Mahindra Hydro Vs. Gear Transmission Comparison

This video is about the difference between the Hydrostatic Mahindra 3016 and the gear drive Mahindra 3016.
Music: Razor Sharp by Pegborad Neards and Tristem

[@yachtwork]

Great info. Thanks for taking the time to talk, edit, and post.

[@B7-G2]

Great video. Thanks for clearing up the difference between the two.

[@kansascowboy5721]

Very informative to someone like me!!! Thanks for the education

[@rwbrock1]

Great videos! This is helping me decide on Mahindra. Greetings from Texas.

[@softail2k3]

Nice Video. I learned something!

[@rickgreenhalgh1357]

Thanks for explaining it in a simple practical way and hi from Wigan, England

[@denverferrell5217]

Good Video, Would suggest when demoing the Shuttle tractor to completely remove your foot from the clutch pedal. It does not take much force when riding a clutch to burn it out. I see this a lot in my field of work. Thanks!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Awesome Video! Thanks!!!

[@1941pearl]

Excellent review, thankyou from the Keystone State......................................Ken

[@dnsmithnc]

Sound quality is bad as mentioned but, a very good teacher.

[@dbadams354]

Accidently found this website and immediately put it into my favorites. I have learned more about the Mahindra versa other makes in just a few minutes of observing these videos than any other and am well pleased with what I have learned and will be visiting this site often.

[@webmasterflash2323]

I love you guys!!!!! Thanks Jeff!!!!

[@rahulkatare802]

I am ur 1000th Subcriber Love from INDIA 🇮🇳 thanks for buying my favorite brand Mahindra 😍

[@SimpleTek]

great video

[@Iexpedite1]

Very informative. I own an old gear driven tractor that is rated at 25 HP. A friend owns a bigger heavier 30 HP Hydro tractor. His machine wines and quits trying while mine will bury itself trying to do the job. We haven't directly compared but I think my tractor is capable of far more work than his.

[@comanche678]

Thanks for the information. Very helpful video.

[@whistle3man]

Great explanation. Thanks

[@peterbrunetto8062]

Great job, I like the gear tractor, little more work but I think it has lot of power!

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

A public comment. Anyone who says that the music is too loud, we know. If you look at our new videos, we have taken off the music. Also any more comments centered on that point, will be removed. Thank you.

[@seanmac3ee]

Great video! I was just about to suggest lowering the background music but you're on top of that. Subscribed now and plan to watch more.

[@Saxxonknight]

Was going to mention that. At the least, something more appropriate to the audience - doubt many people that listen to that kind of music buy and work machinery.

[@yashwantengineers2512]

Nice reply

[@chadmartfeld]

i like the video thanks jeff . i was really trying to find the info you mentioned about hydrostats wearing out over time compared to gears. big help in my purchasing decision. Being as i live way the hell up north in Saskatchewan a cab is pretty essential, wehat do you think of the cab quality on mahindra as well as the heater and a/c thx cheers

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thanks for your questions and for watching our videos. it is unlikely that you will find any information about the erosion of power that you experience with hydro tractors as they age, as manufacturers would not like to share that information. Remember as you consider that this erosion does not necessarily affect the performance of the tractor, but it is noticeable and therefore is a consideration that we like to make our customers aware of. As far as the cab quality, Mahindra's cab quality is certainly as good as anybody else, and the heater in our 2538 cab will run you out, even on a cold day. The a/c is the same way, even in the summer. Again, thanks for watching our videos.

[@jimmarchman]

Good tutorial.

[@semco72057]

The hydrostatic transmission is probably the best for most work and that is what I have in my newest tractor.

[@randyshaffer7062]

Have they changed the pedal design on the hydrostatic models on 2018 models? I think I saw a video that they did and they may have changed the seat and put arm rest on them I’m not sure can you answer these two questions

[@fargknob]

Thanks for the vid Jeff.

[@billygraham1541]

thanks for the info.

[@jh-lp7cg]

Welcome to the world's most exciting tractor training slash dance party channel on KZbin!!! Bloop boop bloop boop.

[@brianbacker7397]

thanks.. the video was informative and much appreciated. Only comment is, do away with the music.. it was distracting and in many cases, made it difficult to hear what you were saying...

[@mrblanche]

The swaying of the camera was making me seasick, but I really liked the helpful information.

[@borisrockyacres9990]

Hey guys, really cool video, thank you. On the shuttle shift, do you select gears standing still? What if you decide you need to go faster? Stop, select & go? Or like a car on the move? Thx in advance.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thanks for watching our videos and for your comment. When you want to change gears (like 1st gear to 2nd), it can be done "on the fly" (on the move) without too much trouble (just don't shift too fast, as you could jam the tractor into 2 gears at once). Just clutch, shift, and go! But when shifting from low to Medium or High, you need to clutch, stop, shift, then go.

[@dougerrn]

Just bought a hydro, my only complaint is the rocker set up they use. My foot is a 12 so there is very little room for your foot between directional pedals. You should not operate the tractor, like he shows his foot in the video, heel on reverse and toe on fwd, because this is dangerous because the foot placement is not stable during travel. Also you have to lift foot, knee and thigh to reverse. This may not seem like much but after hours of operation the right leg feels the stress. It is easier to lift half the foot to shift side to side(fwd or reverse). JD, LS and New Holland use the side by side setup but they are inferior in performance and or price value. One more thing; the LS (which makes or made McCormick, Montana, Farm Trac, and Taft) had the best pedal performance, as soon as you let off either drive pedals the tires stopped turning like full brake even to the point of skidding and stayed put even on grades. The rocker set ups seem to roll ever so slightly initially.Who knows how the rolling will be as hours and wear build up?

[@MacedonianAlmonds]

+doug pitt Couldn't agree more about the leg and knee stress after a long time operation and long journey stepping on gas pedal. Because of this I adore the hand throttle not only on tractor but also in my car cruise control (tempomat). I am talking about the regular gear system, I haven't drive the hydro gear yet.

[@TheVenom8343]

Doug, I tested out that exact setup when I bought my Mahindra. I absolutely hated that pedal setup!!! But I got on the Mahindra 2538 HST and it has the pedals side by side and that's the one I bought and I'm still pushing shit with her today.

[@shoresguy48080]

You forgot to add you lose 2 to 5 horse power having a hydro transmission

[@lonecedarfarm]

Looking into buying a compact tractor soon.Will be mowing about 3 acres.Thinking of buying something in the 25 to 30 hp,of course i will need a bucket for some work.My question is a mid mount or rear mounted mower?I have a riding mower now and think a mid mount would be the same.Everyone says the rear mounted mowers are much better.If i am only going to use the bucket 2 or 3 times a year and the mower once a week,wouldnt a mid mount be ideal.Love these mahindras.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

lonecedarfarm Thank you for watching our videos! A Mid mower is cumbersome for anything except mowing. But if that is your main job that you will be doing with the tractor, then perhaps you can justify the few times of inconvenience. Thank you.

[@awd3264]

I've been told it is best to keep your engine RPM up when using a hydrostatic transmission. Wondering what your opinion on this is?

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thanks for watching our videos. We own a hydro tractor and use it at our house. It goes faster, and has more pushing/pulling power, the higher the RPM.

[@chesterandchristiedavis7134]

I have a 2015 emax22 hst and my forward and reverse pedals are separate and side by side ...i love it not sure i would like forward and reverse on the same pedal....thinking of going to a 2018 max 26hst which way are the pedals on it?

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thanks for watching and for your comment. The 2018 max 26xl has the rocker pedal setup. Only the 2500 and 3500 series tractors have the 2-pedal setup.

[@keithbyrd10]

What would it cost me if the hydrostatic unit goes bad compared to the geared transmission unit? Thanks

[@sideskraft]

As long as the clutch pedal is not "slipped" often, will the shuttle transmission be as reliable as the hydro trans in the long run?

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thanks for watching our videos and for your question. The shuttle transmissions have proven to be very reliable over time. You are correct in saying that the clutch pesal should not be "slipped" because we have see instances where people who "slipped" the clutch too much, and ultimately compromised the clutch itself. Altogether, the shuttle transmissions have been very reliable. Again, thanks for watching our videos and for your comment.

[@richardcooley6018]

Enjoy the video. Next time, take the camera away from the guy that can not stand still and put it on a tripod. I was getting sea sick watching.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thank you for watching our videos. If you look at the new videos, you will see that we have stabilized our videos with a tripod.

[@kirbyvanduzer6565]

I want to get an e max with the shuttle shifter transmission so far mahindra is the only brand that I've seen that offers a shuttle shifter transmission in a sub compact tractor nothing against hydros I just prefer a manual and I like the price tag on the e max it's cheaper than a John deere mahindra makes the best tractors I can't wait to get my e max

[@rickk10000]

Any recommendations on transmission fluid for the Hydro if the Mahindra branded fluid is hard to come by? The Tractor Supply "Traveller Universal Tractor Trans Fluid" has "Mahindra" on the list on the back. Any thoughts on what will and what wont work well?

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Most universal hydraulic fluids are serviceable in a Mahindra tractor. However remember you always get what you pay for. The better fluids such as those sold by JD CIH and CAT are more expensive but they tend to have far superior water handling properties. The cheaper fluids like the ones sold at Napa and TSC tend to not do well when water inters the system. The most important aspect of this question revolves around the 5 year powertrain warranty. If your tractor is still within that time frame and develops a transmission problem, if the oil sample shows other than Mahindra, you have just given them an excuse to not cover expenses. I am not saying this will happen, I am just saying it could happen. Therefore chose your oils wisely.

[@rickk10000]

Golden Circle Implement Center There are other fluids mentioned in the owners manual but I spent several hours looking for any of them locally with little luck. Walmart, autozone, pep boys, NAPA all failed me. Online I noticed that most of the people who have found the alternatives live in Canada. I guess I need to make the 80 mile round trip to my dealer this weekend.

[@patrickevans801]

ebay is your friend, many tractor dealers have parts & fluids for sale on the site. it will cost you a little in shipping however you are not buying tractor fluids every other week.

[@robertjay0515]

Here ya go Rickk10000...www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/hydraulic-oil/synthetic-tractor-hydraulic-transmission-oil-sae-5w-30/?code=ATHQT-EA I've been using this in my Grasshopper hydro 25hp zero turn for several years now. Half the price of Grasshopper oil

[@alphaone101]

On the hydrostatic drive tractor how can you use the individual brake pedals when they are directly in front of the hydro treadle pedal? It looks impossible to do!

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

alphaone101 thank you for your question and for watching our videos. That is a good question. While most of our older tractors have brake pedals beyond the hydrostatic pedals, most of our newer models, the brake pedals have been moved to the left side. On models that still have pedals on the right, they have raised the pedals up to give more clearance.

[@TheVenom8343]

@@goldencircleimplementcente4395 Yeah, that pedal setup was VERY stupid. I tested one out for about 2 minutes then I got on the 2538 HST and bought it within 2 minutes and I'm still pushing shit with her today. I love that tractor!!

[@DmgNeville]

I'm about to buy my first tractor. It's down to two options. A new Case IH Farmall 35B or a new Mahindra MAX 36. both with FEL. I will mainly be running a small flail mower and doing loader work. Looking at both in HST. Whats everyone think i should go with?

[@kdegraa]

Take it to the MAX

[@jdh023]

What do you mean by "we see erosion in all hydrostatic brands" and how much does it typically cost to get it repaired/rebuilt or whatever you mean? Thanks. I'm trying to decide which to buy.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

+jdh023 Thank you for watching our videos, and thanks for your question. As the hydrostatic unit ages the pushing power erodes slightly with age. It is not that the units no longer function it is rather a perceivable decay where it once would spin all four tires and after 10 years it may not. It is not feasible to replace the units as they run in the thousands of dollars. Hope that helps

[@xcrow0]

+Golden Circle Implement Center I guess that answers my question, I need something that will last and perform longer than 10 years. Guess it's a shuttle drive for me. I'll deal with the inconvenience while mowing with a shuttle drive as my tractors main function will be mowing (belly mower) then bush hogging. Good video, good info.

[@jimbuford4147]

Of course, wouldn't it depend somewhat on how much the tractor is used. I have a Boomer 35 hydro and use it about 80 hours a year so would think the power erosion would be less than if I used 200 hours each year.

[@patrickevans801]

yes you are correct, the trans will last longer if you use it less per year.

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

The reason why hydro transmissions degrade, is simple wear and tear. Basically, the hydraulic motor and pump starts to wear and have less effective seals, and it becomes harder and harder to build up high pressure, which is what pushes the tractor. Think of it like with a bicycle pump, where the more air that's in the tire, the more air escapes around the valve when you compress the pump, because of the higher pressure. As long as the pressure is low, no problem. Once the pressure is high, you get "leaks" internally. And thus it won't push as hard as it did when everything fit well together.

[@saldegrado3397]

I have a (2014) 3616 how do I replace the battery? There is nothing in the manuals that show it.. Thank you for your time..Sal.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thank you for watching our videos, if you take out the front grill, you will be able to access the battery. If you need further help, you can call us at 888-559-0586 (we close at 4:30 pm CST and open at 7:30 am CST).

[@priyadarshisamantasinghar9911]

Is the camera guy on a swing?

[@ruthlessone3k]

How do you engage the diff lock on a hydrostatic transmission.

[@TheVenom8343]

On my hydrostat 2538HST, the diff lock is in the same place as all the other tractors. Hope this helps friend.

[@neckwizard1979]

I have a question, does a gear tractor automatically stop on grades when the clutch is pushed in, or does it roll until the manual brakes are pressed? I have hillside property and have always had a hydrostatic transmission tractor. I do like the fact once the pedal is released that the machine stops automatically.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thank you for watching our videos and for your comment. When you press the clutch pedal on a shuttle-shift tractor, if on flat ground, the tractor will roll to a stop. But if the tractor is on an incline, it will roll down (either forwards or backwards, whichever way it's sloped). When you press the clutch in a shuttle tractor, you are disconnecting the back wheels (and the front ones if the 4wd is engaged) from the power moving them, so they just roll freely until you re-engage the clutch. I hope this answered your question, if you have any more, call us at 888-559-0586. Again, thanks for watching our videos and for your comment.

[@jeremystiltner6781]

I like your video but at times it's hard to understand you with the music. My opinion is if you're going to do educational videos you don't need the distractions of the music in the background.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thank you for watching your videos and for your comment. If you look at our new videos, we have removed the music.

[@harbitude]

Thanks liked the video but I think I'm a little sea sick lol

[@asherdie]

can I get a low deck like the old new holland 545d

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

Thank you for your comment, Mahindra does not make low-profile tractors.

[@MrMikey1224]

Does the pedal stop at any point? If so it is not infinite.. Think about it..

[@roberthampton9581]

I was getting seasick with the weaving of the came

[@jamesrigler]

Anyone else notice he's wearing a CaseIh shirt while he's selling minhindras

[@guyward5137]

I will take a gear drive any day

[@BillatFRC]

It is almost painful to see the tractor dealers trying to push the foot clutch manual transmission (albeit with "Shuttle shift" lever for forward/reverse) versus the vastly superior Hydrostatic Transmission (for overall operating Speed, Ease, Trouble-free, etc.). I absolutely Love my Mahindra 1526 HST, so far providing me over 140 hours of reliability, power, traction, safety, amazing Results, low operating costs and FUN!! Please take the time to test drive the different models before pulling the trigger!! For me, the legroom issue on other model tractors became clear after a test sit/drive!

[@collinzappa1519]

hydroscrapit transmission :)

[@mrglock2313]

Is that Indian music in the background? LalalLLLLAAALALALl

[@Per409]

Hydrostatic trans won't last, doesn't matter the brand. When I hear it has a hydro I look the other way.

[@duncanstamps5183]

We got a Mahindra and we got a hydro we in Missouri cold spells happen without warning and apparently hydro fluid freezes, so we are going to take it to the dealer and swap a manual in

[@RMark-dv6ce]

Joshua, stand still, please. Rocking side to side is highly distracting.

[@goldencircleimplementcente4395]

R. Mark Thank you for watching our videos. If you take a look at our new videos we have started using a tripod and so our videos are less shaky.

[@launcook2849]

I don't understand why when your trying to make a video and you have poor sound to begin with - why you have to try and put music over top of it. Makes me not want to watch your video.