The Magpul Bottom Line - TMAG vs PMAG

[@insanitypepper1740]

You're going to create a commercially affordable digital Halo style round counter. Come on Magpul, you know you are.

[@MapleHillMunitions]

And FAL mags.

[@jakegrube9477]

round counters have no practical use for rifles and handguns, theyre a novelty

[@Milspecpoptart]

If you build it, nerds will come... You looked.👌

[@FelineInTheTreeline]

@@jakegrube9477oh watchout we got an battlefield expert over here

[@cbulldog22]

I would empty my wallet immediately lmao

[@PolenarTactical]

Almost forgot to mention the fourth and most important reason for TMAGs! 3:21

[@petesheppard1709]

Yep, ya gotta look cool!

[@davidwithers7181]

Love the transparency, thank you!!!

[@cbulldog22]

Lmao nice

[@shadowblade232]

Take your like and get out lol

[@Florida_Marine]

When did you come out of the closet? This is 0 innovation. Ask more from your gun companies. This is fucking lame. Ask me how many times I checked my translucent magazine in Afghan.

[@cameronh5442]

Pretty cool deep dive. Do I need one? - No. Am I going to buy one - absolutely.

[@jarrodpurcell9061]

Already have two on order

[@Rubeless]

Guess you should get a clear grip and clear mags for your pistols too…

[@cameronh5442]

@@Rubeless That sounds amazing

[@PrecisionDan]

Just one?

[@gorillaump5869]

Yuuuuuuuup!

[@onionhead5780]

I appreciate Magpul being innovative in the firearm industry. Thank you for not settling and always moving forward with and improving new and existing products.

[@IPWNUinRL]

The “no MP-5 pmag frownie face” troll shirt is hilarious, well played😂

[@Raftjumper07]

I learned a lot from this video- Thank You! It puzzled me why it took Magpul so long to bring a translucent AR mag to market. No small accomplishment. I’m glad they stuck with it.

[@SOTB69]

Clear polymers are hard to make not shit, i.e. dogshit lancer mags

[@Florida_Marine]

::Lancer has entered the chat:: “You know this has already been done, right?” I think anyone could sell you anything.

[@Rubeless]

And they make no sense

[@mattmurphy7030]

@@Florida_Marineexcept lancer is garbage

[@TheDesertSpear]

​@@mattmurphy7030Lancer > Pmag all day

[@Mrgunsngear]

Need some TMAGs in my life now...

[@billstone21]

Here i thought the 25 or so PMAGs i had were enough. Nope. Need some TMAGs too, clearly.

[@timrobinson6573]

Based off of your previous career you prefer T girls not T mags

[@Florida_Marine]

God, you would take a D in and A for anything, wouldn’t you. You’re such a cheesy doosh.

[@drywallman1986]

They're ok. I got 1. Loads like like the other ones.

[@mattmurphy7030]

@@billstone2125 pmags? You need to like…quadruple that number

[@KinoTechUSA69]

Please bring back OD Green mags

[@trevor894]

Fr

[@mattmurphy7030]

Spraypaint is so hard to use

[@gorillaump5869]

Yes, bring OD back!

[@johnchristian1205]

Yes, I've been saying this for a while now

[@magnusskipton7067]

3:19 this translates to “you annoying M’fers just wouldn’t shut up about wanting the old crappy 20 round straight pmags back so we wanted to give you guys a different toy to distract you like how bait and switch a baby.” Also straight 20 round gen3 Tmag when? Lol

[@PoppaWheelies]

I’ve been using 10 rounders for a while , a 20 would be great !

[@magnusskipton7067]

@@PoppaWheelies you do know a 20 round pmag is currently in production right?

[@MrCirqueMaudlin]

@@magnusskipton7067 yea but its not straight .....the old school is the best cool

[@magnusskipton7067]

@@MrCirqueMaudlin exactly, poppa here sounds like he wasn’t aware there is a current (massively uncool) 20 rounder

[@FLmanAzonehit]

Well said. On top of that, yes!

[@Joseph-kw1kb]

25 round 308 Tmags inbound?

[@Rushifell]

I used the TMag bodies for my 9mm Endomags so I can clearly see that they are 9mm converted mags, it works beautifully.

[@APHawk]

I was thinking of doing the same. Thank you for letting me know it works.

[@Rushifell]

@@APHawk There is a little nub at the top of the rail in the front of the tmag that the endomag will have to pop by, but it is already cut out to accomodate it and should just pop right in. At worst just give it a little push. If you look at the body of the tmag after pulling out its guts youll see what i mean and where the endomag is designed to accomodate it.

[@APHawk]

@@Rushifell Nice. Thank you very much for that.

[@skylinefever]

I thought of whether or not this is possible the day the Tmag was announced. Thanks.

[@sabrinaEvo]

“Magpul TMAG is your clear choice.” I see what you did there 🤔😆 Appreciate the explanation!!

[@joemomma8287]

I hope they make a clear rear plate for D60s or D60s with a clear rear plate!!

[@Rubeless]

Yeah, be awesome with your bump stock…

[@marcusborderlands6177]

​@@Rubelessbump stocks are stupid, get an frt or a super safety. Super safeties are ~100 bucks and give you 3 positions and feel the same as FA.

[@FireFighterChen]

Bump stocks are fun, so are FRTs and SS.

[@ShadetreeArmorer]

AMEN

[@billstone21]

TMAG is the smoke clear Nalgene for boolets.

[@crownroyal2248]

This is a great presentation. I have so many PMags that I don't have the space or need for any TMags. The crazy part is that I just learned the features of the PMag by watching this video about TMags.

[@TrackSol]

Now it’s time for translucent furniture.

[@xj53pq7]

We goin 1997 up in this bitch. Give me a translucent ACR

[@TrackSol]

@@xj53pq7 I’m all for it!

[@il0917]

need me some atomic purple Nintendo 64 furniture now

[@DeltaSierra0605]

TRANSPARENT SIGHTS

[@FireDrillNinja]

Finally an AR that will match my game boy!

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

I primarily use stainless mags, but a few people online have said (and shown) that the EndoMag 9mm conversion internals still work with the Tmag so i'll certainly grab a few when i see them in a store just for that project.

[@waterishdrake8693]

The main benefit is after you win a gunfight, you can swap your Tmag, in the middle of your Tbag

[@ravenovatechnologies6554]

I was on the fence but you've convinced me sir. I HAVE to get one!

[@ZPHYR-gx1gt]

I’ve tested all generations of the Pmag in long-term storage and the GEN three with the Ranger clips are the best way for long-term storage to take the spring load off of the feed lips absolutely love your guises. I’m definitely gonna pick up a few of these team not kind ofsounds like teabag lol

[@dbmail545]

I have always mistrusted translucent polymer magazines. UV resistance is my main concern even though it seems to be less of a concern irl.

[@SHOTRED555]

As far as what I used, the T Mag is cool I would say the color spring should be something like red or orange instead of white because you can barely see the white indicator.

[@justme_gb]

Have you tried nail polish?

[@Mirska1]

Really tells how long this development has been going when travis haley and chris costa were running prototype translucent pmags in 2009

[@AJohnSmith]

Who?

[@TriggaTrey361]

Magpul is a great company

[@teamstucker624]

Bring back the sand color that almost white mag was fun to dye in my own choice of colors.

[@AJohnSmith]

Apparently, the colors can affect the strength of the polymer in colder conditions. FDE feed lips busy more than the black ones according to Alaska stationed guys.

[@teamstucker624]

@@AJohnSmith As long as you keep the temperature below 190 there's no issues. I work with polymer and rubber temperature is the main thing that changes the product the most

[@TriggaTrey361]

@@teamstucker624here in Texas it’s 190 all the time

[@FT4Freedom]

It's really pleasant listening to this guy.

[@williamle8300]

Curious to hear Lancer Systems reactions to the assertions made here.

[@TrackSol]

Lancer resorted to using metal feed lips.

[@xj53pq7]

I think it’s a red flag that the mpx and cz scorpian originally had clear mags and then transitioned to opaque black ones. The mpx specifically used clear lancers

[@0zmose]

@@xj53pq7 I have a bunch of clear MPX mags, as well as a ton of 5.56 Lancer mags. Been beating on them for years now with no issues. I don't get this weird mentality that only one company can make good polymer mags.

[@ShadetreeArmorer]

@@xj53pq7 that might be more cost and production capacity driven, my clear MPX magazines work great. The magwell of the MPX was originally designed to accept caliber conversions for 10mm and 45acp, so the 9mm magazines end up being really beefy. Mine have survived mostly fully loaded drops in USPSA and hit factor matches just fine. Lancer isn't as big of a shop as Magpul so their ability to keep up with production demands is also an issue.

[@noise117]

my lancers feed more reliably in my assortment of ar15 magazine accepting 5.56 rifles, the thinner feedlips allow for better feeding. pmags can never be quite as reliable because of that. ive bent a few lancer mags, but i bent it back and still functions better than pmags. pmags are the most reliable all polymer mags i've used, yeah, but they feel vastly outdated. lancer figured out long ago that the pros for transparent mags far outweigh the few cons, with the mix of reliable feed lips, there's no question until a better product comes out.

[@jdodd06]

Such a great video to help make an informed purchase. A+ on this one.

[@SpyderWebbX]

Can't wait for the translucent AR furnitures

[@josephmetcalf766]

FAL mags would be nice. T mag for now is cool though.

[@Rubeless]

For the east side boys in SL

[@elektro3000]

Magpul FAL mags would be like mana from the heavens for FAL shooters.

[@MatterMadeMoot]

Appreciate the transparency (ahuhuh) about the design process. Good stuff.

[@tomhollins9266]

You made interesting something I didn't care one whit about. Excellent presentation and excellent presenter.

[@stevemendez3535]

Y’all need to put this on a podcast form like Spotify even on Amazon podcast because there are way too many ads pop-ups

[@tiiiimmmmmm]

Wait a minute.. Is that a mp5 pmag on your tshirt??

[@Mandalore6311]

Came here to point that out. Those are clearly Magpul selector levers. That was my big hope with the AMAG, that it would be successful enough for Magpul to go after other metal mags with silly prices

[@RIpped_407]

​@Mandalore6311 ever used a 3d printer? The medium used to create your product (your cad file) determines its durability and lifespan. There are cheap polymers (your cads break easily) and there are more expensive durable stronger polymers. That hold up much better. Then add to the fact you have to add more expense i to making the more expensive polymer a clear medium while retaining it's durability and strength. If price is your concern. Just purchase a good ole pmag. Serves the same purpose. Is the tmag a novelty of sorts.. sure but in reality so is every other new,in,hip,now and wow item you can clamp or bolt onto your AR platform all pushed onto the masses by youtube university. 😂😂😂

[@Mandalore6311]

@@RIpped_407 I do have a 3D printer. And thank for the info, but I'm not sure you read my comment. I'm talking about the Magpul AMAG, their metal P320 magazine. Not the TMAG or any other polymer magazine. A lot of people got excited when the AMAG came out, since there are a lot of metal magazines that are way more expensive than they should be. Like MP5 mags, which the OP and I were talking about. Looking carefully at the shirt, it does look like a PMAG patterned MP5 mag. I don't care what it's made out of, I trust Magpul to do it right.

[@RIpped_407]

@@Mandalore6311 gotcha. Yes a decent alternative to a factory mp5 mag would be stellar. Yes I misread .

[@mikepeterson9362]

Well, I do appreciate the transparency. (Oh please, please give me a like for the dad pun.....)

[@_SKDK_]

Patiently waiting on the hk version 👀

[@xdfanatic]

after all this time you finally found a material that works good. I am still surprised because I talked to magpul about this 10 years ago and I was told it was probably never going to happen. I guess I can get rid of all my lancers now.

[@jeremiahhook3001]

Much appreciation for quality work for a good price! ❤ I love my tmags and pmags

[@jeremywills9303]

So I assume the CMMG 9mm conversion inserts I use in standard Pmags would work in this new Tmag? I might be interested just to show off those red lipstick150 grain Syntechs I love so much.

[@nobodyspecial1852]

You forgot to say kiss of death

[@benjaminnevins5211]

When is the TBAG coming out?

[@melissasmess2773]

🔫🤣👍🏻💯🔥

[@j.crizzle8942]

IDK, it’s up to the DBAG in charge, so….?

[@ALRinaldi]

I remember some of the early prototypes in Stickman’s old photos back in the early days. Glad to see they’re out now!

[@jonathangifford2268]

I appreciate this transparent video!

[@markb9892]

Any plans for a 20 round TMAG?

[@frehsej1]

You already need to fix the T-mags, in a full mag the second round in can start to over ride the first and won't insert on a closed bolt. You need to bring back the groove on the inside of the mag that sits along the case wall and prevents the the problem under the flex of the feed lips.

[@jonathanpark7658]

How many rounds are in the mag? Sounds dumb but people sometimes put in a 31st round and it causes issues. If this isn't your issue, disregard.

[@coreysharp9794]

What kind of out of spec rifle are you running? These fit anderson, psa, aero, springfield, and sig loaded on closed bolt all day.

[@frehsej1]

Its 30 rounds and has the problem.

[@frehsej1]

@@coreysharp9794 its one of the ones you listed.

[@coreysharp9794]

@frehsej1 it's hard to believe you then. Even harder when you won't even say which one and provide a short clip of this happening. You know what heresy is right?

[@ryanhilton9401]

I noticed these do not come with the clip-on top cover like gen M3 PMAG’s (even though they fit on them). Is there a reason for that? It seems to me that there would be even more of a need to keep a cap on these when stored loaded to keep tension off of the (more fragile) feed lips.

[@Neil.Anblomi]

That’s not what those caps are for. 🤣

[@ryanhilton9401]

@@Neil.Anblomi please enlighten me then

[@Neil.Anblomi]

@@ryanhilton9401 Go read the fuckin product description and enlighten yourself, dude. Jesus Christ people are so fuckin lazy. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@timrobinson6573]

I read the product description and copied it for you: " ​​​​Supplemental Impact/Dust Covers for the 5.56x45 PMAG® 30 AR/M4 GEN M2 MOE® magazines (MAG570 and MAG571), designed to minimize debris intrusion and protect against potential damage during storage and transit." You were wrong yet so confident. You are the definition of a midwit. Also, I assume you're not a 12 year old girl, stop using emojis to communicate. @@Neil.Anblomi

[@Neil.Anblomi]

@@timrobinson6573 k 👍🏼

[@wildcat8598]

These are awesome. Now if we can just get them in stock regularly that will be nice. Especially the green ones.

[@christinepearson5788]

I miss my OD green mags, I have different loads in Tan and Black, have to spray paint gen 3 mags (that's not easy in winter). The over insertion stop is a big deal when 250lb construction dude has flash back and slams new mag into well like someone is still shooting back. I've over ridden mag catch and bent issued aluminum feed lips. I want a few Tmags yesterday.

[@NovemberDelta]

Ahhh see what he did there at the end? It's a clear choice.... 👌 👏 bravo

[@bennyryan35]

Can we get an updated version of "Magpul art of" courses. I still get my DVD set

[@John_D67]

Great info, love the mags. Been blasting away, zero issues. PMAG is my go to hands down. 👍🏻

[@timsmith5837]

Excellent presentation, thank you

[@gunut4FMJ]

I dig the TMAG so far. Only thing I would change is to add a little bit more texture on the mag body. These things are slick when wet.

[@NickMaiers-hg3de]

Any plans for FDE 20rd 556 mags???????

[@kurtnewman7182]

Spray paint

[@brakefaded]

This is a great representation of honesty

[@MrOliverk2]

Except they aren’t addressing a known issue where Tmags won’t seat on a closed bolt. Many people have reported this

[@chaosrex5702]

Very informative video. Thank you.

[@iahawk36]

Can you PLEASE make the 300 BLK mags in FDE?!

[@glennk1429]

All my Tmags have feeding issues and cannot be inserted on a closed bolt. Can you please explain how that got past your attention to detail and rigorous testing?

[@lance9150]

Mine work fine. Maybe your gun is just fucked up.

[@frehsej1]

Same on my gun. The rounds start trying to occupy the same space and it won't feed into the gun. Unless you gently insert it, it won't insert.

[@glennk1429]

@@frehsej1 Yes, bullets are able to tilt up at feed lips allowing rounds to get side by side.

[@killacamfoo]

Same issue here

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Sounds like an issue with an out of spec lower that’s trying to over insert your mag

[@active4delta]

Very good video. Thank you for the info

[@Q..M]

When will they available at all stores 😅..

[@thrash7]

False. For years, we have been asking for not only tmags but also emags, 20 round straight mags and waffle mag maker.

[@coreysharp9794]

I'd love to hear your reasons why those should be produced.

[@Peterkass235]

@@coreysharp9794 because I would buy them

[@zebfox011]

​@@coreysharp9794he just wants to make waffles! He likes waffles and pancakes 👍

[@marcusborderlands6177]

Those are things they stopped making for a reason lol

[@brenton9492]

Magpul will never remade the Emags and straight 20’s anymore. The Emags has basically become the Gen 3 Pmag and Magpul even said themselves that the straight 20s don’t feed as reliable than the curved gen 3 mags. Not saying I don’t want them to reproduce these because Emags and the straight 20s look so dope but I don’t think Magpul would do this.

[@ericx777]

I'm saving up to get a few of these... I already have 50-some gen 1, 2 & 3 PMAGS so yea, why not? Also curious to see how they'll hold up with my Lancer's. Hey, here's an epic idea... DO A MOE SET (stock, grip, handguard) IN THIS TRANSLUCENT POLYMER! Think about that!

[@jeri_v2578]

I am once again begging for a rifle length SL handguard, it's time to update the old MOE version, come on guys please

[@nuyabiss]

Isn't clear or translucent polymer weaker. Wouldn't you be better off-putting some sort of hybrid feed lips?Or is that just too close to a lancer mag that point?

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Did you watch the video, he literally said they used a brand new material and that’s the reason they didn’t make them before

[@Serenityindailylife]

I saw a borosilicate glass magazine for a neutral boyancy ak once. The ak was made so it could be carried underwater and was weightless underwater.

[@breakerbreaker4990]

Thanks for this video and your natural speech. I’ m eager to test these. Is there a date of availability for the Western Europe market ? Thanks ! 🤙

[@LeeRobinson_TTU]

Incredible accomplishment and looks great. 6 ARC PMags next?

[@Rubeless]

Like getting a c in gym class, incredible accomplishment…

[@LeeRobinson_TTU]

@@Rubeless I’m just here for the 6 ARC PMags. Tmags and your C in gym class are irrelevant to me.

[@Bigfoothawk]

​@@Rubeless What have you invented?

[@autumnfragrance6326]

Perhaps a hybrid magazine design, where the box is translucent polymer and the feeds lips are metal would be better.

[@elektro3000]

Using this standard PMAG opaque polymer for the feed lips but adding carbon fiber woven mat reinforcement would probably be more effective. The problem with metal feed lips is choosing a metal that won't corrode and isn't likely to bend, while also not being too expensive to use.

[@60secondfisherman]

Need a 20 rd tmag!

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Also, why did y’all stop shipping the magazine covers with the m3 mags????

[@Adwrigh]

I would love to see this in clear translucent. And also available for the MP5!

[@AJ025]

Is there a plan for other types of Tmags? Such as ar10 and AK platforms?

[@Hybris51129]

8:24 If I may ask but looking at the front of the follower it looks like the TMAG like the Gen3 PMAG has a front rib running down the length of the inside mag body. Is that correct? I ask because I shoot .458 SOCOM and .50 Beowulf and because of that rib I have to use Gen2 mags and only 30 rounders at that. I hope one day to see a PMAG for the big bore market so I can load far more than 10 rounds.

[@swiftyuras1]

Please make a magazine for the Grendel/ARC class of cartridges!!!

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Can’t wait to get some, thanks

[@briancowan4318]

So a 'niche' question, is Magpul going to make a 30 round magazine (P or T) for the 350 Legend (or other 223 straight wall) cartridges?

[@spencer7197]

Love the transparency...I still want 20 round mags in FDE. Running out of spray paint lol

[@shaunybonny688]

When is magpie going to come out with a polymer AR monolithic lower receiver and stock?

[@abnr1983]

Is the material used similar to Ultem then?

[@jeremiahhook3001]

This is why I trust magpul for my mags and only magpul

[@killacamfoo]

They don't work on closed bolts. Ask me how I know. Please fix this.

[@nyrangeguy3194]

Can you elaborate?

[@killacamfoo]

@@nyrangeguy3194 kzbin.info89kc3kgf9-E?si=sKFaZDPaAN99yV5u @nyrangeguy3194 it's anything over 15 rounds in these that they don't seat properly on closed bolts. Have to slam them home and even then the mag release gets so stiff you have to hit it with your thumb to release the mag. Rounds start seating incorrectly.

[@killacamfoo]

@@nyrangeguy3194 KZbin deleted my comment with a link to a short about it. Search TMAG closed bolt and it will come up.

[@HoldingPreciousMetals]

Good job guys 🎉

[@True_Patriotx]

So what your saying is get 10 new Tmags and 20 new gen 3 pmags? Pmags have been awesome. I will definitely pick up some Tmags but keep the gen 3 pmag as my primary mag for training. Awesome.

[@mghegotagun]

Lets see some twenty round tmags, and g lock tmags

[@53Dizzle]

would love if you guys would make a hunter stock similar to your shotgun stocks but for the saiga sporter platforms

[@P-12]

Are you also going to make translucent Glock mags?

[@micromachinev4]

What about the sig 550 mags ? i have been using them for the last 8 years in the swiss military and have never seen them fail.

[@theHSPCproject]

Those mags are great because they were designed with the system from the ground up, versus trying to achieve the same performance in a more restrictive footprint that was designed around aluminum magazines

[@dbmail545]

They won't pass the spec he quoted, mostly because they are not as drop-rugged. There is a reason that the PMAG is preferred by so many users.

[@azalkathegunpowderdragon9439]

Cool Make a 556 AK mag, especially 45rnders

[@maintoe83]

@Magpul 20rd TMag in 5.56 in the future?

[@MPGunther1]

Been stocking up on some 40 rounders

[@CaptainCreampie69]

I just want to not pay $50 for an MP5 magazine. I already have 20 of them with 10 sitting in the original packaging as it is my favorite gun to shoot. A cheaper alternative with the same reliability of a PMAG would be awesome.

[@Sephiroth391]

Hello, are there any chances to AUG tmag in next couple of years?

[@swiftaudi]

When can we buy the fmg-9?

[@jessesimmons4503]

Off topic but what about a polymer AR lower receiver for a mass production WWSD type firearm.

[@timwilliam8045]

Perhaps reinforcing fibers in the areas that don't need to be translucent? Pmag on the ends, Tmag in the middle.

[@Earth_Care_Cowboy]

Do we get AK Tmags?

[@aaaaaa-lt2tl]

Im as happy about this as the paper bag in the right side background

[@p1lowboy]

I've had the same 20 window pmags for about 10 years now with only 1 failure.

[@mike93eh]

I have a few for sale. they dont work in my sport II. The mag catch is slightly different

[@ammoiscurrency5706]

When do we get a Magpul dedicated 6.5 Grendel mag

[@brianwoodcox9878]

“Because it looks cool as fuck” is a good enough reason, but I guess that other stuff is fine too.

[@Squimd]

Garsh dern magpul, you guys do some nifty stuffs.