcruz8550]

Well Magnus already achieved his dream of making a mark on the world of Chess, it's hard to motivate yourself to grind it for hours upon hours to get what you already have. I think it's simply what it is for Magnus, he just want to enjoy playing chess.

[@TheNameOfJesus]

@@Cavamiva8 Okay, thanks for answering one of my questions. Now, are there any other GMs who agree that classical chess should have shorter time controls? Or is Magnus alone?

[@Cavamiva8]

@@TheNameOfJesus More super GM's start to want shorter time controls, but if we're talking about World Chess Championship level players (top 5 players in the world) then no, because the only way they stand a chance against Magnus is in classical chess (because of the fact that mostly goes into a draw so more chance to get 1 lucky win and then win the event). Magnus is unbeatable in every chess mode except classical, because in classical all the top players never make mistakes since they have so much time so games always end in draw.

[@TheNameOfJesus]

@@Cavamiva8 Now that was interesting. I've always understood that the different durations of chess games constitute a "different game." For example, running a marathon is very different from running 100 meters, even though they are both "running". So basically you're saying that Magnus is like a runner who can always win at short and medium length runs, but not always win at long distance running. Even classical chess is a form of speed chess, because originally there was no clock for classical chess, and games could last 10 hours. Clocks were invented only about 150 years ago, however I'm unable to determine when chess clocks were implemented at a real world championship. I know that the "increment" part of a clock was only added to world championship chess in 1992.

[@jaihind7687]

Yes 14 matches ,a day long who is interesetsd😊

[@raylopez99]

If you don't play classic chess you cannot be called world champion. However MC has played classical to become world champion, so it's OK if he retires from classical.

[@Philopantheon82]

Magnus is just too quick, and I get that he will easily get bored with waiting for 30 minutes or so until his opponent made a move that he predicted in more than 4 or 5 lines, I mean alphazero and stockfish are quick thinkers for a reason and we already seen Magnus playing guys like Fabiano or Nepo at almost 99% accuracy in a blitz game. The man is a computer with emotion. Yes, I repeat, classic might still be a good arena for people's like Ding who still want to grasp more hindered depth of chess, but my man Magnus is already diving deep for decade.

[@iamh95]

Magnus is now experiencing the curse of Saitama.

[@Belnick6666]

he is worth xx millions USD and complain about a slow laptop? lol buy a new one? and if it is internet, just buy a better connection lol

[@stagna1959]

Only handful players in the world know what World Classical Championship means.And they tell horror stories about it. It is exhausting, few months of annoying and hard preparation work, then match, and then player has to recover from the match. At least 6 months of your life it takes. Spassky said, every W CH match ( prep, match and recovering period ) took almost year of his life, he played 3 matches and lost 2 of them . His matches were longer than nowadays, but still it is very hard period of players life. No wonder Carlsen who played 5 matches does not want to do it again, go thru all the pain and suffering. He already had it all and won it 5 times. At this point 6th title is not so desirable any more. For Nepo, Caruana, Firuzja, perhaps even for Nakamura the first title is very desirable. We`ll see what happens in next W CH cycle and who wants it . Looks like Carlsen wants to live more relaxed life. To play tournaments, have fun, occasionally stream. If he wins, it is fine, if he loses, it is not the tragedy.

[@ericb7937]

Classical chess should be renamed, "theory chess" and a new format should be used

[@j0tt0]

Chess 960 should be the future of long time format imo

[@valiantwarrior1988]

@halokoko7638 others have too but not as heavy as in classical chess.

[@Myth1fyThis]

Magnus is one of the goats if not the goat but based on his classical play lately, I don’t think he could become classical champion again.

[@edddavids]

To be honest, classical chess had never been mainstream. And this is probably the beginning of the end for the classical competitions.

[@maknavickas]

Got to be annoying as the better and more famous player to have to play against lesser players who have been studying for months just to beat you. I could see how that could take the fun of the game away. You need a lower time constraint to find the best player and not just the best player at doing homework.

[@bubsadoozy]

Until titles are acquired through another format Classical will always be the focus for the players. Classical's future might just involve shorter time controls.

[@raylopez99]

@@maknavickas Or not. MC uses book in short time format games too.

[@haroldcruz8550]

Classical Chess isn't going anywhere, Classical Chess has it's place. It is where a player's knowledge and mastery of the game is really tested.

[@krishsingh6994]

but still some classical matches are insane still can't forget game 6 btw magnus and ian that was the real beauty of chess what a game that was

[@miraj0072004]

Tania should be banned from commentary...such cacophony

[@shamsursagor293]

Her commentary is annoying.

[@imdanielmartinez]

ong fr fr

[@aminesosa8676]

Forgot about "Diversity is our strength" ? she wont be banned, you're going to hear her commentating until chess get solved 😂😂

[@AlexRochette]

Rensch is so out of his depth among those commentators. 😂

[@AmericazGotTalentYT]

hey he's only 30 peak elo from Tania

[@janesjanes4553]

I think hes scared of the other players and how they beat him in classical a lot.

[@diegogarcia7009]

Magnus being scared? Be f fr

[@janesjanes4553]

@@diegogarcia7009 maybe he's not but he hasn't won recently in classical

[@sachinkumar-rk9df]

@@diegogarcia7009 he lost to fabi in classical recently without a fight

[@taliesine.8343]

@@diegogarcia7009He has lots of self doubts. Lex Fridman made a very nice podcast episode with him where we would learn really a lot about Magnus. He admitted, that the main reason he didn't want to defend his title was, that he is terrified of losing. The process of prepping for a classical world Championship is brutal, takes up a good chunk of a year and then at the end, there is still a chance he would loose. Because the games are so close, he wants FIDE to have more games so the larger sample size can create a more clear winner. I really recommend that episode. I was also really surprised, that fear played such a large part in his decision

[@talesamaral3744]

Source? Timestamp?

[@jiggs8073]

Because he knows he can't win

[@corybrown8422]

His peak rating of 2882 is the highest in history. He also holds the record for the longest unbeaten streak at the elite level in classical chess. Yea he would suck at it. lol

[@Nimloth333]

yeah, sure. lol

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

Yes, the highest rated player of all time and 5x world champion can't win. Sure.

[@Nyxyz999]

Open your mouth. Swallow this 💦

[@asgasgasfasfad]

Just boring as hell the games can be 6-8 hours and for what? his 6th title?