Mailbag: Best 1st Year Players, Ole Miss, Mizzou & Tennessee Natty Odds?

[@harrylegge4898]

Oklahoma is oversold

[@ronthecon9772]

OU is always loaded with talent.... now the question is are they up to par on the LOS? But never count out the Sooners.

[@svenkreuzberg2274]

you mean overrated Sir Harry or ?

[@andrewc7937]

Great show! Lots of fun

[@jmfbizzle]

MIZ has 3 OL coming back. 1 coming back that did play, but not a starter. Cayden Green starting LT from OU. Starting OL from SMU all AAC. Yeah our line is going to be great.

[@jmfbizzle]

I haven't missed a show in over a year.

[@ThatSECPodcast]

Can't say thank you enough for supporting the show!

[@jmfbizzle]

@ThatSECPodcast You're da man! For some reason my superchats are in Argentinian currency. Trying to get that fixed, lol.

[@andtheman12]

This show is a highlight of my week, every week!

[@ThatSECPodcast]

Thanks for watching!

[@Terrance3500]

This man used so many ifs when talking about Tennessee 😂😂

[@VFL603]

Mike every person you have on the show. Even cousin Shane you say they are wrong lol. Yep your crazy.

[@rickrhoden1]

I'm sorry, Mike, but Lane Kiffin did not bend over backwards to get the Bama job.

[@ThatSECPodcast]

He did indeed and Alabama never would consider him.

[@rickrhoden1]

@ThatSECPodcast Considering and bending over backwards are two different perceptions. Mostly it was pundit hype.

[@jjody4267]

He was literally in Tuscaloosa taking their players in the few days that job was open. They seem to confuse love of Nick Saban with love of Bama. P.S. The same people saying this told us he was leaving for Auburn.

[@rickrhoden1]

@jjody4267 And leaving for everywhere a job becomes open.

[@jjody4267]

@@rickrhoden1my favorite was them telling the FSU story like that was a done deal if Norvell had left for Bama. A team that’s not in the SEC, not on the beach and couldn’t make the playoffs after an undefeated season. 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jjody4267]

Lane is learning that we want him here badly, and if there’s something he needs to win, he only has to ask.

[@xliquidflames]

Hey, y'all. I just got home from five days in the hospital, hence my absence from the live shows. I got e. coli from something I ate. Zero stars. Would not recommend that experience to anyone. But I am home and recovering so all is well. Looking forward to watching the shows I missed. 8:23 I agree, Mike. The Gators are living rent free in Tennessee's head so Tennessee will overlook those Razorbacks and lose two in a row to Arkansas _and_ Florida. That _was_ what you meant by that, right? 40:17 My favorite punishment was a couple years ago when Cousin Shane had to sing that grand ole Gators fight song. Cmon, now, that was fun to watch and so, _so_ *satisfying.* lol Great show, fellas. Go Gators! 🟠🐊🔵

[@gatorfred8]

Man ecoli is rough. Hope you are feeling better. Go Gators.

[@ThatSECPodcast]

Sorry to hear about your visit to the hospital, that sounds rough. Hopefully, some of these shows will assist you in a small way as you recover!

[@doniphan72ify]

6 words ... Activated charcoal, Ivermectin, and Colloidal Silver.

[@jmjones7897]

Barry Odom is a solid human and decent Coach. He took over a nightmare at Missouri, glad to see him succeeding @ UNLV

[@Spartan-035]

I met him 2-3 times in Columbia, he’s a real gentleman.

[@jmjones7897]

​@@Spartan-035True Son, never doubted dedication to the Program.

[@jmfbizzle]

Love Odom. Was really sad he was fired. He really was putting something together. A bunch of bs calls & fluke stuff hurt him. He brought in 3 4-star QBs one cycle.

[@nathanstruble2177]

I wanna go ahead and dispell the "Missou easy schedule" myth. Yes, it is the 16th hardest schedule in the SEC, but it's the 32nd hardest schedule in the nation. NO Big12 team has a harder schedule than Mizzou. 101 teams have easier schedules than Mizzou. Sure, that means Mizzou can't really hold any hope of a playoff spot with only 9 wins. But 10 wins against a top 32 schedule is a pretty high bar to clear and should earn them some consideration

[@jmfbizzle]

Except MIZ always has a way of getting fd. Remember when KU went in ahead of us? 10-2 with a win over a 7-5 or 8-4 OU, & every other win being over a team with a losing record could be a prob, unless the two losses to A&M & ALA are 3 pt losses.

[@ronthecon9772]

@@jmfbizzle That is so true that was a con job it is unreal.

[@jmfbizzle]

@@ronthecon9772 It's almost every year. It's like battered wife syndrome, we just expect it at this point.

[@jjody4267]

I’m with Shane, there are G5 jobs that are better than Vandy. Until they start taking football seriously, I wouldn’t touch that job with a 10 ft pole. They have wealthy alumni and still aren’t making a dent in the portal. That tells you everything you need to know.

[@DavidHumphrey-p6m]

Bobby Hill will win 8 games. Kiffin 10 wins , Drink 8 wins

[@ThatSECPodcast]

King of the Hill is an underrated show

[@donaldbritt2210]

Today Texas is replacing the BIG12 logos on the fields and courts with the SEC logo. If we host a baseball regional, it may say SEC on the field. We probably will not host, unless expected attendance is very powerful. It was good to hear that July 1 is the oafishal date.

[@jmfbizzle]

MIZ! 16-0! QB check WR check TE check OLine check CB check SAF check LB check DL pretty much a check K unknown P iffy That's pretty much the team. If meavis was still on the team. I'd guarantee 11 wins.

[@andtheman12]

Can Shane’s next walk cover the first half of the Florida Tennessee game for 2023

[@srth7140]

Funny that people are asking who’s going to replace an 8th string walk-on undrafted free agent.

[@ronthecon9772]

The odds of Mizzou being undefeated is very very low..... even making the playoffs is gonna be a stretch. Bama, OU, Auburn, A$M and the always tough SC all got a tone of talent and could easily beat us. The over hype by the Press feels almost like a conspiracy to set us up to fail and then mock us.

[@jmfbizzle]

Dude the team is stacked. We're really that good & have all the things that matter.

[@ronthecon9772]

You don’t lose two NFL caliber CB, 3 starting DT a NFL caliber DE and 2 NFL Caliber OL, and your DC and DE coach and not have some questions marks and holes to fill. I know Drink and his staff brought in some nice TP players and the recruiting class was strong. But even with that each year is new, chemistry has to be built, development has to happen and different unknown variables do arise. To just assume we are going to achieve last years success is ludicrous and short sighted. Is it possible sure but is it a lock? Heck no.

[@jmfbizzle]

@@ronthecon9772 that's true for every team. ALA lost 59 players through the portal, NFL, & graduation. MIZ lost nobody of consequence through the portal. OU has the lowest returning production in the SEC & 5 new OL, as well as a QB that's started one game & was awful. A&M has almost an entirely new team. As for the NFL guys...every one of them was a 3 star or no star recruit. They coached those guys up & evaluated talent properly. Baker did not assemble his roster, it was already there. On offense we have 78% returning production. OLine we have 3 returning starters, & one returning rotational guy. 56% of the snaps returning. It's important to note that we have Kayden Green the OU starting LT with over 600 snaps last year added. And the SMU All AAC Bryant who had a bunch of offers & visited TT, TCU, WAS, etc. Just about any team would have taken him but he wanted to actually play. He gave up one sack last year. He's a 5th yr guy this year with 29 starts under his belt. Along with Reichart, Walters, Heismeyer & other guys ready to step up. The OLine situation is as good at Mizzou as any other SEC team, & better than most. CBs? I think Norwood is just as good as the guys who left, so is Clarke who was bigger for us than Rakestraw last year who was injured for 5 games. Toriano Pride might be better. McNeil will have a breakout year. The CB room is great. At SAF we're deep with Charleston, Burks, & Johnson all returning. RB obviously we all love Shrader. Honestly though the OLine & run zone scheme, along with having to keep the box empty due to our WRs accounted for a lot of his yards. He was hardly touched until he was 3 or 4 yds past the LOS. We have a ton of young 4 star guys, as well as maybe the top RB in the portal on the team, as well as the app st guy who might be better. WR best in the country. QB top 5 in the country. TE 1 for sure & maybe a 2nd NFL guy. The offense is stacked. The rest of the defense is great as well. Our LBs are better this year. Many are concerned about DL. The defense was highly rotational last year. So most are back. Charleston is back. He was the 2nd leading tackler at 61, the head guy Carlies had 63. Then you have 14 guys with between 25 & 55 tackles. Robinson is gone with his 8.5 sacks, but JWJ is back with his 5, Gaddy with his 4, & 12 guys with 1 or more sacks. 9 ints, 5 of those returning. 13 guys with a FF, most returning including JWJ with 3. Almost every guy on the def started last year or played significant minutes in rotation. Plus we added a bunch of guys like Flag LB MIA, McLellan DL FLA, Young Edge MSU, Smith Edge UGA, Webb .89 DL, Kelly DL GT, Beasley LB MIC, Jacob's LB S.ALA that ALA wanted. Every one of those guys was highly sought after, not some bum low level depth piece. The team is stacked, & will be better this year with an easier schedule. Making the playoffs isn't a stretch. We'll be favored in every game besides @ALA, & a slight underdog @A&M. Your analysis is flawed. The team is stacked with no holes at every position except Kicker & backup QB, who are unknowns. 10-2 is the floor, 16-0 is the ceiling. MIZ!

[@ronthecon9772]

We have holes at DB, Norwood while serviceable is not at KAD or Rakeshaws level, Pride is a unknown be wasn’t a killer at Clemson and was being phased out hence we got him in the TP. As I said we lost 3 studs at DT and Webb,Gracial,Marshall, are not SEC tested yet and McClellan aTP from Florida was a top notch performer for them either. DE spot has Walker Back outside of that the Freshmen are more than likely a year away from meaningful snaps, Zion Young was marginally productive for Mich. st but not a Robinson, Moore is OK we will see about the GT transfer as well he has bounced around a lot he is a complete who knows. Hicks and Newsome are Solid but now OC can dissect game film and exploit their weakness they are not as physically gifted as Hopper and that can be exposed. We will see about the South Bama LB, Flagg is a solid back up but not a difference maker by any stretch? Safety should be good. You need to stop reading recruiting analysis and press clippings and assuming that that players production will match the hype. On offense you have zero proof Green and Bryant will have smooth transition to the OL or that it will be healthy all season long. Last year it took C-Johnson till mid-season to adjust and M. Johnson was a massive bust! Same goes for RB Noel or Carroll they both could be the Next Peat at Mizzou "all would have could have and should have" but minimal production! You are just blindly accepting that every Transfer portal player and every player on the roster will have the same or better production than the player they are replacing. It very rarely works that way. You don’t have to post all those stats either I have access to them as well. I know them to. But my analysis is based on production as opposed to hype and hope. When you say this teams floor is 10-2 I naturally access you’ve never played or coached a down of football and more than likely blew a tuba in the band. Even with our weak schedule we are a couple of injuries, FIPS, and missed FG away from 6-7 wins. And I’m not even considering the fact that all the new guys might not be as good as the guys they replace production wise if they are not man it could be real rough. If the DB and DT underperform even a slight bit then that is worth 3 losses right there. Your not being realistic at all your just sunshine pumping. Plus you are also acting Like the New DC and DL coach are gonna perform as well as Blake and the Old DE coach. That might well be bust's. It's 50/50 at best they are just a push. Sure we can win 10 games. Jeez we could go undefeated and in my life time of 50+ years for Mizzou statistically this is our best chance ever for that. But it's still a low percentage we will do so.

[@rjenkins66bj]

How do you think the lawsuit, That every SEC team will be on the hook for the 30 million will impact each SEC team.

[@matthodges2892]

Taylen green is from boisie st not Fresno st. WPS

[@mimixownzall]

Besides "Hook 'em", what is the most annoying saying by fans and why is it "Gig'em"?

[@WillLentry]

Mizzou has a SOFT Schedule. And I say they still go 9-3. I ain't drank the Drinkowitz kool-aid just yet. He is a coach who has the ability to foul this season up with a talented roster. So I am leaning toward that scenario in my mind. My Cats got Mizzou off their sked and the SEC replaced them with Texas and Ole Miss. Thanks a LOT.

[@jmfbizzle]

You're a KSU fan?

[@ronthecon9772]

@@jmfbizzle UK I'd say

[@jmfbizzle]

@@ronthecon9772 I thought KSU were the Cats.

[@svenkreuzberg2274]

What did he say ... Ole Miss National Championship --> Joke of the year .... NEEEEEXT ! Kiffin never won a big game in his life as HC and he does not have the Talent at Ole Miss to even sniff on a Natty. Btw dear Rebells, we just ended your season in baseball. Have a nice summer

[@jjody4267]

Cry harder. It’s going to be a long year for you.

[@svenkreuzberg2274]

@@jjody4267 i dont cry, why should I ?

[@harrylegge4898]

Kiffin is in like Flint at Ole Miss

[@harrylegge4898]

Dawgs would have to incur unconscionable injuries for a 9-3

[@CoachMike-wi4dd]

I keep hearing folks say the SEC will have up to six teams in the CFB playoffs. I don't see how that math works. If you take away the 4 conference winners (assume Georgia is SEC) plus the special needs slot for the JV conferences that leaves you with 7 spots. I assume Notre Dame will also take a spot leaving 6 left. I can't see the committee giving 5 of 6 to the SEC; more likely 3 of the 6 for a total of 4 SEC slots. What if there are upsets in the conference championship games? Say TCU is undefeated and ranked in the top 5 but loses to Ok State in the Big 12 championship; won't both teams make the playoffs? Same thing for Clemson & FSU. There will also be pressure on the committee for TV considerations - they will take a west coast team over a fifth or sixth SEC team in most years. My point is expect more controversy and disappointment. I think the most likely is 4 SEC teams in the playoff.

[@harrylegge4898]

Kiffin gets $9M/yr thru ‘26 w/rollovers

[@harrylegge4898]

UK is UT’s trap game

[@harrylegge4898]

No NFL for Kirby😎💀

[@shawnmount2685]

I would be more confident in MIZ if Blake Baker was still DCor. This is the question mark that needs to be answered. Will there be a fall off on defense side of the ball?

[@ThatSECPodcast]

Good call, that's not being discussed enough

[@KingKyle_1996]

They hired batoon to replace him so I dont think they will fall off he was a good dc for south alabama(yes g5 but was with 2 and 3 stars)

[@jmfbizzle]

It's interesting that the S.Ala LB came to MIZ to play for his DC instead of his HC @ALA. We're gonna be fine. We got the right guy.

[@shawnmount2685]

@@jmfbizzle I hope so. I haven't watched S Ala play at all so I'm out of the loop and have to wait till I see the first couple games. The LB they came over says alot Because Ala and Auburn were also wanting him.

[@jmfbizzle]

@@shawnmount2685 There were 10 major programs trying to get him. The fact that he HC is the DC at ALA, & the DC is our DC, & he chose MIZ is telling. There's nothing more elite about MIZ over ALA. They're way further along then we are. It had to be the DC.

[@saturnosiris1221]

Arkansas doesn't stand a chance against Tennessee. However the Razorbacks like a lot of other teams that are not supposed to this year will beat Missouris overrated ass!

[@Spartan-035]

That was the cutest comment ever. 8-2 since joining the SEC.

[@jmjones7897]

Hmm. Smells like CAFO. Got a bit of brown corn stuck in your teeth there bud

[@ThatSECPodcast]

The guys over at Matrix analytical (they are correct on over 70% of their game predictions and they make them in the spring) have Tennessee at Arkansas as a 50/50 game.