The Day After the Altoona Derailment PART 1 of 2 by Super Trains

[@biz_markie9189]

And here we are in 2016 already and it still feels like that just happened. I remember passing by and seeing it and all the photographers. Glad to her no one got hurt.

[@biz_markie9189]

hear*

[@biz_markie9189]

At 5:52, That's actually a pretty shot of footage they took. I love how the train lights are shining in the camera like that. It looks really pretty.

[@theflyinglimo6847]

Biz_Markie91 you’re right

[@allenmurray7893]

It's amazing how close they get without wrecking or even touching each other in passing.

[@benniepierce6283]

very good video and excellent photography

[@60trainhunter]

At 3:26 NS 9672 D9-44CW has a nice K5lla Horn! Rare for a dash 9!

[@owenthetrainman7219]

60trainhunter That’s cool.

[@TheDaf95xf]

Another fabulous quality video 😃 Back home in the U.K 🇬🇧 It'd take weeks too get trains running again lol 😂

[@abywater]

But we don't have incidents lke this one!

[@jovetj]

@abywater Sure you do.

[@FrehleyFan3988]

I almost forgot about this. Wonder if some bits are still lying around there

[@Robert08010]

You know what they say: "The road to Altoona is paved with good inventions." At least, I think that's what they say.

[@BrooklynPerson30000]

haha

[@aicirpb]

...🤨

[@Railman690]

I can tell you what happened. A Southern engineer developed an interlocking for a mountain.

[@richkeeshan9757]

Now is this the derailment at Horseshoe Curve or a different one?

[@SuperTrains]

This was in Altoona 2014. We filmed a couple videos of one of the 2019 Horseshoe Curve Derailments: Cleanup kzbin.info/www/bejne/h16tkp-FmLSng6c Railfanning kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKi8qZSeec6ZbNU Drone kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqnPo3t_dsxprZI MOW Equipment kzbin.info/www/bejne/raOZoqlua9mBnqs

[@robison87]

Can't believe that even happened and more surprised no one was hurt.

[@charlesdell2864]

At 0:35 there's a lot of workers standing around and not much getting done.

[@davecasey4341]

That's what I was thinking. One guy doing some actual work and ten guys standing there watching him. No wonder companies are losing money.

[@tommyhunter1817]

Union

[@charlottewhyte9804]

typical it called work believe it or not

[@daveed1797]

@2:02 1 working 14 standing and throughout the video. one would think they would be a little more concerned about a train derailment

[@ListlessSpectre]

No shit! I used to walk over this bridge to get back home on Broadway Ave

[@XANApwns]

What’s with the rapid short blasts of the horn? I’ve never heard of what that means

[@ThePapabear1017]

I think it's to really really really let the clean up crew know that he is coming through.

[@bobsnyder3309]

Seems to be quite a few NS wreck videos on youtube

[@SuperTrains]

We have a playlist of all the videos we have filmed related to train derailments if you are interested: kzbin.info/aero/PLboNVRe-MY82T9GRDm3rAlsXQQmt9Gj8I

[@albertomadeirajr7824]

Nice zoom shot. What kind of camera were you using?

[@sillyone52062]

Is that the Horseshoe Curve?

[@tom-and-mom]

i wonder which train had the cn's in trail lol!

[@user-marco-S]

At 0:09 there are 2 signals above each other, why is that?

[@SuperTrains]

+Marco S Train signals tell the engineer what speed to travel at. Having more lights and colors allows for more combinations possible. Most railroads in America follow The Northeast Operating Rules Advisory Committee (NORAC). Here is a link to a website that shows NORAC Signal Aspects: rail.pgengler.net/signals/fixed_norac.html

[@user-marco-S]

+Super Trains Thank you, but in the video there are 2 3-coloured lights above each other, not mentioned in the link (or do i miss something?). They can both show green at the same time?The American system is much different compared to the Dutch system.

[@SuperTrains]

+Marco S Even though the signals on the chart don’t look exactly the same as the ones in the video, they still follow the NORAC rules. You have to read the signal as “color” over “color” and compare it to the chart. The top signal can display green yellow and red and the bottom signal also can display green yellow and red but they don’t necessarily perform every combination. For example, theoretically these signals are capable of displaying green over green; however, green over green is not used by these signals. To Show “Clear” these signals display green over red NORAC Rule 281 “Proceed not exceeding Normal Speed.” In the video the signals show for each track red over red, which is NORAC Rule 292 “Stop Signal” which tells the engineer STOP and do not proceed. There wasn’t much standardization years ago so many railroads companies had very different looking signals from one another which are still in use today, which means that chart can be a little confusing. Here is another chart that is more simplified: mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/railway/threearm.htm I hope this makes sense!

[@user-marco-S]

+Super Trains Thank you, it is now a little more clear but still complicated. The Dutch system very different. Here they use only 1 3-coloured signal.

[@acts2211]

I believe the top red means red on the main line in the red below means red on a siding , there is a switch just a little further down the track. To answer your question you would never see a green over green

[@davidhead5943]

I hope no one was killed 😢 here !

[@johngrimm588]

What caused the derailment?

[@SuperTrains]

"Derailment result of mismanaging slack" www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/602777.html "Because the one over the weekend did not have any fatalities, involve passenger trains or cause evacuations, a full investigation will not be done." www.wearecentralpa.com/news/full-investigation-not-needed-on-train-derailment

[@jamesshanks2614]

In other words the engineer admitted he could have done a better job and he was at fault. Only reason for no investigation is when the party involved admits he made a bad decision. Happens. First night after the railroad replaced all the type 22 switch stands for manual only in the yard I worked at i ran through one and felt like a jerk. The only reason they did that was somebody in headquarters did a survey and felt they could prevent yard derailments by replacing the type 22 switch stands. Biggest mistake Conrail ever made related to yard operations Within a week 9 switch stands had been run through where if the left the 22's in service these problems wouldn't have happened. We hadn't had a derailment with a 22 switch stand in over 8 years in our yard. Just creates a lot of work unnecessarily. And the railroad spent a lot of money on track that could have been spent replacing ties and tamping instead of screwing around with switch stands to make some headquarters puke look good to his boss. And the night Trainmaster John asked me why I ran through it? I just looked at him and asked him why were the 22's replaced? They worked and we didn't have any problem with them? So why create problems where none were? He just looked at me and finally said " some headquarters puke wanted to look important to his boss, I spent three weeks trying to get the to lift the order as your right it's created lots of trouble until everyone gets used to the fact that the 22's are gone. And did you look at the bulletin orders? Yes I did and according to the bulletin orders they weren't supposed to start replacing the 22's until next Monday, this happened on a Friday night a few days before the work was supposed to start replacing the switch stands. The yard and road crews also were unhappy as it meant more work for them. Water under the bridge now as that was back in the 80's.

[@TentativeDan]

James Shanks seems to be more and more of that these days in professions like these. Bad ideas being implemented and used because some big wig wrote it up good or somehow made themselves look good in front of another big wig.

[@ivanreis1538]

John Grimm -. Not

[@reelfishinhere8866]

@@SuperTrains super trains super cool super sweet

[@pressureworks]

2:03 Two Men Working, Two Men Leave. All the rest Skiving off.

[@frankmosch877]

I seen pretty mangled auto carrier cars with cars inside!!! This one,s going to cost a lot not to mention the railroad equipment etc etc what a shame hopefully no one got hurt😐😐😶☹️🙁🤔🤔🤔...FWM...

[@ijakis1891]

6:30 wow!!!!

[@richardhancock2297]

What did happen

[@LeonAllanDavis]

Al Tuna...wasn't that the guy driving the train?

[@reelfishinhere8866]

WTF lol

[@canismajoris738]

What happened?

[@robison87]

Train derailment.

[@dukctape]

Bad switch. Same one caused another, much less severe derailment about a year later. Then subsequently rebuilt the entire turnout and there's been smooth running since - Altoona native

[@hp2084]

I find broad gauge better than standard gauge against derailments.

[@tonyburzio4107]

American railroads have always been 5' gauge, it just depends on where you measure the gauge. The British started with plateways, where flangeless wheels rolled on angle iron, the gauge being 5' to the *outside* of the track. When they started using flanged wheels, they kept the gauge bars, and the standard rail was 2" wide, 5' - 2" - 2" = 4'8", the standard gauge. All heck broke out when the Pennsylvania cast (!) rail wider than 2", with the North keeping the 4'8" gauge and the South moving to 5' gauge. The Civil War chose the standard, although Lincoln (a railroad lawyer) chose 5' gauge for the Union Pacific. He was overruled.

[@daveed1797]

@2:02 WOW!! 1 guy working, 14 guys standing around bullsh*tting

[@videobruceb8879]

Since you have no clue what was going on at that time your Dictator like fact-less comment is without merit.

[@daveed1797]

@@videobruceb8879 true story. Im actually a midget with peg legs shaped like penis's with rhinestones imbeaded in The tips

[@Kudlaty771]

welcome to Altoona...

[@benkerry2006]

They did the movie unstoppable their

[@pimpassjakegames2791]

i think i heard someone say 'BRING IT ON MOTHER FUCKER' at 1:10

[@jackiefrompoznan]

B

[@jeannedimyer9593]

Horshue curve

[@brockkrenke791]

Oof

[@eileenwysocki8994]

Post on you tube and twiter ; google ; to Marcus s from trainlady Eileen Maria Wysocki ; those signals are for trains only. ; if you ; re walking you see them you ; re gonna get told to get the hell off. , or jail tell ; why you. ;re where you. ;re not supose to be okay ; please stay off stay alive ; thank you Eileen Maria Wysocki. 15238

[@rickg5696]

just think of all those big shots sitting on their asses and they're fine big ass offices keep everything safe and spend some money saves lives

[@tonyburzio4107]

Imagine all the incompetent track workers who screw up their work, costing the company millions in lost time and lives.