Why did Turkey adopt the Latin alphabet instead of the Arabic alphabet?

[@bedrie9552]

0:19 is enough make the case. Three very basic and different Turkish words (rose/come/bald) become indistinguishable when transcribed with the Arabic alphabet. You have to guess the meaning from the context. Arabic alphabet is completely incompatible with the Turkish language.

[@SamAlQattan-p2h]

Only if you can't spell.

[@Yarluqaduq]

@@SamAlQattan-p2h I dont want to learn your alphabet to spell my languages words lol

[@jamiehope4580]

And yet the selcuk and ottomans used it fine for over a 1000 years abit more to it then calling it difficult when people can't speak properly to understand them these days

[@Yarluqaduq]

@@jamiehope4580 At seljuk era, turks were mostly nomadic and they didnt know to write or read. Only ruling class, statesmen and aristocrats knew how to use it. At ottoman era, nomadic or settled, rural Turk population under ottoman domain didnt know how to write or read. Only city people, ruling elites and religious class "used it fine".

[@İzmir_city_state_republic]

If some of you wonders meaning of words: Rose: gül [ɟyl] Come: gel /ɟɛl/, [ɟæl] Bald :kel /'cæl/ Fixed their pronounce

[@JFFaksiBey]

You are wrong because the origin of the Turkish language did NOT began with an Arabic script. Turkish began in the 8th century with the Ruinic Script in the Orkhon Valley in today’s Mongolia. Ruinic script is written vertically NOT horizontally, and read from bottom to top and right to left. Also, you did not mention that other Agglutinative languages are Hungarian and Finnish.

[@lonelywolf1480]

And you are right only partly. Orkhon scripts were the oldest known texts, that does not mean that Turkish language itself began with Orkhon scripts, which is of course way older.

[@Badger_IV.]

Id say the runic alphabet was used even before those stuff were discovered We Just dont know where to look

[@SelmaErdal]

Yüreğine sağlık olsun kardeşim; önyargılı cahiller sürüsüne ki onlar yalnızca ulusal alanda değil uluslararası alanda da milyonlarca sayıdalar, işte onlara gerçek Türk kimliğini, dilini, yazısını, yazıtını anlatmak gerek. Türkler'in Arap olmadığını onlara öğretmek gerek.

[@Lotusum2064]

👍

[@Lotusum2064]

​@we have oldest letters on the orhon obelisks!!! lonelywolf1480

[@康介-h5f]

I respect Atatürk from Japan.

[@hxlydimension]

Japan is the most beautiful country in this world. Respect Japan from Turkey^^

[@thief5]

@@康介-h5f Thank u bro love Japan from Turkey

[@Ahmad_55773]

Im misri and respect Mostafa Kamal also

[@thief5]

@@Ahmad_55773 thank u bro love Egypt

[@turktoyu1711]

I respect Japanese culture and people the most. Your moral values and how you hold onto them are amazing.

[@victoryever]

Atatürk’e teşekkür etmemiz gereken şeylerden biri de budur. Güzel Türkçemizin kurallarını bu alfabe ile en iyi şekilde öğrenip, öğretelim genç nesillere.

[@Badger_IV.]

Indeed, Ataturk saved yall from being devoured by arabs

[@lintahlou1555]

@@Badger_IV. How is this possible ? After the umayyad caliphate collapse arabs didnt show up till 1910s*

[@AitchD]

You are not a turk.. Real Turks look like Chinese people

[@Tighnariiloverr]

@@AitchD real turks looks like central asian not chinese

[@AitchD]

@Tighnariiloverr lo ke uygurs, who are chinese

[@Mehmetcan93]

“If one day my words contradict science, choose science.” M. KEMAL ATATÜRK

[@Pap294-j4l]

😂

[@picco_only]

Böyle bir söz yok salak

[@7-8-BaykutAbi]

😂 yaw he he..

[@balarisi4139]

❤

[@SignsBehindScience]

Was he a scientist? Lol

[@ugur4511]

When I look at the editions of many important books on sites like Goodreads, I almost always see the Turkish editions, but not the Arabic or Persian editions. More books are published in Turkiye than in 23 Arab countries plus Iran plus Pakistan. Even some important books do not have an English edition, which is a global language, but they have a Turkish edition. For example, Umberto Eco's approximately 1500-page ancient history books have only a Turkish edition, apart from Italian. The Turks have made great progress in general culture and literature, as they have in military technology. They are developing in every field.

[@orar6435]

If we are talking yearly production, Iran publish more books than Türkiye in recent years. Recently they passed so probably in total Türkiye published more, but they are narrowing the gap. And yes, every year, Turkey publish more books than all Arab countries plus Pakistan combined.

[@mehmetcagrdogan2753]

Might this be because Turkey is way more industrialized than those countries?

[@AitchD]

Who the fucking cares about reading sh*t in Turkish?? A very local language,,Arabic is international buddy

[@pouyajabbari3912]

​@@mehmetcagrdogan2753More industrialised than which country? Like name one literally.

[@mehmetcagrdogan2753]

@@pouyajabbari3912 From Pakistan to the Egypt and everything in between Turkey is the most industrialized country in MENA region. Industrialization isn't only production capacity or building big scary factories its more about a social order if anything. It's natural for this to happen also because Turkey received independence rather early compared to the middle eastern countries. Maybe Iran is up there with Turkey however im not so sure because its a complex and multifactorial problem.

[@AD-yq8rl]

Short answer: Phonetically, the Arabic script was not suitable for Turkish (since it is an agglutinative language (such as Hungarian or Finnish) and has lots of vowels). Therefore it was hard to learn it, which caused centuries-long illiteracy among the Turks. Atatürk, the first president of the Republic of Türkiye, wanted to increase the literacy level in order to modernize and empower his country. As a result, Latin script which is compatible with Turkish and easy to learn, was adopted in 1928.

[@emreyigit3404]

Indeed. Shoehorning a language that is known for its vowel harmony into an abjad is a recipe for confusion. In addition, all you have to do to understand the confusion in the rest of the letters is consider where the name "Ottoman" came from (hint: from Europeans who knew Arabic but not Turkish) and the utter confusion regarding the pronunciation of Ottoman Turkish inscriptions seen in many parts of things like Wikipedia.

[@moezmedia98]

Arabic alphabet works well with semetic languages but might be not suitable for other languages which I understand, it's best to do what's most effective even if it comes at the detriment of sentimentality

[@laurentdevaux5617]

And not only. Atatürk also decided to get rid of a lot of words of arabic or persian origin, replacing them by words from other origin, beginning with french

[@samsoom96]

Non-sense if this is true how can we explain that Arabs today are literate and have no problem learning the alphabet? The motivation behind the alphabet is clearly only racist

[@ulughank]

This is actually half correct. The main reason was the Baku Turkology Congress which issued the Common Turkic Alphabet, before this, the panturanist majoritt of the newly founded Turkish government was in favor of keeping the historic Arabic script

[@arielsergioramos]

This innovation has enabled Turkish to evolve in a better direction. The pronunciation of Arabic letters is quite difficult for Turkish.

[@In_Our_Timeline]

yeah but i still think it was a bad decision i like ataturk ok but he still was a flawed man he made many mistakes, this was one of them the Arabic alphabet was part of cultural heritage

[@arpe7045]

Nope. Islam is inseperetable element of Turkish society. Not the alphabet ​@@In_Our_Timeline

[@emreyigit3404]

@@arpe7045 Not even that.

[@Semilamist]

Ignore these two çomars as we call them, turkey is secular and we shall be freed from arabic taint

[@sekiptopcu7787]

@@In_Our_Timeline I am Turkish and was forced to learn the Ottoman script as a child in a religious course, which I hated. There is no correspondance between the Turkish sounds and those Arabic letters. The Latin alphabet that was adopted to Turkish corresponds to Turkish sounds 1-to-1, which makes it so easier for any Turkish person to learn. What Atatürk did was not a mistake but a monumental move in a pure linguistical sense.

[@bArda26]

probably one of the best reforms Ataturk put in place. The literacy rates went up quickly, people could actually read and write in a compatible alphabet.

[@Nusret15220]

lies

[@AA-jp9cj]

@@Nusret15220 No its factually correct. Do you mind sharing the literacy rate under Ottoman Empire? Didn't think so...

[@bArda26]

@@Nusret15220 the literacy rate before the adoption of latin alphabet was about 8%. In less than fifteen years, it went up to 20%. What about published books? More books were published in 15 years than in the last two centuries of ottoman empire!

[@AA-jp9cj]

@@bArda26 mal olum ne anlatıyoruz ki...

[@notter344]

forgetting your past and history just to get closer to the ones who made you fall?

[@thief5]

As a Turk I’m so happy for this reform, our father Ataturk made us come back to our roots, fixing our language. Now we are connecting heavily with other Turk countries. Love from Turkey to all Turk states/countries. We are all siblings. ❤🇹🇷🇦🇿🇹🇲🇰🇿🇰🇬🇺🇿❤️❤️

[@pouyajabbari3912]

Hmmmm actually latin is not your root.... Don't get me wrong Ataturk was great for many reasons, but westernizing the country didn't bring it back to it's roots.

[@NationsEviltwin]

Daddy ataturk is crazy 💀

[@thief5]

@@pouyajabbari3912 I never said Latin is our root. He removed all loan words almost and fixed the language as the folk was already speaking like that. He made people remember they are TURKS. He made us connect with other Turk countries.

[@thief5]

@@NationsEviltwin Cope lol

[@kamale.a3627]

​​@@thief5Mmmm... Not really, he threw to the bin many Persian and Arabic words used in the Turkish vocabulary for centuries and change them mostly to French, Spanish and Italian ones, which is funny because many Spanish words came also from Arabic so some words were changed from Turkish Arabic to Spanish Arabic words, also the Latin alphabet is not the root of the Turkish language, maybe is the way the promoted these changes on the language but I don't see it

[@Sekuler_Adam]

The fact that the Turkish states at that time used the Latin alphabet, that it was an easy alphabet integrated into the modern world and that it was compatible with Turkish was the biggest factor in our transition to this alphabet. One of the best revolutions is our transition to the Latin alphabet.

[@erosgritti5171]

That region was Roman for more than 1500 years, so it was normal to maintain the Roman alphabet.

[@ekesandras1481]

one thing they forgot to mention was typwriters. Try to write Arabic on a typewriter or even try to get such a typewriter. Or send telegrams, manage a railroad network, print books (you could easily buy a second hand printing press from Europe, where they were abundant; try to get such a thing with Arabic letters).

[@kasadam85]

​@@ekesandras1481Exactly lol

[@borakaraca9788]

5:04 "bizi cehaletten kurtaran ulu gazi var ol" "Long live the great ghazi who saved us from illiteracy"

[@İzmir_city_state_republic]

Fun fact: Ghazi means veteran

[@İzmir_city_state_republic]

Another fun fact: veterin means vet

[@Zeyneep_pp]

​​@@İzmir_city_state_republicsırf bu yorumun doğruluğunu araştırmak için dolabımın üstündeki Türkçe sözlüğümü alıp gazi kelimesinin anlamına baktım ama veteriner diye bir anlamı yok "savaşta büyük emekleri geçmiş askerlere veriler bir ünvan" işte anlamı bu 3 anlamı var ama hepsi neredeyse ayını sonuç olarak yanlış bilgi

[@İzmir_city_state_republic]

@@Zeyneep_pp veteran ingilizcede gazi için kullanılan bir kelime.

[@İzmir_city_state_republic]

@@Zeyneep_pp medyada "war veteran" kelimesinin american gazilerine kullanıldığını biliyom

[@SagucuTegin]

Ataturk was great leader of the 20 th Century.

[@DukeOfTheYard]

He was. What he managed to achieve (and the odds were heavily against him) is staggering.

[@magicmike97m]

He committed genocide after genocide. Wheres the greatness?

[@magicmike97m]

He is a mass murderer. Can never be great.

[@Abdullah-mh7eg]

لعنة الله اليه

[@StalkerX426]

@@magicmike97m what genocide? don`t make me laught, comrade. Do you have any good non-propoganda sources other than wikipedia (it is shit when it is comes to history)

[@marshmallow7713]

Arap alfabesi hiç bir zaman halkın alfabesi olamadı öğrenemedi ve Türkçe karşılığı zor harfler ama Osmanlı hanedanlığı için zengin bir alfabeydi ve edebiyatta da çok güzel örnekleri var

[@TurguhanAlp]

Kesinlikle Kur'an Kerimde arapça kelime olmamalı

[@stefano1005]

Turks don’t have alphabet 😆😆😆

[@alperalyaz]

Baya Türk dostu video olmuş. Pek alışık değiliz. Teşekkürler.!

[@Gefehhka]

Short Answer: Because it was the best and most rational decision.

[@nenenindonu]

Semitic scripts are among the least suitable for Turkic the syllabels and pronunciations are just so different yet Turks adopted it due to religious dynamics ideally they should've sticked to Uighur, Orkhon, or Issyk script

[@kkaixer]

Yeah, agree. Also, revisioned versions of those alphabets, right?

[@CortexNewsService]

Weren't they several centuries removed from the central Asian scripts? And I think those were being actively suppressed by the Soviets at the time of Turkey's establishment

[@SamAlQattan-p2h]

Yes. Semites being the most civillised people on earth and Turks being the least.

[@sibelshinaishin5170]

Very simple, the letters represented sounds from throat that were in Arabic were useless for Turks,since Turkish doesn’t have words with sounds coming from the throat, and some others on the other hand there are sounds in Turkish that doesn’t exist in Arabic language. It was a good decision. M.K Atatürk ruffled some feathers but by the time of his demise illiteracy was almost a thing of the past. God bless his soul we are grateful to him.

[@kevinyonan9666]

So how do you explain the Syriac alphabet being used for Mongolic-Turkic languages?

[@In_Our_Timeline]

i really thought that this video was going to be "aTauUK bAd" but turns out this was more educational and interesting, the research was top notch

[@oulawd6281]

seeing a person from pakistan say this really shocked me as a turk lol thank you

[@oulawd6281]

never mind i’ve seen your other comments and i take it back LMAO

[@emperorhadrian8440]

I sht on atarats grave​@@oulawd6281

[@harlowida]

@@oulawd6281Maybe you should broaden your horizon lmao. Stop living in cucu land

[@harlowida]

@@oulawd6281broaden your horizon bud

[@spartakos536]

I am Turk, and respect so much Father of Our Country (Ataturk). His reforms put Turkey into modern age literally. Specifically Turkey proceeded in science, industry and art with Ataturk's reforms and revolutions.

[@jaytoven7]

Erdoğan ruining his legacy

[@nikolaosspartakos5392]

spartakos (?) 536 are you turk ?

[@Turkic_Soul]

​@@nikolaosspartakos5392 Why not?

[@ahmetsalih857]

​@@nikolaosspartakos5392It is normal for someone praising Atatürk to use the name Spartakos, because Kemalists are Western wannabes.

[@ahmetsalih857]

Have we progressed in science and art?😂Don't make me laugh. Ataturk did not take science and technology from the West. He only imposed the culture and immorality of the West on the Turks.

[@randomperson1408]

Turkish has its own alphabet used during ancient times when Turks settled in Central Asia known as Göktürks, their alphabet being "Göktürk Yazıtı (Göktürk Alphabet)" which is pretty alike Latin or Greek or Cyrilic alphabets compared to arabic or Persian alphabets which is why adapting Latin alphabet over Persian-arabic makes sense for Turkey.

[@robertsugg280]

scientists shaped the Latin alphabet to nearly a perfect match to Turkish. The Arabic one was ill matched

[@7-8-BaykutAbi]

Biz latin alfabesi istemiyoruz, sadece savaşı kaybettik ve sizin ajanınız yönetimi ele geçirdi. Biz latin değiliz, ve latinlerin tarihinden ve kültüründen hoşlanmıyoruz. Kokuşmuş alfabenizden birgün kurtulmak umudu ile..

[@BayGrishnackh]

f'*** everything about arabs as a Turk

[@Yusufspider42]

@@BayGrishnackhcare to explain why instead of spewing blind hate?

[@pouyajabbari3912]

Just because latin alphabet is a better match than arabic doesn't mean it's a perfect match 😅 I would argue ruinic is better.

[@Yusufspider42]

@@pouyajabbari3912 i feel like ruinic would just make things more confusing

[@wazzup233]

Vietnamese language also adopted the Latin script from the Chinese script when they'd been colonized by the French in the 19th century and it became a huge success on adopting the Latin script in their language just like Turkish. I wonder if other non-Latin languages like Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindi, Arabic, etc. would also do the same thing as Turkish and Vietnamese but that would be complicated due to cultural and religious reasons.

[@ugur4511]

The situation of Vietnam and Turkiye is different. Vietnam was a colony of France. Turkey was never a colony. The decision to switch to the Latin alphabet belonged entirely to the Turks and it has a long history.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Koreans already use a pretty new phonetic script. So it would probably be possible but also pointless. Persian and Hindi would be 100% possible. They are both Indo-European languages and decently closely related to Latin. Japanese would probably be possible without too many issues. "Romanji" is already a thing. But their symbols simply have too much cultural significance, this will never happen.

[@fairybeliever4479]

China almost changed to Latin alphabet. When computers came about. China had a dilemma. Cause their language is character based and there was no way to type the characters on a computer. They did solve it, by copying their neighbors approach. I don’t remember which country it was that came up with the solution. It might have been Taiwan.

[@JolivoHY9]

not every language should switch to latin script. there are plenty of other prettier scripts in the world.

[@corvacopia]

Those are all languages that have scripts written for their Ms huave, Korean in particular has a very good phonetic script and abjads like the Arabic script just are a lot more efficient for Semitic languages (although there are Semitic languages that use the Latin script, like Maltese). I am less familiar with the others, but these are scripts that were made for the languages, it’s a very different dynamic

[@firefly9700]

Ataturk was a real visionary

[@Pap294-j4l]

And genocidal as well.

[@BayGrishnackh]

this days islamists like erdogan want to destroy what Ataturks did

[@BornvsMe]

Also a murderer of armenians. He is the leader of the armenian genocide

[@TurguhanAlp]

This man is seen as a devil by today's Islamists because of his forward thinking and solidarity in society.

[@firefly9700]

@TurguhanAlp Atatürk'ü sevmeyen herkes mal amk

[@jackperson3626]

Thanks!

[@Mahanology]

Thank you very much!

[@hamzaterzi8801]

So writing the Latin alphabet is extremely easy. You can understand what is written even from a distance. The Cyrillic alphabet might have been the second best option. I think Atatürk made a very good choice.

[@Umut35.]

❤️THANK YOU ATATÜRK ❤️🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@komizaloto]

Turkiyë 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🇸🇦💪💪💪💪

[@cowboyfritz2813]

Turks are Wannabe European, but Europe don't want you.

[@TurguhanAlp]

Turkiye is not arab but islamic are arab ​@@komizaloto

[@komizaloto]

@@TurguhanAlp ♥️♥️♥️♥️ تركيا بلد مبتكر رائع من المملكة العربية السعودية 🇸🇦♥️🇹🇷

[@last.journey]

بطل بقة انعدام الشخصية دة الناس دول حرفيا بيهجرو لغتك وثقافتك وهويتك عشان يندمجو مع الغرب عشان شيفينك متخلف وانت رايح تشجعهم علي دة ​@@komizaloto

[@Evlander-t6i]

actually Ottomans tried to change it as well since Suleiman a alphabet change was definite and in 1800s II.Mahmud choiced it Latin however they were'nt able to make this reform because there was also too many problems and it might make more problems as well

[@AugustusIV]

It should also be added that Turkish states convened a congress regarding the Turkish language in 1926. At this congress, a decision was taken regarding Turkish countries switching to the Latin alphabet. In line with this decision (and because of the items mentioned in the video), Turkey decided to change its alphabet. Turkish historians say that in the wars in which the Ottoman Empire collapsed, the commanders didnt understand each other's correspondence and therefore there were communication breakdowns, which shows how necessary this innovation was Another point i would like to add about the video is the claim that the language revolution completely separated the modern Turkish people from Ottoman history and literature. This is the thesis most frequently put forward by opponents of the revolution, but it isnt true. Let us remind you that the literacy rate in Arabic letters is below 5%. Even if there was no letter revolution, these texts would not be read. In addition, today's Turkish people would not be able to read and write. This isnt as big a loss as it seems. Because in Turkish universities, students of history and literature departments are taught Turkish (Ottoman Turkish), which is written with the Arabic alphabet. Another issue that historians mention is that the writings that entered the state archives in the 15th and 16th centuries could not be read in the 18th and 19th centuries. The difficult and cumbersome language caused problems even before the empire had dissolved. For this reason, there was an important reform movement especially during the 30th and 34th sultans (Mahmud II and Abdulhamid II) In summary, the foundations and justifications for this innovation that Ataturk was able to achieve are quite solid. Turkish nation is lucky to have a leader like Ataturk

[@Mahanology]

Thanks a lot for this helpful comment. Yes, there are many details and different aspects of this issue. Maybe we can delve into the details in the upcoming videos.

[@Serenay53]

iyiki latin albesini kullanıyoruz biz kuranı temel alarak arap alfabesi kullandık islamın etkisiyle ama kendi eski milli alfabemiz var

[@TurguhanAlp]

Keşke müslüman olmasaydı toplum gevurlar bile uzaya çıkıyor bizler yerin dibini kazıyoruz gömülmek için.

[@UjjwalKumar-f9i]

As an Indian, I feel proud that we have our own indigenous scripts for our languages that are completely distinct from any other scripts of world.

[@nuricomez]

We have certain sounds and the arab alphabet does not contain those. However, the latin alphabet is perfectly capable of scripting all Turkish sounds. For example: another name of Doner Kebab is ‘çevirme’ in Turkish ‘chevirme’ as there is no ‘che’ or ç sound in Arabic, they called it Shavarma. Arab alphabet is for arab sounds. Not suitable for Turkish.

[@itachi7285]

you mean "shawarma". They also don't have the "v" sound and we don't have the "W" sound.

[@harambifi5451]

The Ottoman script used the perso-arabic alphabet which contained such sounds. Also Enver Pasa introduced the that matched the turkish phonetics more.

[@whQQps]

In 1926, a congress was held in Baku with the participation of representatives from all Turkish states.. At this congress, the Latin alphabet was chosen as the most suitable alphabet for the Turkish language. The transition to the Latin alphabet was approved in all Turkish states, including those occupied by Russia at that time. After 2 years of preparations, the Republic of Türkiye switched to the Latin alphabet in 1928. Our transition to the Latin alphabet has nothing to do with the West. On the contrary, it's purpose is to ensure cultural unity with the Turkish Communities in the East.

[@anonym-pm6mj]

not really atatürk is known to be a bootlicker for the west

[@joseanfigueroa8785]

that makes no sense...

[@whQQps]

@@joseanfigueroa8785 This is history. Religions are makes no sense too but they are exists. if Turkish states were decided to use Gokturk alphabet at that congress, we were using gokturk alphabet now

[@joseanfigueroa8785]

@hakant.7242 No, your interpretation of history is absurd. Turkey clearly chose the Latin alphabet as a westernization instrument.

[@muzarisi]

​​@@joseanfigueroa8785That is correct. We stopped using Arabic because it was not suitable. And it is no shame to accept that we choose the Latin alphabet of all because it was mostly used by the west, which to us was more civilized, progressive and educated which is also what we aimed to be. Infact, it was not hidden at all that the reason why we choose latin for a more suitable alphabet was to be closer with the west but rather accepted and was told as one of the reasons behind us choosing it.

[@nenenindonu]

The language reform was a net positive and one of the many contributions Atatürk made to his nation today other Turkic states follow by ditching Cyrillic for Latin

[@kadirbozkus-ss3sm]

As far as I know, other Turkic states are perfectly fine and happy with cyrilic, they seem to be making this choice (an uncessary one, in my opinion) for political reasons İ.E distancing themselfs from Russia; aligning more with Europa.

[@laurentdevaux5617]

Romania did the same in the late 19th century, switching from cyrillic to latin, which indeed is much more consistent for a romance language

[@DehydratedDarkness]

​@@laurentdevaux5617It was a political decision though. Polish and Czech use the latin script (Slovakian went extinct and was artificially revived, so it doesn't really count here) because of political reasons. Polish was notoriously hard to transcribe to a latin alphabet, at some point having a proposal of 56 letter Latin script based on modified umlauts and other diacritics. At this point, of course, Czech and Polish have basically been hammered to sound like a western language, but it's inauthentic and they stick out a lot compared to other Slavic languages, especially Polish

[@ciyaz]

Of course arabic language has vowels. I mean come on, who really believes that you can't write vowels with arabic letters? 0:19 is propaganda and a bad one at that. Imagine I took the turkish words Çığ/Çiğ and then argued "In italian, these words are written as cig/cig ... see, italian alphabet is not suited for turkish" Which is correct, that's why turks use the latin alphabet differently than the italians or the french. It's the same with arabic alphabet folks, turks used it differently than the persians than the pakistani than the arabic... And btw, you would write gül/gel like كول/ كل

[@noone2345il]

During the first-half of 1920's, Arabic script was the chosen script for Turkish language. But this caused illiteracy among Turkish Turks due to Turkish being an aggultinative language and has too many words to fit for Arabic script. Arabic script has very short alphabets compared to Turkish language. Also, the non-Turkish people who wanted to learn Turkish didn't understood Arabic. So, Atatürk introduced a reform which replaced Arabic and made Latin as the official script for Turkish. It was made so that both native and non-Turkish people can learn Turkish easily.

[@Wul-Lop]

🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 ❤ Respect to M. KEMAL ATATÜRK... from Thailand...

[@kalvon]

Non-Turks hate this guy so much because of this, lmao

[@umutkiran3035]

Türkçe Altay dilidir 🇹🇷

[@TurguhanAlp]

Türklerin kendine has anıtları olsa çoktan şu kabile ırkı olan Arapların dinine muhtaç kalmazdık Türkiye müslüman olmasa 2023 hedeflerine anında ulaşırdı.

[@zoroasterman]

Respect to Türkiye 🇹🇷 from Australia 🇦🇺

[@mousamoradi3038]

As an Iranian Turk, I was able to read all those old newspapers in Arabic script shown in the video. It feels nice to be able to read those still standing scriptures in historical sites of Istanbul.

[@ruxmania]

Turkish people, who took religious education in their youth, can read Ottoman Turkish as well, and anyone interested can easily learn it. However, the issue is that it's more complex than it needs to be. Additionally, there aren't many books written during the Ottoman era. Most scientific papers are either in German or English, and the Latin alphabet makes it easier to learn those languages.

[@mousamoradi3038]

@@ruxmania Thanks for the information, I had no idea about the volume and availability of Ottoman Turkish books and the situation with scientific material.

[@nothingtosay6622]

Its not arabic script, turks using persian script

[@mousamoradi3038]

@@nothingtosay6622 It is Arabic script. If you want to be more specific and point out the Persian aspect, you can say "Perso-Arabic script", which is the more accurate name. If you want to ignore the fact that Persian took its script from Arabic and added some letters, then we can ignore the same since Ottoman Turkish also added some letters and just call it "Ottoman script".

[@servantofGod-xyz]

​English,french, german, Turkish, uses latin script​, as the script was used once upon a time to write latin. So the Ottoman Turkish and Persian both are written in Arabic script.@@nothingtosay6622

[@bamesh9258]

It's wrong to say that Turks were just using the Arabic script. In reality, they used the Persian script, which came from Arabic but was modified by the Persians to include letters that aren't in Arabic. Urdu also uses the Persian script. The official language of the Seljuk Empire was Persian, as it was spoken by the elite, while the common people spoke Turkish. Since then, Turks have used the Persian script for writing, until Atatürk changed it to a modified Latin script.

[@halitmahmut66]

WE PAKISTANIS DON'T USE THE PERSIAN SCRIPT!! WE MODIFIED THE PERSIAN SCRIPT BY ADDING EXTRA CHARACTERS OR LETTERS TO SUIT OUR URDU LANGUAGE SOUNDS, SO THEREFORE IT'S NO LONGER A PERSIAN SCRIPT BUT A NEW URDU SCRIPT! 🇵🇰💪🇵🇰💚🇵🇰💚🇵🇰💪🇵🇰💪🇵🇰💚

[@pouyajabbari3912]

​@@halitmahmut66Please give examples of letters in Urdu that don't exist in Persian...

[@faraznaqvi1113]

@@halitmahmut66 Bro you forget we also write Urdu in Latin script when texting to our friends and family🤣🤣💀💀

[@saadsalman6641]

​@@pouyajabbari3912retroflex r, d, t ڑ ڈ ٹ۔۔ Similarly there are sounds which have h incorporated in them, like bh بھ ph پھ th تھ retro Th ٹھ jh جھ chh چھ etc

[@HedefOdak]

As a Turk i love Ataturk so much

[@batuhantamburaci]

Today if I can understand this video and make this comment as a Turk today, it is thanks to this alphabet revolution

[@BurakGirgin-q3f]

I am deeply grateful to Atatürk. We remember him with respect. Je remercie profondément Atatürk. Nous lui rendons hommage avec respect. أنا ممتن جدًا لأتاتورك. نتذكره بكل احترام.

[@HolgerJakobs]

@4:13 The word "Görüşemeyeceklermiş" means "I heard that they are not going to be able to see each other". This is a really compact language. I think the time around 1927 was kind of a last chance to change the alphabet, because literacy rates were still low, so not many people were affected. Nowadays such a change would be very difficult. You can see this for instance in the U.S.A., where switching from their akward imperial units to the metric system seems to be too difficult to carry through.

[@ulughank]

The change to latin was done not because of western values but because of the already standart Common Turkic Alphabet which is where the modern Azerbaijani and the Past Crymean alphabets come from.

[@codingstyle9480]

It was a by-product anyways. I mean, it, in a way, showed its intention to break away from backward Arab lands.

[@Hasanaljadid]

Latin Alphabet is much more suitable for turkish Alphabet

[@islammehmeov2334]

Yes just look TURKIYE and the rest of the MUSLAM WORLD you can see how the SECULAR LATIN ALPHABET help the TURKS to progress

[@fy7589]

Theres no modern Turkic alphabet and the Latin alphabet is definitely much easier than the Arabic alphabet.

[@behlulhan421]

@@fy7589 I think he meant turkish language

[@Pepiyas7]

Simply,turkey used the latin alphabet because they are not arabic,greek,bulgarian or russian

[@gulaycevik1363]

They are not Latin either though 😅

[@sezersydm6844]

We are TURK, not arabic or greek or Bulgarian.

[@Pepiyas7]

@@gulaycevik1363 there is no turkish alphabet so it will be the definitive way to use the most wide spread alphabet,and another turkish country,azerbaijan(i guess i did not write it right😅)uses latin alphabet too.

[@robertsugg280]

When my Turkish students wanted to ask another one how to 'spell' a word in Turkish, the word was just pronounced and the other knew how to write it. The only instance I noticed was if a word from Arabic needed an Arabic pronunciation, the spelling system could not show it. These young students had little need to spell or speak Arabic words as they were taught as pure a form of Turkish as possible. They did not know much of the old Ottoman vocabulary that my Greek girlfriend knew how to use in speaking to an Armenian jeweler. I was astonished at how well they communicated in that fashion.

[@Psyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

I’m still imagining it how better iran would’ve been if shah actually managed to migrate the country to latin letters instead of arabic and not being taken over by islamists

[@erinpilla]

I remember in the dizi Kurt Seyit ve Sura, the characters were still writing in Arabic script. By the end, Türkiye had become independent, and the signs had become Latin

[@MinaMilay-b2e]

I'm algerian i try every time to read and understand Persian but I can't even I've i speak Arabic but the turkish was very easy to learn and read because i speak English and French the Latin alphabet is much suitable for Persian and turkish even for other languages or dialecte iv algerian dialecte use latin alphabet will be much easier to learn for foreigners because Arabic is very difficult and more complex, algerian dialecte sounds like malta in case you want to learn who use latin alphabet, I'm happy that ataturk switch from Arabic to latin because thanks to that i can understand and read and speak little bit . ❤love turkiye ❤ seni çok seviyorum ❤

[@Abdullah-mh7eg]

kidayr khoya

[@egecagdas9506]

Big respect to Algerians from Turkish people.

[@Proud_Hadrami]

الجزائر دائما عبيد لمستعمريهم 😂

[@Proud_Hadrami]

@@MinaMilay-b2e الجزائر دائما عبيد لمستعمريهم 😂

[@MinaMilay-b2e]

@@Proud_Hadrami حشاك انا قلت نهدر اللغة ماشي راني نعبد فيهم هذا علم ماشي تتبع انا اصلا هوايتي تعلم الغات ماشي كي جات فتركيا حاولت نتعلم لغات وحدخرين بصح تركية جاتني ساهلة ، معلابليش منين بلادك بصح جاتني غريبة تطيح ببلادي وبجنسيتي انا انسانة وطنية ونحب بلادي ونحب بلدان العالم هوايتي اكتشاف والسفر وتعلم وهادي ماشي تتبعية هادي فطرة فالانسان حرت علاه تقول كلام هك عيب عليك والله ما يليق شوف الأجانب كيفاش يعلقو غير بتقافة وتربية ماشي بتمسخير وسبان والاستهزاء الله يهديك

[@Rhythm412]

Wow! We need more creaters like you. You explained this topic in a simple manner discussing reason and their outcomes.

[@Mahanology]

Thank you very much.

[@mussajavdan8203]

Their are many pronunciations that is impossible to find in Latin . Although we had our own scripts before Islam . But later on the Persian literatures the Great Ferdowsi and Hafez came to the conclusion to transferring the Arabic scripts to a Persian version was the best option for the new Persian language what we today call the modern Persian language which we speak today . Although very difficult in writing ,its is rich very rich

[@WeAreTheWinnerr]

Atatürk ❤️🤍

[@ioanvalentinpavlov605]

and they made it phoneticly consistant if you are listening ( english , french , dutch , danish , swedish , norwegian etc) .

[@sefakaragoz7159]

Ataturk got Turkey stand up in the past. We are grateful to him. Thank you !🇹🇷

[@7-8-BaykutAbi]

Niye ? Latin misin yoksa ?

[@sefakaragoz7159]

@7-8-BaykutAbi sen arap dinine inaninca arap olmuyorsan bende latin alfabesi yazinca latin olmuyorum

[@7-8-BaykutAbi]

@@sefakaragoz7159 Sen önce islam dininin ne olduğunu araştır sonra konuş. Yahudiler gibi konuşuyorsun farkında değilsin. İslam arap dini değildir, Kuran'da araplarla ilgili tek bir ayet geçmez. İslam evrenseldir. İkincisi sende çok iyi biliyorsun bu dinsiz sebateistin tüm bunları neden yaptığını. Millete mi sordu alfabe değiştirirken? Devrim dediğiniz şapka saçmalığı için kime danıştı? Harf inkılabıda bugün sen çok sevsen bile o zaman için diktatörce yapılmış birşeydi ve kendi kafasından yapmıyordu bunları. O dönemde osmanlı ülkesi üzerinde kurulan her devletin birçok kanunu değişti, hatta bizde ingilizce ya da fransızcanın resmi dil olmaması çok şaşırtıcı çünkü bizden kopan kuzey afrikada bunu da yaptılar. Sen şimdi dinsiz biriysen alfabeyi kaldırmasını ya da bu devlerimleri yapmasını hoş karşılayabilirsin, buna birşey demiyorum, ama eğer müslümansan ya da türksen ya ahmak olmalısın ya da art niyetli.

[@Pap294-j4l]

😂

[@gk98s]

@@7-8-BaykutAbi hadi çölüne

[@babylatte4444]

Teşekkürler Atatürk ❤

[@StomachAcid]

I found this so interesting! Sending love from the US!

[@egeham71]

I ask those who say to Turks, “You have switched from an alphabet that is not yours to an alphabet that is not yours.” Are you Latin? Or are you English so you can read this comment?

[@markmorrow8o]

Because we're not Arabs

[@fadyalqaisy]

Are you latin?

[@OrbayOguz]

​@@fadyalqaisyAnatolia was part of Rome, therefore we are Romans!

[@Turkic_Soul]

​@@fadyalqaisy So you mean English people are latin? Scandinavian nations are latin? Turks aren't arabs, just an Eurasian nation like other European nations who doesn't latin but use latin alphabet. You must agree we are different people we have our own culture, language, history, gastronomy, music etc... You can't assimilate us anymore in 21th century bro.

[@fadyalqaisy]

@@OrbayOguz part of Byzantium, you should be writing in Greek

[@fadyalqaisy]

@@Turkic_Soul nope, but their holy script was written in latin

[@DATFurkan]

Arap olmadığımız için olabilir belki

[@ahmetsalih857]

Latin de değiliz.

[@sudebulut6299]

The changes of alphabet was already discussed in late period of ottomans . I am little bit surprised how people act like Atatürk suddenly came up with the idea .

[@MustafaEthemIsik]

It's usually atatürk haters

[@thenotoriousman712]

The alphabet reform was accepted on November 1, 1928. In the population census conducted before this (October 28, 1927), the literacy rate in the country was determined as 8.61 percent. 3.67 percent for women; 12.99 percent for men!

[@LazieKat]

I don't understand why Turks don't just stick to their grounds and just admit it is political. No one is gonna get mad or force them to switch back to Arabic, they have all the right to formulate their language the way they want, but they should be truthful cuz otherwise you will just look uneducated of their own linguistic history and they would just be propagating political arguments as if they were linguistic. The "gül, gel, kel" example is incorrect, as g and k use different Arabic letters, and a verb and a noun can never be mistaken together. You wouldn't mistake the word "gone" and "gun" in spoken English. And still, in modern written Turkish the word "yüz" means "hundred", "face", "front", "observe" and more, does that mean Latin is unsuitable for Turkish? All languages have different meanings for the same "word" whether written or spoken. The point of vowel based vs consonant based also doesn't apply, because Turkish used its own rules for writing that are different from Arabic, the same way Persian, South Azerbaijani, Kurdish, Urdu and Uyghur all do. They all use Arabic letters but each language has its very own set of rules and phonology. Two of the languages I mentioned are also Turkic. Using diacritics for vowels was also helpful in some scenarios as Turkish vowel harmony is perceived not hardcoded. For example -ler and -lar do not need to be explicitly written as such for a native speaker to know which one is correct, you could write -lr and it would be impossible to use the wrong vowel because only one vowel would flow with the rest of the sentence. Mistaking the vowel is practically impossible for a native speaker. Even the lack of literacy was not an effect of the alphabet. The entirety of the middle east had low literacy at the time due to lack of education regardless of the language, and the common Turkish person at the time was a different class from the ruling class and there was a lack of care due to the dying empire. Today, literacy is almost at a 100% for the entire middle east regardless of alphabet. As I said, other Turkic languages still use Arabic script to this day and they do not suffer from any of the claimed "difficulties", and people who can read and understand Ottoman Turkish know the language was quite fine. The change was merely political, and that's okay, Turks should embrace their motives. This can be a discussion on its own sure, but, linguistically, using Arabic or Latin or Cyrillic makes no practical difference.

[@YKKck-vf1vc]

TÜRKÇE KONUŞMAK ÇOK GÜZEL ŞEYDİR 🥰🇹🇷❤️

[@hecatesgirl]

Turks had their own language and alphabet before islam. It's called 'Gokturk Alphabet' Arabic alphabet has nothing to do with their culture and language, and not compatible. Latin innovation was a lot easier and helped Turks become multilingual and understand the world languages better today..

[@fes13us]

I thank atatürk very much

[@atusa909]

You made a mistake.They did not use arabic script but actually it was Farsi(persian) alphabet,however the alphabet is similar but not the same because Farsi(persian) has four letters more than arabic which are چ،گ،ژ،پ. And if paid enough attention you could see that they did have that four letters in their alphabet . So they used Fasi(persian) alphabet not arabic.

[@hassansiddiq455]

Persian alphabet is borrowed from arabic

[@thangri-la]

farsi alphabet is just another variation of arabic alphabet. iran lost its writing instrument to islam

[@shadowgod1797]

@@thangri-la lol no

[@edrrj5639]

There is nothing called Persian alphabet. It’s an Arabic alphabet used in the Persian language

[@shadowgod1797]

@@edrrj5639 persian alphabet in arabic script know the difference

[@fy7589]

I have heard many anti secular people complain about this reform but I can see how it revolutionized the Turkish literature and science development.

[@codingstyle9480]

Because they are for Arab nationalism not knowing what they are after for. Just so stupid.

[@emrearl6194]

mahan hi thanks for the video, could you tell me where can I found the paper you showed in 1:10 time stamp it's really interesting to find pre-script reform transcriptions of Anatolian dialect. Thanks in advance 👌

[@Mahanology]

Hello, it is a page from Muteferrika's book titled "Grammaire Turque" published in 1730.

[@OBUnting]

5:36 the thing is, the literacy percentage of the general population was already in shambles in those times. The mentioned "gap" already existed in a way, practically nothing has changed. You still have to learn the language to read what's written. The Ottoman literacy was already hard to access for the average citizen. The old CHP poster shown at 0:26 reads as: THE OLD ALPHABET WAS VERY HARD THE NEW ALPHABET Has made reading and writing easier. The number of schools after the reform has increased. National Schools were opened: Old and young, everyone are learning how to read.

[@adineatha9766]

Hope they adopt the Old Turkic script written downwards. Would be 👑🧡

[@PatriotOfPersia]

It's Sogdian Script Actually with Aramic Background!!!

[@islammehmeov2334]

@PatriotOfPersia LoL in your SEMITIC GYPSY DREAMS

[@PatriotOfPersia]

@islammehmeov2334 Said Azerbaijani Clown With Semitic J2 Hapologroup and Arabic Name and Gypsy Lifestyle!!! According To " Ilber Ortali " Turkish Historian Gokturk Script is Broken Sogdian Alphabet !!!

[@Eastern_Egale]

​@@islammehmeov2334 Average IQ in Azergayjan is 80

[@islammehmeov2334]

​@@PatriotOfPersiaSaid the GEYRAN how is not more than SEMITIC GYPSY with the J1 haplogrup and ILBER ORTAYLI never set that the GOKTURK ALPHABET comes from SEMITIC GYPSY sogdian

[@LerosMckelly2212]

Using Latin alphabet is way more easier and suitable for Turkish language.

[@Ki_yunmi]

No

[@LerosMckelly2212]

@ How come ?

[@akbulutarda472]

@@LerosMckelly2212 he/she is arabic don't listen to him/her

[@LerosMckelly2212]

@@akbulutarda472 I had a chance to learn some turkish for a while and figured out that there is a logic behind it compare to most of languages.So that's why latin is more sutiable.

[@yukseleryaz1142]

Arap olmadığımız için olabilirmi?

[@Zafer-m3d]

Elbette Arap değiliz

[@yukseleryaz1142]

@Zafer-m3d yani

[@Zafer-m3d]

@yukseleryaz1142 Arap o, bu olmak değil mesele mesele aslını inkâr etmek.

[@yukseleryaz1142]

@@Zafer-m3d anlamadım?

[@ahmetsalih857]

​@@yukseleryaz1142 Arap harflerini kullanmakla Arap olunmaz.Tıpkı Latin harfleri kullandığımız için Latin olmadığımız gibi.

[@damlatorun6756]

1: We’re not arabs (this is a joke, I don’t mean to offend anyone) 2: words with similar sounds and letter counts become indistinguishable from eachother with arabic script. 3: arabic script is difficult to learn, and in order to increase literacy rates Atatürk opted for an easier (and more commonly used) alphabet.

[@amronemhb]

Not surprising if you want to offend Arabs and Arab speaking, you can rather edit it without offence

[@tunahan1296]

Türk dili ile arap alfabesi uyumsuzdur. Türkçe ural-altay dil grubundadır.

[@ahmetsalih857]

Latin harfleri de Hint-Avrupa dil grubunda olan Latince'ye aittir.Farklı dil grupları aynı alfabelerle ifade edilebilir(mesela Farsça ile Arapça gibi)

[@europeanlover]

Turkey start to be more European than asiatic this is why they should join EU in 2033

[@cihansaglamoz8589]

But can't

[@hypercar3663]

As a German, I disagree. We shouldn't let a country that sees others as mere Tools in an already broken European Union. Further, Türkiye would have to much power as it would be the most populated country in this entity, making it more difficult to pass important laws as they will Block them with their patriotic and non-scientific reasoning.

[@AchyutChaudhary]

*I’m curious why they didn’t adopt the neighbouring:* 🇬🇷🇨🇾 Greek - Ελληνικά 🇬🇪 Georgian - ქართული 🇦🇲 Armenian - հայերեն 🇧🇬🇦🇿 Cyrillic - Цыриллиц *…scripts but instead went with Latin given none of their neighbours used it?*

[@kaloschke]

Because the hate the Greek, killed Georgians and Armenians and Cyrillic has no connection there 😂

[@nenenindonu]

Out of those Armenian is the most suitable one for Turkic

[@swedishnationalist6632]

No azerGAYjan is arabic

[@LuthienwithoutBeren]

@AchyutChaudhary Because developed western countries were using the Latin alphabet. To avoid difficulties in communicating with them. I think he talked about this in the video. Why choose other when you can have the best!

[@Samirustem]

Azerbaijan also had latin alphabet. It changed few times but during independence it was latin and stayed latin while after being in soviet union

[@batugategin2543]

Eğer isteseydi Göktürk Alfabesini günceller ve kullanırdı. Ama, Arap alfabesini kullanarak 600 yıl Ortadoğu Kuzey Afrika ve Balkanlarla ilişkilerini geliştirdi kültürel bağlarını güçlendirdi ve yönetti. Latin Lafabesine geçerek de Avrupa'yı ele geçirip yönetecek. Bizler yarını bile düşünemezken Türk devlet aklı binlerce yıllık plan yapıyor.

[@e9mer]

3:37 The reason for the places appearing red in this section was the Kurdish population there.

[@ahmetbor26]

The main idea with alphabet change was to erase all Ottoman empire history and Turks islamic memory . After this event , they write and teached new history which includes tons of lies . Thats the truth .

[@Vanguard.1283]

Şöyle beyinsiz olmakta zor olmayan belgeler silinmez. Okuryazarlık oranının en iyi döneminde bile %12 olduğu bir imparatorluk ki Anadolu'da tek kütüphane inşaa etmemiş. Matbaaya gavur icadı diye sınırlarına sokmamıştı. Öte yandan sen fesli deli izleyerek beynini zaten eritmişsin 🤡

[@alperbasiyor]

geldi yine zeka seviyesi yerlerde olan bir m*slüman :D

[@ahmetsalih857]

​@@Vanguard.1283 burada beyni erimiş biri varsa o da sensin.Eskiden okuryazarlık oranı her yerde düşüktü.Osmanlı'da biraz daha düşüktü çünkü okuma yazma bilen nesil cephelerde kırılmıştı.Günümüz Türkiyesi'nde okuma-yazma oranının yüksek olmasının sebebi de harf inkılabı değil,gelişen dünya şartlarıdır.Zira 1960'larda Türkiye hâla okuryazarlık oranı en düşük ülkelerden biriydi😂

[@CukZebczx]

BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ARAB

[@Exocrotic-yn2ck]

We are not European nor latins either!

[@CukZebczx]

@ You are right

[@Yarluqaduq]

@@Exocrotic-yn2ck everybody knows we are not arab or european. But using latin makes sense in todays world and makes everything easier.

[@suleymanthemagnificent1526]

No one said you are arab

[@sentientglitch]

so you are latin? lmfao. you should use Arabic script

"In his view the Arabic script represented the Ottoman past, a history he wanted to distance Turkey from. " Who told you this?

[@Ahmad_55773]

from morocco to pakistan used the same script

[@OrbayOguz]

İn the past

[@Yusufspider42]

Simple answer: to have closer relations to Europe and the western world

[@bilgibilgi-nr6sj]

You don't know our language.Shut up

[@Apistoleon]

You did not even listen the video. Turkish language has never been compatible with Arabic script

[@Yusufspider42]

@ because my answer isnt related to the video im just saying what i know

[@Apistoleon]

@@Yusufspider42 Ottoman Empire already was accepted being part of Europe and the world, before Türkiye. Türkiye did not start this.

[@Yusufspider42]

@@Apistoleon yes but changing into the latin alphabet had a big effect aswell

[@atk61yld]

I'm a Turk and I learned Ottoman Turkish in one month it's not even hard. But those handwritten records are hard to read you have to train yourself.

[@user-jz1wz3ts9j]

Bad bait, typicial 61..

[@jamiehope4580]

Mate I've learned ottoman alfabet from my turkish friends and it was much easier then learning modern turkish.

[@atk61yld]

@@jamiehope4580 Actually I already knew Arabic alphabet and learning Ottoman Turkish was easy for me. But you have to know Turkish to understand the Ottoman Turkish. The difference between Turkish and Ottoman Turkish is Ottoman Turkish has old words and you can write some words in a lot of different way. Also writing Arabic and Persian words are different than writing Turkish words. But in Turkish there is only one way to write a word and there is no different writing ways for Arabic and Persian words.

[@06egekilic]

ya ben 1 ayimi niye harcayayim osmanli turkcesi ogrenmek icin

[@user-jz1wz3ts9j]

@@06egekilic 1 ayda da ogrenebilecek bir sey degil yalan soyluyor amk

[@asena5485]

It was a shame for us Turks to use arabic alphabet in the first place. We should never have adopted their culture, Atatürk just fixed this mistake.

[@acultofpersonality7162]

This is how slaves think🤣 You just proved that you have no culture by adopting the western culture instead of the Arab culture🤣🤣🤣. If great Turks like Alp Arslan and Mehmed the Conqueror saw you today would spit on you for kissing Europeans asses

[@mayacobain94]

​@@acultofpersonality7162 dude thinks arabs or western europeans has a culture

[@NyX060]

𐰴𐰀𐱅𐰴𐰺𐰢 𐰀𐰺𐰉𐰃𐱃 𐰑𐰃𐰞, 𐰀𐱅𐰀 𐱅𐰃𐰞𐰀𐰢 𐰀𐰺𐰉𐰃𐱃𐰴𐰀 𐰑𐰃𐰞

[@NyX060]

​@@acultofpersonality7162punk

[@MkkhhDcccjh]

@@mayacobain94 or turks.

[@MeinKrampf-33-45]

Ich glaube nicht wenn Atatürk all das mit diesem Land gemacht hätte wären sie nicht so weit auf der Welt verbreitet. Danke Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

[@ericcc4637]

The creator of the modern turkish latin alphabet is an Armenian, Hakob Martayan (Dilâçar), you should have mentioned that. To conceal the fact that a man of an Armenian descent created the alphabet, he is almost everywhere inscribed as A. Dilâçar. There’s a story (version) behind Ataturk’s language reform program that in one of the letters his name was written not Kemal but Jemal (camel), which made him angry. In addition to the alphabet, after the surname law was adopted, he gave the surname Atatürk to Mustafa Kemal, while Kemal gave Hakob Martayan the surname Dilâçar (the one who opened the language). Moreover, Hakob played a huge role in the formation of turkish grammar, became the first general secretary of Turkish Linguistic Society, greatly contributed to the creation of the Turkish Encyclopaedia. 🇦🇲

[@alperbasiyor]

Bro none of those are true lol. Same alphabet were already in use by other Turkish countries. Agop Dilaçar didn't ''create'' it.

[@nazenin235]

Atam sen çok yaşa

[@Farmalade]

shortest answer we turks are not arabs.

[@wolfRegal0]

Pakistanis use Arabic alphabet but they r not arab

[@NyX060]

​@@wolfRegal0Pakistan is full of Arabs dude tf u talkin about

[@LuthienwithoutBeren]

​@@wolfRegal0Pakistanis don't interest me. Do I have to use the arabic alphabet? What is your matter about us?

[@BDizzleMySchnizzle]

You're also not Roman but are using the Latin alphabet now. What is your point?

[@Farmalade]

@@BDizzleMySchnizzle what about you?

[@thenotoriousman712]

When the age group of 15-29 years is included; (in Turkiye) 43% - Those who identify as "religious". 45% - Those who describe themselves as "not religious, but believers". 5% - Those who identify as "sophisticated". (Extremely religious) 4% - Those who identify as "non-believers". 4% - Those who identify as "atheists".

[@alpertunga6792]

In 2024, the rate of Turkish youth who define themselves as secular is 95%. Even the middle-aged group that defines itself as religious actually lives secularly. If we consider the entire population, 80% of the country lives secularly. Turkish society is a secularized society, even if it does not accept it. (My personal opinion as a Turk)

[@januszlepionko]

@thenotoriousman : 43+45+5+4+4=101 Either your data is corrupt or you are bad in adding whole numbers.

[@pouyajabbari3912]

​@@januszlepionkoIt's called rounding, you learn it in elementary school...

[@januszlepionko]

@@pouyajabbari3912 If you use percents, and you round numbers in a way the sum of those percents goes beyond the value you derive percents from (like here), you are using wrong way of rounding. Period. Because there are many methods of rounding, and not all are applicable in the same situations.

[@pouyajabbari3912]

@@januszlepionko Just because you think it's wrong doesn't make it wrong.... if for example you have 7.5% and 32.5% then in many cases you say 8% and 33%, even though really they should add up to 40% but could also be 41% if you had rounded. So the point is that you should concentrate on the subject and statistics rather than small details. It's not like the number add up to 150%!!!

[@mussajavdan8203]

Hello .I am Iranian. Persian is my mother tongue . I have studied six different languages .So i know what Iam talking about. It is true with the indo thing you said of course. I never said Arabic and Persian are the same at all. But the modern Persian language have adopted the Arabic scripts and transferred the to a Persian version.Because of that you could express yourself in Persian when writing and speaking in many ways and words and sentence structure all with the same meaning . That's the glory of a rich language

[@stefanmantov]

I am bulgarian, can speak also thurkis, you know - like in Iran some of us in some parts of country from past centuries use to speak some Turkish والي بهترين كه كردم با زبان تزركي ، كه بلادم اين بود -فرسي رو خوبب فرسي به ياد كرفتم. ثروتمند يك زبان است ، با تاريح و شعرها زيباي بي نظير

[@shadowgod1797]

@@stefanmantov درود بر شما دوست گرامی

[@TurguhanAlp]

​@@stefanmantov Your immigrant friends love to exploit countries

[@Hashemaljarah1]

I expect that the reason for changing the alphabet is only Westernization, and by the way, the education system in Turkey that Ataturk adopted is the same one that raised the rates of reading and writing. For example, in my country, Jordan, the reading rate did not exceed 10%, and during the reign of King Abdullah I, the reading rate rose to 50%. This means that it was possible to adopt a good and serious education system in the Ottoman Empire and illiteracy could have disappeared.

[@whQQps]

In 1926, a congress was held in Baku with the participation of representatives from all Turkish states.. At this congress, the Latin alphabet was chosen as the most suitable alphabet for the Turkish language. The transition to the Latin alphabet was approved in all Turkish states, including those occupied by Russia at that time. After 2 years of preparations, the Republic of Türkiye switched to the Latin alphabet in 1928. Our transition to the Latin alphabet has nothing to do with the West. On the contrary, it's purpose is to ensure cultural unity with the Turkish Communities in the East.

[@Hashemaljarah1]

@hakant.7242 why didn't you develop the Arabic letters themselves or go back to the old Turkish letters, Wouldn't that have been better? Also Question: What is the name of the conference? Baku Conference or what exactly? Because I searched for it and didn't find it.

[@ozan7427]

Arabic is hard and needless for Turks. Latin suited better. Not the mention bunch of translation mistakes when writing with arabic alphabet

[@Hashemaljarah1]

@ozan7427 This is not true. The Arabic alphabet is not difficult, but to be fair we do not have many vowels like Latin and perhaps this is what makes it difficult for languages ​​that use Arabic letters, But there are many attempts to add new vowels to the Arabic letters, most of which were Ottoman attempts that could have been used, but no one

[@ozan7427]

@@Hashemaljarah1 Latin comes from aramaic like Orkhon inscriptions which are Turkic comes from aramaic too. Its very hard to write in arabic alphabet and there is translation mistakes in shop ownership etc.

[@Sch8265]

This is very simple; the most suitable writing style for the Turkish language is Latin. Even today, most Central Asian Turkish states try to write their language in Latin like ours, except for the Cyrillic alphabet.

[@LucasSchimmel]

Literacy was what in 1920s turkey? Under 20% for sure, it's not that crazy to change your script when most of your population is illiterate, might as well engage in a literacy campaign while you're at it.

[@DelustLinoth]

As a born-raised Turkish person, I wish Islam never influenced our land and culture, we would be much more advanced and peaceful nation today.

[@A_I_N_P]

You would not exist as a nation without islam my beautiful ataturkist fella

[@StalkerX426]

yeah. I wish all of us oghuzs migrated from urals to ukraine to balkans to anatolia instead of from turkmenistan to iran to anatolia.

[@İzmir_city_state_republic]

​@@StalkerX426 Lad, it would be way worse. If most oghuz followed upper part like huns in 375s we would start to lose our culture faster. Also slaws would be a greater issue

[@abdullahiabdisalan1170]

Lol u would be in a tent in Mongolia lol it that was the case

[@Kimgangze]

What do arab think of Turkic empire​@@abdullahiabdisalan1170

[@d.l4326]

The original Turkic alphabet was not arabic. It was Runic. You see this in Orhun writings in Mongolia. This alphabet was also the origin of Latin. Seljuk empire adopted Persian and arabic , than ottomans continued to use arabic. Atatürk knew this. And decided to go back to the original alphabet of Turks. In this case what you would call "Latin". Look up where Latin derive. Where Etruscan came from. And who created government of Rome.

[@Yarluqaduq]

etruscan connection is kinda low possibility. Back then everybody used runic alphabet

[@mustafanaser9789]

No, it was not Runic. The Orhun writings were written in Old Turkic Letters which have similarities with Runic Alphabet. Interestingly the Old Turkic Alphabet, which was also used in the Orhun writings was derived from Aramaic Alphabet which is like Arabic a semitic language. Aramaic is the language of the ancestors of many Iraqis and Syrians and there is also an existing Aramaic diaspora around the world

[@Dalmenco]

Turks are invaders and have no relationship with Etruscans

[@JaKingScomez]

@@mustafanaser9789aramaic is jewish right

[@ahmetyusufsrgl]

@@mustafanaser9789 arabic and Turkish has no any kind of similarity. the first time I'm hearing someone says Turkish has roots Aramaic. Arabs loves to feel Turkish a bit.

[@ugur4511]

The Latin alphabet originally belongs to the Latins in Italy. The Latin alphabet has no connection with the people of Germanic or Celtic origin. The Germens and Celts were barbarians in the eyes of the Latins.