Mailspring Is An Email Client For Windows, Mac And Linux

Mailspring claims to be the "best email client for Mac, Linux and Windows." Is this true? I don't know. Until recently, I resisted trying Mailspring because it was not fully free and open source. That changed a few days ago which is great! I needed a replacement for Thunderbird.
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[@subfloor2022]

$8/month seems steep for just an email client. I'd prefer a one time purchase since they aren't actually hosting anything for me.

[@sazonovps]

hi-fiving for a one time purchase

[@dougtilaran3496]

get a bunch of signatures together for a yearly fee discount...say 59.95 or so. They might offer it up to get a heavy amount of USS pesos all at once for the project.

[@Milena-bh8bc]

name checks out

[@Seigler]

Yeah I used mailspring when it first came out but since it's $8/mo I switched from it. It's a great client but a subscription for this app is stupid.

[@sidetraksidetrak879]

If you click( just the basics), you do not need to make an account and it is free. Located below where you would make an account.

[@catomajorcensor]

One problem: Electron.

[@DistroTube]

That's a feature, not a bug. ;)

[@SpaceTimeBeing_]

Jvm > electron.

[@catomajorcensor]

@@SpaceTimeBeing_ You really shouldn't use either, but yes I agree, the JVM is better than Electron.

[@gr33nbits93]

Why you say that? sorry my noob question, but what do you mean by electron?

[@catomajorcensor]

@@gr33nbits93 Electron is a JavaScript (🤮) framework that enables you to make a "cross-platform" application with JS. It comes at a cost though - your application bundles the entire Chromium browser (and possibly Node?), which in turn makes downloads larger and memory usage go through the roof. Other applications that use Electron include Discord and Signal's "desktop" version.

[@sharjeel_mazhar]

You're doing a great job, and you really are one of those people who inspired me to shift to linux, BTW big fan of you sir❤

[@davebrowning9290]

I have been running a Linux server for some time. Thanks to watching DT, I'm doing more with desktop Linux.

[@luciusblue4565]

I fail to see the benefit of using this software. Requiring an account to read/send email that is hosted on my email server seems shady to me personally. People need to earn money, that is understandable, but at 8$ a month it costs more to read your email with this client than host it.

[@caubert]

No Calendar, no PGP, forced advertizing (PRO features) and signin... Thunderbird stays

[@daniloscapellato]

I have never understood the reason to use an Email Client. I just use two e-mails and for basic usage. I prefer to access the website of the service, log-in and that's it. Why would I need an application for that?

[@enthusiastic_thinker]

Window management is easier than browser tab management. Unified interface and wider feature list is useful also.

[@DistroTube]

There are many reasons to use a desktop email client. The biggest reasons are (1) sometimes you want to access your emails offline, and (2) most people these days have multiple email addresses, often through multiple providers, so being able to check them in one place is pretty sweet! Oh....and (3) you won't be bombarded with ads like you are in most webmail sites.

[@enthusiastic_thinker]

Also mail spring has snooze functionality and interlocutor indentification tools

[@starrwulfe]

Microsoft doing FOSS software: VS Code. PowerShell .NET Typescript Windows Calculator (lol)

[@daniloscapellato]

@@enthusiastic_thinker For me this is bloat.

[@mathematicalninja2756]

It’s built in electron so nah. No need to have JavaScript in my file system

[@pt60000]

-posted using javascript

[@davidr2421]

@@pt60000 Your car runs on gasoline, but that doesn't mean you want gasoline in your living room.

[@mathematicalninja2756]

@@davidr2421 haha 😂 awesome

[@katech6020]

@@davidr2421 Awesome joke

[@makosful96]

The one problem I have with MailSpring right now would be the fact they require an account to use. It's the same reason I switched from Postman to Insomnia for developing API's

[@leroyjs222]

This is the only thing keeping me from trying out Mailspring. I don’t want to sign up for anything.

[@Aemulatius]

Did u try PostWoman ?

[@dpdaan]

I've been using mailspring for a while now and it's pretty good. Easy to use and a pleasant UI. Sucks that it doesn't support pgp though, and the notifications when someone opens an email are kinda creepy

[@aaronschwartz-messing4701]

Great video! I chuckled every time you said "I don't mind paying for free software" (yes I know you mean free as in freedom)

[@M1America]

why would you use this when you could just copy ~/.config/evolution/ to your new computers and everything from your accounts to DAV transfers.

[@megaoyi1Wins]

I liked it a lot! But I have always hated the subscription models over the "Pay one time" ones, it is a shame that there are so many of these nowadays, and I think it appeals to what Luke Smith said about "constantly loosing more control over our machine".

[@ez5201]

The worst thing in Mailspring is that it has an annoying bug: sometimes it loads my CPU up to 100%. Mainly after it launched during synchronization. It is a very old bug and it is still not fixed. Anyway, Mailspring is the best email client for me in Linux. Thank you for the video!

[@davebrowning9290]

I will have to check Mailspring out. I have been looking for something like this, as I have one foot in the Windows world and one foot in the Linux world.

[@adamsinger77]

I'll have to check this out. At work I have been using mainly neomutt and while amazing and super fast my job just switched over to a new CRM that sends my daily tasks in a really annoying HTML only format that is just unreadable in neomutt. Just this past week I tried out claws, evolution (which has been my goto with my personal emails since I don't live in my personal emails it did the jobbut feels clunky for my work emails) also Geary and Thunderbird. All of them have too many quirks or just don't feel right. I am so looking forward to checking this one out!!! As always Love the videos!

[@Scootphoria]

I'm a Linux noob, but it looks to me like Mailspring is collecting metadata from all emails. Why is the client contacting Mailspring servers for NON-Pro services which they say is only needed for Pro services?

[@MyRASTABAN]

Works nice, on aur there is a fork that cuts dependency on mailspring account

[@sidetraksidetrak879]

If you click( just the basics), you do not need to make an account and it is free. Located below where you would make an account.

[@LeonVQZ]

I have been looking for a good email client for a while! I believe you can use the pro features a couple times a week. Went ahead and took the theme you made and customized it to my liking!

[@JHACbiz]

I started using it on my office windows machine a few weeks ago and when setting up my new arch machine I checked and it was in the AUR...I do like it thus far. I like the creepy notifications that your email was read. Running a business that helps. Not paying 8 dollars a month though.

[@Jammet]

I'm fine with paying once for the program and all, but a subscription. No. I tired of that. I have way too many subscriptions already.

[@luciusblue4565]

I could not agree more. SaaS certainly has it's place, but the trend to turn every little piece of software (or anything else for that matter) into a subscription is getting out of hand. 5.99 this, 8.99 that, 29.99 for the whole family, it never ends. Heck, they even have subscription plans for womens shoes these days. It is mindboggling really :p

[@luciusblue4565]

@Matt M I don't mind paying and purchase business licenses for FOSS projects quite regularly. However, a subscription based *email-client* is not a proposition that agrees with me, so I won't be a customer. If I *were* interested in this particular program I would much rather buy it once and then get a new paid release/upgrade later. Not everything needs to be a "service" with a "we are going to milk you forever" sticker.

[@praetorxyn]

A nice looking cross platform e-mail client with theming support, that actually themes e-mails too? That's definitely worth a look. Thanks DT.

[@markbusekroos9805]

Bluemail is a nice alternative for Linux, Mac, Android, Windows. Works great on my Arch setup.

[@jomango1929]

Hi Mark, How many accounts can you create with the free version ? Thanks.

[@notionpicture]

I used to have Mailspring, really nice design and features. One big problem though, when in idle the app will start using almost 100% of my cpu for no apparent reason, back then I was a more novice computer user and I didn't know what was going on my pc. But I could hear the fans spinning up and the computer lagging a lot. I discovered that Mailspring was the problem and once killed the app everything went normal (cpu usage, ram). Now knowing what electron is and that it was most likely the source of this weird behavior I'm never installing that again. Thunderbird gets the job done and yes I believe it looks good. Thunderbird looks ugly and outdated on older versions, most linux distros are using version 68, and I think this is the main reason of people complaining because of looking outdated. But on the latest version (78) looks quite decent.

[@pululo98]

You can't differentiate between accounts it should have the ability to apply a color to each account.

[@Hilariokinyo]

Mainspring has always advertised as Opensource so that was what made me download it. I never knew a part of it (the syncing service) was closed source before you made this video. Ive been using it for a long time, I highly recommend it. Now that it just got better going full Opensource It’s a really good option I use it everyday.

[@marioschroers7318]

I was very sure that Mailspring actually was a proprietary program. I was interested in it once. Still using Thunderbird, and looking into mu4e. Edit: You just mention it's being GPLed! 😂 Edit 2: The mandatory account is still a deal breaker for me.

[@andreaszautner2366]

I am just using KMail and it's fine.

[@texaslinux]

Mailspring is a fantastic email client. I started using it a couple of weeks ago and love it.

[@bluekeybo]

Their Gmail IMAP sync is very bad, failing constantly. Also the search doesn't search the email content of older emails, and that's a deal breaker for me.

[@jayweisserose9407]

Simple question: does Mailspring support Enigmail/ PGP/ GPG? Asking for a friend.

[@thehibbi]

"Just look at it" - *light theme*

[@lucal7756]

Thank you for this informative video

[@letscytex]

You can use them now without a mailspring account

[@dougtilaran3496]

I've run it a few days and like it. Derek likes the pane options... a tiling email client !!! ;-)~

[@sinstreams]

Personally, I didn’t like thunderbird. When using proton bridge, I was trying to find an email client to work with. When using thunderbird, the issue I was seeing was UI and how sometimes too many features can make for an awful experience. Thunderbird seems a bit more steadfast and simple which is what I want from an email client

[@tarpan360]

Folks from Mailspring are doing a good job, but there are still some things that prevent me from using it: I don't like the beginning of a message in the message list (cannot be disabled) and 8$/month is way too much for some additional features, of which I would use few. It doesn't even have a proper read receipt, but a hidden image - doesn't work in plain text messages.

[@jeehaa7099]

Wouldn't an open source application with a GPL license with artificial limitations for the free version like 4 mail addressez ask for a fork?

[@lmnystpd]

I like mailspring as a mail client and that they'e going full open source is amazing! The only thing I really dislike about it is that there still is no proper PGP/SMIME support. :c

[@PenguinEye]

Hey DT. I wonder if you have considered doing a few vids about setting up a no X Linux machine? What software would you run and would you set up a "tui wm" using something like. tmux? I recently installed Manjaro on one of my laptops and uninstalled lightdm to make the machine boot into CLI. Then I installed tmux and have started to configure it to my liking. I watched a bunch of YT clips on tmux but they all showed tmux running in a terminal emulator in a gui de.

[@smisantos]

I know that the point is multiple platform. But for Linux i prefer Evolution. It supports EWS, and for those who work on companies with Office365 it's a must. No support from Mailspring to Calendar and Directory.

[@phr3ui559]

yes

[@learningbird9940]

Hi Derek! Mailspring is an Electron app and we know what the consequence is in terms of the cpu and memory usage, especially since Nylas Mail, the parent app also seemed to have huge cpu and ram consumption. So what are you experiencing with Mailspring in terms of cpu and memory usage?

[@danr8472]

He probably switched back to Thunderbird. Mailspring like blue mail is resource hungry and it gets worse and worse over time. To top it it all off, Mailspring offers just an email client, no address book, no calendar or task management options.

[@gr33nbits93]

Why looking for an alternative for Mozilla Thunderbird? And is Mailspring an alternative a real one?

[@alexas8787]

Thunderbird collects telemetry, you can turn it off but question is - Does this really turned off ?

[@ranska2506]

Cool ! Now I'm more curious, is there something similare for terminal ? Just because I like terminal.

[@WaynoGur]

Hmm. Having to create an account is a no sale for me. What about security? That is also an issue.

[@n4p3r0]

I like neomutt

[@roembol]

You should check out mailspring-libre!

[@friedrichdergroe9664]

There is Mailspring libre. Will be evaluating this one first. "yay -S mailspring-libre"

[@LordChaos1973]

No calendar support is a deal breaker for me.

[@davidjackson7675]

Real gurus use Mutt. :)

[@Realswagoverlord]

Pity it doesn't work with exchange/outlook emails.

[@jaxxarmstrong]

As a heavy Thunderbird user I have to say that the GUI is really REALLY very close to what Thunderbird is/looks like. Why would I use this one in comparison? Just curious To me this is just some entity taking the Thunderbird source and created a version with telemetry trying to make a buck off the community's effort. No, thank you.

[@kaerithmallock]

electron-mail is nice and customizable

[@lifebarier]

Since thunderbird killed off enigmail and now wants me to import my gpg keys into their keychain I am in market for good email klient. So far KMail is good but confusing. Might try neoMutt

[@GeoNeilUK]

What do you think of BlueMail? I only have two email addresses and I don't think they have a subscription service (also, I'm pretty sure it's open source) I use it, but it is a Snap. They have an AUR, but that's based on the Snap. The other email client I like on Linux is KMail, but that's really for KDE and I'm currently using Cinnamon.

[@siwiecministro1994]

Atrocious/non-existent scrollbars, no option to have POP3 account. Has it really come to this? SAAS is bad. I'm all for paying for the software, but not to allow ourselves to be taxed.

[@louddesignstudios]

no PGP/GPG support out of the box! no addons browser yet

[@WaynoGur]

Yeah. That was a deal breaker for me too.

[@mixinginthebox]

Oh nice, love Mailspring.

[@TheMostTruth]

Installed it via snap, not unhappy!

[@danielc9814]

You should take a look at the Aerc email client (terminal) IMO it's better than mutt and thunderbird.

[@Cap683]

At this time Mailspring does not natively on Apple silicone.

[@edjupp6643]

the guys who made Mailspring interface should join linux DEs teams. I believe in them, would be a great upgrade! I suggest KDE's (my fav DE).

[@phloxpaniculata9550]

There's one popular DE aesthetically similiar with Apple products design and it's not your KDE.

[@themagicrabbit1877]

Isn't it SMTP only? Probably not a problem for most people, but my email vendor only supports POP3 still.

[@DistroTube]

IMAP only (and SMTP for outgoing). POP is an older protocol. Most email providers use IMAP these days (or offer both POP and IMAP). If your email provider only uses POP, then I would consider finding a new email provider.

[@themagicrabbit1877]

@@DistroTube Cheap local company does the hosting. It's not really worth switching hosting unless I wanted to do it myself, which I don't yet. Am I dumb? Yeah, probably. It's definitely not on the mail clients to support a legacy protocol. I'm absolutely not complaining about Mailspring's choices. I don't personally need the ability to check mail from more than one place, so POP is still fine for me.

[@valandilvieneriff9229]

Isn't the MailSync thingy what does the actual email sync ? so technically you are syncing all your mail accounts into an online service by MailSpring and then connecting to it via the client ? if so it kind raises a privacy concern for me especially with work emails that i wouldn't want any third party gathering any data about !

[@michaelmcdonald3275]

What's not great about gnome evolution?

[@legalize.brokkoli]

Good software, but Gnome Foundation

[@BadWolfPlays66]

Good video. Thanks. I'll stick with Geary.

[@starrwulfe]

@ 11:30 - Examples of Microsoft doing FOSS software: VS Code. PowerShell .NET Typescript Windows Calculator (lol)

[@jorgeeddde7080]

VS Code doesn't count as FOSS, code.visualstudio.com/License/

[@starrwulfe]

@@jorgeeddde7080 you’re right, But you can still see the code for it and nothing is stopping you from making an add-on or making an entirety different editor loosely based on what you see. More importantly though, it’s a reproducible build that you can verify and make sure no bugs or malware were injected.

[@jorgeeddde7080]

@@starrwulfe You are right there. Another option would be use VS Codium

[@starrwulfe]

@@jorgeeddde7080 forgot about VS Codium! Thanx!

[@VMateus72]

What is your problem with thunderbird. What is that you dislike on thunderbird that isn't worst on mailspring. You are getting a little pickie . . .

[@jayazhane7374]

Use neomutt

[@truevaldeg]

Takes time to figure out how to config it, I'm way too lazy. Sooner or later I guess.

[@jayazhane7374]

@@truevaldeg Luke Smith has a script that will install it all in about 5 minutes

[@lucianoolmedo961]

@@jayazhane7374 I use mutt-wizard on neomutt as well

[@jayazhane7374]

@@lucianoolmedo961 it's really cool, I had some trouble initially figuring out how to change the colors but now I've got a theme that matches the rest of my desktop environment. And it's actually free as in gratis. And you can add up to 9 accounts and you DON'T need to use "[e-mail]" for instance I pair it with Mail-in-a-Box to host my own email server and basically only pay for hosting

[@texodus_et6313]

Connection Error - Unable to connect to the server| port you provided. for SMTP setup. Any thoughts or workarounds?

[@MyurrDurr]

The UI is very MacOS-like. The icons and the header bar design is very Mac That menu bar ontop definetly looks out of place

[@arorei]

I'll just stick to my trusting browser, thanks

[@truevaldeg]

Last time I used it it lagged terribly. I'd call it best looking one (still arguable), but definitely not best one.

[@chief5145]

i use it with x220 which we all know is not a powerhouse anymore and no lag for me, works pretty good

[@jayazhane7374]

How is it FOSS if I'm forced to pay for full features

[@DistroTube]

Free as in freedom, not free of charge. www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

[@jayazhane7374]

@@DistroTube thanks!! Never understood that. I'll check out that link.

[@MarkHobbes]

It's because it's FOSS it should be totally free (as no cost)

[@B-a_s-H]

​@@MarkHobbes 'free' and 'gratis' are two different things. One doesn't imply the other.

[@AXYGaming]

I have the same question

[@edjupp6643]

Q: if this is an open source program, is it possible to edit the source code and make the feature (unlimited accounts) free so everyone can enjoy all Mailspring features without spending a dollar?

[@DistroTube]

Fork it and do what you want with it.

[@edjupp6643]

@@DistroTube Ok ill do it . i need just one thing, learn programming...

[@HeyItsXena]

thank you for this.

[@ralphmiranda2077]

Does Mailspring have the ability to play gatekeeper for choosing to connect to third party hosting/tracking services like Thunderbird can?

[@AliXDream9]

How can I delete unwanted folders like Unread and Snoozes folders ?

[@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929]

How would they restrict features to a paid version while being FOSS? Obfuscated code? SaaSs? Either way it seems to cast doubt on it actually being FOSS

[@katech6020]

The code is FOSS, but you still need to interact with their servers

[@tonyrivera6692]

I can't figure out how to sort the email. This is essential to deleting groups of email or filtering emails by senders. Any ideas?

[@jcortest]

didnt show calendar

[@zoo8music]

No calendar! How can this be even recommended? $8/month for No calendar support - No, no .. nope! Bluemail - seemless integration with gmail, outlook and office 365 unlike mailspring.

[@sanketsarode]

Thank you.

[@bruhmoment-42069]

Have you tried neomutt?

[@AShortBusVet]

Okay, question: how does this differ from something like geary?

[@AndersJackson]

Hh, DT pronounce Snooze like Snus (with a bit to long U sound), which is a tobacco product used most in Sweden and Scandinavia. ;-) Yes, make an income for a service and develop an open source software to their service are not a OSS problem. It is like it should be done.

[@Ebizzill]

labels, can my messages in list view have labels like gmail? ( my accounts are not gmail)

[@codedusting]

Can I share my data with them or not?

[@giuseppecapasso8558]

Good one!

[@edakimling133]

Mailspring is one thing. And sure, forgive. But Microsoft....please. We as community need to be careful. We know MS is in this for a long run. They could have ulterior motives. We need to be vigilant. For a long time I will view MS with utmost suspicion.

[@TarebossT]

Hey, DT, why is there a shadow on your bald head?

[@unclefester9113]

There isn't a "free level" ?

[@danr8472]

Mailspring is resource hungry and it gets worse over time. Stay with thunderbird, especially with thunderbird 102 coming out.

[@jorgemarcelo4708]

I mean looks nice but.. why shouldn't I just use the online gmail client? I really don't see the point of having something running on my machine for that

[@phloxpaniculata9550]

Because you are not the target audience for this product.

[@jorgemarcelo4708]

@@phloxpaniculata9550 who is the target audience? I know this isn't for me.. I'm just trying to understand the useCase

[@phloxpaniculata9550]

@@jorgemarcelo4708 I was going to answer you, but I forgot. Sorry. FYI I'm not native speaker. It would be a good idea to start with the fact that you are using the gmail online client. Let's break this into 2 parts, which is "gmail" and "online". About Gmail: - Gmail is a bit more of a service than a protocol. we like to use protocols in applications we like. - Gmail itself is owned by Google, more and more people are trying to escape their ecosystem for privacy reasons. Check out /r/degoogle - Gmail has features that I have little interest in, but none that I find useful. For example on GMX I have 10 free aliases. - Speaking of aliases, gmail is the most popular provider, so the best names have long been occupied. - As a result, my aliases have 3 letters.... and .it domain for example. About Online: - True native applications are definitely faster (I'm not talking about those based on electron) - I am a web developer and avoid online services as much as possible. They are sluggish. - You need the internet to look at emails. Some people use the mailbox for more than just news, like RSS. - You don't worry that one day someone will lock your account and you'll lose all your data. - People like us do backups. - I am able to send an email with a command from the console. It's convenient. For me. - Gmail online is incredibly slow (it used to not be that way) Web services are mostly created for people who don't want to use a computer, don't like to. A tablet with a keyboard is enough for them, as long as they don't get into technology. You also have to keep in mind that computers are complicated devices, and it's most complicated to simplify them for non-technical people. The most important thing for me is that my system on my computer is made by me on linux, perfectly for my needs. every service works the way i want it to. I created my ecosystem that syncs with my other devices. Google is an ecosystem for people who don't want to create their ecosystem. And they like being a product. Because the fact that it's free means so much that they're selling the information they have about you. Or they hold. Whatever. Even if they don't do anything with it, in case you become, say, an inconvenient politician, then they might already be useful. If you remember the internet 15 years ago, it's good to see how things have changed. Small sites have been dominated by a few large corporations who are a political force because they can manipulate what is displayed to you and use anything related to social engineering. If torrents and "hateful content" have disappeared from google, why should I believe that the same will not happen to other content that interests me? For example in gmail? Compare how easy it is to find torrents in DuckDuckGo. Some time ago I tried to send a .zip to someone and gmail scanned the content to "protect me from a virus". When you try to send something similar via messenenger there's a chance you'll get your account blocked for 24h by "suspicious content" (this is the case with executable files). You can still compare gmail to spotify. I'm a semi-amateur musician. I don't like the way spotify tries to dictate what music I should listen to. It talks about how there is everything out there. In reality there is nothing there. Well unless you listen to podcasts, because that's probably one of the main platforms for that. I have a variety of music on disk in the best quality that I don't get on spotify. I also have vinyl releases converted to digital. Many artists I can't find on spotify at all. They are sorted the way I like them. in an app I like. which is fast, doesn't require internet, is free, open source and allows me to do much more than spotify. it's the same between gmail and mail clients. You still have the issue of apps like discord. It's cool that someone combined fast, lightweight teamspeak and fast, lightweight irc, but they did it in such a way that the app is heavy and you can't do anything meaningful with it if the developers didn't anticipate that. Corporations release sluggish javascript-based applications because it's cheap for them, quality enough to make money, and fast to produce. We look for quality.

[@jorgemarcelo4708]

@@phloxpaniculata9550 Thanks for your patience, you present really interesting points and now I see the benefits. I've been trying mailspring ("as an experiment") for a month and it really is more convenient. But your insightful comment has shown me that the rabbit hole is even deeper, I'll take some time to educate myself because now I see that this is not only about convenience but also about philosophy. Thank you for your time.

[@ShaunakHub]

I have kicked the Windows out of my world. Using Kmail, if I am every crazy enough to switch to Gnome - will use Evolution. I guess both of them does everything I want it to do (although KMail configuration is a big pain in the butt). TB has too many limitations.

[@legalize.brokkoli]

I use Plasma and Evolution, what's the problem?

[@dougtilaran3496]

No you dont. I linked 11 emails and they "suggest"pro. I hit dismiss....for now

[@seiferseifer]

paying is okay, but 8/month that is a service with no real cost to mantain those features, as in those are already built features. I think this as bad as any propietary crap that does the same. Just like last pass recently.

[@joshuarmost]

I think thunderbird is good except its ugly. Mainspring is pretty. I just wish thunderbird had a reskin

[@Clobercow1]

$6 / month you can have a g suite... just sayin

[@BrucesWorldofStuff]

Well you had me until the $8 bucks a month. How can I put this, NO thank you! I don't need anything like this anyway. But hay thanks for showing this.. LLAP