I don't get the confusion for Vile Onslaught. The effect only triggers when it's played by another card's skill. If your leader is not Buu, you miss the cost and the auto doesnt resolve. If you play it with it's own skill, you miss the timing, and the effect doesn't trigger at all. How does it make sense to play the card with it's own effect, then apply half of an auto that specifically says it triggers when played by another card?
@johnkiggs108 Жыл бұрын
Really wish they would've given the main deck 2 drops that you could evolve over with the chain. As well as actually letting you evolve during your own turn.
@trevordewey6335 Жыл бұрын
vile onslaught is so good he can tap 2 of your cards so that even mean you can tap their energy and it doesn't untap during their turn, so you can tap them out of their energy to defend and keep them off of 2 energy for their turn he is a better bergamo and that card is a 1 copy per deck
@joshknox4923 Жыл бұрын
According to fashbinder onslaught only works when played by a diff card
@BorisTheGoose92 Жыл бұрын
If the z deck buu had an effect that said "Prevents removal due to effects" instead of "instead of being KO'd" that would make it good against everything other than red. As it stands right now anything ignoring barrier and removes/warps/bottom deck etc. (ie black smoke side board card) the deck dies. Losing cards every turn to use the chain to it's full effectiveness. Outside of comboing these 1 drops on defensive end. Issue being they can be removed via several free auto effects.
@philplaystcg420 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was playing against the new cumber, and he dropped the scr, and just killed the deck 🙃 of those 1 drop buus could trigger ON play, that would be 100xs better
@tcgdiscussions2413 Жыл бұрын
For vile onslaught it would be just when it was played. The resolve as much as possible should mean that the dual/barrier attack doesn’t work, but the rest does if it is not played off a skill. Cost was met by leader being proper. : then resolve. It would also say, then if you do if the second effect was tied to the first auto.
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
I see, hopefully the card works out that way!
@tcgdiscussions2413 Жыл бұрын
@@50kComics I wonder if power increase cards work on that Z Leader like final and black kamehameha. If so that will be something lol
@gsdstrike Жыл бұрын
@@50kComics I can see the point that it does look like there is a possiblity that the auto can trigger without the leader being a yellow Majin buu. in the rule manual it checks for when an auto would go to check and pay for cost. the second effect of the auto does NOT state when it checks and proceeds to choose 2 of your opponent without checking is the cost has been paid.
@gsdstrike Жыл бұрын
@@tcgdiscussions2413 in the rule manual point 12.1 Characteristics of Extra Card, activating an extra card is considered as a activating a Skill, so as long as you target your battle card for the power increase, it works.
@tcgdiscussions2413 Жыл бұрын
@@gsdstrike that would be nasty.
@allenallen2508 Жыл бұрын
Only downside I see with the deck is you can only go up the chain during your opponents turn
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
yea that does open up some vulnerability, but the z deck giving the chain barrier seems good!
@KuhEssen Жыл бұрын
Very long chain. They need to include Buu's puppy in the deck. Buu was so pissed when it got shot.
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
yea the chain does have a lot of pieces
@WinterWolf94 Жыл бұрын
Do you lose the entire chain when you attack with the 8 drop power manifest? Not sure if it’s worth it then if you don’t have the other 8 drop in hand.
@LesmoVids Жыл бұрын
the leader's great, the chain sucks, and tbh I think the leader needs too many Majin cards to work as a generic good stuff leader too and it'll be like Piccolo. We'll see if people can figure it out
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
I have a bit more hope in the chain but we'll see how it shakes out!
@chris-fu2fw Жыл бұрын
piccolo is actually good now with the namekin stuff from set 18/19; the fusion package is garbage; i run yellow good stuff in mine and its super consistent, very stally and annoying
@willkershisnik5893 Жыл бұрын
@@chris-fu2fware you talking about piccolo, supreme power?
@chris-fu2fw Жыл бұрын
@@willkershisnik5893 yes
@philplaystcg420 Жыл бұрын
This deck was nerfed out the door. The 1 drops needed to be triggered ON play. Yeah, they help with z energy, but the deck runs out of a hand in the late game. Only being able to "evolve" the stack on your opponents turn is awful. The chain can be warped, if it gets around barrier too. It's a damn shame. I was really excited for this deck
@akdreamer6497 Жыл бұрын
The whole auto on Vile Onslaught is tied to the auto trigger. I don't know why people are so tripped up over a f**kin period lol. Auto skills CAN'T go off without their trigger, and that includes EVERYTHING in the auto skill.
@yubelmastery Жыл бұрын
I play every buu deck, and I am not impressed. One issue is you have to pitch 2 cards to get the bonus effects unless you pitch Kid Buu, but it is the only Majin Buu 1+10k. There should have been a card that gives the stack +5k, even if it is just during your turn. Another issue is smoke dragon. Just wipe the whole stack. The deck needs another card or two. Hopefully, it's a promo. I will play the deck, but I think it is worse than green buu as is.
@daveedwards4681 Жыл бұрын
Power Manifest -> Vile Onslaught -> The Ultimate Evil 35k triple, 30k double, 30k double, 60k triple all for 1 energy. UY again 👌
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
U/Y may be the way with this deck!
@derekfreiley7980 Жыл бұрын
How does “Z Stack” work?
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
When you play that z card, place the specified card underneath the z card you played
@Tarkara Жыл бұрын
Honestly incredibly disappointed, smoke dragon is everywhere, Buu chains DOA, leader could be good with later support
@50kComics Жыл бұрын
Smoke is really only played in Crimson Main decks and some side decks, yea that card is really strong against buu, but we'll see how it ends up turning out
@trevordewey6335 Жыл бұрын
there is the z buu that once per turn stops from being destroyed and on top of that the barrier buu, so they would have to have 2 forms of barrier removal to take care of it
@Tarkara Жыл бұрын
@@trevordewey6335 Smoke Dragon Warps ignoring barrier, bypassing both