(MAJOR CONTROVERSY!) 11 Left WSOP Main Event 2019

TIMESTAMPS BELOW. We had a major controversy break out with 11 left in the 2019 World Series of Poker Main Event between Dario Sammartino, Nick Marchington, and the WSOP floor staff including Jack Effel. Dario raised pre-flop and Nick shoved all in for 22 million chips. The dealer counted it as 17 million and Dario called without realizing it was 22. Dario complained for 8-10 minutes before Jack Effel came over and stole the show. I talk more about all the incidents that took place here and include comments made by other professional players about the incident.
TIMESTAMPS
Official hand begins - 2:19
Dario vs Floor - 5:43
Dario vs Jack - 13:28
Pro Player Comments - 21:18
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TIMESTAMPS Official hand begins - 2:19 Dario vs Floor - 5:43 Dario vs Jack - 13:28 Pro Player Comments - 21:18

[@gameinformationpokertheory]

Being the Final Table of the Main Event, the Action should be stopped before the Players expose their Cards. They get a Floor Ruling and all Appeals for Higher Rulings. Then proceed with Action. The Players are emotionally compromised after the Events. Look at All the Dealers mistakes in the Past and how it has cost Players at the WSOP. Players should write down all the Dealers that benefited them during and Event to only Tip those specific Dealers. The Winner of the WSOP should only Tip the Dealers he/she liked up to 1%. The Players should set the amount of Tip per Dealer and submit to each individual - no general Dealer Tip that goes into a pool that is Divided. 🤓💵

[@gta3ist]

Steven Nguyen then the dealers will be “ making mistakes” for the players that they know will tip them well ?

[@gameinformationpokertheory]

gta3ist - Generally, you don’t Tip till end of the Tournament. So a mistake or error will probably result in no Tip - Dario Sammartino could choose not to Tip. Nick Marchington did not Win any more money from the mistake in his favor - eliminated in 7th with no Pay Increase from time of mistake. If he (Dario Sammartino) finishes 5th - $2.2 MM, then instead of $22,000 Tip to the Dealers he could just Buy his Rail a lot more liquor. 🍾😂

[@gta3ist]

Steven Nguyen of course you wouldn’t tip a dealer at on goin Tourney ( until you get that payout slip )the losers wont tip well , of course, but if the winners were able to tip dealers of choice don’t you think some would “ make “ mistakes for the guy they know if wins will tip well

[@gameinformationpokertheory]

gta3ist - Dealer are sent to random tables for 30 minutes and flow through the course of several tables before a break. Table assignments for Players are random, Players are moved to balance tables as people are eliminated - seems difficult to commit Actions that would create Misdeal, exposing Cards, rolling Action before a Player Acts or other “mistakes” for a potential of a Tip. It is the Uncertainty of Tip that makes it where the Dealers are working to Deal a Fair Game. Yes, mistakes will happen - but now there are consequences with the Tip. The Players at the Final Table could agree that the Dealers do not deserve a Tip. They could collectively agree that no Players will Tip the Dealers because of poor performance. It applies to any type of Service. Poor service equals little to zero Gratuity. Not all Dealers performed well - currently the Dealer Tip pool rewards poor or mediocre performance. 🤓🌎 During WSOP Events, every Poker Dealer is working at one casino or another...hundreds are working at Rio...why should Players Tip for flaws. Glad Dario is playing Monday - he will be able to forget the mess and focus back on Poker. The “mistake” is tarnish on the Staff of WSOP - Final Table gaffe. You don’t want Tournament Director to have to make a Ruling of a mistake on ESPN coverage of the Final Table. 🤡 Clown show. Action should have been stopped before any Cards were exposed. Dario, who said I will probably Call, should be allowed to consider $22+ MM All-In...$5 MM in difference from the Short Stack (Nick). 10 Big Blind difference. Players caught it after Dealer announced wrong amount.

[@MultiNacnud]

now if she says 22 and her dad says 17 that's real trouble

[@greendmtwizard4202]

Not if you're R Kelly

[@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo]

@@greendmtwizard4202 🤔🤣🍆👌

[@theofranko1699]

17 is legal as in northern Ireland so you go to go? Dont knpw about different states in USA lol

[@christopherhiggins4249]

comment of the year

[@smurphftw2008]

17 is legal in a majority of U.S. States and pretty much everywhere in Western Europe

[@Smoer1]

He did not complain untill the cards were revealed. End of story.

[@dylanumpherville7983]

Idk how u guys all think stupidly like that lol it’s really not hard to understand. He was fine calling and risking 17 million on his pocket 10s so he does that by moving his chips in. After he moves his chips in they change the number and add 5 million which he is not fine with. They basically stole an extra 5 million in chips from him lol.

[@BigRed2]

Dylan Umpherville Floor at first should of verified with him before cards for exposed if he wants to call since dealer messed up count

[@dylanumpherville7983]

Tyler H what u guys are forgetting is that doesn’t mean anything or make any difference. None of the people on the floor including jack said anything close to if u would’ve stated ur problem before the cards were flipped we would of let u keep the extra 5 so why u guys acting like they did lol? All that does is make it look like that didn’t effect his choice but anyone who’s played poker knows 5million in chips effects ur choice majorly so that argument is invalid. No matter what time he decided to state his disagreement he was gonna get screwed outta the 5 million no matter what.

[@JonahLukeHeavyshield]

Tyler H he shook his head when they upped the amount. He was basically complaining before the cards were shown.

[@KingofDoubleBogey]

The Italian crew complained the whole tournament. Glad they went back home.

[@dewsplash]

Dario: If I knew he had queens I never would have called!

[@erikstark3250]

🤣🤣

[@sandhanitizer15]

Pretty much..he's trying everything to get out of this spot lol

[@sophieloves7092]

I would've sided with him if he made this an issue BEFORE the cards were shown. He's crying now cause he lost!

[@fuzzyflick9905]

Zactly

[@nedcassley5169]

I haven't gotten to the flop yet. 😀

[@jamiegladwin]

And you would still be wrong. The rules are clear, a call is a call and that's that.

[@jeffmaples9117]

He wouldn’t have said a word if the guy had rolled over 99.

[@jebivjetar5623]

He would not shove 99 with 28bb. Dario should have said something as soon as he found out it was 22, he should have known that the worst hand he is gonna shove from sb when utg raises is AQs and JJ+. If he said it right away than i agree with him

[@JaneNayes]

Then it would be the other guy complaining

[@imluvinyourmum]

Have to admit, that kind of money I would be tilted as well and say something, then accept the first ruling ahaha.

[@deanalbertson7203]

I agree.

[@bekeneel]

@@jebivjetar5623 In that case what difference did TT make with 99 lol? If it was said 22k right away he would have simply called too..

[@publicaccount1589]

Dealer: Oh sorry it's 22 not 17. Dario: ok...whatever. Cards are turned over. Dario: HELP!!! HELP!!!! .

[@jamesbravo8942]

Dario effin loser

[@zzzed9004]

perfectly siad !!!! well done bizmark !!! all italians are like that !!! so cheaty this italian guy!! get him out from WSOP !!! SHAME ON YOU DARIO

[@tazplay3476]

HILFE HILFE

[@i7gykk087]

😂

[@ShutDFckOff]

To the dealer who dealt this hand, if you are reading this, liberate yourself from these evil people. Evil people are sick, depraved, immoral, wicked and malevolent. Sleep well my dear.

[@denniscomeau5190]

Jack read this guy like a book. "You're not going to talk your way out of this one" polarized the entire situation especially considering he got a ruling before the cards were revealed

[@mpup54]

That implies he has talked Jack out of other situations. So that didnt make Jack look fair and impartial when he said that line.

[@twatmunro]

@@mpup54 -- It doesn't imply anything of the sort. It's a statement about what he's attempting to do -- talk his way out of his decision. If he wasn't happy, he should have made a fuss before the dealer turned the cards over. Doing so afterwards just makes him an angleshooting loser. Jack recognizes that.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

@@mpup54 i dont think it implies that at all, its just a turn of phrase

[@morninglift1253]

@@twatmunro You must have missed the part right before the cards were turned where the floor man says that the guy must call. This was a bigger mistake than the dealer's miscount. The floor man should have asked the guy if he wanted to call or not. That would have avoided this entire controversey. It's true that the guy didn't protest but he also didn't speak English very well and the cards were turned over a few seconds after the floor mandated the call.

[@Joe-ny8xq]

🤦‍♂️

[@Just1nBa1ley]

Guy was total chill until he seen his 10s were crushed. Great easy ruling.

[@robertharvey6030]

Exactly im sure if the opponent turned over pocket 9's would the same reaction be had?

[@nickyfagan6506]

@@robertharvey6030 facts ..seen the Queens was like no no not fair ..get da fck outa here bro 😅

[@ImAllInNow]

There's no doubt here. He agreed to the call before seeing the hand. He should have argued before any cards were turned over, clearly. If opponent showed 99 he would not be arguing.

[@BoomerActual]

EXACTLY!!! He fucking called and you can see it. He sees the cards and pulls this BS!!

[@kratombuzz4982]

Agreed.

[@burtburt2263]

It is partially right. He definitely has a case. He was calling 17( what was bid), though not responsible for the 22...

[@ImAllInNow]

@UCmIZa8HNePAgBNgc6c6XrWA the video seemed to show or indicate a number of seconds after the ruling was given before the cards were shown.

[@burtburt2263]

ImAllInNow: Even the first ruling wasn't clear. He was calling 17, not 22. He pushed 17( I believe). Like I stated, he is responsible for what he verbally agreed (17).

[@kippa396]

Ultimately he shouldn't have started whining after the cards are exposed, he only becomes angry when he realised he is dominated. If he was up against 9s or under etc he would have been ecstatic.

[@bigtexnick2188]

yup. well said. this is truth.

[@knowlestoo]

Wish you could multiple thumbs up. What a knob for only causing a scene after the cards were exposed. Just embarrassing himself on poker's biggest stage.

[@stoinge]

an he said his eyesight wasn't the best lol

[@justinsnider9772]

Yeah I would give a lot more credibility to his argument if he got upset before the cards were turned and wanted to take it back before. He was clearly ok with it until he saw the cards. They made the correct decision here.

[@MrDelg0020]

Zero empathy for Dario - ppl are crazy if they don't see him trying to play an angle here

[@Rankbaajin]

He meant "you called the all in, doesn't matter if it was 17 or 22" he accepted the action after he found out it was 22 for a 2nd time, then they turned over the cards and he backtracked

[@beeemm2578]

Right. He didn't mean it strategy wise. At least I didn't take it that way. Plus Jack is sick of dealing with these boohooing players. You didn't know the rules? Tough shit, thats on you, hoss. He's arguing a clearly stated rule...plus he agreed until he saw his dick was smashed in a vice. In my eyes, Dario looks the worst here trying to redo a hand he was clearly calling and losing. 🤷‍♂️

[@Roogs]

This 💯

[@markeisenfeld282]

River: 10 Dario: great ruling Jack, next hand guys..

[@rayhunsaker7621]

Best comment

[@j7db]

It's all-around unfortunate, but Dario definitely nodded like "okay, 5M more", then saw what he was against and started pleading his case. Just how it appeared. I can't see how the officials could've ruled differently regardless.

[@mp3vault]

I agree with you 100%

[@Spinosaurus4ever]

Capped pot of 17 no further betting permitted.

[@Packerfan130]

even if he objected immediately, the officials couldn't rule differently because its clearly written in the rules

[@morninglift1253]

@@Spinosaurus4ever That would have been the fairest and most sensible. But, people like to blindly follow rules.

[@cjfishtales2238]

@@Spinosaurus4ever this seems to be the most logical response. However, the rules apparently read differently.

[@TheDesperateArtist]

WSOP directors: 'We can call Jack for you?' Dario: 'I rather you call for a 10'

[@gtagats7574]

Jack came on the river too lol

[@faszody]

I do believe it's up to him to A) confirm the amount played B) mistakes are made by the dealer, so you need to be sure. The other thing is he was fine with the call at 22.5 mil, It was only till he saw his 10's were going to lose to his Q's. Then he makes a fuss. I think the right call was made.

[@chuckdeuces911]

There's no way. The responsibility is on the establishment period. They're the professionals whose profession it is to run all games fairly without mistakes. He challenged before flipping the cards. They said he accepted the action, told him to flip over, he sees, if course he's mad... but if he had not challenged and it just rolled to him and they said 'mistake, it's 22.5m' and he said ok anyways then I agree... but he challenged it period.

[@MrJamberee]

@@chuckdeuces911 You have no clue about poker. Players share responsibility to make sure things are correct. The dealer is not perfect. In your silly scenario, there would be nothing but angle shooters and arguments.

[@phillipoliverholtz9226]

Did you hear Chad ? Who cares what you believe. The rule was clear as day.

[@rolandkennedy80]

​@@chuckdeuces911 you need a poker lesson

[@jceepoker3256]

bro it is not the player's responsibility to count the chips. Thats why there is a dealer. You can't count the all in chips every time.

[@surindersingh724]

Zero sympathy for Dario. Didn’t say a thing until the cards were flipped.

[@denistalbot1829]

He even accepted the call after the amount was called to 22 then reveled is cards wich is an aditional all in call sign. This guy is a big baby

[@obscurereference6298]

Zero sympathy for people in comment sections. If you don't want someone to be upset and complain, don't make the mistake in the first place. This isn't about results oriented action. It's correct to try and save your extra couple million here regardless when someone else fucks up. Just don't make mistakes in spots this important, dealers.

[@denistalbot1829]

@@obscurereference6298 He called it with the corrected amout of 22 and he called the guy's all in, he clearly would have called it anyway cause he thought he was getting the guy out of the game, then trying to retract because he lost. I mean man up and accept your lost, arguing this long and whining is almost unsportmenship he could have been kicked out of the tournament if he continu.

[@obscurereference6298]

@@denistalbot1829 none of what you said is true, shut the fuck up please.

[@denistalbot1829]

@@obscurereference6298 he would have argue before he knew he lost, the floorman and the dealer looked at him and said 22M it's a call he hook his head and showed up is cards then start whining. 5M in ships at this point in the game it's about nothing, it's not like they are really betting millions

[@sublimekma]

When he says “you call 17, you call 22” what he’s really saying is “you called 17, which means you actually called 22.” He’s making the ruling not needling. Basically agree w david williams interpretation.

[@Nathancl22]

No he didn't.... He was rationalizing.

[@TheLeroy125]

@@Nathancl22 was he rationalizing? Don't get me wrong, he was a little blunt and could have handled it better. But I took it as you called $17mill but it was a miscount, now unfortunately that means you call the 22. The reason I interpret it as such is because he said just before that, the miscount does not matter. There could have been 30mill in the middle, dealer could have said the count is 3mill and you call, you're on the hook for the 30. It is an unfortunate scenario, but it was handled correctly if not in a somewhat blunt matter. The other table is still going, people are effectively losing blinds while your table is being stalled out by this decision. You cannot afford to let this discussion drag on. A ruling is made, no ifs, ands, or buts and you move on. Otherwise the whole table gains from Dario arguing

[@RealAnthonyJones]

I thought he meant if you were going to call 17 you probably were going to call 22 as well.

[@jasonbatteiger2421]

@@RealAnthonyJones this isn't the point, i get that 17.2 and 22.2 are close. yes that's true. eiffel even says at the end if the "dealer called a bet 3 mil but was 22.2 samartino would be on the hook for 22.2". the rule itself is the problem here. according to rules that are in place for some bat shit stupid reason dealers aren't actually in charge of bet amounts in the WSOP (they are in most local casinos and any house game i play in though, since it's common sense). eiffel and these bums make enough money that they have no real reason to give a shit though, which comes right out in his explanation to samartino. the only way this stuff would get fixed is if the top end public eye type players (negreanu etc) made a stand till this shit gets fixed. want to see another fun eichel/eiffel "ruling" see the gail baumann-koroknai hand from a few years ago. utter garbage. the top end players need to be more stand up humans rather than just be content to know how much ROI they have in the WSOP and get this shit fixed rather than just play on knowing how disturbingly bad the system set up is in some spots.

[@BMGipe45]

@@jasonbatteiger2421 it's the same if you play blackjack. If you have 20, and the dealer tells you you have 15, so you hit and bust, it's the player who's at fault for not knowing they had 20. Personally I see nothing wrong with the rule. Players are responsible for information that is openly available to them. Especially if it's a known rule that the player is responsible in these situations, they should pay more attention to everything.

[@ToyDenNerds]

Dario only became visibly upset when he saw that he was behind in the hand. I watched this hand over and over. We all know that if he was calling 22 if it had been 22. They even showed the rule in the book that you have to pay attention even if the dealer makes a mistake you should know what is going on.

[@vanacupanther]

But asking the dealer the count is making sure what's going on. The dealer is who verifies. Would have had a better argument to do it pre show. But imo the proper ruling would be call the 17 that the dealer told you it was. The dealer is like a referee so they should rely on the dealer.

[@ToyDenNerds]

@@vanacupanther True but you know these poker pros can count chips with their eyes closed. Dario only got upset when he saw what he was up against. I am sure he knew the exact count. Like Jack said, it's a game of observation... Yes the dealer counted incorrectly but Dario knew what was on the table. Also Jack was correct, not in his approach, but Dario had 62M.... if he is calling 17M he is calling 22M.

[@tonyetzu]

@@vanacupanther The rule book determines what should happen in that situation; the player needs to put in the actual amount, not the amount that the dealer says. The players agree to play according to the rules.

[@jenniturtleburger3708]

Yep, and it would have been a lot easier to let him retract the call and think about it knowing the true amount. But once those cards are tabled all bets are off.

[@jenniturtleburger3708]

Or hold him to the 17…

[@NorCalPhil]

Good on the dealer for remaining professional and only responding to questions from the floor staff and ignoring the comments from the players.

[@4sight719]

Uhhhhhh yea very professional miscounting chips as a poker dealer. Very professional indeed. Dario should have only been on the hook for 17 since that’s what he believed he was calling. That way both guys can be upset by the dealers lack of professionalism.

[@NorCalPhil]

@@4sight719 a dealer error doesn’t matter. Dario didn’t get pissed until he realized he was behind. If he had been ahead you can bet he would have kept his mouth shut.

[@4sight719]

@@NorCalPhil I agree Dario didn’t become upset till he saw he was behind. And I agree he would have been relaxed if he was ahead, that being said I believe we can both agree that the descriptive word “professional” should not be attributed to a dealer who just miss counted by 7 big blinds. The word that best describes the dealers actions would be UNPROFESSIONAL.

[@jbg71384]

@@4sight719 So apply for a job as a dealer for the WSOP, deal hand after hand after hand for hours and hours. You might be surprised that you'd make a mistake or two. But probably not, you seem like you would never make a mistake ever so keep being perfect bro.

[@4sight719]

@@jbg71384 and you seem like someone who would mess their job up daily and expect zero criticism.

[@SydBaron]

Notice he didn't complain until he saw the queens.

[@jay692]

Exactly. Just looking for a way out.

[@rupertpupkin4349]

he didnt put the extra chips in though, he thought he was calling 17

[@IceWarrior101]

@@rupertpupkin4349 Doesn't matter.. it's an action on the play. You don't have to count out your chips and push them forward. You can just put a stack forward and say call.

[@jlaux7]

Dario had a legitimate argument if the cards weren't exposed. After they're exposed? Of course not.

[@yummytummy88]

He snap called, thinking he is ahead. Didn't even spend any time to reconsider his calling/folding decision. Thus, complaining about the remaining 1/3 of his calling chips..AFTER...his see his opponent cards and realizing he is way behind is....silly.

[@pahakuutti]

He called the 17bb regardless. He can then fold the remaining 5bb PRE unexposed. Which of course means he will call all of it. He should be given the option to fold everything above 17bb tho, or the size of the stack he pushed forward if ≥17bb. So if the effective stack happens to be 100bb in some scenario, Dario could potentially call 17bb and fold the rest pre unexposed. But this is not the rules are.

[@richardh8702]

no he did not. once he called everyone know he has to call. ultimately it is his responsibility to know what she has.

[@sgtforge21]

@@pahakuutti thats not fair though to say to marchington "even though you announced all in and pushed all your chips forward youre not entitled to a full call."

[@grantsmittkamp1757]

Good point

[@rawkinlb73]

And not sure how every one is saying Dario is a class act when he clearly had no issue with his call until the cards where exposed.

[@wilsonfeist5485]

Joe Jitsu you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about if you don’t know how to spell the word were

[@rawkinlb73]

How insecure about your intelligence are you to feel the need to correct random strangers spelling and grammar.I can assure you that you aren't the only one who noticed it,you're just the only one sad enough to point it out.Now run along son,mommy probably needs a foot rub or something cause you can't live in her basement forever ,no free rides in life kid.

[@wilsonfeist5485]

Joe Jitsu I’m not a kid who graduated college and is neck deep in debt. I know what I want to do with my life and I’m only a Junior in HS. The amount of grammatical errors in your comments are disgusting. It’s embarrassing how you would assume I live with my parents when you can’t type a sentence to save your life. In the first comment I was just pointing out that your point seems sketchy because you look uneducated when you spell words wrong.

[@aleksandarpk3859]

Joe Jitsu Who is going to take your opinion seriously if you cannot even spell right? Try having some stupid typo in PhD, or in application for job.( High end job, not as janitor).

[@Justanotherandy63]

@@wilsonfeist5485 Argue his point instead of being a dick.

[@brianriley2488]

Gotta love you Joe, such a straight talking guy. I really enjoyed your Mike Postle commentary 🤣 Brilliant 👏😎

[@jorgeherrera1074]

If he called that quickly, who really believes he would’ve folded for another 25%. Plus he only complained once the cards were revealed

[@jonnnyonion]

Exactly

[@rupertpupkin4349]

with 22.5m he loses his chip lead so he is def taking more time to call and sometimes would fold 10s im sure 17m hes still the chip lead if loses.

[@kevindague8539]

He didn't care until he saw the cards. Should've complained before the showdown

[@chiraglakhani1852]

Kevin Dague exactly. It’s so clear.

[@TheVitalTiger]

yeah pretty clear that he's a little disappointed before hand, but still crunches the numbers real quick and accepts it with that acknowledging nod/acceptance after floor announces it will be a call -- until he see's the cards.

[@dylanumpherville7983]

Which part did the floor say that if he complained before the cards were shown he could keep the extra 5 million? Lol I honestly don’t understand ur guys point. He was always gonna get screwed of the 5 million no matter when he stated his issue. He called the 17 so they made him call the 22. They never said anything close to him keeping his 5 million extra if he stated his problem earlier lol

[@chiraglakhani1852]

Dylan Umpherville that’s not the point we are trying to make. What we are trying to say is that the realization that he was dominated pre flop made him suddenly challenge the dealers mistake. In other words, he would not have been so vocal if he had the dominating hand pre flop. It’s understandable though, you’re fine with everything up until you realize you’re dominated but it’s not very classy imo. To me it was just so obvious that he wouldn’t have complained at all if his opponent had deuces. P.S. it’s been a while I have played poker so I do apologize in advance if I have said something that doesn’t make sense. I am only trying to help Dylan understand the point I was trying to make.

[@dylanumpherville7983]

Chirag Lakhani at the end of the day he payed for someone else’s mistake. He wanted to call 17 and did when he only put that much chips into the pot but they made him pay 22. U can judge his character if u want but I think he would of been fine winning or losing the 17 million chips

[@Nlions93]

It sucks but Jack is right. Had the cards been flipped with Dario with the QQ he would have said nothing obv.

[@iTasteTheTim]

Ifhe it's not the most relevant argument because QQ is an easy call for 22. But the fact he is arguing about it after the cards are turned AND the flop is out means he can't come back from it. But the hands flipped argument is kind of redundant imo

[@iTasteTheTim]

Although I have now got to the point in the video where it seems she didn't give them a chance before the flop

[@juntj3914]

But the incident influenced his call. He might have want to think about it but misunderstanding with the dealer might have influence his final call. But in the end the cards were laid already

[@4vendetta1]

Lol this is great. It's obvious Jack wasn't making a comment on Dario's strategy. He obviously meant "even if you think you are calling 17 you still have to call 22 because of the forward motion of the chips"

[@phillipoliverholtz9226]

Funny how the newer ( still old ) comments all understand this. Emotions in gamblers is crazy.

[@saulaero1]

Dario even said “ count , but I think I will call!” 2:27

[@xjcrossx]

That was the most valid argument for his original thoughts. 22 or 17 he would've called either way in my opinion.

[@whistlerdaver]

him saying that implies the specific amount is important and may have an impact in his decision. he could've eyeballed the stack and snap called if the difference between 17 and 22 didn't matter.

[@terryt4577]

Now if a 10 came on the flop.......It's ok Jack all good here, no worries

[@johnburns9634]

Or a five on the River.

[@marcobernier3549]

Great ruling...Dario should have protested before he expose his cards.

[@andrewturner3147]

He did...by asking for the floor

[@DoctorChained]

@@andrewturner3147 He didn't ask for the floor. Did you even watch the video?

[@0its0not0mine]

He called an all-in. If it wasn't an all-in case, he could have a chance. LOL

[@IRGhost0]

bottom line is, it's his job to verify the exact count of the chips. he only cared about the miscount when he saw his 10s were dominated.

[@thepokerpilotapp]

What Jack said, or could have rephrased, is you are obligated to call 22 even if you were told or suspected it was 17

[@jamesmulrey6061]

The only way he’d have an argument was if chips were hidden and he couldn’t see them on her announcement. This is entirely on him. Not having any idea where people are this deep into the Main Event is absolutely ludicrous. Also one could make the argument his hand at 22 million could have a wider range than 17 and it just so happened QQ was his hand. He made that call expecting to be ahead or at worst a coin flip.

[@BMGipe45]

Had he voiced his complaint BEFORE flipping the cards over I might side with him on this one. The fact that he seems to have no issue with the situation until he sees he's a 4-1 dog, I can't empathize with him anymore because he was attempting to take a shot. Imagine if he saw he was ahead, had no issue, then got sucked out on if he would complain then. That's in a sense what he's doing here.

[@stephenhenley7452]

I concur. If he'd asked for a ruling BEFORE the cards were shown, I'd side with him (even though I agree it was a bad decision by the official). You can't wait to see where you stand and THEN complain.

[@ginonacionales6347]

Absolutely agree.. he tried to play the system and lost. BOO F'N HOO!

[@BMGipe45]

@@stephenhenley7452 the only reason I agree with the ruling but the official is because the rule itself states how this situation is handled. Whether I agree with the rule itself is another discussion, but they got the correct call in the end.

[@mylifesamessandashamblesade]

This Massively

[@koenhu804]

Disagree. I think he can’t speak English well so couldn’t defend himself

[@levsque3601]

After rewatching this a second time Im starting to come to the conclusion that Dario didnt even deserve anywhere near as much work as the work that was put into the ruling, and the only reason he got help was because he made a huge fit about it. The fact that a poker player on the final table of the world series of fucking poker is trying to get a pity ruling is shameful.

[@chuckdeuces911]

I disagree, the house has to be perfect period. No mistakes, he should have only been in the pot for $17.5. They should have just run it for $17.5 and none of this would matter. The bettor and/or the dealer are responsible for each persons chips at the table. I'm not responsible for counting your chips. This is the exact same as buying a defective product at the store. That's the only reason we're in your facility, letting your people deal cards because you make money from doing such things so you have to be 100% responsible for you business. If you have a credit card, you report it stolen, you turn it off online, then someone makes a request for money with that cards information no matter who takes it, the card should be held liable. That's their business. They promise the safety of nothing going wrong, no matter what.

[@levsque3601]

​@@chuckdeuces911 If you go to Walmart to buy engine oil or something and the employee accidentally points you to the wrong product are they held responsible for what happens to your car/project? Obviously not. It is your responsibility to ensure that everything that you are doing is correct. Same thing with the dealer. The dealer is someone who is authorized by the house to deal cards. Getting a count is another service that the house provides, however under no terms does the house guarantee the accuracy of the count. You are responsible as a player to maintain stack awareness at all times, regardless of what the dealer says. The dealer is not held liable for the accuracy of the count, nor is it guaranteed to be accurate. The house isn't liable for the dealer because they are hosting a game, you are partaking in it. 100% of all major orgs/sports/events clarify that just because you are unaware of what's happening doesn't mean that it's their fault. Finally ignoring the fact that it's a mistake that most definitely cost him the tournament, he is at a level where he is well aware of the specifications of rules, including the one that says that all actions are final and cannot be changed. Rules like this are in the game for reasons, and this is one of them. The amount of angles that can be shot by having perfect house coordination is insane. If he had actually thought he was ahead he could have made a complaint like this and had the action overturned, and honestly HE KIND OF DID. After he missed the flop he became noticeably more upset and started pushing for the ruling more. If he really was that upset about it he would have raised his concerns before the flop hit.

[@MrJamberee]

His responsibility was to observe the dealer as she did the chip count. He didn’t. Too bad for him, but this is not a tough situation. He called the full amount.

[@levsque3601]

@@MrJamberee This is what I like to hear. The fact that this ever turned into an argument makes no sense. This guy is a professional acting like he's in a shoddy home game series.

[@deanalbertson7203]

John Cena you cant see me. Lol.

[@fraa888grindr7]

Jack also said, "She could say, 30 million and there's 300 million out there...you're calling 300 million." THAT'S the context of "you're calling 17, you're calling 22"

[@MrJamberee]

Players have responsibility. It’s on him. Not debatable rule.

[@basedbear1605]

Yup, I saw that too and thought it was obvious. Amazing how cognitive dissonance works... Darius can't admit it was his own fault.

[@Irishkilla79]

No it's not even close to the same thing.

[@basedbear1605]

@@Irishkilla79 You're an idiot. It IS the same thing because the rules SAY it's the same thing. If you say call, it doesn't matter how much the dealer said the amount was. Please don't reproduce, our gene pool doesn't need more morons.

[@Irishkilla79]

@@basedbear1605 What I meant was was Jack Effel said. If you're calling 17, you were going to call 22. That's what I was referring to. Also, no need to be rude bud. Can't you have a civil rebuttal? If he said if you calling 30 then your calling 300, then that would have been a jab at Sammartino.

[@stArCraft168]

This is a high quality video, just look how good the quality of this clip.

[@benflippin5070]

Adam Chen This comment cracks me up

[@brettgreen1467]

Very high quality

[@jaxsonbateman]

Don't know how I missed this one at the time - I love seeing the Poker goss! The big issue here is that Dario only really starts objecting after he sees he's behind. I don't think he's conciously thinking this, but subconciously he's wishing he didn't make the call because he's behind, so he's more annoyed than he would be at the error and thus highlighting it. If Dario had asked for action to be held or stopped pre-showdown in order to rectify the situation, he'd have a lot more of a leg to stand on about not necessarily calling the bigger raise.

[@morninglift1253]

But, you don't know for sure what he's thinking. And, Dario didn't have time to stop the action. Notice the floor man rule that the call stands. And, then the cards are immediately turned over. The floor man should have asked Dario if he still wanted to call or not. This would have avoided this entire controversy.

[@ModeratelyAmused]

Here is the key to me. Notice when he flips his cards and notice when he stands up to complain. He didn't start complaining until after he saw the cards. He was wrong through and through.

[@user-jh3rx3ej7h]

"It was joke!" - Armenian Mike

[@xnotch.xnotch]

LOOOOL

[@aaronnava7107]

Riiiiight 😂 Puts his whole stack in the middle and pulls it back lmao Call Jack!

[@jonphanspromotions]

@@aaronnava7107 that was funny as fuck. Armenian Mike is Joke. Thank GOd Ryan ban him from LATB.

[@onezerotwofour184]

3:30 "so right there..." enough said! The dude said fuck it and was okay with proceeding until he saw he was getting it in bad.

[@gtagats7574]

He shouldnt have had to say fk it, thats what you say when someones making you do something you really didnt want to do.

[@Kjb420]

Lmfao he said I have problems with my eyes😂😂😂

[@easyeagle3730]

He is absolutely OUT of line. The time to complain was prior to the cards being relieved. He was mad because the action was not in his favor. It’s his responsibility.

[@mitchellfagan7701]

A simple dealer mistake it happens But he's called regardless He was perfectly cool with it until he saw the cards

[@garethrogue]

exactly. He would have been real quiet if it went the other way. I'm not gonna say he shouldn't have called so quick, because that's his prerogative, but the fact he did means he's fucked.

[@leodwinak]

He said "I have to call." Didn't he?

[@mitchellfagan7701]

@@leodwinak he asked for the count then said I think I have to call, I think what he means by that is he ain't gonna fold his pocket 10s

[@leodwinak]

@@mitchellfagan7701 It could have been reitorical. Like he was talking to himself. But then he made his bet/called which moves the game forward. In choosing to act he is indicating he is aware of what is happening even if the count is wrong. Kinda feel bad for him but no one called the clock on him. He had all the time he wanted to gather info before making his move. 5 million is a big mistake.

[@mitchellfagan7701]

@@leodwinak I see your point but like you said he made his bet and he called with it, understandably 5 million is a big difference in poker but whether it was a miscount or not he still called so it's a heads up situation He called the 17 million but it's still a call, he can't go back once he's made his move

[@honesttruth817]

Geez the opponent only sweating it for 20 minutes to determine his tournament life. He is the true victim here lol.

[@rickhernandez5454]

For those with a problem with Jack's 'attitude' towards the situation, you need to understand that Dario was told by 3 different people the exact same rule and was holding up the game. Jack went in there, said the exact same rule and got play to continue. It's not fair to the other players that Dario continues on after being told multiple times the exact same thing. Great job by Jack and the staff.

[@michaellane9079]

Well the dealing was bad and so was the ruling. That rule is bullshit. This guy got fucked.

[@josephkenefic5086]

@@michaellane9079 no he made a bad fucking call. Those are the fucking rules, deal with it. Fuck this victim mentally bullshit.

[@acewilums]

@@josephkenefic5086 speaking truth 👏

[@takenserious4554]

Some people aren't ok with bad answers.

[@jewsco]

@@michaellane9079 no , he didnt this is a prime example to slow down and make sure before calling . he could of easily asked for a recount or counted it himself

[@d7adict]

Even with 22k, he would've call. He only flips when he sees his hand got beaten by QQ. Such a sore loser

[@billybegood466]

I've been playing poker for a long time. Dealer error is irrelevant. It's each player's responsibility to keep track of the action.

[@danielseaburg9763]

Correct, but he asked 3 times for the count, asked for the chips to be seperated so HE could count them. And was told incorrectly. And players do not have to disclose their amount. So you'd be correct if the guy shoved, dealer said ''17.5'' and he called. he asked 3 times for the CORRECT count, he asked if they could be spread so HE could count them - neither of these met - incorrect ruling.

[@georgevalabad2599]

@@danielseaburg9763....then why does the other players knew the count was incorrect and corrected the dealer and he doesn't...this explains the ruling that he has to be responsible to keep track of acrtons within the table...end of story...

[@mynamejeff508]

Lets see if you're around in 5years kid

[@commentanalyst6165]

Not always, I was at a table the other night and someone meant to straddle but the dealer announced raise. It came around to me and I called, straddle raises. I call the floor and tell them I called because I was under the impression I was closing the action because the dealer announced raise, my appeal was granted and money returned.

[@Daniel-nt5gh]

Would be still ok the rule if the player was blind? If not, then the rule is unfair.

[@lifeiswonderful22]

The floor 100% absolutely made the right call. It's a player's responsibility to know the rules of the tournament they're about to play.

[@joshuapatrick682]

Where are said rules posted? I would agree with you if everyone was handed a rule book, but they aren't. The issues are in the complete lack of regard from the VP of the company who doesn't apologize for the mistake, doesn't seem sympathetic at all and then the needle at the end. It's being a dick when you just don't have to.

[@Jazzy_Josh]

@@joshuapatrick682 www.wsop.com/2019/2019%20WSOP%20Tournament%20Rules.pdf

[@jeffdridge2010]

Homeboy called so damn fast after dealer said 17.2, there’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell he was going to fold. If I were going to play in the main event you could be damn sure I’d read the rules. Good job Jack.

[@ElGreco609]

He waited to see the hand to complain 🤣😂🤣

[@jeremy144713]

Watch the river be a 10 and he changes his mind “alright guys, I did call, my bad, let it slide, let me collect my chips”

[@kkoz474]

listen from 12:46 this ruling couldn't be any more clear, it's a call. Jack is absolutely right.

[@tropical9913]

I agree. Jack was right.

[@thegreenbikerider6189]

People who know poker = correct decision. Everyone questioning it and causing drama = chump.

[@Mikeydeeez]

What would be fair in a perfect world is...Dario puts the 17 mill in the middle and the guy who went all in should hold 5 mill back and play for the supposed 17 mill all in.

[@dylanumpherville7983]

The Green Bike Rider correct decision doesn’t always mean fair decision tho. Unfortunate things happen

[@thegreenbikerider6189]

Dylan Umpherville I have a heart of stone. Stickler for the rules I guess. Tough tits. 😂

[@cllowboyking5152]

Betcha he'll pay attention next time 😂😂

[@MrLibojr23]

This is why I like Jack Eiffel. He knew exactly why Dario was complaining, because he found out he was behind. 'your calling 17 your calling 22' is true 100% if Marchington had Pocket 9's

[@normanno8514]

in reality there is a massive cutoff at around 20 big blinds in all in hand selection

[@doubled7080]

David Williams explained what Jack meant to say. This ruling was so simple. It's the same with forward action. You cant make a motion forward, then pull it back.

[@gmblnmstr]

exactly

[@raulbermudez7757]

He didn’t complain until cards were turned over. He should have complain the minute he was told it was 22 but not wait two minutes to complain

[@gawdbody6710]

Well according to the rules it wouldn't have mattered but I agree lol

[@llgg1668]

I wonder why they couldn‘t just make him pay the 17 million or split the difference and he has to pay 19.5 and end of story

[@sgtforge21]

@@llgg1668 that wouldn't have been fair to marchington though. To say to him "even though you clearly announced all in and shoved your whole stack forward, through no fault of your own, you're not entitled to everything you bet"

[@junseoktube1896]

Actually all people might do this. Dealer did wrong and if 10 is reveal, he would be fine but didnt. Of course he could complain about that. Dealer’s fault first. Dont judge people sneaky. You also sneaky. Is sneaky bad? No. Dealer’s fault. 100%

[@GentlemensAcademy]

I would have liked for another 10 to come then the tournament director says “ok you’re right. Your hand is dead”

[@MrTigroz]

Not that it necessarily matters toward “accepted action,” but did he not call with more than $17m in his own chips?

[@saintpeterson5275]

And the ITALIAN ACADEMY AWARD💣 goes to....Dario Sammartino 👏👏👏 [2019]

[@bernhardtsen74]

applauds (in italian) Godfather theme playing

[@crispypickles8466]

That's like calling a foul playing basketball only after you saw the shot miss.

[@kramer1372]

10000%

[@garymartin1040]

Reminds me of a French soccer player.

[@Gaddo_]

In basketball you get fouled you can continue with your shot follow through and get the points if it goes in and still get the foul.

[@crispypickles8466]

@@Gaddo_ not sure what your point is. The rim is also 10 feet off of the ground if we're just listing facts about basketball.

[@FatherManus]

@@Gaddo_ Yeah it's a bad analogy because a foul in basketball is good whether the shot goes in or not.

[@mjriemen]

This is old as hell now, but I can’t believe Dario didnt know almost exactly how much Marchington had. As a professional Poker player, it is your job to know how much is in your opponents stack when playing No Limit or even Pot Limit. And this is true even if youre playing a $2/5 cash game. 11 left in the WSOP Main you really have no excuse for not knowing how much an opponent has. Every professional knows that mistakes sometimes happen, so much like protecting your cards, you have to protect yourself from mistakes and know exactly what the rules are and what the circumstances are.

[@nedcassley5169]

When I waited tables there were managers who spent most of the shifts hiding in the office. They resented being asked to come out and perform managerial duties.

[@Peanut31788]

He made this into a bigger deal than it actually was. The rule is pretty simple. He obviously had no issue with it until the cards were exposed.

[@michaellane9079]

It is a shitty rule.

[@zeke67]

@@michaellane9079 If you don't like the rules, then stay home!! You think Dario can play by his own rules?

[@michaellane9079]

@@zeke67 as I said it is a shitty rule. Why do I have to stay home because I have an opinion on that shitty rule. That is just stupid.

[@zeke67]

@@michaellane9079 With "you" I obviously meant Dario. But yeah, if you don't like the rule stay home or at least don't waste 25 minutes from other players time just to argue what THREE floorman has allready ruled. And that rule is SIMPLE!!

[@fuckgoogle9061]

@@michaellane9079 how is it a shitty rule? Pretty straight forward players are responsible to double check themselves what the stacks are before they call.

[@nicholaswei7962]

It’s very clear, the 17/22 line isn’t a needle. At 15:35 - Jack explains how the rule works - even if the count error as egregious like 10x (3M vs 30M), the call would stand for 30M. Dario points out 17/22 affects his decision, Jack responds it doesn’t matter (which by his explanation of the rule, it doesn’t). Jack’s direct, abrupt and not showing empathy. He could be annoyed but it is likely in part to end the situation, protect his dealer and floor managers.

[@ActionableFreedom]

Why does it work like that though? In any other business or event or sports game we all have roles. Clearly the dealer or by extent the casino is at fault. Now I dont know how this should be solved to be honest. Dealers are humans and make mistakes. Casinos do take in rake though to cover not only the costs of running the casino in normal terms but to cover their risks. The rules are clear though. And I assume that although most people won't read the rules, once youre this deep you've read them one of the nights in the bedroom at the hotel.

[@almosthypnoticp7845]

@@ActionableFreedom I think they could’ve been nicer lol I’m kind of pissed finding out all my fav players are banned. like wtf happened to stealth munk

[@williamalexander4263]

It was VERY clear that the boss meant that if he called the 17,then he had actually called the 22,so he had to put 5 more in. It WASN'T a needle, it's what he meant. You CAN'T shortcall the actual amount of the bet if you have more chips.

[@jonbiz6223]

This is how I see it as well.

[@ScottiMusicNow]

No, he was implying it made no difference in his decision. It was a needle. Cut it out.

[@loganwick973]

@@ScottiMusicNow no it was not a needle stop being dramatic

[@PeterBee911]

@@ScottiMusicNow No, it's actually the rule in poker. Like William said, you can't shortcall. If you advance 1 chip, meaning that you call, it's like you're advancing 50 milion if that's what it takes to call.

[@chadgreer2670]

8:28 - 8:42 Did anyone else get a little nervous when they talked about calling Jack? 👀

[@TheDesperateArtist]

Griffin Benger in response: Dario should have checked his privilege...

[@corbinsmith50]

Well, when you're close to the bubble, start demanding triple chip counts on every hand. Lol

[@notallowed337]

He called the extra 5 before he saw the cards then he complained after he saw the cards.

[@richardcrary2848]

Your truck fell off the lift but the director says we aren’t responsible too bad

[@turtril]

: Maaaaan this guy wouldn't be saying sh*t if it was AK instead of QQ.

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Unless the flop was A73, then he'd ask for help too :)

[@ashenwinter]

Nothing wrong here. They told him the rule multiple times and he kept bitching. Glad Jack kept the game going. PLUS Sammartino didn't start crying until AFTER the cards were turned up. Grab him some tissue and move on

[@robertace821]

But he called 17 million not 22 million!

[@yummytummy88]

Robert....you need to understand this. IT is the bettor/player responsibility to asses the betting or opponent chip count. Plus you still don't understand Ruben point. Would Dario give back 5 millions to the initial ALL IN player if he flopped a quad of 10s. He reacted weakly when he see he is facing QQ. He didn't even shown he needs time to determine if he going to call the 17.2 millions all in bet. Thus, why on earth he cares the extra 5 millions if he THINK he is ahead with his 10/10. He only complain...AFTER....he see his is behind before the flop. I been playing poker, cash and tournament for 20 years and the way I approach to this, does make a difference and lets go. Maybe I make a bad call and get lucky on the flop. If not, its call gamble and move on. If you don't like it, maybe poker or gamble is not for you. Stick to legal profession or where rules are more precious and clear.

[@robertace821]

@@yummytummy88 see you reaction is towards his responds after which is not the point here. The dealer said 17 million, he called 17 million. If that was incorrect the cards shouldn't been flip. See this is where the dealer handle it poorly twice. She should of said do you call 22 million? See your not getting the fact this was a mistake handle poorly by everyone. Your right he would of called another 5m with the short stack. Let say it was the other way around it wouldn't have been a big deal? Yea but the dealer and direct should of confirm the call of 22m before flipping. They had a chance but fail. Next time stop defending the play after when it was the play first.

[@sgtforge21]

@@robertace821 its also not marchingtons fault. It wouldn't be fair to him to only receive 17.2m after he put his whole chipstack in. It was a mistake, but I dont think it was handled poorly. Like they said, the rule is accepted action. What would stop someone from angling later if they didn't hold up this ruling?

[@Simon1985_]

If Dario won the hand on the turn or river, would he be willing to only take 17m instead of 22m?

[@paulatudor691]

When they go all in and you call verbal is binding.

[@johnburns9634]

Hey Joe! I was hoping that there was nothing about this that cost the dealer her job. She remained professional, albeit apologetic during this entire hand. I hope this didn't cost her, her job.

[@TheErockaustin]

From the time they realized the count was wrong to when they resumed the hand was over a minute... he had plenty of time to protest before continuing, but didn't until he saw the QQ

[@sherpajones]

He wasn't forced to accept her count or to snap call after the count. His action stands.

[@jamieshouldbeavailable]

Bottom line is he didn't get upset until the cards were turned over. Roles reversed, he wouldn't have complained, right? He nodded in agreement until the cards were shown...this is a tantrum

[@EricPrincipino]

I love how the guy doesn't complain or say a word, about the dealer telling him the wrong stack size, until qq is flipped over

[@tbac2432]

bla bla bla bla Sammartion is wrong. If you have a problem the way the dealer counted the chips you say something prior to turning you cards and seeing the other players hole cards. I got a million dollars that says he would of never said a word if the other player showed 99, 88, K/J or even 10/10.

[@heffiagametech8094]

Dario only objected after he was the other person's cards.

[@thespreeman401]

Simple question. Did you read the rules before you started playing.

[@TheStile2]

I don't think Jack came in hot. We heard the rule read by Norm and it was super straight forward. Jack may not have been super nice about it, but...

[@Iammorph]

The rule is clear: it's an accepted action. Meaning: It's player's responsability to know if they are given a good count or bad count. By saying "call" instead of "count again please", you are accepting the bad count of the chips, that's why Jack said "You're calling 17, you're calling 22". And, by the way, what is Jack doing with his hand is "dont believe what you're told, believe in your own eyes, and YOUR OWN EYES ONLY".

[@pkrpro19]

He’s clearly out of line. The other players at the table immediately chimed in and said that’s not correct when the dealer announced 17 million. He was just acting way to fast and didn’t even allow the dealer to finish counting the chips to begin with. It’s 100% an All-In and Call.

[@704studio]

if he hit a set something tells me he wouldnt be trying to roll back his call.

[@BlanBlan19901990]

This wouldn't be a controversy if AK was flipped over instead of QQ.

[@RicoSuav95]

You can slightly hear the dealer sigh and say "shit" 😂

[@JoseFlores-nf1kq]

He started crying after he saw his 10’s crushed. Cry baby

[@peterwysoczanski9391]

a few things - not that I care; does the table expect every person to count the other persons chips? if so what does that mean? Also the mistake was noticed after the call

[@jb03hf]

Perfect response from the VP. The guy wanted to argue with the dealer and three floor managers - someone has to come down and shut down the issue and call it over. Done.

[@caseyleez2477]

Yeah except for that last comment. Totally ridiculous statement

[@AnthonyShuker]

he had a legitimate reason to argue, get off the high horse.

[@jeffsegar3270]

THANK you!!

[@Pmz604]

Count, but I think I need to call... intentions to play..look at his facial expressions..he wants to play...its only when the cards are exposed..he realizes .."Oh Shit! "

[@janicamoore9583]

Exactly! He is back peddling

[@evanhawkins6073]

Another player was observant enough to notice the discrepancy.

[@deanalbertson7203]

I agree that it is a correct ruling. It is a game of observation. If you think the count is wrong, ask for another count. Once you push the chips forward, it is a call.

[@lindaosborn2752]

Simple Ruling. He didn't flip out until he saw the Queens. Acceppted action is a Rule. How can you argue with the rules? Jack wasn't empathetic enough? It went on too long for a simple ruling

[@d2r-leetloot551]

I have terrible eyesight and would have gone by what the dealer said because I have to. Unfortunate situation.

[@michaeledwards1644]

agree, too many bad dealers

[@michaeledwards1644]

agree, terrible dealers

[@jasonbatteiger2421]

no it's the horrible rule here. you are exactly right, if your vision isn't great (or chips are stacked wrong, or chips are hidden behind stacks, or under them) somehow YOU are the one responsible for a bet; this means according to WSOP's own rules the dealer doesn't actually run the game, and what they say means nothing officially in these instances. local casinos are often run better than this (any house game i'm in for sure does too)

[@BMGipe45]

@@jasonbatteiger2421 So what if that poor eyesight made you misread your hand? Should you not be held accountable for the cards in play either? There's a reason they put the responsibility on the player...to prevent angle shooting. Many rules that are in place, are in place to protect the integrity of the game.

[@toptop-allin.3761]

I think Jack needs a vacation after that call