Major Norfolk Southern Train Derailment on the Lehigh line at MP84

[@truckinpoppop6777]

How the hell does one train rear end another in 2024? It’s not 1924

[@RailfanLandon8271]

I don't even know

[@neilwilliams5173]

Its unbelievable but true even today Some one wiser than myself made a quote “shit happens”

[@MilwaukeeF40C]

I can think of a lot of scenarios even with automation. Sht happens.

[@OperatorMaxYT]

We have PTC but this still happens

[@whiteknightcat]

It'll be MUCH safer if they ever go to single-person "crews". Really! The railroads said so!

[@djburris1961]

Great content. But, the captions flashed so fast you need to be a speed reader to read them.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

I was hoping that wouldn't happen. Thanks for watching, though!

[@philjackson1722]

You so right. Needs to slow it

[@lowellfultz1990]

The pause button is your friend.

[@hornhospital]

Which then covers the caption with the time bar! I AM a speed reader and still couldn't read them fast enough!

[@lowellfultz1990]

@@hornhospital Minor distraction really. I didn't have any issues. I just cringe when people b!tch about free stuff.

[@MrGaryg20047]

Looks like erosion from the rain, and thank God the train crew managed to get out of the train engines alive!

[@michaelnotigan7796]

The floating yellow object the boat crew is handling is an oil boom, which will be used to collect any oil or diesel fuel that makes it to the river. Being lighter than water, fuel and oil is collected via vacuum and absorbent rags by haz mat crews. Great job on the photos and reporting, Landon!

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Thanks for the information!

[@ocsrc]

Why did they rip put the ATCS on this line ? There used to be over the air ATCS in Topton and Emmaus and the west and east end of the yard behind Bethlehem Steel and through Easton into NJ. They had the data on channel 5, the BCPs were on 936.9375 MHz and all the signals and switches and track block indicators were on MCPs on 897.9375 MHz. If they had these on the air and the locomotives equipped with the ATCS PTC it would show the red signals and stop the locomotives before they reach them. We absolutely need that safeguard against human error.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

No clue NS corporate needs to get there heads checked

[@Wildfire86872]

ATCS just deals with controlling switches and signals. It's not part of PTC. At least the old version of it. If you are no longer getting data, more than likely it's been converted over to the new 220Mhz ITCM that is piggybacked on PTC. If they removed CTC from the line (hence no ATCS) it should still have PTC.

[@floridaboii]

​@@Wildfire86872all Class I railroads have PTC nowadays im guessing a train was derailed into the side of another already passing

[@georgeoakley934]

I read the article on Newsbreak about this derailment and where it happened along the Lehigh river.Gonna be awhile before that mess is cleaned up.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Yep it's a mess

[@georgeoakley934]

@@RailfanLandon8271Are you going to give updates on this derailment?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

@@georgeoakley934 Gonna go back tomorrow and give an update

[@terryatpi]

That must have been a real thrill. Glad everything basically stayed out of the river. Hope you get back to film them plucking those engines. Thanks. Cool video

[@RailfanLandon8271]

I missed them. I believe I was at a family members house

[@tylersebring8045]

I was at home when this happened I had a stationary scanner for the railroad radio frequency and EMS and I was up around 6 or so and had it on and I remember hearing the crew calling to dispatch to inform what has happened and I quickly had my portable scanner and listen to EMS to respond

[@BeeLineEast]

Well i usually try to capture 19g at Hummelstown Pa. I was wondering why i didn't hear anything about it coming west today. Now i know why. Thanks for the info and the video.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Your welcome

[@conraillock666]

Sounds like ns 268 rearened 24x and 19g hit the pile and derailed

[@toddmusser6537]

This is gonna get complicated - wasn’t positive train control (PTC) gonna prevent this?

[@conraillock666]

​@@toddmusser6537 Don't know what the cause is yet gonna have to wait until ntsb releases their findings

[@danyoung2755]

Thank you for your work in posting this video. What a mess!

[@bigB6flyer]

Are the headlights still on from that Gevo? Eerie

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Yes

[@lorieyanoshik4823]

Sure looks that way!

[@christopherbentley5216]

Don't the locomotives have the advice warning system, so if a train runs a red light,the brakes automatically kick in.,?

[@allenshearer]

You need to work on leaving the captions up long enough so people can read them.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

It wasn't supposed to come out like that the editing software wouldn't let me adjust it

[@wes5150.]

What signal aspect were they running on ?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

No clue

[@kennethfuller8347]

At the rate they're going, NS will be filing for chapter 13 protection from costs incurred from derailments, paying for clean ups, insurance claims, environmental damage, etc. I know derailments are going to happen, it's the laws of physics. But it's like a weekly occurrence with NS .. and I'm not talking just a couple cars on the ground, they're major derailments. Thankfully no one was seriously injured. I hope to see some coverage of the clean up. Thanks for sharing this, Landon.

[@megatrains]

Great footage buddy and EPIC coverage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Thanks

[@bobwhitebread1887]

Can you please do some more videos of them cleaning the derailment up?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Just went back today and that will be out tonight

[@kevinsalsbury2118]

Any idea how they are rerouting traffic? This is a major line.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Not really all I know is that 29G took the CSX Trenton sub

[@kevinsalsbury2118]

​@@RailfanLandon8271I was wondering if the Trenton cutoff would be used. Thank you Landon.

[@megatrains]

The Lehigh Line in Middlesex County was dead today. 2 CSX trains in 7 hours. No NS at all. Sunday mornings are usually super busy

[@kevinsalsbury2118]

​@@megatrainssame through Emmaus PA all weekend and Monday morning. Usually non stop, now maybe 6 a day. All west bound.

[@megatrains]

@@kevinsalsbury2118 I think most of the trains that pass through there I see as well! Stay safe out there buddy!

[@chrisst8922]

Ladies and gentlemen. Our fugitive's been on the run for 90 minutes. Average foot speed over uneven ground - barring injury, is approximately 4 miles an hour, giving us a radius of 6 miles. I want a hard-target search of any residence, gas-station, farmhouse, hen house, dog house and outhouse in that area. Check points go up at 15 miles.

[@mitaylor19631]

Who is doing the removal and cleanup????

[@RailfanLandon8271]

RJ Corman most likely

[@rearspeaker6364]

that is some good batteries on the lead loco!!

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Sure is

[@nathangaming.8112]

That looks bad. Hopefully the river was safe and is good right now!

[@thomasconley3429]

Norfolk Southern is not a good corporate neighbor. They had a small derailment in the evening along the canal where I live dumping coal in the canal and tried to get the cars back on the track before anyone found out about it.

[@junqueboi387]

before anyone found out about it? Oh please.

[@thomasconley3429]

@@junqueboi387 Other than the fact you no nothing about the situation, a friend working at the newspaper was called and no one in the newsroom had a clue.

[@tincup3773]

R. J Corman to the rescue.

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Yep

[@jeremycox571]

Seems like Norfolk Southern haven a lot of derailments lately , I know other have them to but these guys are leading in accidents

[@JimBaldwin-x3t]

Three trains were involved. One train rear ended the other, then another train on the adjoining track hit debris from the first accident and derailed.

[@jamessimms415]

Glad the crews are ok, but what abt. the Shareholders?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

They probably crapping their pants

[@HuntOfficial1776]

NS is about to go bankrupt

[@milepost4846]

Ancora is going bananas. Ready to get Jamie Boychuk, the UPS guy and the new board to come save the day while really slashing trains, jobs, track and tweeking PSR leaving it ready for sale🙄

[@NsEMDandGEPRODUCTIONS]

How far in on the trail is that😊

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Go to the DL trail Nagys Landing trail head and it's right there

[@NsEMDandGEPRODUCTIONS]

Like when you get to the parking spot

[@RailfanLandon8271]

@@NsEMDandGEPRODUCTIONS Yes

[@NsEMDandGEPRODUCTIONS]

Ok

[@nelsonbergman7706]

Any injuries? Any hazardous fluids leaking?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

No and No

[@lorieyanoshik4823]

What do the placards on the black tanker cars say?

[@HuntOfficial1776]

The tankers have no leaks and the plastic pellets that leaked are also no hazardous. A “small” amount of diesel fuel however was spilled into the river and I suspect some lawsuits and a bankruptcy coming.

[@whiteknightcat]

All that was answered in the video.

[@SKFarm666]

@@lorieyanoshik48231170 ethanol is what I made out on the one I could see w/ binoculars yesterday

[@dozermand6ify]

Where are the damaged units after hitting 24x

[@RailfanLandon8271]

The head end was fine and it's 2 miles east

[@rbmnfoamer]

This was crazy! Especially that 3 trains derailed.

[@blackzack304]

Derailments becoming more common as time goes by is a problem. They should clearly have progressed from Years ago.

[@kayjoe7237]

So the DPU's derailed ?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

No DPU derailed

[@johnchambers8528]

I thought the new mandatory PTC was supposed to stop this type of accident. If it did not work the industry wasted money for all that system cost. This is a main line that handles hazaderous cargo so it should have been working.

[@ERIELACKU34CH]

They were running at restricted speed.PTC prevents us from running a stop signal, it wont prevent us from hitting another train. And yes it was a total waste of money.

[@atticterminalcomplexmodelr3186]

Do they use signals in the states, or was red the new green.......

[@RailfanLandon8271]

They have signals not sure exactly what the aspect of the sig al was I was sleeping lol

[@bruceweidner2571]

This is what happens when they have all the tracks tore up and they can't run trains around the affected area you know if they still have the tracks on the other side of the river take a detour everybody across the tracks and then across the bridge but no they tear all the tracks out because they don't want to maintain them most likely to open no train traffic going through Allentown for about 3 days

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Yep Reactivate the CNJ

[@richardbause2453]

When you do your editing, leave your play by play up longer and in darker/Bolder print so we can read it. You cut yourself off too soon and white lettering on that water 💧 just doesn't work.

[@peterkneissl3358]

Wow ptc really works

[@JosephMusgrove]

Was this a dark area? (Non-signaled)

[@RailfanLandon8271]

No block signals and dispatch set signals

[@michaelwhitfield9922]

Wow way to do Dispatcher ppd it's call how well ptc is working

[@horatiohooligan1706]

Remember when they said pipelines were bad for the environment? All that kickback money from Warren Buffett will make a politician say anything.

[@whiteknightcat]

Isn't 24X a Georgia manifest?

[@RailfanLandon8271]

Atlanta to Croxton intermodal

[@dozermand6ify]

Your beginning video is the hind end if 268

[@josephbrewer5523]

NS is a bunch of bums. What ever they are doing - it's the wrong way.

[@frankiec-nd5cy]

well first to every railfan the Federal railroad administration put out a bulletin to erery railroad about PTC issues and corrective actions to take until the software maker can fix some issues with ptc most likely ptc was the working at time of this derailment or ptc was cut out by the first train to derail.

[@sptraxide]

Subtitles didn't stay up long enough to read. 👎

[@marshaldeadwood7359]

so there was a derailment how are they rerouting these trains

[@RailfanLandon8271]

On the CSX Trenton sub

[@whiteknightcat]

He specifically stated that in the video text.

[@DarrenNorthboogywoogy]

all your pictures are blurry because you have trees and branches in the foreground.....

[@lucmarchand617]

Look like nobody learn again from pass with ns.the people are going get voice speak out all details trains non stop.we have same problems cross border in canada nothing is done until next palestine derails with toxic stuff.😮

[@CampSwampy18]

Just more environmental damage brought to you by the ""Thoroughbred." Nobody can put trains on the ground like this outfit.

[@rogeriomonteiro760]

Just another stupid derailment. Nothing new. The maintenance of the rolling stock and the tracks will ensure that we will see many more. So I just wonder why in Europe this is quite rare.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

How many derailments are there during one year in the US? How many per 1000 miles of train traffic? It looks like a surpricingly high number. Rails bent like worms.... Lots of force there. Okey. Sweden hade a derailment on the northern iron ore line in december 2023, damaging 10 miles of tracks. Freezing temperatures, -40 Celsius, delayed the repair to 65 days. Running trains for a week, they derailed again, not far away..... Before that they have been running trains for years without mishaps.