Mahavishnu Orchestra - Noonward Race (Which Alt Universe Did We Step In???) 😆

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@jamesreeves7934
@jamesreeves7934 11 ай бұрын
These guys are musician's musicians...the best of the best. Progressive jazz rock fusion. You're not ready for this yet. Not everyone likes or appreciates this style but someday you'll see the creative and soulful picture this great music paints...and it's LIVE! Just incredible.
@robertsullivan6246
@robertsullivan6246 11 ай бұрын
"It feels like he is playing anxiety" Bingo! It's called "The Noonward Race" and the energy of the song I think was intended to reflect the anxiety in our lives as we start the busy day rushing and racing towards the noon break. The guitarist, John McLaughlin played on several Miles Davis albums along with the drummer before forming this band.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Ahhh, makes sense!!
@substantialopinion1055
@substantialopinion1055 5 ай бұрын
@@MaddyReactionsfunny lady😂😂
@neildonley9626
@neildonley9626 11 ай бұрын
This band is one of the pioneers of jazz (rock) fusion. I would suggest Return To Forever (Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, Al DiMeola, Lenny White) Fusion, but more melodic.
@fredkrissman6527
@fredkrissman6527 11 ай бұрын
MUCH more melodic!
@andrewedelen2420
@andrewedelen2420 8 ай бұрын
What’s happening here is a lot of improvisation--each guy getting a solo, with the main riff introduced by the soloist as a cue for the group to play the riff in unison before passing it to the next guy. This is, in Indian music, a “jugalbandi.” McLaughlin begins the piece with a completely improvised section that only sounds “organized” because Billy Cobham, the drummer, is so good at picking upon what his bandmates are playing. Essentially, this piece of music as “written” consists only of the riff that each guy plays when he’s done (played three times each iteration, as is common in Indian music) and the riff that McLaughlin plays at the end of his solo to lead into the violin solo; this riff also ends the song. Everything else is loosely structured, if at all. It’s a testament to their musicianship that it seems like an actual song.
@Hartlor_Tayley
@Hartlor_Tayley 11 ай бұрын
Mahavishnu has some pieces that you would like more. This piece being a show closer makes more sense after a set of their music. All top musicians but not everyone will find this appealing, most of the best music is like that. This is like Be bop jazz mixed with Jimi Hendrix acid rock.
@michaelhodge6779
@michaelhodge6779 9 ай бұрын
The fact the you even did a Mayavishnu song reflects your openness as a person. I’ve been listening to them for nearly half my life at age 30 and am a jazz musician myself. They’re the best technical band of all time and one of my favs. They changed my life, my mind, and what I thought I knew about music and reality. I’ve searched for years for someone to do Mahavishnu reactions, your maybe 1 of 4 or 5 channels I’ve ever seen so thank you. 🙏🏻 peace & love as McLaughlin said.
@dhoyp14
@dhoyp14 Ай бұрын
Check out Andy Edwards. He doesn't do reactions, but talks about music. He loves Mahavishnu. He'll give you some new music you've never heard also. I found things with him I never heard and I have 20 years on you.
@DavidPChristian2
@DavidPChristian2 11 ай бұрын
You called it. Both John McLaughlin, the guitarist, and Billy Cobham, the drummer, had been in Miles Davis' band.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Makes sense!!
@DavidPChristian2
@DavidPChristian2 11 ай бұрын
PS John wasn't a junkie. He was, and still is far as I know, an extremely devout mystic and yogi.
@JulioLeonFandinho
@JulioLeonFandinho 11 ай бұрын
@@DavidPChristian2 many mystics took substances since forever, basically the psychedelic type, like roots and mushrooms... But it's true that those drugs aren't adictive substances, they just frie your brains
@alldayadventures5418
@alldayadventures5418 11 ай бұрын
Billy Cobham has a lot of solo albums. All of them are fantastic. One of his best Intro Songs/ Album is: "Sea of Tranquility" from Total Eclipse album. That tune is anything but Tranquil. Also while the album has a space-theme to it, I think Total Eclipse means that Billy Cobham totally eclipses all other drummers.... which he does.
@carbonc6065
@carbonc6065 9 ай бұрын
@@alldayadventures5418 Agreed ... Also, it's my fav of his solo albums ... Magic being second!
@ytflix776
@ytflix776 8 ай бұрын
This performance has some of the best pockets of groove ever. Esp between Billy and John, and Billy and Jan. I think it takes a listen or two to bob your head to this one
@quentenjones3626
@quentenjones3626 9 ай бұрын
Maddy, glad you had a listen to this. Unfortunately this may not be a piece that is welcoming to you. However, this particular performance of the tune is monster, especially the intro. I would hope that you might find the time to see this whole episode. The performance of "A Lotus on Irish Streams" is particularly breathtaking. These gentlemen were and are (except for the deceased Rick Laird) musicians of such a caliber that few ever reach that level. The sad thing is this line-up split up so soon. Ah, but that is the way of musicians. In closing, you might think of this as akin to Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring".
@shannonvanpatten8341
@shannonvanpatten8341 11 ай бұрын
You should hear Frank Zappa, Cheapin's, live at the Roxy
@donnielsen154
@donnielsen154 4 ай бұрын
Also, remember, this was recorded with the technology of the time - which over 50 years ago - and John (guitar), Billy (drums), Rick (bass), Jerry (violin) and Jan Hammer (keyboards) were just awesome and SO ahead of their time. Imagine them now, using the best electronic equipment available today.....WOW
@jazzmandolin5004
@jazzmandolin5004 11 ай бұрын
You tackled Mahavishnu, pretty cool, good for you.
@hokiedoo
@hokiedoo 11 ай бұрын
It is a double necked guitar
@robcramer823
@robcramer823 10 ай бұрын
You happened upon one of their more intense (especially live) tunes for your initiation! So it's more understandable that you'd find this piece and/or the playing 'chaotic'. Then again it does feel like you're over-reacting (in lightning-fast fashion!) to each moment instead of stepping back a bit and just letting it happen. You know, much of the music we hear today is so pop oriented, where the sense of the tune is neatly packaged for us and therefore instantly understood (and marketable). Yes, there is wild intensity in John's playing and you are sensitive in hearing some pain there (he went thru a rough time, but got OK) but if you check out more of this band's work, I'll bet more love would result!
@ericsierra-franco7802
@ericsierra-franco7802 11 ай бұрын
I love the Mahavishnu Orchestra but they certainly aren't for everyone. Brilliant musicians all!
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
🩷🩷🩷
@paulkazakoff9231
@paulkazakoff9231 8 ай бұрын
They can play anything and everything.There 's a lot more to this band than this one piece of music here.Most Mahavishnu albums are tremendous !!
@cobbwebs
@cobbwebs 2 ай бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that Miles Davis told John McLaughlin "You're beyond me" and then John wrote "Miles Beyond" as a nod to Davis.
@davorcihak7330
@davorcihak7330 10 ай бұрын
Cobham secured a place on Olympus a long time ago. One of drumming gods.
@tvccs6542
@tvccs6542 Ай бұрын
You may (or may not) be pleased to know the audiences for this type of "hard-core" fusion are usually 90-95% male, and it's been that way for 50 years.
@valentinagarciafernandez9031
@valentinagarciafernandez9031 11 ай бұрын
Doble-necked guitar. John McLaghlin and Jimmy Page use the same model of Gibson.
@chriswilliams8849
@chriswilliams8849 11 ай бұрын
You're right. This is not for you. But these guys skill level are unparalleled. And take in the fact that this was recorded in the early 70s, there's you haven't it. It's intended to be chaotic. That's the point. The name of the song is Noonward Race. It's meant to depict a frenetic pace. A race
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
I expressed I can tell there is talent in this performance. lol I feel like the best music is accessible to most, as music typically has a message that the artist would like to get across to the largest amount of people.
@carlkelly9236
@carlkelly9236 2 ай бұрын
This is a musicians super group. This group heavily inspired even YES. Mahavishnu John Mclaughlin and William Cobham came fourth from Miles Davis's "Bitch Brew". A girlfriend of mine introduced me to this group in the 70's. At first listening, I thought the record was scratched and broken. After hearing it a few times, i realized they were playing in a musical reference point that was evolved far beyond normal conventional mainstream musical reference points. This is Jazz/Rock Fusion in the rawest form. Very few females I've known liked this genre. The exception was my very progressive female friend who turned me on the Mahavishnu Orchestra and YES, two of my favorite bands.
@jlb6
@jlb6 11 ай бұрын
The noon ward race depicts workday life and is meant reflect anxiety. I would recommend some of John”s work with Carlos Santana. A life divine is special.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Ahhh, makes sense! I love Santana!
@ronniefarnsworth6465
@ronniefarnsworth6465 27 күн бұрын
You must learn about the Band, All are right at the Top in musicianship and Maha pretty much started the "Jazz Fusion" sound along with Return to Forever !! John the Guitarist is well known to be one of the "Greatest" Jazz Fusion Guitar players ! 👍🎶🎸🎹🥁🎻🎼✌
@glass2467
@glass2467 11 ай бұрын
Yes that first part did sound erratic. But little did you know that he is now considered one of the best guitarist to ever walk the earth. You haven't heard much of what he does over his entire career, which is vast. He's a true master musician. It's unfortunate you heard this one first.
@jamesolson2334
@jamesolson2334 11 ай бұрын
Maddy, kudos for your honesty in your reaction. Mahavishnu is an acquired taste, one that I have yet to acquire.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
lol thank you 🩷
@levpoplow7354
@levpoplow7354 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the world of jazz fusion. I must admit that you started by jumping right into the deep end. I would suggest you try wading into the pool with something a little easier to understand and connect with like Return to Forever and their Romantic Warrior album.
@stringrip
@stringrip 4 ай бұрын
On the studio version of this song from Inner Mounting Flame album I believe the guitar used was a Gibson Les Paul. The guitar may sound disjointed because of odd time signatures and Indian music influence. There is an even longer louder more extreme version of this piece recorded at the Mar Y Sol Festival, Puerto Rico in 1972 which is also available on KZbin. One thing that never gets commented on about on this video is that during the final drum guitar duet Jan Hammer starts having an animated conversation with bassist Rick Laird - what were they talking about ? R.I.P Rick Laird.
@littlealchemistolympics2884
@littlealchemistolympics2884 11 ай бұрын
This band changed my life.... It's discordant. It's mind altering... and it seems like it made you think. Which is good.
@DavidKolbSantosh
@DavidKolbSantosh 11 ай бұрын
it is meant to be erratic at that point. McLaughlin often plays in that erratic style but not exclusively...Mahavishnu is an acquired taste but once the musical palate is educated you'll savour it.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Maybe, but probably not. 😆 I can tell they are talented, I just prefer more relaxing music.
@bernardkelly9708
@bernardkelly9708 9 ай бұрын
Mar y Sol concert in Puerto Rico.mh.
@gj8683
@gj8683 7 ай бұрын
It's not the most accessible Mahavishnu, for sure. Try "Lila's Dance." Different personnel (except for McLaughlin), in a later version of the band. Certainly easier to get into.
@william-uc2oy
@william-uc2oy 3 ай бұрын
Birds of fire! I well remember hearing them as a teen. My mind was just…wow. What a lineup of musicians. Billy on drums. Jan on keys. Jon was on another level. This song is a bit to disjointed for me.
@BarbarraBay
@BarbarraBay 15 күн бұрын
Indeed. I am super MO fan. This live song is disjointed. The lady's reaction was accurate.
@BarbarraBay
@BarbarraBay 15 күн бұрын
the best Mahavishnu Orchestra album to start with is Birds Of Fire. The best song on it is One Word, which is pure cohesion. Also, check out the tune Lila's Dance (from another album).
@louisgreen3915
@louisgreen3915 10 ай бұрын
First I would say, people need to stop calling instrumental music "songs". Songs (by definition) have singing in them. This is not a band that most folks would "get into" by hearing them once (me included). They have a drive and a groove that is partly organised and partly improvised. And yes, the drummers job in this (like all modern Jazz) is to follow the soloist and react accordingly. I love many styles of music, but this band for me is so far above others that they are almost alone. If you had asked me when I was younger if I would ever in the future, like this music, I would have called you mad, now it looks like I'm the mad one, BUT I no longer care about that. Your first reaction to the Mahavishnu Orchestra was a correct one. I also said WTF when I first herd them, but great grooves done by drummers like this always brings me back to try and understand what these guys are doing. Oh yes, fun fact. You know when at all the big rock concerts (and now pop concerts) when people hold up a lighter and wave it from right to left, well, the audience that followed this band were the ones that invented this idea due to the MO debut album "The Inner Mounting Flame" They were first doing it in the tiny clubs in New-York were this band first played, then they were followed around and the audiences started getting bigger with more lighters. Anyway, great reaction.
@marrkhicks
@marrkhicks 15 күн бұрын
One neck is a 12 strung. The other is an 8 string
@nrd515
@nrd515 11 күн бұрын
You either get it or you don't. I liked it from the first time I heard MO when the "Inner Mounting Flame" album came out.
@johncagnettajr344
@johncagnettajr344 11 ай бұрын
Well yes you’re wrong. It was cohesive but they not playing in traditional time signature. Not toe tapping music for sure. You need to hear the musical theme and how they play around with it.
@evertvanderhik5774
@evertvanderhik5774 10 ай бұрын
A honest review. I listened to these guys for over 30 years. I had the same with Return to Forever, another monster group you need to grow into it. When I first heard it, it was very complex, etc. Weather Report is a third major fusion group of the 1970s. They are more accessible I think, especially their later work, Black Market, Birdland. All these groups had musicians who played with Miles Davis. One thing I could never grow into is Free Jazz.
@philerrup9948
@philerrup9948 11 ай бұрын
Basically it's music for musicians by musicians. Namely guitar bass and drums.
@PedroMFont
@PedroMFont 11 ай бұрын
the fact that they are ridiculously great musicians doesnt mean that you have to like it maybe being in the concert changes the experience actually im pretty sure anyways a fan here pd: youre are very risky with the songs you choose to react thats new i love it thanks
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words 🩷🩷🩷
@luizjose778
@luizjose778 5 ай бұрын
Visions by emerald bayond narada ponty
@BarbarraBay
@BarbarraBay 15 күн бұрын
the drummer was/is the "greatest" - Billy Cobham
@DavePaterra
@DavePaterra 10 ай бұрын
Perfect assembly of talent Nothing better than this. However I understand your perspective here. Most people hate this stuff(all of my friends and basically everyone I know) however if you enjoy this there is nothing better.
@darrylguerrant5101
@darrylguerrant5101 11 ай бұрын
John McLaughlin, was a devotee of Sri Chinmoy. An Indian Buddhist guru. At this time in the early 70s, people were looking towards eastern mysticism, meditation, etc. Hence Chinmoy, baptized him with the name Mahavishnu. Carlos Santana, was also a devotee, he was baptized Devadip. Anyway, McLaughlin was already doing this before he left Europe to join Miles Davis, Tony Williams and then create the Mahavishnu Orchestra. So his demeanor was more measured and calm, because of the such practices. Ruth Underwood (Percussionist), for Frank Zappa's band during this time described McLaughlin as charismatic, they toured for a time and the MO was an opening act.
@darrylguerrant5101
@darrylguerrant5101 11 ай бұрын
No race is ever without anxiety for someone.
@darrylguerrant5101
@darrylguerrant5101 8 ай бұрын
Or chaos for that matter
@greaper1976
@greaper1976 11 ай бұрын
Double-neck guitar indeed
@etoineschrdlu9382
@etoineschrdlu9382 11 ай бұрын
Good reaction! Mahavishnu Orchestra can be an aquired taste - the opposite of Easy Listening Music - In fact, Difficult Listening Music. Not elevator music or K-Mart PA music. Their music is technical to an extreme and not always accessible to the ear of the popular audience. You have to be in the mood to do some "Out of the Box" listening. This is why my current favorite group is Band-Maid: they write and perform hard rock with clean vocals and memorable melodies that can be appreciated for both their simplicity and complexity. But you know that! I have many Mahavishnu Orchestra and John McLaughlin albums. Johnny was a huge influence on Prog Rock and Jazz-Rock Fusion in the sixties and seventies. At 81 years of age he still tours today. Johnny always played with a long list of great drummers. For John McLaughlin, this song is definitely one of his Controlled Chaos pieces, my favorite of which is "Phenominon: Compulsion"(with Billy Cobham) and it also sounds a triumphant mess! He does have more melodic music, but stylistically he goes all over the map, dipping into Indian Raga, symphonic orchestral compositions, Flamenco guitar, and a variety of Fusions. You can hear his influence on Eddy Van Halen in "Mean Streets" During this period Johnny was a follower of Chri Chimnoy, Transcendental Meditation, practiced yoga, and eschewed all drugs. He led his great friend Carlos Santana into Transendental Mediatation.
@scottwontorski1274
@scottwontorski1274 11 ай бұрын
Maddy, I think you were punked😂 thanks alot FRIENDS
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😆
@jordan0010
@jordan0010 11 ай бұрын
13:05 When you thought it would only be a silent fart🤣
@jordan0010
@jordan0010 11 ай бұрын
Keep being honest Maddy 👍😂
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@warriorpitbull1170
@warriorpitbull1170 11 ай бұрын
Very perceptive, Maddy. You're picking up on elements of early jazz that most people miss completely. As a guitarist.musician with 40+ years in the making, I'm amazed that you picked up the Miles Davis element so quickly. Much of the early jazz of the late 60s and 70s was extremely experimental. For the record, I agree with you about how the guitar sounds disjointed or as you put it 'a mess'. It relates to the 'race' but it's sometimes hard to listen to and effectually makes a din of the sound, but then when the pace picks up, the urge to groove with it becomes hard to overcome. LOVE your reactions! Keep up the amazing work, you're a star!
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Thank you 🩷🩷🩷🤗
@Raiderblack
@Raiderblack 10 ай бұрын
They were playing much of that in unison so how could it be that they were making it up... Jazz Fusion Masters ...
@Blue-qr7qe
@Blue-qr7qe 11 ай бұрын
That is a double necked guitar. If you look at the tuning pegs you'll see that one one neck has 6 strings and the other has 12. The guitarist can switch between them without having to change guitars. Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin used one in some songs.
@robertsullivan6246
@robertsullivan6246 11 ай бұрын
I heard Page got the idea to use a double neck from McLaughlin from whom Page had some guitar lessons.
@donnielsen154
@donnielsen154 4 ай бұрын
McLaughlin and the band is something not in the mainstream - they are fusion jazz/rock at a level of sophistication like Zappa
@JulioLeonFandinho
@JulioLeonFandinho 11 ай бұрын
John McLaughlin is very soft spoken even to this day, but I think that on that day he was high as a kite... well, more low than high, stoned after smoking something most likely. Those were the days
@philipbenner
@philipbenner 11 ай бұрын
Those were the days when McLaughlin was entirely drug free, if being high on the Supreme is stoned - then yes, John was as high as a kite!
@marrkhicks
@marrkhicks 15 күн бұрын
The point is the eclectic talent
@LuvHrtZ
@LuvHrtZ 8 ай бұрын
John McLaughlin is a great guitarist and a great composer. I haven't stopped laughing since you first opened your mouth. Keep 'em coming.
@eggburtdilusia9599
@eggburtdilusia9599 3 ай бұрын
Back in the day, I owned this album. I have listened to it many times. To understand this particular piece, you have to understand that John McLaughlin traveled to India and learned how to play music by counting cycles. The best way to explain it would be to listen to some Konnokal videos. This particular song IS harder to listen to than the rest of the album, but is is more a a "hey! Look what we can do!" song. Here is a link to some Konnakol (It's a counting technique from the classical music of India. It is taught and learned verbally, and based on the sounds of THE MOST AMAZING DRUM ON EARTH - the Tabla) kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6bVmZ2id9qgZtE also Here is a quote about the guitaris, John McLaughlin, couresty of Wikipedia: "McLaughlin's solo on "Miles Beyond" from his album Live at Ronnie Scott's won the 2018 Grammy Award for the Best Improvised Jazz Solo.[2] He has been awarded multiple "Guitarist of the Year" and "Best Jazz Guitarist" awards from magazines such as DownBeat and Guitar Player based on reader polls. In 2003, he was ranked 49th in Rolling Stone magazine's list of the "100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time".[3] In 2009, DownBeat included McLaughlin in its unranked list of "75 Great Guitarists", in the "Modern Jazz Maestros" category.[4] In 2012, Guitar World magazine ranked him 63rd on its top 100 list.[5] In 2010, Jeff Beck called McLaughlin "the best guitarist alive",[6] and Pat Metheny has also described him as the world's greatest guitarist.[7] In 2017, McLaughlin was awarded an honorary doctorate of music from Berklee College of Music" Thanks for at least giving this particular song a try. My favorite song off the album is "Inner mounting flame", by the way. Peace.
@charlesmyers8150
@charlesmyers8150 9 ай бұрын
Maybe Jan Hammer scored the movie you like. He wrote and played the Miami Vice theme and Jerry Goodman, violin, also scored movie . We get it, the 1st hearing of Mahavishnu is difficult. I prefer the studio albums. You should have listened to Inner Mounting Flame. They were the leading edge of jazz fusion, and there' 19:13 s a history to that with many musicians. Miles Davis to name only one. You seem like you would be a Return to Forever (Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke) fan. Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters, those are incredible jazz fusion bands. If you only like Beyonce and Taylor, well, not much chance you are a jazz fan. If you do Hendrix, and don't like it, then you are wasting our time.
@biorythmicshifter
@biorythmicshifter 2 ай бұрын
It’s like Limburger cheese, it stinks on first impression but once you develop the taste for it you can’t get enough…
@LuvHrtZ
@LuvHrtZ 8 ай бұрын
Art is not meant to be comfortable. It's not wallpaper. FFS!
@headofamonster
@headofamonster 11 ай бұрын
The look on your face for most of this was outstanding! 😂😂 This band is definitely not for everyone. Cool that you do appreciate the musicianship, though. Billy Cobham on drums = 🤯
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
True!!
@joeskorbinhorbinchuk3286
@joeskorbinhorbinchuk3286 11 күн бұрын
You have to remember that you literally walked into a sausage party, lol....the emerging Prog of the the day was typically a Male thing. It's "thinking" music, not "dance" music. Once you've surrendered yourself to that, just let the music take you somewhere. In this case, the anxiety of the "Noonward Race". I'd suggest you do more of these reaction videos, and here's some songs start off with, I'd love to see your reaction: Return to Forever - Vulcan Worlds Billy Cobham - Quadrant 4 Jeff Beck - Sophie Jean-Luc Ponty Live - Egocentric Molecules Enjoy, ✌
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 күн бұрын
Haha thanks for explanation 🩷
@calumm8639
@calumm8639 11 ай бұрын
Hello... and welcome to Jazz Club.
@seabud6408
@seabud6408 9 ай бұрын
It’s all about the energy of playing in the moment within the framework of the composition. I love the studio version and the other live versions I’ve heard . This will repay further listens no doubt, but as happens the first section was a bit out of sync. They play by the seat of their pants and that’s what makes being there special . Didn’t see this line up but the next in 1975. Fantastic band but this line up made up possibly the best live band of all time. Listen to Inner Mounting flame and Visions of the Emerald Beyond. Gives a sense of the sweep of both.
@littlealchemistolympics2884
@littlealchemistolympics2884 11 ай бұрын
Guitar and drums played w/ Miles
@stevedahlberg8680
@stevedahlberg8680 11 ай бұрын
She could do Al di Meola Suite of the Golden Dawn and absolutely be blown away and feel great about it.
@gareginasatryan6761
@gareginasatryan6761 4 ай бұрын
That’s the whole point. The song is very jarring and unpleasant. They have smooth pieces too
@94franz
@94franz 5 ай бұрын
11:20 check "The inner mountain flame" album/"meeting of the spirits" out
@stevejensen5112
@stevejensen5112 9 ай бұрын
This is about testing limits. For a "simpler" example of free jazz try Coltrane's Interstellar Space.
@rtornellort
@rtornellort 5 ай бұрын
One of the greatest bands to ever step onto a stage
@erikahlander3489
@erikahlander3489 11 ай бұрын
It was mean to let you start with this piece (but also a little funny...). It is appreciated that you didn't pretend to like it! First after listening to this kind of music at least some 5-10 times I can really appreciate (I have not heard this one before, but I have a number of other album since the 70s). I suggest that you start with some medium difficult, like Zappa from the mid 70s. Someone suggested "Cheepnis". "Inka road" is another starter. (But also Zappa composed realy complex weird things like "Amnerika"). You seems to have an enough open mind to be able to learn to like also this kind of music. But only if you want!
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
LOL 😆 I can’t pretend
@tonybaloneys
@tonybaloneys 9 ай бұрын
I remember getting this album when it came out. I loved this song the first time I heard it and every other song on the album. Being a musician and leaning into Jazz helped. Simply put, this is not music for most people. No dominant beat or vocals. The times were different. So many new styles and artists. I still listen to this album. That song is off "The Inner Mounting Flame" album. I'm surprised they could even play that song live. I think it's amazing. I would suggest listening to the entire album. It might help you to see it in a different light. In the 60's and 70's we wanted anything different. Zappa, King Crimson, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Gentle Giant, Yes, Genisis, etc. It was a great time for music.
@deanroddey2881
@deanroddey2881 11 ай бұрын
For one of the best tunes from John McLaughlin and the MO, check out the studio version of "New York on my Mind". It's such a great tune. It's really serious fusion, but so listenable and beautiful. A lot of fusion can get into that 'how many 16th notes can we put in a song" wanky type territory. But some of it can be really gorgeous.
@jopberlin
@jopberlin 7 ай бұрын
All that is composed, arranged and written by THE GUITARRIST !
@surfboard396
@surfboard396 3 ай бұрын
It’s okay that it’s not for you or you don’t like it or don’t get it. It’s a a fusion. It’s a feeling a vibe a real style. Not for everyone. Apparently you never been to a Jazz Club in the Village in NYC. Like Smalls Jazz Club or some others. We still love ya. 😅👋🏽
@frankiegarcia4343
@frankiegarcia4343 9 ай бұрын
Maddy, welcome to the world of Jazz Fusion that will test your ear limits and drive your mind nuts. These guys were the godfathers and the BEST. Only a music oriented person can understand what's going on and can handle a good listen. This song is about a chaotic race and it was written that way ! It's supposed to be messy and off key but it's all planned ! You're in Calculus when you are barely trying to understand algebra.
@ZalMoxis
@ZalMoxis 9 ай бұрын
This would of taken the top of your head off if you witnessed it live..... I've seen Billy Cobham live and the John McLaughlan Trio live as well.... they both smoked big time.....
@josexavierjr.5633
@josexavierjr.5633 9 ай бұрын
This is obviously not your cup of tea. This is hardcore Jazz Fusion performed by pioneers of the genre. This performance is from around 1971, and is performed a little differently from the studio recording. This level of playing shows improvisation that can be difficult to comprehend by most people. You either like this style of Jazz, or do not; electric Jazz sometimes can be dissonant and harsh, as heavy rock can be. Smooth Jazz it definitely is not. There is no calculated and safe playing involved; the improvisation shown by the Mahavishnu Orchestra is by no means “showboating”, but they’re taking it to a new level……almost 50 years ago, and still relevant today.
@jayumble8390
@jayumble8390 5 ай бұрын
I love John McLaughlin but the one issue I have (and always have had) with McLaughlin is that he always feels like he has to play FAST. Fast is great when used here and there but John misses so music by playing fast all of the time. Notice how the violin player sounds so much more melodic than John. It's because he plays rhythmically, slow passages and fast passages. So Maddy, your ears are hearing correctly. It's refreshing to hear someone not be afraid to call out a master. This is natural across all genres of endeavor. Masters aren't perfect either. -- very nice video content. Btw Maddy, please listen to Jean Luc Ponty's iconic classic fusion album 'Enigmatic Ocean'. If you haven't heard it, you will be blown away!
@AudioAtmos
@AudioAtmos 2 ай бұрын
You obviously have not listened to all his body of work.
@LarryHelmeczy
@LarryHelmeczy 11 ай бұрын
No one that I know of likes everything. But it's worth experiencing something of good quality that you might not immediately relate to. I was a Mahavishnu Orch fan back in the early 1970's; they didn't last long. I still appreciate John McLaughlin today. He just made an album commemorating his 50 years of playing classical Indian style music. The one who suggested this to you didn't do you any favors. There are more melodic songs by Mahavishnu and/or McLaughlin that you probably could have appreciated more. But as far as jazz rock fusion goes, Mahavishnu tended to be loud, heavy and technique driven.
@russmaddock614
@russmaddock614 11 ай бұрын
Ya just don't get it. Not your fault that you have a limited musical understanding
@jeffyoung801
@jeffyoung801 11 ай бұрын
Never could listen to more than 30 seconds of their 'stuff''.
@johnboydTx
@johnboydTx 11 ай бұрын
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@harmono8766
@harmono8766 2 ай бұрын
I think the songwriting improved over time but the hot playing is what put them on the map. I just prefer a Groove over the excitement of these interactions. Try Birds of Fire. It's definitely way out in left field. I love Jan Hammer and I'm a bit disappointed that you were not impressed with what he did.
@ElliottBack
@ElliottBack 11 ай бұрын
I've actually never seen this live performance so thanks for showing it. The record version sounds a bit more like what you're expecting.
@mikedemike5393
@mikedemike5393 9 ай бұрын
Jan Hammer was musical director for hit TV show 'miami vice'.
@ronniefarnsworth6465
@ronniefarnsworth6465 27 күн бұрын
There are Better songs of theirs on YT but if you can't open your mind to a broader "Sonic Universe" it really won't matter for you ! 🎶✌
@jwmeirose
@jwmeirose 10 ай бұрын
great video. Thanks!
@DefinitelyNotBender
@DefinitelyNotBender 11 ай бұрын
Its supposed to be erratic representing a race. Its Experimental Jazz/Jazz Fusion. Definitely not for everyone. I understand the technical mastery that it takes to make something so eradic but I myself cant even listen to more than one or two Experimental Jazz/Jazz Fusion songs in a single listen🤘🏼
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
Sameeee lol
@renemokum
@renemokum 7 ай бұрын
Never heard of this song, although I have listened to quite a few of their albums. Truthfully, I didn't care for this song either. I suggest to give their album 'Birds of Fire' a chance. Same band members, but much more cohesivess to the compositions. Another album I love even more is 'Visions of the Emeral Beyond,' with a different line-up of the band. The music sounds very different, is more accessible - although still unmistakenly having the Mahavishnu stamp.
@AudioAtmos
@AudioAtmos 2 ай бұрын
Just think the one thread of all these incarcerations is John McLaughlin. “The guy who doesn’t know how to play or write music”. 😂
@BuddyMohmed
@BuddyMohmed 11 ай бұрын
You must listen to the entire first Mahavishnu album, then you'll get it.
@dwill123
@dwill123 5 ай бұрын
No, she won’t.
@scottchapin2323
@scottchapin2323 11 ай бұрын
John McLaughlin has a wonderful mind when it comes to music, you need to hear more
@LockheedTutorials
@LockheedTutorials 5 күн бұрын
Even as a jazz fusion fan I've never locked into mahavishnu. Think they might be one of those bands that require many repeat listens to enjoy but I never really found a reason to. It never really impressed me either. They were really adored in the early 70s though and the lead guitarist was like a cult figure apparently.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 5 күн бұрын
Ahhh
@allendesalme197
@allendesalme197 11 ай бұрын
Haven't heard these guys for a while. McLaughlin is a great guitarist. Double necked guitar, but each neck has a head, usually called a "headstock." This is like bebop jazz, which sometimes sounds like a mess. He is doing exactly what he wants to on the guitar. It is like listening to Thelonious Monk or John Coltrane or, sometimes, Miles Davis too. Notice how the drums and guitar are playing right together. They could not be doing this if the guitarist was erratic. Think about it. Bebop is not always conventionally melodious.
@guillermobocanegra2399
@guillermobocanegra2399 3 ай бұрын
Totally off topic. I am glad you are a fan of The Holy Mountain. Alejandro Jodorowsky is one of my all time favorite directors. Check out El Topo and Santa Sangre if you haven't.
@douglasennis7291
@douglasennis7291 11 ай бұрын
Jazz fusion at its finest 😁🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ivonsmith2024
@ivonsmith2024 10 ай бұрын
hahahaha you dont know what youre talking about! John Mclaughlin is the most skilled guitarist rhythmically and he WRITES the music like this and Billy Cobham on drums reads whats been composed. Early Mahavishnu like this were known for dissonant music but mixed it with wonderful music. Look at Johns playing later - hes just finished a tour with his Indian band Shakti50 in Nov2023 and his other bands 4th Dimension & Quintet in 2023 - hes 82 now and plays amazingly - well known as one of the most advanced jazz fusion people ever for 50 years.
@ricardososa278
@ricardososa278 11 ай бұрын
Haces un juicio como si fueras un persona esperta,hacer juicio apresurado ,sólo demuestra tu inexperiencia!
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit 11 ай бұрын
John McLaughlin was influenced by John Coltrane and Miles Davis - both horn players. He didn't listen to other guitar players.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 11 ай бұрын
Weird track to start with. Not much experience with jazz rock or fusion and you go with probably the most relentless band out there, and not only that but with a live version of one of their most out-there tracks, that is super improvised and sounds pretty bad because it's an old recording. Kudos, I guess lol. Next time, maybe go for a studio version or at least a better recording of one of their more accessible tracks.
@MaddyReactions
@MaddyReactions 11 ай бұрын
lol my videos are all requests
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 11 ай бұрын
@@MaddyReactions Then my comment should go towards the person who requested it lol. Keep up with the videos, you seem nice.
@dwill123
@dwill123 5 ай бұрын
Listen lady, just admit that you got left at the starting gate. Do yourself a favor and don't listen to any more Mahavishnu Orchestra. Just stick to Taylor Swift and Beyoncé and you'll be fine.
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