SHOCKING POKER CHEATING: Why Everyone Is Freaking Out About Mike Postle

[@tylermokarry9731]

Just folding AK on a K84 flop to one bet is enough evidence for me

[@generichuman2044]

Agreed. If he does that then his stats should have him as a losing player, not winning every session

[@truthsmiles]

I'll admit I'm an idiot, but *in isolation* and without seeing the full hand it doesn't seem THAT unreasonable... it looks like Postle raises $160 from HJ, cutoff calls, and then gets jammed on by BB. That's a pretty polarizing move by BB. I could accept a tight laydown, especially if the all-in is a nitty player and with the caller left to act behind me in position with another pot-sized bet behind(?) But when combined with all of the other evidence, yeah, there's definitely something highly suspicious going on.

[@OutfoxedYa]

That’s definitely the smoking gun! This guy deserves to get called out by Doug and surprised that this pond life isn’t blacklisted immediately

[@tflo75]

graphics must've been wrong there and he didn't have AK.....right??..riiiiiight..

[@Strype13]

Yeah, that play obviously loses a ton in the long run. Meanwhile, he's running like a God. Hmmm...

[@davesims7917]

8:04 is when it starts....this guy takes forever setting it up!

[@D33DubYa]

Dave Sims ty

[@db8700]

I know. I fucking hate polk for making such long videos.

[@davidstevens3934]

Thank you!

[@jakelozoya2479]

Ty

[@JessicaYOchoa]

Dave Sims thanks !

[@fbi8292]

We've been spying on his phone the entire time guys, he's just playing Candy Crush Saga.

[@thecake03]

Lmao

[@jimbomx502]

Did a double take at your FBI screen name. You got me lol

[@donaldpaluga]

That's not what Stormy Daniels said!

[@asdfasdf-xb9wt]

@@donaldpaluga you actually posted this thinking it was funny. wow.....

[@donaldpaluga]

@@asdfasdf-xb9wt and you responded, TRIGGERED ❄

[@kellyrn3251]

It’s incredibly disturbing that there’s a cell phone at the table in the first place! All cell phones should be banned from any poker tables in competition. This accountability is due to lack of rules and enforcement which is total stupidity

[@jonslg240]

If you truly consider it though, their 220BBwin per 100 hands is only over a 15hr period. Live poker is absolutely nothing like online poker - most of the people analyzing are experts in online play. However, in live games with big rakes and tips you really do have to play riskier, larger pots. That's most especially true at stakes between 5/10 and 1/2, where most live poker players learned how to play poker at. Statistics alone aren't at all proof that someone is cheating.. but it can be evidence. In this case? It's only 15 hours. You cannot make assumptions like that on such a small sample size, let alone make accusations and huge controversy out of it.

[@bobshagit9503]

hes using his phone to watch the stream NO PHONE IS ALLOWED AT THE TABLES so why does he get to use it? who has he paid? how is he related to the people running the shitshow?

[@ITILII]

NO cell phones, glasses or hats....and then let's see how you good you really are, since you're supposed to be "professionals" Postle without his phone is like Obama without a teleprompter....useless (though Postle knows more about poker than Obummer about, well, anything

[@bobshagit9503]

@@ITILII he was part of the livestream team that put the shit together... which shouldnt be allowed

[@deeloc1993]

@@jonslg240 well it was literally proven that he did cheat soooo making that case is useless. you msut be related to robbi

[@gamewithflynn8973]

I'm a teacher. He looks exactly like every student I've ever had trying to hide their phone on their lap.

[@rapplug139]

Fuck u teacher this is for all your students 😂😂

[@bigstupidgrin]

Me too. We know you aren't just staring at your crotch...

[@zoesdada8923]

Oh shut up

[@Starcrash6984]

Um... every poker player looks like that, because they are obviously trying to hide something. 0_o ...even the non-cheaters. It's a game of hidden information.

[@inkjazz]

@@rapplug139 Fuck you students, this is for all you teachers 🤣🤣

[@topfan2060]

judge: anything else? 69: have you heard of Mike Pos..?

[@jimbomx502]

Top Fan you win the internet today good sir

[@TDASS281]

dam...that was good lol

[@edstrangeway3831]

Top Fan Epic Flex

[@MrBlahblahblah310]

Top Fan this is too much

[@48tho-averysalak39]

Comment of the year .

[@StrangeDaysGaming]

That perfect win ratio reminds me of the scene from the movie Casino when De Niro's character talks about catching cheaters "If they weren't so greedy they'd be harder to spot, but they're all greedy."

[@cameronwest2096]

Strange W A V E great reference. So true

[@AR-jt2ux]

Exactly. Just go out and lose a buy in every once in a while.

[@Starcrash6984]

Similarly, I'm reminded of Rounders where Matt Damon claims he has to "fold the case several times so it's not obvious [that he's cheating]".

[@terrellemills4318]

@@Starcrash6984 Rounders such an underrated movie

[@tonym2513]

Terrelle Mills is it? Really? I find it to be an endless pit of cringe.

[@PriusMike88]

You only look in your lap for 3 reasons. 1. You’re cheating on your exam 2. Your step mom came for thanksgiving dinner and she’s disappeared then reappeared under the table and is unbuttoning your jeans 3. You’re Mike P checking your phone to see what everyones whole cards are

[@markgriffiths3022]

Weird analogy but fair enough

[@dennisrkb]

Just stream the tournament with 2min delay, done.

[@increase9896]

hole

[@TheMr3742]

I wanna be that step daughter to mike

[@moviewatcher4323]

Wtf

[@tommyguns9008]

There’s too much money involved in poker. There should be no electronic devices allowed in any game.

[@stevefromchicago]

100% agree.

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

I'am really surprised he was allowed to use his phone at the table.

[@pokerbeast6402]

you all missed the one that saud that phones werent allowed, that s why he kept staring at his groin, because it was hidden in his lap

[@artstar111]

Encrypted RFID

[@tayloraf5108]

I play competitive chess, in which due to computer technology all phones are banned, and higher tier events have metal detectors for such things too. And yet we are playing for freaking pocket change sometimes even nothing compared to these guys, and very similar AI exists for poker and the money is hundred times bigger and yet they still just allowed to have their phone out at the table?? Crazy if you asked me.

[@sunnydlite-t8b]

Stones investigated Stones and found nothing wrong? Seems legit.

[@SN011GlobeTrot]

Sounds solid like a stone!

[@tjnunez2031]

This is just like when the police investigate themselves. Just saying.

[@semirgj]

I would say it sounds very presidential.

[@stevenhir5528]

Why is stones not at all delayed on the stream?

[@bjhiss27]

@@semirgj LIke the DNC investigating their own servers xD xD

[@Noski699]

He’s stream sniping!! - ninja

[@mr.makedonija2627]

Macedonian?

[@SebuTK]

Hands above the table has been a rule in my group for a long time. Never had one person try to cheat us out

[@Align500pro]

Never caught a cheat..🤷‍♂️

[@maknavickas]

Why ban cell phones at a personal game? If the cards are not being read by a censor or a camera what danger does a cell phone cause?

[@billyrussell8684]

Players getting together to split winnings afterwards and one person can let the other know what they had and so on. The more info you have on a hand the better you can understand the odds of what you are playing against.

[@somerandomguywastaken]

​@@maknavickasyou could team with another guy in the hand I guess, get more info

[@chessbrilliance8783]

"it's so easy when you can see the cards" - Mike Postel.

[@joshpeacock7965]

mike postle on his phone during the poker games looks like kids in school trying to use their phone without the teacher knowing

[@christopherburton5272]

Either this fella’s looking at his phone or he’s given new meaning to checking the nuts

[@AB-wj3si]

🤔

[@Trias805]

@@samanthuh55 Smooth

[@f0t0b0y]

Christopher Burton 😂😂😂

[@jaybingham3711]

@@samanthuh55 u nasty Sam! That's what we love bout u.

[@vincentudeaja3045]

Dead🤣🤣🤣

[@bjornlangoren3002]

The commentators were surely in on it. Folding top pair top kicker on a completely harmless flop is just insane. If Postle had been not complete doorknob, he would call here in order to keep the con going a little longer.

[@lulws4940]

The female commentator on one of the streams is the one who called it out originally

[@jb03hf]

If he is actually cheating or is watching porn on his phone - doesn't matter. If there is a no phones at the table policy - then he is cheating by having the phone.

[@hamedtrump3495]

It’s called breaking the rules. Not cheating bro. Don’t talk stupid.

[@timmyboy04]

@@hamedtrump3495 I get drunk and comment on KZbin sometimes too.

[@clintonbordelon7097]

@@hamedtrump3495 its cheating...if they allowed him on the phone..its not breaking rules

[@alexr.1097]

Hamed Trump breaking the rule is cheating dumbass lo

[@hamedtrump3495]

timmyboy when you represent your country in sport and realise your body is a temple you don’t drink bro. Full stop.

[@skieochre3745]

If someone is smart enough to cheat like that, why aren't they smart enough to lose a few hands to make it look better? How are phones even allowed in an event that is live?

[@Jaytradertee]

Same reason many scammers and cheaters get caught...greed. The ones that arent greedy are still scamming, they just have been caught.

[@futopia]

because ego

[@calcramer]

Excellent comment and my thoughts exactly. How about forcing this “genius” to play a few sessions *without* the crotch phone? Whomever is responsible for running these games is either an absolute moron or in on it. I’d guess the latter.

[@DragonstoneWolfe]

@Dr. M. H. This. xD I deal table games and we have a "no using your phones at the table" rule, usually they pull out the phone and you state the rule. So they put it away.. only to later be looking down in their lap and the obvious phone glow at their belly and even when caught they go "I'm not looking at my phone", like bro seriously? I only know the signs because I did it for 4 years in highschool!

[@jootpepet]

You don't need to be smart to be able to cheat

[@boganpainter1638]

I love how he makes a soul read when he was staring at his lap the entire hand.

[@aaronwalters2033]

Exactly; we've all seen Ivey actually soul read live, and it looks NOTHING like Mike's.

[@harrysapienn7911]

fuck yeah. When you watch Ivey, Antonio, Hansen, Durr, etc they are fucking staring bullets at you the entire time during a hand before they bend you over and rip your soul out of your asshole... but when Postle soul reads, apparently your soul and poker tells is in his lap on his phone,...

[@sunnyboy8644]

exactly.... and who the fuck puts their car keys on the poker table ? that was suspicious too....

[@butcho7492]

🤣🤣🤣

[@araymond1able]

@@harrysapienn7911 It's a Smart Soul Phone. It has Gigabytes of souls listed.

[@mrmidnight32]

The fact phones are allowed during live play at a tourney is what gets me. Most venues won’t even let you hold a device on regular table play. Let alone a tourney.

[@imawindis1600]

not to mention your hands needs to be on the table at all times. not to sure actually

[@pepelepar515]

phones can be on the table, visible to all. you can use your phone when not in a hand. i occasionally record my session on my phone, but its always visible. Postle, however, is a snake

[@KirbyJ89]

No smart watches either vibrating texts on wether to fold raise call ect. Number of vibrates = call to make.

[@dougied2054]

They are cash games. Not tournaments. In this video.

[@abpob6052]

No casino type games that involve money should be live streamed. They should all be delayed at least 10 minutes to ensure there is no inappropriate tech involvement. Also no electronic devices should be allowed at a table including music players and headphones. There's always a chance that someone could be feeding information to the players thru the devices

[@optimalpowersimracing6625]

Dude, live streaming broadcast software has had delays for years, why a TO would opt not to use it is beyond me... Absolutely embarrassing on the tournament organizers end, and how an NBA team can tell players no cell phones on the bench or a suspension, and you cant tell players phone in your pockets or automatic DQ is also beyond me.

[@dt90891]

Texting opposing players’ hands is so possible and I believe he had help. And maybe a card or two. Who knows. I’d immediately ban phones and have all hands above the table to counter these attempts.

[@ItsOldGreggg]

@@optimalpowersimracing6625 because poker is a game where the house makes $0.00 they therefore give zero ***** about what happens at the table they don't care if you cheat they don't care because they are not losing or winning. you play blackjack and try to have your phone out the dealer or the pitboss would be on your ass so fast.

[@derekadair5320]

it is... SO easy to do a delay. Absolutely senseless of them to do it this way. They could even maintain live commentary/audience interaction by making the broadcasters watch on a delay as well.

[@OwMeEd]

@Kevin Alvarez The house makes money on these tournaments, they get paid to host the event or get marketing exposure. And for non-tournaments, there is such thing as a rake.

[@mbjlukas]

Stone did not enforce the rule of “no phones”. Therefore Stone needs to pay back each player in all of the tournaments (after the rule started) their buy ins and expenses.

[@onbored9627]

he could still wear an earpeice

[@youonlyliveonce12ish]

There is a rule that states you cannot use an electronic device to get an advantage.

[@onbored9627]

@@youonlyliveonce12ish hence why it's called cheating

[@hoooptie]

The only way thatd possibly happen is with a lawsuit

[@brocksnyder5889]

Electronics should not be allowed at the table. Period.

[@acegibson9533]

I think a more reasonable rule would be no phones during a hand. Once you fold or the dealer is shuffling cards or there is a dealer change, then I wouldn't have a problem with people using their phones.

[@zzbudzz]

@@Brian-vk1hm Then they can go outside and look at their phone ...Play cards at the table not look at facebook or cheat

[@alittlewheiser521]

No phones, no hats, no long sleeves and no hoodies.

[@sonoflethal]

@@acegibson9533 have your friend at the table and they fold, they check the stream at look at %, they message you if your hand is worse. You're phone vibrates in your pocket and you back out

[@jorgborg345]

You’re a moron

[@fyof5540]

If opponents cards are being relayed to him, somehow, they need to put the livestream on a delay, a delay of at least one hand. In fact, just ban phones at the table. That'll solve possible cheating!!!

[@humbleservant5985]

then how are anti gun people gonna call for help when everyone is getting stabbed or shot...

[@backpackzak8448]

There's a 30 minute delay, it's now known that the commentator Justin, who's also the poker room manager, was feeding the info to him live.

[@CowSaysMooMoo]

you can't relay something live to the booth, which he should have no access to, 2 minutes later......

[@MicahRousey]

Less evidence of cheating in other games at a casino gets you tackled by security.

[@ecomm7048]

That's why mike doesn't play at casinos. It's crazy how obvious he makes it. Lows stakes (less criminal) he only plays at one place, and is never seen at a casino or playing against real pros for real money. Because he knows he will end up dead or in prison.

[@DSW_314]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. ~ resident of Las Vegas

[@santiagomagic859]

Thats because the casino isnt being cheated, its the other players getting scammed.... the casino still colllects the rake regardless of who wins...

[@MicahRousey]

@@santiagomagic859 Yes, but if you're caught pulling chips from the person in the seat next to you at a blackjack table, you'll get tackled by security. The casino's interest in also in the safety of it's customers.

[@Casnazer]

Yeah, and no establishment wants to get burned because of a scammer

[@Harbz]

Would love to see Postle play on the friday game at the Bike, would be hilarious to watch him get destroyed, or have to switch his play style to a nit

[@SilverShrimpTX]

Postle would get his ass handed to him at the Bike! :P

[@XThentre]

18:53 Everyone: He could have Kx Postle: Well he can’t have Kx because he has A9s

[@janelmorgan8348]

XThentre lmfao

[@JorgeRodriguez-iq7vb]

You can not cheat in a tournament game unless you have inside help. His behavior is suspicious enough to where any one should have called for an investigation. Had I been at one of those tables I would have gotten up and made him show not only what he was holding but I also would have called him a cheat and done what should be done to cheaters.

[@davidclaudy4822]

You mean like the movie Casino?

[@alisterx8698]

Brake their dominant hand with a hammer.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@davidclaudy4822 He just running his pie hole.

[@tashawn2222]

He was the IT guy that set up their system there.

[@rumbleofdrums527]

"We're on the River here at the grand in Vegas." "Yes, looks like Jorge Rodrriguez has a life sized cigarette lighter that looks just like 44 magnum revolver" BANG

[@hectorrivera9810]

Let me make it EASY for everyone "IF HE WAS THIS GOOD WHERE ARE HIS WINNINGS IN WSOP AND BRACELETS, ALONG WITH WPT CHAMPIONSHIPS!?!? Nope only in Stone cash games...

[@evraljones9862]

Right.. this guy would be crushing everywhere. Literally the greatest poker player of all time if he is that good.

[@tonylin9999]

Wsop is no phone

[@847JS]

@Mr nelson dumbest comment of the year award goes to.........

[@Steezy93]

This is the most obvious case of cheating I've ever seen... I hope he gets sued

[@rolandtomassi3486]

Yeah sued, America i

[@tristanjacobson5199]

John Manci no he deserves to get beaten up by everyone that he cheated and let them take all his money and assets.

[@Criticalthinking788.]

The ultimate degenerate

[@JMacSD]

@@rolandtomassi3486 Yeah gutted, old time America !

[@MrAlwaysRight]

It's also the most oblivious cheese of cating I've never sawed....I hope he gets used.

[@wushu1984]

He’s picking up all them live tells from his lap...

[@andytellmann1344]

Yeah, staring down at his lap and then lifting his head up just in time for some heroics in a 4-way pot with shit. lol

[@daithi1966]

He's just flopping the nuts.

[@EcnalKcin]

"We have investigated ourselves and have determined there was no wrongdoing"

[@justinfeinberg9862]

Soul reads when you're looking at your lap the whole time.

[@adigangsta]

The penis acts as a soul periscope. :))))

[@Divinevert]

Totally standard

[@justinfeinberg9862]

​@Rabbi Hershowitz Interracialpornstein Next level exploitative play.

[@daithi1966]

That's were I look for the nuts.

[@roadrunner9622]

Good point. He's supposedly reading people, yet all he ever looks at during the hand is his chips or his phone.

[@yoloinvesting8749]

If stones casino doesn’t make good on this we as a community should stop playing at the establishment

[@theduckkilla]

I would never play there. Jaman Burton has a fucking vlog called “avoid mike postle” from playing at stones. Fuckin bullshit we should all find him and beat the shit out of him. Politically.

[@pokerqAK47]

How can anyone play there after this video? Investigation my ass

[@daithi1966]

They're actually running a larger than normal tournament there this weekend. I was planning on going, but now I think I'll skip the hour and half drive.

[@jc624]

@@daithi1966 definitely go, the tournament will have a layover for sure. they cant cheat you if you're not on stream.

[@daithi1966]

@@jc624 I'm not worried about getting cheated at the tournament. I'm opposed to supporting a casino that doesn't take cheating seriously.

[@JeffBoski]

At 9:47 I had enough of the superusing

[@DrewCrew37]

No shit. It's like the guy had POCKET 5's and knew a 5 would hammer the river! btw, hope things are well!

[@lukadevcic7578]

Genuine question, have you actually realised anything about him before everything started on twitter a few days ago?

[@joshuabyrd9737]

I am very disturbed bye this wut this means is alot of small card rooms around the world is using this technology to have there locol pros stay winners I see this alot alot of local regulars are winners 9outa ten hands very disappointed bye this I've hade suspecions

[@joshuabyrd9737]

This is also y I only play tournaments because you can fold so many hands you would normally play n cash games tournaments are we're the real poker is at even Kno game can still be compromised you can just outplay people bye folding n knowing when to put it all in

[@JeffBoski]

@@lukadevcic7578 Prior to this trip to Stones, I had never heard of Mike Postle. I thought it was strange how much praise he got from everyone at Stones. All of the locals warned me to "avoid playing pots with him." I asked why and they just said "He runs too good!" It was weird how they put Postle on a pedestal.

[@chaseaaronthomasify]

"Touch your left eye if we need to text him that he's being too obvious"

[@thecarpet2119]

I don’t mind either a lie, cheat or steal in this particular situation

[@jimmckeon9720]

LOL

[@paularized1]

I see what ya did there. Well played.

[@zeptime3473]

I’m glad it wasn’t 5 hours to hear this story.

[@spiritofatlantisreaddescri1007]

Thank you for exposing all questionable plays and players it's people like you that make beginners like me feel more comfortable playing

[@josegonzalez-ph5ck]

How’s the tables going now?

[@mrnimbus730]

Don't ever feel comfortable. There is so many more ways to get beat, it just hasn't been found yet.

[@jhansen6180]

I want to see him play in a neutral location. He plays better than Phil Ivey…

[@dianecandoflamtaps3688]

I'm blown away at how the guys next to him, or anyone really didn't find it suspicious the way he was looking down and taking so can long!!

[@Digitalkeyboardwarrior]

“Yes they really are Matt Burkeys cards” 😂😂😂 Get him to the Bike 😵

[@thecritic3959]

🤣 “Go On!”

[@davidriley9621]

GTO is really OPTIMAL if you know the other player's cards

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

Mike is as sneaky as a high schooler trying to hide their phone in class 😂

[@BluezFan91]

Matthew Sawczyn hahah So true. That’s how we all know that body language.

[@resiack]

Seriously, the stupid faces he makes as he clumsily looks at his lap and pretends like he's just stretching/massaging his sore neck is pathetic.

[@johnjohn-br9bz]

Exactly all us young cunts can see it

[@chrisg7340]

true, but the old guys in charge aren't high schooler's. Perhaps they should hire a few as they know EXACTLY what to look for.

[@mistressliz3891]

His greed got him caught. If he hadn't won so much, so fast, and played in a way where it was obvious that he knew his opponents hands, it's unlikely that anyone would have found out.

[@T3n50r]

A smart person doesn't have to cheat to be profitable

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

But he wasn't only cheating for himself. There were others in on the scam, and they had to be paid as well. So the incentive was to try to wring as much money out as possible.

[@cxsu-mz2hf]

just soon or later

[@bxbbyxx]

Absolutely baffling why streams would not be at a 5 min delay or something.

[@exqueue3813]

The scam is that he was being fed the information on other player's hands by someone in the production crew. He wasn't watching the live stream.

[@lawrencecomer1264]

Bro omm I look at aplo8 game so stone they said it's a 30 min delay on the stream

[@Dlck.C.Normous]

There actually was a 5 minute delay but like others have said it didn't matter because he had someone in the production crew sending him live info.

[@elyastoohey6621]

People in tournaments shouldn’t be allowed to use electronics while in a hand. Yes headphones and music. No constant use of tech.

[@TSH425]

@@elyastoohey6621 or u can have a rule that people who are afflicted are not allowed to be in the production crew

[@Bbknuckles]

“Why everyone’s freaking out” Literally never heard about this. Come to think of it, why tf is this in my recommended!? I don’t gamble and don’t know how to play poker lol wth. With saying that, this video did a good job breaking it down. I stayed and watched the entire video. 😅

[@johncrrll3885]

Lol.... that's why the machines will win

[@stevef4010]

Recommended to me too....agree. I used to watch poker 10+ years ago, but not since. I didn't even know they had RFID tech in cards and I am stunned that cell phones are allowed at tables during play. That's really strange. Don't recall that ever happening at WSOP or any TV poker shows. Seems like streaming entertainment cheating/rigging like video games on Twitch.

[@pyrobryan]

I once saw an article about and actor and how she changed her anti-depressant medication and now she says it made a huge difference in her life. Ever since I read that one article about her, I get about 2-3 articles about her in my news feed every day. I don't get it. I read more about video games, board games and movies, but they rarely show up in feed. Read one article about medication, which happens to be about an actor, and now Ariel Winter is all Google thinks I care about.

[@taddimason1498]

I don't play poker. But I do live like 3 minutes from stones. Maybe thats why this is in my recommended videos lol.

[@jeffwells641]

"I stayed and watched the entire video." That's why it was recommended to you. Something in your watch habits told the algorithm "yeah, this guy will watch this, probably the whole thing". You don't even have to like it, just watch it, because that what the algorithm maximises - watch time.

[@malekrhaddad]

Now that he’s “exposed”, let’s see if he continues his “winning streak”. That’ll give us the truth...

[@darwinmac4967]

Wont prove a thing unless he gets caught redhanded.

[@joecoolioness6399]

@@darwinmac4967 but if all of a sudden he turns into the average decent poker player, instead of an amazing, read everything poker player, it would definitely confirm that something is going on. But why not just have a tournament official walk over to him right when he is looking at his phone and see what he is looking at, seems simple to me. Or ask him to show his phone, and even if he refuses, he is at least now going to know he is being watched and probably cut back on doing it.

[@mak.lee_pnw5098]

Has he played since being exposed?

[@glenshort6567]

Malek Haddad we already know he’s cheating. It’s very obvious

[@brick9017]

@@joecoolioness6399 lol legally that doesn’t really mean anything. The only way legal action can be taken is if they catch him in the act or people come out and say they knew about it

[@charlestompkins8819]

“If there’s an angle, my brother will find it!”

[@RapMasterG]

Would love to see a quick montage of all of Postle’s river decisions.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Once you said "won all his sessions" I'm inclined to believe cheating. EDIT: after watching whole video I'm 98% sure he is cheating. Easiest way in the world to test the theory is have him play somewhere else. Will that happen? Hell nah

[@adilsbai6715]

Lol I rly dont get how you still give "honesty 2%. :D

[@justtowatch111]

@@adilsbai6715 You nailed it. The ONLY reason Doug did not say he cheated was to do so would have put him in a possible law suit situation. I am 100 percent certain that MP should have been cast in The Sting. He would have been at home there.

[@peterandersen6050]

there are more than 200 houers play with mike poatle, and its ALL THE SAME .ask 200,000 poker players who have played 100,000+ poker hands and all 200,000 poker players would say Mike Postle CHEATS in a way where can see the others' cards or get them advised = all 200,000 poker players would say he CHEATS if they are not themselves in it POINTS

[@TiltEV]

He's obviously watching Daniel Negreanu's MasterClass course on his phone Poker god

[@jamesang4911]

Fuck the pros

[@royforney6159]

You gotta understand, everything you do at the table conveys information... to Mike Postle's phone

[@Bamyasi]

Y'all are overreacting: he's just got a tasty sandwich in his lap.

[@teacheralejandro1516]

He's all loosey goosey.

[@JackSonagain101]

Roy Forney lmfaooo

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

I haven’t been allowed to have my phone out at a holdem table since before 2009.... So this being allowed, especially on a streamed event id off to begin with.

[@danielnegreanu1127]

If someone cheats, it's actually better.

[@markyboyruthless927]

Wonder when you would appear Dnegs

[@voldo123]

fucking ded

[@Reign274]

Pros don't want to play with cheaters, so as long as the ameteurs stay out of hands with the cheater, they end up winning more money over the session with a cheater at the table than if there wasn't one.

[@nick2629]

dead

[@hardhouseinc]

more rake is better cheating makes more big pots Which makes more rake So checks out

[@fredfenner199]

"The graphics were wrong" does not necessarily mean "the RFID misread the cards." The cards can be correctly identified by the RFID but they show different cards on the screen. That said, dude is 100% cheating.

[@patrickdolan2014]

That would be a cool/relevant bit of info if we can find out if the graphics fail for other players just as often

[@rln8682]

The fact that I never heard of him until now and that he is not crushing tournaments or cash games outside of this venue tells me he is cheating. Somebody is telling the holdings on the sly. His odd plays and results only indicate cheating. Plain and simple.

[@darrenwestlow7809]

Doug, how are they seeing the player's hole cards? Are there cameras in front that read them or is it some sort of scanning system of the cards? If it's the old camera at table format, what can't the players just refuse to show the camera their cards? That then removes the possibility of someone feeding him the info digitally

[@samholt8867]

Doug clearly you are just making this up because you cannot see all the livereads Mike has on his opponents tells. Mike doesnt have to tell you them, but they're there.

[@generichuman2044]

I personally use the look in my lap, live tell technique. Gets me the read on my opponent every time. In fact, it works so well that I lay down top top to a single flop bet

[@samnjoefiddler2565]

LOL

[@cpeterso]

Fuck off

[@fifou6394]

55 likes for this bullshit, wtf?

[@fifou6394]

Obviously trolling... I fell for it

[@plikityplak]

This is quickly going to become Doug's most watch video.

[@ElevatingConscious]

*watched

[@timthompson8297]

I find it amazing that he got away with it for one second. He never should have been allowed to use any electronics during a game.

[@bendagostino2217]

Here in Australia, you're not allowed to pull out your phone at the table. Pretty common sense rule.

[@jeevesgeech6836]

i think its a rule in general just they let some ''celebs'' get away with it or in this case regs for streams however i think they need to just ban phones as a golden rule.... they have the you have to walk away from the table rule at the casino i go to and your hand is dead as well if you leave....but they are strict as hell almost too strict but it at least limits the cheating so it works..... i saw them call a hand dead after a guy stood up which is just wrong but i would rather that then have some asshat take my money cause he knows my cards

[@MoreThanBlocks.]

Forget live at the bike I’m sure he couldn’t beat my local casino players at 1/2 😂😂😂

[@DJDonkeytron]

The bike has 1/2. Couldn't beat that rake tho.

[@teacheralejandro1516]

"You can't be all loosey goosey, having a sandwich, being on your phone, whoohoo! I love it, baby!" -Tom Dwan, 1985.

[@WhatILoveAboutMusic64]

I heard Daniel Negreanu say the same thing.

[@InfernoPS]

@@WhatILoveAboutMusic64 Masterclass !

[@WhatILoveAboutMusic64]

@InfernoPS Yeah, that was it!

[@mohammedkaoud5229]

Gary Maruna That’s the point of the joke dumbass

[@thecritic3959]

This quote definitely came from Tony G in 2022

[@obbldudeTV]

I think Stones is behind it just gonna throw that out here

[@deppresedonion6320]

Definitly i thought that straight away aswell .like the hand with 5.4 his right next to the dealer its nuts

[@gordonyoung1970]

I ran poker games in Moscow for 12 years, I NEVER allowed mobile phones on the table, i dont care how much the players scream and yell, its asking for trouble. This came about from personal experience on a BJ table, when phones were allowed, the phone was left flat on the table with the camera pointed at the dealers hands, the dealer was holding the cards rather high so thet the camera could read the dealt cards clearly , this was relayed to an accomplice sitting in a car outside then relayed to a hiden microphone in the players ear . The player was now winning $100,000 before someone (im not sure who it was ) at the table realised, I was on the poker table. This was Moscow, so lets say the player was escorted by " security" outside to the accomplice in the car , they were forced to repay the $100,000 and i believe a hefty fine was imposed of $50,000, Cheaper than the potential hospital bills . Anyway that started the ban on mobile phones on the gaming tables , there were only mild complaints. To me its disrespectful to other players using a phone on the table and completely uneccessary

[@liamb.8519]

"it doesn't seem funny now"

[@mileslamaire9606]

Speaking as a high schooler who often has to hide my phone to go on it in class. He's definitely on his phone.

[@enigmaPL]

And you're not embarrassed to admit that?? That you can't even sit through class without looking at your moron device? Pathetic.

[@BarakGage]

enigmaPL you’re trying to roast a random internet high schooler for literally nothing you are the pathetic one here champ lol

[@enigmaPL]

@@BarakGage What exactly did I say that was 'trying to roast' him??? You sound like you got your feelings hurt more than he did you big bitch.

[@Long-Horse]

@@enigmaPL why do you care?

[@hyperhektor7733]

do you play as high roller in school?

[@mydogsbestfren7490]

im with Joey im getting pissed off watching this. i played in a HU tourney w/ Mike at Thunder Valley near Sacramento 2 years ago. it was a big day for me so i remember it well. i won the first lvl in about 10 hands and had a 2 hr wait for the next lvl. i railed Mike's match and noticed he knew the guy he was playing and that they made virtually no plays against each other and just folded for 2 hrs before Mike won. I remember our HU match because of one particular hand where Mike check raised the turn all in and i tank folded. the pot was pushed to Mike and i said " i wanted to call you so bad " to which Mike very quickly responded with a sigh of relief looking away saying " that would have been bad "... we started talking and he told me he's been playing 13+ years and used to play with Devilfish. to think someone who has taken the game so seriously for so long would do this is disturbing to say the least. i look back and think there's a fair chance he had some extra advantage and was very slyly using his table talk to distract me. Mike went on to win 2nd or 3rd in the tourney and i drove back to Reno so upset that I didnt jam the turn in that one hand. hearing Mike in commentary talking about his brother looking for any angle, coupled with the sigh of relief he had in our HU match absolutely makes me think these were freudian slips. thanks for bringing this to light Doug, Joey and whoever else. i think there's more to this story however i dont feel comfortable sharing it here as it is just an assumption at this point - LuckyPuppy

[@Steve-eb8jc]

unlikely he was cheating against you there. How could he? He relies on the stream for RFIDs.

[@mydogsbestfren7490]

Sisyphus you dont know what he's doing

[@mydogsbestfren7490]

THEGLORYRISING exactly. also my comment said there's more to this but i don't want to speak on it as its an assumption at this point. to which SISYPHUS left a very a SISYPHUS comment based in ignorance. if anything my comment shows postle is willing to collude as i watched him and his buddy just fold blinds for TWO HOURS

[@anthonyflynn1332]

Sorry to hear dude. I hope & I'm sure it's gonna come out. Allot of people who got played are gonna be rightfully very angry. He would be on the wanted posters in the old wild west with a bounty on his head. I think there's a possy behind him though. Others are in on this.

[@ares12351]

Can someone explain what’s going on about 20 minutes in when they’re talking about how “the graphics were wrong” ??? I didn’t understand that part.

[@playhd00]

The viewers were not seeing the correct card the players had in that hand on the screen, the graphics showd the wrong cards

[@Muhahahahaz]

Basically, the idea would be that if Stones is in on the cheating, they can actually change which cards we think he has So like in this scenario, his actual cards were a pure bluff, but on stream they lied to say “actually, he has a straight, but our technology messed up” The thing is, his opponent ends up folding, so he never has to show anyone his physical cards. We just have to take the stream’s word for it that “oh, our RFID chips got the cards ‘wrong’ at first, but then we ‘fixed’ the issue” (which literally doesn’t make sense from a technical standpoint, especially without them even touching the cards)

[@cmac6136]

Whoever thought is was a good idea to let them have their phones while live streaming the game is a tool.

[@mikeroberts2156]

He's got a big set of balls even to try and cheat at a table? Now that he's caught watch what he does now to try and get out of it.

[@jdmcapitalsolutions2215]

It's obvious he's cheating but you left out some of the more alarming hands. Him losing the min on the river with the nut flush versus a straight flush and again with a weaker boat. Both times he lost the min. And then you have the famous 9-5 hand from twitch where insta jams post-flop into AQoff and 64ss, says he can't lose the hand, and then the 7 peels on the turn giving the guy a gutter and he verbally says "oh shit" when his opponent hasn't shown his hand yet. I hope this guy rots in jail for a long time.

[@mydogsbestfren7490]

wow. freudian slips galore. things always turn around Mr Postle

[@pabuttle]

Have you got a time link to this hand on Joey's 5 hour video, or another video on KZbin?

[@grxygxds]

Agreed

[@ifkq]

@@pabuttle yes a timestamp link to these hands on Joe's video would be great

[@vincemok3441]

how can u cheat by looking at ur phone tho lol. is there an App tells you what ur players have?

[@andrzejwsol]

anyone know the song playing in the background at 16:00?

[@michaelkrailo5725]

I think it would be funny to see how Mike would react to getting his phone signal jammed during the game. Wait a minute guys, I lost my signal.

[@inferno3080]

Lol

[@squanch4458]

This is what we call “stream sniping”

[@carlosmatos9848]

Yeah but the stream is on a delay, it has to be more elaborate than that

[@flappy7373]

@@carlosmatos9848 the stream is delayed, but the raw feed isn't. Having the raw feed to your phone is simple when you've got a guy on the inside.

[@carlosmatos9848]

@@flappy7373 Yeah you're right. I wasn't sure how he was doing it at first, but that makes the most sense. It's almost idiot proof you've got everyone elses hand, and the win probabilities. Shooting fish in a barrel.

[@DoPtRiGGa]

Could also be hacking the RFID's

[@DoPtRiGGa]

I'd say its blatantly obvious hes stream sniping, or someone else is sending him card information as they view the raw feed, or someone is hacking the RFID's simply my opinion but i'd say he's def. cheating

[@jdoggg1119]

Guarantee if they strictly enforced their no-phone policy, his winning streak would come to an end.

[@SamM-kh2vd]

Exactly. I don't get why they don't just do that lol. Although im sure he would find another way.... ear piece, tech glasses, something lol

[@MrJamberee]

Indeed. The should just take away his lucky phone.

[@blowc1612]

Sameer Mehta there are now technology that allows people to listen through their bones. There are hats being sold that emits sound in certain location so that certain bones can pick up on this and it produces sound for you to hear. This tech has been out for years now.

[@calibre97]

Not enough. Add: exact same hats supplied by 3rd party to everyone. Exact same sunglasses supplied by 3rd part to everyone. No RFID. Sponsor a multi-hour no-tech (no RFID, just old school at-the-table poker) session. He should be able to post similar results, no? Or change the RFID to glass and underneath cameras like a lot of places have - nothing transmitting but video and have that on delay to the commentators.

[@moshethehebrew8328]

He's watching the live stream of the game he's playing in because everybody hand is on the screen

[@reppingl]

The stream delay is too long for that to be possible. He’s getting info from the people who run the stream

[@Alex_Hart]

that rap god part so good

[@BasedNeptune]

It was fanpostletic

[@RobertS122]

Someone on the show is definitely in on this scam. Guys in the booth are way too jolly about this obviously weird behavior

[@kingsfan4evr24]

Robert S The facts are overwhelming in favor of cheating but I can't believe that the announcers are in on it. I mean they've been through so many people in that booth. At some point there would have been a whistleblower sooner. Just my opinion. Doesn't change fact that someone else is definitely involved.

[@RobertS122]

@@kingsfan4evr24 not necessarily a commentator or guest but someone on the production team for the show is either feeding him information from the rfid hand display or he's somehow rigged his phone to do so

[@DarrenSemotiuk]

@@kingsfan4evr24 Somebody talk to Alex Fitzgerald -- his guest commentating was fantastic and entertaining but I wonder if he ever heard or saw anything about this during his time there...

[@readilium3432]

The Manhattan Project. Thousands of people working on it for years and years, and not a single peep.

[@JGunit]

No phones during a hand, period, for anyone. Then let's see how he does.

[@mafongojr164]

how can holding a phone help you during a hand?

[@MmmChipotle]

@@mafongojr164 did you watch the video?

[@michaels7368]

Agreed!!

[@fj73crusier19]

@@mafongojr164 live feed?

[@raphael2407]

not only during a hand. Make it "no phones at the table, period"

[@orionsimerl6539]

The hands you point out where he seems to know he's beat are interesting. 18:35The first hand where he folds top pair to the straight we need to know how much the bet on the turn was. If it was an overpot bet from a conservative player he could suspect that this player has the straight, or at least 2 pair or hit a set. It depends on how high the bet is relative to the pot and the behavior of the player making the bet throughout the night. 18:40 is interesting, but again, how much is the bet he folds to relative to the pot and how has this player been playing up to that point. If it is a fairly conservative player making a bet that's way over the pot you can put that player on having hit a pocket pair and fold AK. Even a pot sized bet from a conservative player who has bet top pair wins at half pot or less earlier, making a pot sized bet could indicate that he's hit a set. The call may not be as unusual as it seems. In fact, the guy with the set pushed all in. It looks like Apostle raised, was reraised and then the guy with the set pushed. This is actually a fairly easy fold. You can put the reraise or the all in on a flush draw. But you also have to put one of them on something better than top pair to justify that kind of action. This isn't a good example either. It's actually an easy fold. 19:00 The 5 K K Q flop depends on the behavior of the opponent as well. In the hand, they both check on the flop. Joe may be slow playing a set on the flop. Then Joe makes a small bet which means either he has the set and doesn't want Postle to fold, or he wants to make it seem that way because he wants Postle to fold so he can take the pot. Postle reraises two bets over which in that situation means either he has the K and wants to get value while he has Joe on the hook, or he wants to make it look that way to bluff the pot. Joe calls on the flush draw. On the river Joe checks. Joe could be checking because he has the king and wants Postle to bet into it. It may also mean he has the queen but doesn't know if Postle has the king. Of course it can also mean he tried to buy the pot on the turn with a small be to make it seem like he hit the set, and when he was raised he called on a flush draw. If he hit the queen he may not have called since he'd be drawing dead against the kings that postle could have. At the river you know he doesn't have the king because if he did he would have reraised Postle on the turn. Based on his behavior in the hand it is easy to put him on a missed flush draw without a pair. The preflop raise means there is a good chance he has an Ace. Ace Jack or Ace 10 of clubs at best where he may have called a potential set on a flush draw plus a possible straight draw. It isn't hard to put him on Ace high which means it makes sense to value bet the river because Joe is likely to call. Joe may think Postle tried to buy the pot on the turn and he also missed the board but without an Ace. There's nothing unusal about this play either.

[@Thepippinator2]

lol. So he just watches the livestream of his own poker game. Nice.

[@MrAlwaysRight]

Do you not film yerself poopin n'then watch'it?

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

If there was an angle for my brother, he'll postle it.

[@saadjubran2574]

You was saying there is no proof, well that's it

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

@@saadjubran2574 I mentioned that a couple of times too, that his brother wouldn't even trust him

[@pietjepuk6603]

27:14 "First off, I think Stones should release the footage of just Mike specifically. So you know how it goes from player to player in the context of a hand, well just the footage of Mike and how he operates in all of the hands so we can see where his eyes are and what he's doing, I think that will go a long way." That would show how he is cheating!!!!

[@joebobby1412]

2:33 did Doug make this? I can’t find it.

[@joeware5904]

Hoping Doug gets so mad at commentators he rips his sleeves off

[@robertcox5861]

When you are playing for tens of thousands of dollars, what could be so important on your phone that you need to look at it DURING THAT HAND? Unless of course it is what is in your opponents' hands.

[@prohopscs8142]

im not defending him but i do that when im nervous

[@MrAlwaysRight]

Tiddies, bruh.

[@mobiblaize]

@@MrAlwaysRight Relaxes the mind

[@daveyfadess]

I stopped playing the regular 2/5 at foxwoods when I caught the old guys texting each other at the table an exposing cards.

[@MTGMitch]

was this recently? Im there right now (for the first time in a long time)

[@ifkq]

That's unfortunate. Did you call them out or how did that situation play out?

[@daveyfadess]

@@ifkq it's the regular game. Two 2/5 every morning for the last 5 years. Same group of old men. Everytime. I figured out who flashes cards while folding, slightly lift's the cards . Same guys are always in the opposite seats. So I would sit next to one of them an I also would literally get to see the guys cards on the end,Everytime. These guys get there first thing, an grab the seats that help.. They try to isolate players plus other things I noticed including texting. It's been on going for years. The floor knows them all. I brought it up once. Told him he keeps showing cards when he folds. The older guy flipped out on me . .... . I just think it's more common then we think.

[@ifkq]

@@daveyfadess dang sounds fishy. I'm totally going to shamelessly call them out when I play there.

[@hehehenry964]

What’s that downward sloping graph hanging the background? 😅

[@curtisw502]

That's Luke Schwartz's Poker Stars lifetime earnings graph

[@redicerap]

i feel like literally everyone missed that epic RAP GOD part of ingram. thats some epic video editing over there!

[@aceliu5997]

I put that on replay. Watched it like 6 times

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

Mike "Every hand has a story" Postle

[@godkev]

Doug, this is AWESOME. Great skills, very nice video. This story rocks! Brilliant researches These guys are going down... thanks to you in part. Eye opener. This is GROSS!!!

[@joshuapatrick682]

I love coming back to the classics! Angle Torelli making a cameo reminds me of the time he was deep in the main and tanked relentlessly off a super short stack and when he did double or triple up immediately recommended going hand for hand unsolicited. That's the Angle Torelli I know!

[@robertlogan9682]

So considering that it's about 90% certain he's cheating then only break 9 of his fingers

[@MrJamberee]

9 and fracture the 10th. It’s more than 90%.

[@MrAlwaysRight]

You have 2 first names wtf!

[@mediterraneandiet2483]

“Mike. It has been determined that you been cheating almost every time. So we’re going to break almost all your bones.” Big Louis (probably)

[@Prozonen11]

IM looking forward seeing his results after the pressure.. also wondering how the other players at the table gonna react to this now

[@chrisnenshati7400]

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[@Prozonen11]

@@chrisnenshati7400 wow thanks. Instead of checking it out, let me get ur bank details and let me transfer you 4.500$ mate!

[@chrisnenshati7400]

@@Prozonen11 I'm not sure what your implying bro. But it is the future of poker.

[@Strype13]

Definitely seems suspicious. Does he look down at his lap every time he gets involved in a hand? I mean, it'd become pretty obvious at that point...

[@tulipstothemoon349]

If 10%of player's payed attention at the table, then 1 player should have noticed it. But from my experience with people playing poker...what were we talking about again?

[@SN011GlobeTrot]

@@tulipstothemoon349 Back when I played live I definitely would have picked up on that I paid attention to everything, being a body language reading machine as my go to money making style in conjunction with my superior cash knowledge of nlh for the time...

[@jounazi8125]

@@SN011GlobeTrot but he has hat on his Eyes, so you cant see where he looks.

[@DarrenSemotiuk]

@@tulipstothemoon349 Geez pay attention! Also, who raised preflop?

[@Lazereer]

Whats the name of the background song playing?

[@philnunzio9788]

Thanks for the vid Doug

[@MrSkill_420]

I'm so glad you collated all of Joe's 4 hour streams into a condensed, edible version.

[@DSW_314]

HERE'S THE SMOKING GUN. 💨 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2fcfYFpZ7GjfbM 3:01 Mike Postle informs the player to his left that his cards didn't show up on the RFID scanner, and asks him to put his cards on the scanner again, BEFORE the Dealer says anything. How the hell would he know that? Why the hell would he care? This example clearly demonstrates that Postle has real-time access to the card data, and also proves that the Dealer is complicit and incompetent. A comment like that would've set off plenty of alarms at any legit casino or professional poker tournament.

[@justinbreedlove8835]

I just don't get how he could be looking at his phone Everytime making these calls and nobody calls him out at the table

[@cocorkiller2322]

Nice bud. My plants came out jammin. And ya I'd call him on that.

[@justinbreedlove8835]

@JT Nelson they spend hours and hours listen to music on there phone but I'm pretty sure it'll probably change now

[@roadrunner9622]

No one wants to accuse someone of cheating. But I agree it's ridiculous that anyone in a live hand is allowed to fiddle with their phone.