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It's common knowledge that the Imperial Army is absolutely massive, but just how massive was it really?
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[@majorkill]

Best argument for why GW needs to review how it deals with numbers - Space Marines make up (approx) only 0.0000002% of the Imperiums army.... To join the top 0.0000002% in lordship go here : establishedtitles.com/MKILL Or to see the Cosplay raw shots go here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

[@utubrGaming]

The general rule I go with is "Games Workshop can't handle numbers... except profit margins."

[@martineunzia2481]

Wait does that mean I can establish a country with my lordship and be called lord

[@the1tigglet]

You like cock and ball torture huh? Mine if I come over? I have great experience in that field! 🙃😈

[@Sollapoke]

I think if there were 20 legions again each with 200,000 astartes and then only used space marines for the role they do best, shock troops. Then the numbers might make a bit more sense. Have marines attack and not protect, use shock assault tactics and not attrition or siege. Then give them pre-horus heresy numbers and it might start to actually work out

[@leadingauctions8440]

We NEED an Eldar Numbers video, since lately since the Great Rift it seems like they changed the Eldar Craftworld from Continent sized ships and populations to a few thousands. It makes no sense how much they have been nerfed fluff-wise as a power.

[@Kemot300]

It's so BIG that during the length of this video hundreds of thousands died and a similar amount was recruited into the army

[@muzanjackson8827]

only hundreds of thousands? Are you insane? The great rift is open, and it is said worlds come in and out of the imperium too fast to know.

[@camostrike4395]

That’s what I love about the astra militarum

[@justinweber4977]

So, a slow fifteen minutes for the Imperium

[@KaiserAfini]

Must have been a slow day.

[@grumpymonk2460]

That’s some scary perspective ngl. Now that’s some grim dark

[@smokey5495]

Majorkill, count how many loving father figures the Primarchs actually have

[@kompatybilijny9348]

Your mother

[@TheDawnTreader1]

don't. that's derivative of like 8 videos already

[@sawyeratkinson]

4

[@62sy]

1, rowboat

[@kellerblair2952]

I mean what about their adoptive parents.

[@jeanpaulantoine1206]

Should do a breakdown on the fleets, probably the most op thing of 40k. How many franchises call 5km ships basic cruisers, and even the most powerful weapons (like that cannon that vaporized the gargant in helsreach) are just scaled down versions of basic naval weaponry.

[@robertnelson9599]

Also their fighters are 150 meters long.

[@human6310]

And those are considered crude replications of their Dark Age of technology counterparts

[@im2randomghgh]

Cruisers are capital ships, nothing basic about them! And the Ordinatus Armageddon was a Nova Cannon - the most powerful ships mounted weapon in the imperium, not scaled down.

[@big_tymerro]

Very simple answer: Forerunners from Halo. Their basic stuff makes dark age of technology look like sticks and stones.

[@dastardlyokami9682]

Forerunners are kinda broken. So is the flood they would wreck in 40k.

[@casketbase7750]

Canonically, Holy Terra’s civilian population is one quadrillion. More than twice the number of soldiers Majorkill came up with here. And that’s just one planet. Those 404 trillion soldiers are busy protecting a LOT of people.

[@im2randomghgh]

Terra's population has been suuuper inconsistent in the lore, though quadrillion makes sense. The Carrion Throne called the population "quadrillions", Space Hulk: Deathwing called in "200 billion" and the old lore had it at "100 trillion". Leave it to 40k to have super inconsistent lore!

[@ranbojd1070]

where is that mentioned? i thought the number was 100 trillion

[@woaddragon]

Well you have that 500 trillion is pretty.much low-ball estimate, in addition, world is have.been known to either mass conscript, or in Terra case in war if the beast, surge their numbers by patriotic zeal. This doesn't even include crusader forces.

[@nohddd8574]

"protecting"

[@RK-cj4oc]

Bruh what? Thats such a dumb number even for 40K

[@spooky7439]

Covering ahzek ahriman would be cool from: A thousand sons fan

[@ListyLobster]

he did in some videos

[@awesommate942]

O no not again

[@sneakybeak4032]

Yeah Ahriman has had some videos already

[@Camouflage2770]

Agree 100%

[@homelessswede9675]

Shut up

[@benjaminwhite3292]

The only war I will actually give GW is 18,000,000 dead at Vraks. Fighting an siege war for almost 2 decade war with WW1 level casualties over an area the size of Northumbria actually seems to fit

[@Till873]

i think it s still way too low. I would ass 2 more zeroes

[@enzoperennes563]

@@Till873 two zero is way too much a trench can only fit that many krieger

[@yawarapuyurak3271]

my issue would be the corpses. At some point, mountains are made out of them

[@stevensanders6696]

@@yawarapuyurak3271 how exactly do you think corpse starch is made?

[@shzarmai]

@@yawarapuyurak3271 Xianxia Novel battles be like ''mountains of corpses and rivers of blood'' plus hills of bones or something like that...

[@nobleman9393]

What changes did Guilliman have done to the Codex Astartes?

[@robertnelson9599]

Remove the size limit of scout companies.

[@zeackplayz6377]

He wrote: y'all make me suidlcidal

[@shadowdragon349]

threw that shit in the trash, even he saw how much damage it did for the imperium in the long run

[@arjandosanj6131]

It's all drafts as the momment ,nothing released to the Imperium

[@V.B.Squire]

All 4 comments hidden?

[@Channel-23s]

As you’ve said before shit they really need to make the numbers bigger some conflicts are smaller then WW2 combined deaths

[@samswann3727]

Its mental, I read Krieg recently, and whilst it isn't a bad book, the numbers make no sense. It talks about 2-3000 guardsmen laying siege to a hive city infested with orks. Current modern estimates are that to take a large village/small town, even if lightly defended would take 1000 soldiers due to how complex an environment it. Hive cities are meant to be colossal, spanning many miles both up and long. every time I read a number of guardsmen I added 2 0's to the end for my own headcannon lol.

[@PoorManatee6197]

I didnt mind numbers in 40k until I realized the current population on earth is 7 billion, suddenly guardsman regiments, space marine legions during the horus heresy and specially space marine chapters looked stupidly small, like how are 1000 space marines supposed to deal with a planet full of orks, or necrons or whatever?

[@TheSonOfDumb]

@@PoorManatee6197 Surgical strikes on strategically critical targets to disrupt the enemy followed up with a prolonged purging period? Space Marines can operate for a very long period of time without rest and they are very good at killing things. I can see them whittling down a planet full of Orks eventually but Necrons are probably too tough for a purely SM force to deal with alone.

[@PoorManatee6197]

@@TheSonOfDumb we are still talking about 1000 marines vs 7 billion orks, each marine would have to kill 7 million orks with no loses, and im being nice by putting the whole chapter, it would usually be like 3 companies working togeter.

[@leighz1962]

1000 space marines has millions supporting it. They also typically reinforce millions of deployed guardsmen. Likely doing strategic first strike to disorganize enemies or defeat their leadership. Not too big of a stretch to throw them at millions × chapter's 1k.

[@fluffly3606]

@Majorkill, I used similar numbers to yours to calculate that the Traitor Legions at the Siege of Terra outnumbered the defenders by only 1.5 to 1 not including daemons. The prevailing wisdom among at least armchair generals is that in modern Earth warfare you need a 3 to 1 advantage in numbers to reliably overcome a fortified position. It's no wonder they failed to crack the Palace.

[@ChristophelusPulps]

I'd say the vast majority of Imperial Guard regiments are deployed to real warzones, but only the most prestigious are deployed beyond a sector or so away from their home worlds.

[@mcarrowtime7095]

The codex states that regiments are generally drawn because of conflicts within the sector, and anyone who survives gets sent off to other wars as-needed

[@demonkingofsalvation7519]

i always expected the custodes to constantly increasing more than 10000 even with many dying

[@alpharius8512]

Custodians are akin to Primarchs, it takes significant knowledge, skill, and resources to make them, and a fuck ton of time. While it hasnt been stated, it would seem even the Emperor had trouble making them, and thats why there are only 10k by the time of the heresy. If Emps couldve shat out millions of them he would have. and now hes incapable of.making them, so the difficulty just went even higher now

[@arturzathas499]

they are based on the persian army of the undead. sorry mate but 10k is the max

[@robdeskrd]

The Custodes are not an army they are the body guard of 1 man. There is also a lore issue as it is stated each Custodes was "hand crafted by the emperor" but the emperor has been stuck on the throne so who has been making them for the last 10,000 years?

[@yourairconditioner7474]

@@robdeskrd From what I've heard there's labs in the palace that can make them in very limited quantities, but in all likelihood, it's limited to maybe one every year per lab, so they're mostly busy cycling out retiring custodes.

[@robdeskrd]

@@yourairconditioner7474 Wouldn't it be rad to get the Custodes treatment minus loyalty conditioning in real life?

[@casbot71]

If the Imperium upgraded the basic equipment of the average Guardsman, it would have a profound increase in the power of Humanities overall military force, just due to the sheer number of Soldiers. Belisarius Cawl should look into that, now that he's succeeded with the Primaris project.

[@jvbutalid8316]

not worth it, waste of time, and guilliman prolly cannot impose the radical rearmament to all the guardsmen

[@ellis7622]

Majorkill’s great grandfather must’ve been a veteran of the great emu war. Much respect to your pappy bro, those feathered devils are no joke.

[@leighz1962]

His grandpa survived the Drop Bear Site Massacre

[@kennym249]

Welp, i'm curious about the amount of abhumans and titans of the imperium Also, nice video and efforts

[@MrFallenone]

Well there would not likely be that many Titans since very few are made anymore if any and most of them fell during the Horus Heresy.

[@kennym249]

@@MrFallenone don't know what to think exacly about your answer, bc gw screw with lore and proportion. But yeah, should be a small bot as you said

[@2SSSR2]

After seeing this number I just remember that there are people out there who argued that US alone could beat the Imperium's invasion of our world. They would drown us in Guardsmen long before Space Marines arrive.

[@ILikeDoom]

Those same people tried to say that the U.S. alone could beat a Doom hell invasion. Mad props to our services, but that's physically impossible. There are more demons in hell than there are bullets on earth. And It seems it's a similar case for the Imperium.

[@nothingnobody1454]

People are delusional. We're not exactly building stc's or iron men yet so I'm pretty sure we'd be fucked. Could we even attempt to stop an exterminatus right now?

[@finn-3976]

@@nothingnobody1454 No.

[@taoisttiger4702]

If the US co operated with China we could probably beat an initial invasion. Depending on how fast we adapt their technology for a fight against the second attack would be the decisive factor. That and how much plot armor either side gets, in most of the in lore cases that the Imperium came up against technological worlds they are usually pretty naive. We could for sure lose but it would most likely be an intergration with us barganing for some level of autonomy and staying a pleasure planet with a tribute of humans that want to kill zeno scum

[@nothingnobody1454]

@@taoisttiger4702 okay except they wiped out interstellar factions of humans who had technology from humanity's peak of scientific advancement. They literally already beat us, 38,000 years of advancement beyond the tech of today. To pretend that current era earth would stand a chance is absurd.

[@jackncokeryan]

Majorkill you're doin great. Keeping 40k interesting. Keep doin the dew

[@Salted_Fysh]

Infinity big. Because whenever GW needs to they can just magic planets out of thin air to keep the imperium at the steady state of 'going-shit-but-not-quite-yet'.

[@silversurfer8818]

In Mortarion: the pale king after the Primarch used a ship as a hammering ram on the main hive city, the closest 2nd largest hive sent their troops, which comprised a few million soldiers (units).

[@AAhmou]

Which should have been a billion instead. But I guess moving a billion soldiers is not the same as keeping them entrenched in a hive city's bulwark.

[@leadingauctions8440]

We NEED an Eldar Numbers video, since lately since the Great Rift it seems like they changed the Eldar Craftworld from Continent sized ships and populations to a few thousands. It makes no sense how much they have been nerfed fluff-wise as a power.

[@juliusbossman7280]

Please do a video on the Daemons Skarbrand, N'Kari, Ku'gath, or Kairos

[@JustaPonderer]

Keep commenting

[@nicolasgodines1129]

Lemme give you a hard one; could the current setting of Battletech survive a Damocles-sized Crusade? A cool setting for you to learn about and I wanna see your theory on it.

[@58Kinglord]

I don’t see how they could survive. I know far more lore about 40k then Battletech but I just don’t see how they’d survive, mainly due to one thing. Their navy. 40K naval forces are usually setting around the 100+ gigaton range (at high ends were entering into mass scatter planets with naval guns not cyclone torpedos) Battletech navy is POOR compared to the imperiums I don’t think they even hit the gigaton range.

[@ptn-54pattontank89]

In terms of ground combat, the battletech universe would absolutely win with ease, but when it comes to naval ships, battletech gets absolutely stomped to the ground.

[@aron582railways7]

During the devastation of baal, everyone who was able bodied and over the age of 12 was enlisted in the defence of baal prime

[@SomeGuy-gc8zs]

And all of this STILL doesn't account for forces like the Frataeris Militia, the small armies belonging to Rogue Traders and regular merchants, Space Marine chapter serfs, the Adeptus Arbites, gangs, or the Inquisition. I think a video on chapter serfs would be neat for short-form content, but for a longer video I think it would be really cool to cover life aboard a voidship; as you mentioned, some of these spaceboats have populations in the millions, and some people are born, live their whole lives, and die without ever venturing beyond the ship.

[@rahadityap2375]

"Millions" Only accounted for official voidsmen,crewman or basically official enlisted imperial Navy personnel or officer in the gigantic ship... It's still not counted of possibly Billions of labour,servitor or possibly even civilians population that they don't give a fuck or doesn't have fucking idea that they actually through out the time or many generation they lived in ship... On battleship it's also stated that there is basically giant manufacturom factory for necessary people inside the ship and also literal Hive City Inside Spaceship for Bilion Normal citizen that they entirely work for maintained ship,manufacturing production for entire ship complement people that the Complement is size of Literal 2020 Earth Population

[@ChillAssTurtle]

I cant stand when the writers are off by several zeroes.. if 1 hive has 10s of billions ppl in it then im not impressed when a crusade force has like 3million guard.. there would be billions for sure

[@albertdrevdal4233]

100 billion people makes little sense on a planet much less a city, so the hive Lore is pretty wack too

[@CM-os7ie]

Older lore does usually chalk up a very specific pre-rift number of about 30,000 hive worlds in the Imperium

[@rahadityap2375]

​@@CM-os7ie New lore basically stated 85% Imperium planet have atleast one or two Hive Cities that each contain range from Bilion and Trillion in single hive city

[@Milo_Vail_Snezhevic18]

Can you make a Video of which traitor Primarch will return loyal again since we got a story of perfect clone of Fulgrim so there is a chance so i want know who would it be?

[@aethertech]

None of them will turn loyal again.

[@martinbaranyi2129]

The perfect clone of Fulgrim is proof the traitor Primarchs can't come back, unfortunately. Primarchs aren't just flesh and bones, their souls are unique powerhouses and carried the virtues of each Son: Vulkan's invincibility as an eternal, Horus's inhuman charisma and strenght, Corax's invisibility, and so on. The reason why Fabius Bile managed to create Fulgrim's perfect clone is because he used his Primarch soul, floating in the warp after his ascension into Daemon Prince. The corruption entirely stripped them of their immortal souls, replaced with pure warp energy, they aren't coming back.

[@blingsing5383]

@@martinbaranyi2129 ​ I don’t know if you read what you wrote but that is exactly what proves that it can be done their “souls” are separate from bodies so if someone can make a perfect vessel for the body then the soul can return That’s why the Big E completely deletes Horus and any trace of him because if any shred of his soul remained then in theory it could return For the record I don’t see them bringing them back as heroes but just because they won’t come back doesn’t mean that they are incapable of it hell the story you just used proves that they can and have😂

[@thenomad47]

@@martinbaranyi2129 If anything Clonegrim is proof that the Primarchs could be brought back much easier thsn initially thought, not that it's impossible. All you need to do is recreate the Primarchs body perfectly, and then coerce the soul back into the body. Remember, the souls were just taken out of the bodies and warp spaghetti was stuffed in, so, as you say, their souls are just freely and randomly floating around in the warp doing nothing, so, just grab the souls, stuff them in a new body, and voila, Loyalist Primarch back in action

[@macshadow1150]

@@martinbaranyi2129 I belive that some can return, like Magnus if his soul, exactly noble part was fused back

[@Robahomusic]

If only GW could count. Their numbers make no sense, as you said.

[@ls_rus4666]

I just add one or two zeros. There are probably less soldiers in Warhammer Lore than we spend money on this hobby anyways.

[@ragnarx88]

Logical Fan / Major with actuall Math : Makes sense - here is the Bill Hardliner : These are Rookie Numbers ! You gotta pump those Numbers !

[@theswarmsquad3606]

For guardsman you should also include veteran percentages from the modern world comparison since people don’t retire or get discharged

[@vaporsouls6752]

One of the few notable regiments that hail from a civilised world is actually the elysian drop troops, with them being an all-volunteer guard army

[@mrpdmasta]

Fantastic video, and consider, the orks have more people and 100% of their population fights.

[@doom1609]

Please go over the story of Gav the ogryn from the fantastic tetralogy Gav and Bob! I don’t think it’s canon but it’s still an amazing story stretched out my multiple authors. The character development is simple but extremely effective.

[@petey118]

Did forget to add in the Inquisition. Which has its own chapter of space marines aka Grey knights and death watch. Inquisitors, pykers and so on. Do have countless strike teams for there secret order. Being a secret organization, do understand would be hard to count how many there are. But is hard to not count or forget them. Due to they are strong enough to scare anyone in the whole imperium. Also take out entire space marine chapter when they are disobeyed or challenged.

[@andrewhenson8787]

The scary thing is that the number for the Guard and the Planetary Defense Forces is probably SO much higher. There’s probably going to be a lot more than a couple percent of any planet’s population. The odds are that every single fighting age person not actively helping the war effort is probably enlisted. And the Imperium is still fighting for it’s absolute life

[@kamaeq]

Biggest issue you are missing is the HUGE volume of space that stretches the Imperium thin. As for the IG, PDF forces are Conscripts and plain Infantry. Actual IG are mostly Veterans with some Infantry (FNGs) with the percentages varying a bit with losses. Biggest lore vs codex disconnect is that virtually all IG have the equivalent of built in vox casters in every squad with all the benefits.

[@kabuki_kitten7129]

the astarte and guard ratio i would actually say is quite accurate showing that the guard are good but the astartes tackle the really hard tasks and make them look shit but the guard are the ones who are actually doing the most winning

[@rh0mbus104]

I would like to see a video about how many STCs the imperium has discovered over its lifespan.

[@Prockski]

Yo Majorkill if you ever want to do large calculations using normal language you can try use Wolfram Alpha. I tend to use it when I need to quickly get a figure using just normal text language.

[@im2randomghgh]

The number crunching is suuuper questionable and not even slightly reflected by any of the lore and yet I'm here for it 😂 Edit 1: ~12T Guardsman is several orders of magnitude more than they actually have available. The Macharian crusade, noted to be the largest Imperial military effort ever undertaken since the Great Crusade (until Indomitus) had 1Bn and was a huge portion of the Imperium's overall military power. It would be a footnote if that were 1/12,000th of the imperium's might. Also, the Indomitus crusade fleets had ~20 capital ships each and there were ten of them. How many guardsmen do you think they put on each ship??? Especially seeing as they pulled back literally every bit of military force still available to the imperium, even withdrawing them from active engagements. Edit 2: As far as ship numbers, there are a few thousand sectors in the imperium. Being generous, we can use Battlefleet Cadia as an example, which had 24 capital ships, and say there are ~50,000 warships. That would still seem disingenuous though, given that the Indomitus Crusade totaled a little bit more than a thousand ships and again, was scraping the bottom of the Imperium's Barrel.

[@willmosse3684]

I think what you demonstrate here is that GW’s figures do not add up at all, rather than that Majorkill’s number crunching is not represented by any of the lore. It was all based on the lore. What you demonstrate is that different aspects of the lore give you wildly different figures for the number of men under arms.

[@rethall2308]

I feel a big pitfall regarding the SoB or Battle Bitches is thinking each Hive as ONE city. Realistically, each Hive District could house one or several independent convents, which skyrockets the number of potential bitches, PLUS bigger HQs.

[@baseupp12]

Majorkill please give us a video on Perpetuals (how many are still alive and what they are doing currently 40k setting.)

[@blackjacklover99]

NOTICE! Since you made Seth‘s video about warp entities that aren’t aligned with chaos. I’d like to propose a video idea of my own. About what remains of ‘our’ era and earlier in 40K. That’s something I’ve been interested in for a long time. PS: Please tell me if you see this comment. So I know I don’t have to keep posting this idea in the comments of every video.

[@eichler721]

Your estimate is not bad but I would say the number of Guardsmen fluctuates between 10-20 Trillion depending on the state of warfare in the Galaxy and the same with PDF forces.

[@justinweber4977]

A look at the Administratum would be kind of interesting, I think. Looking at the Bureaucracy that keeps the Imperium in something vaguely resembling "functionality" would be interesting.

[@Technoanima]

Thank you for covering this to explain why the Commissars treat IG as expendable. Because as long as families receive honor for their son or daughter being selected to serve the Imperium in the IG, they'll continue to do so. A neverending pool of the best soldiers a world has to offer.

[@gergelyszilagyi4694]

Please make a video on the Black Templars doing war with their primaris, or maybe even a video on what they generally do in the dark imperium era

[@kainschild]

I subscribed to you a while back just though I would let you know that ever time you say "good day guys and gal" I always chuckle.

[@paulmuller6069]

I always wondered what the other races in 40k thought of the emperor and the primarchs... I thought about it because (i think it was) in "Dark Imperium" one of the Eldar met Girlymann and was disgusted by a comment that Eldrad Ulthran made that the primarchs were in some aspects superior to the eldar Pls make a Video about this

[@mcarrowtime7095]

Idk if this comment came before the video was made, but it exists now

[@robertbaratheon3137]

A video about imperial void ships and their weapons would be cool

[@Patterrz]

When you leave school you think the maths homework is done forever, but then you start making 40k videos

[@EuroUser1]

Presumably, the Imperium employs in the army a much larger percentage of the population than the US does. That's because the Imperium has a more advanced technology and is absolutely focused in military matters.

[@ARC1701A]

When you realize the Death Korps of Krieg is only sending 1% of their men under arms to the Astra Militarum.

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

On the topic of military forces, the world of Geratomro (see the novel Shadowsword), a rebellious industrial world that had some 300 million citizens couldn’t raise an additional regiment of 50,000 on short notice without compromising the world’s security/output (or being destroyed for failing to meet their next obligation a few years down the line). They did, however, have a pretty well equipped militia force (complete with tanks, air defenses, and a core of pretty good soldiers).

[@shadowwalker3958]

A Nykona Sharowkyn video would do good. The way he defeated lucius is fantastic.

[@lurkingedge]

SOB numbers are also skewed by their detachments and active to "reserve" ratios. For instance a convent attached to a shrine or cathedral could be 50/50 SOB guard detachment and non militant Sororitas, while a order militant convent will be closer to 95/5 active/non-militant. Additionally, every Imperial Cult shrine worth destroying willl have a minimum SOB squad guarding it at a minimum. A while back I started trying to calculate SOB numbers starting with shrine guard detachments. I hit 150 million and gave up.

[@michaelhowell2326]

It's strange to think about the Gaurd being involved in so many campaigns across so many worlds, but there are inevitably some regiments that have never fired a shot in anger.

[@michasalamon8315]

The thing with guardsmen varies from world to world. Gaunt’s ghost were literally ex criminals, actual criminals, former PDF troopers, and even hunters, in Catachan Devils novel, thr main protagonist was an administratum clerk that got only 4 months of Training before going to his first combat action, same was in novel 15 hours that started the meme that guardsmen only last 15 hours on battlefield, not to mention Necromunda uses literal gangsters feom Spider clan who they give guns to keep order in lower levels and send them to Space. Dont get me wrong there are many highly trained elite guardmen regiment. But saying that all guardsmen are the best of the best is a little bit of a streach. And that’s not even mentioning penal legions.

[@mcarrowtime7095]

Penal legions are fodder used to complete high attrition tasks, and the criminals and gangsters tend to be the most violent and successful, as the IG will execute a planetary governor if they believe the supplied regiment to be of too low quality.

[@robdeskrd]

Skitari are FUCKING SCARY! 100% loyal, will follow any order, augment legs, augment eyes, radio active weapons, decent armor and, all being constantly feeding information to the command ships and receiving computer aided battle plans. Also, the Mechanicus invented Titans- they are VERY war-like!

[@Channel-23s]

Shit the amount of troops available are akin to having a shit ton of pennies in a bag and using it as a weapon or giant projectiles vs a group of crackheads and the supersoliders are equivalent to Gold bricks in Socks with metal spikes on them

[@venkelos6996]

And then we imagine that the Orks, and the Tyranids, probably number similarly, if not more, because they definitely have a smaller percentage of noncombatants. Ick!

[@evanlight2550]

I think I heard that Orks outnumber humanity about 1000 to 1. And not just guardsmen but ALL of humanity!

[@lemonaded2481]

@@evanlight2550 add in the fact that 100% of the Ork population fights, there are no civilian Ork. It's totally believable when it's said the Orks could take over the galaxy if they would just stop killing each other.

[@evanlight2550]

@@lemonaded2481 and that’s why they can’t take over the galaxy, because 90% of the time they’re just killing themselves because their only instinct is to FIGHT. So most of the time they can’t invade worlds because they’re too busy killing one another

[@BubbaFranks-TheSwordDragon]

Wow! Majorkill knows about the Emu war! Very cool. It is super weird when I have to explain the Emu war to an Aussie

[@alpineassault]

One thing's for sure, Guilliman could probably organize a sick party.

[@KaiserAfini]

The saddest part of living in the Imperium is the rate of Toasters Per Capita. Imagining all those subjects of the Omnissiah who will never know the greatest of his boons, it is enough to activate one's depression subroutines.

[@Pickle6432]

The wildest thing ever is that the estimated number of military personel in the Imperium, is still lower than our estimated population of Terra💀💀💀💀

[@mightyphantom2176]

I read the comments and instantly know that there is always something to talk about in 40k with how many video ideas this man gets

[@all_mighty_nurgle]

Can you do this for chaos and the other factions really enjoy your videos keep up the good work you sexy Australian man and Rest In Peace all the people who died during the emu war

[@human6310]

Thank you. My grandfather sprained his ankle in that war.

[@Outlaw_2556]

Just got a plot of land, your kingdom grows my liege. Thanks for the anniversary idea!

[@Chrivs]

Did Guilliman not say a one point after he return that Space Marines might be a little to low like around 1000 giv or take in each Chapter. And that he wanted to make them a little bigger...? And sometimes with some of the Chapters that got Plot gear and all of that shit. Feel like they can get new Marines really really fast or just have a shit load like in back up... Or are just much bigger and dont tell anybody about it...

[@RoulicisThe]

You forgot two "little" details about space marine chapters : 1- The number of Astartes in the chapter DOESN'T include the numbers part of "Scout" units, which act as light Infantry, Infiltrators and reserves for the main combat companies. Simply put : Astartes chapters are organised in 10 companies of 100 Space marines each, but don't have a limit on the number of scout companies they can form up. Hence why chapters like "Black Templars" have more than ten times the number of regular Space Marine chapters : they have 10 companies, as standard oblige, but they have dozens of Scout companies as well which bolster their numbers quite significantly. 2- Each Space marine chapter is accompanied by "Squire legions" : humans that passed the qualification tests to become space marine candidates but couldn't undergo the transformation, for one reason or another. These humans are trained by the Astartes themselves and act as squires, assistant and auxiliaries in battle. So each astarte's chapter possess it's own personnal army of elite soldiers who handle logistics, paperwork and support them in campaign. So the imperial forces related to Astartes chapters are even larger than what you estimated

[@evanfish4505]

I love the fact that you mentioned the greatest unsung conflict of the 20th century lol

[@talonryckert6084]

I'd only say the Sisters of Silence are larger because they are present in every black ship and there is quite a few of those

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hey Majorkill. Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Thank you.

[@emmettbuttry8676]

It funny I was trying to figure out the same about star wars, how large the Empire military was, how many rebels made up the rebel alliance and if it could really had toppled the empire or if the moffs would use overwhelming military force to continue ruling even after the emperor and Vader died. Game Workshop and Star Wars both seem to lowball the military forces involved in these battles.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

If you want disney canon i can't help, but i can for legends

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

Imperial navy: 25,000 imperial 1 star destroyers, 1.5-40 million smaller warships(based off sector groups), 50+dreadnoughts(around 26 of which are executer classes), a sovereign class(continent/small moon busting laser), two eclipses(continent/small moon), over 263,000(Specter of the past) other star destroyers/similar sized ships, sun crusher(star buster, that tanked a death stat laser), 2 death stars, an extra death star prototype with a functional laser, 2 death star sized habitation spheres, a galaxy gun(snipe planets and ships from across the galaxy), metal crystal phase shifters(bypass shields to weaken hull integrity), the tarken,(planet buster), the conqueror(continent/small moon cracking super laser) and dozens of world devastators(can rip apart planets with tractor beam projectors, while tanking shots from capital ships. Can collect materials to upgrade/grow, and even create new world devastators). There was a plan to include super class star destroyers(8km) in many of the empires sectors. That is potentially 100s. There was also the assertor class(15km), bellator(7km), and mandator III(12km). Imperial army: 10s of trillions(Rebellion era campaign guide) Stormtrooper corps: 100s of millions-billions CompForce: 100s of billions(2nd edition sourcebook) Tanks/repulsorcraft: 2-9 Trillion Walkers: 10s of millions Territory: over a million, and a half full member worlds(rebellion era campaign guide,and 2nd edition source book) , and 5-70+ million colonies(Essential atlas), vessels, and protectorates. Han solo stated to Luke they would have to search six million inhabited systems, and an old republic comic stated the holonet connected six million worlds. Weapon damage: Turbolasers dish out megatons of superheated plasma, while laser cannons in the kilotons. The attack of the clones cross section states 200 gigatons a shot, and 6 megatons a shot but we treat it as an outlier. Contrary to popular belief star wars shields do protect against projectiles/high velocity attacks. A super star destroyer's shields have tanked rebel cruisers jumping out of hyperspeed, and multi megaton hits from asteroids in an asteroid field. Deflector shields can produce ray shields(Physical/High velocity projectile weapons), and particle shields(energy based weapons). Both the 2nd edition sourcebook, and cross section tell us star destroyers are capable of turning the upper crust of planets into slag which we can believe. Carnor jax states an imperial star destroyer can make stone run like water, and turn sand into glass. Going by the bombardment of caamas, it takes several star destroyers to reduce a planet's surface twice the size of earth to molten slag in under twenty four hours. The E-11 is the equivalent of a 14.5mm round with enough heat to punch through a lightly armored or unarmored opponent, and in a new hope it vaporizes steel bars. The DLT-19 was capable of taking down lightly armored vehicles. The T-21 light repeating blaster fires the plasma bolt equivalent of a 22.5-30mm bullet from a guass rifle. Mercenaries using light blaster cannons shot through 4 inches of plasteel. T-21

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

Rebel alliance Navy: 20,160 capital ships, and 105,000-2,800,000(essential guide to warfare states the rebellion had 7% of the empire's naval might at the height of the civil war)support vessels, made up of Nebulon-b frigates(300 meters), Mc80 liberty class cruisers(1200-1500 meters), Mc80 home one class cruisers(1200-1400 meters), MK I assault frigates(700 meters), MK II assault frigates(700 meters), dreadnaught class heavy cruisers(600 meters), Corellian corvettes(150 meters), DP20 frigates(120 meters), Marauder class corvettes(195 meters), YKL-37R nova courier(30 meters), various freighters, captured/stolen imperial ships including star destroyers, salvaged clone wars era ships like providence class destroyers, and lucrehulk battleships. Armed forces: 12,000,000 Overall Personnel: 100s of millions to a few billion(EGTW states 3.5% of the empire's military) Tanks/repulsor craft/walkers: 176,470+ Weapon damage: Turbolasers dish out megatons of energy, while laser cannons in the kilotons. Deflector shields can produce ray shields(Physical/High velocity projectile weapons), and particle shields(energy based weapons). The T-21 light repeating blaster fires the plasma bolt equivalent of a 22.5-30mm bullet from a gauss rifle. Mercenaries using light blaster cannons shot through 4 inches of plasteel. T-21

[@thedamnedprimarch4434]

I wonder if the imperium has a expeditionary division that investigates and explores unknown space but not just for technology like the admech but for surveying and expanding the imperium

[@HXC060592]

The numbers bumbling from GW is hilarious at times. It says the Rangdan Xenocides was the most destructive war fought during the Crusade until the Heresy and, “thousands of astartes and millions of astra military forces were sent to fight the alien menace” which had me shaking my head at GWs number skills. Like really, the second greatest conflict was on par with WW2 on little old Earth? Okay..

[@sanzharkhairov501]

We need Ahzek Ahriman video, majorkill!!!

[@kloud4035]

where tf is timmy im seriously gettin worried

[@casiusjames9117]

Man said "spittle" and his title is "Lord Majorkill." I don't think I've ever been graced by such a chad presence before in my life.

[@thebeanman99]

This man went through all this shit just for us, I’m buying a damn calendar

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

lore on codex astartes, imperial navy, every single type of squig, eldar exodites and corsairs

[@Comicsluvr]

This is why writing sci-fi books for space empires is a nightmare of logistics. An Ecumenopolis, or a world-city like Trantor from the Foundation, would be needed JUST to keep track of everything. 40k lore makes it clear that the Imperium is so bad at keeping track of things that sometimes whole units, armies, or planets fall between the cracks.

[@Cokeapothecary]

I love how you say times instead of multiply. It's endearing mate

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

So if +/- 500 Trillion is the 'estimated' number of humanity's military, then the over all population of the Imperium of Man fluctuates wildly between 17 -20 Quadrillion 💀☠💀

[@kurttempongko4587]

This really shows how much of logistics badass Guilliman is considering how large the Imperium's Armed Forces is...

[@TheAnon03]

Are SoB really super soldiers? Did they change the lore on me since I played? They're well equipped but they're not enhanced any more than a regular guardsman AFAIK.

[@jonathanathor117]

Not really. They're not biologically enhanced like astartes or custodes or Grey knights. They just have an exo suit and blind zealous faith.

[@jevvie]

No they aren't in themselves. They're humans decked out with great gear. They do have better training than the average guardsman though and given their faith in the emperor they can randomly become supped up.

[@gerardmontgomery280]

They're enhanced by their armour and have psychic superpowers. Sorry I mean miracles happen because of their faith in the Emperor. They may not be enhanced themselves but their abilities are superior to what a base line human could achieve without SoB training, indoctrination and equipment.

[@Some_Cool_Dude]

They are basically on par with tempestus scions but with better armor and weapons

[@Asraeks]

they are women

[@alexlast3141]

i'd like to see a video of you doing a video on your opinion on a realistic number of troops for different major battles

[@dakotalange2858]

Krieg be like “gotta bump up those numbers those are rookie numbers”

[@NobodyDungeons]

So, find a really ducking good soldier make a bunch of clones of him. Then pump the combat training of the original into every clone, and create a family dynamic between all of them. Then tada you have one of the coolest kickass guardsmen regiments in the imperium.

[@thatonekriegguardsmen6140]

Can you do a video covering how the other traitor legions that weren’t at the drop site massacre dealt with there loyalist elements

[@SgtNukem007]

Majorkill you should cover this but for thr Eldar since they're supposedly a dying race and all that

[@ryantune3325]

Majorkill looked into the mind of Guilliman with this one.

[@toddmware]

dear majorkill, if you wish to find out who the most badass legend of the horus heresy astartes is, there is only one way to do it. read first - brotherhood of the storm second - scars third - the path of heaven if targutai yesugei isnt your boy after that then i'll eat my hat. THE most underrated character in the horus heresy bar none. the legitimate OG. even Magnus calls him mighty and says he would had a place by his side. stormseers and weather makers all the way!!!!!!

[@musafawundu6718]

Majorkill, I mostly succeed in suspending my disbelief with regards to the number of Space Marines, but occasionally I do not. The writers are extremely stubborn not to have changed things all these years to make their numbers one hundred to a thousand times higher because it takes away from the emphasis of Space Marines bring extremely rare and that most humans would not go their entire lifetimes actually seeing one.

[@samswann3727]

I read Krieg recently, its not a bad book but the numbers are soo off-putting. Modern estimates are that to take even a moderately defended city it would take several thousand men, and if its fortified upwards of 10,000. They sent 2-3000 Guardsmen to retake a hive infested with Orks. A hive defended by walls and weapon emplacements. In ww1 the British took 60,000 casualties in the first day to try and take a town! I just pretended the numbers were in the millions range.

[@channelsofash]

Which also explains why so much of the Ork gear looks like it was looted from the humans. There are just so many humans out there looking for a fight compared to the other species the boys could pick a fight with.

[@haerbernd]

The number gets even bigger when we start to also count all the commissars, sanctioned psykers and the Tempestus Scions. Altough they are nearly nothing compared to even just the Guardsmen. So lets say its then 405 trillion (or 405*10^12).

[@im2randomghgh]

As far as the issue with how rare space marines and custodes are relative to guardsmen, the interesting thing is that the Tau don't have that issue. They have a few trillion fire warriors at most, and about 1-10% of those wear battlesuits, which are stronger than space marines. Imagine every single space marine legion engaging in one apocalyptic battle and still getting wiped by a hundred billion crisis suits! Things get weird when GW sometimes gets the numbers right, sometimes doesn't and never talks about the discrepancy.

[@xxklesx1]

They tau hasnt even a trillion inhabitants

[@im2randomghgh]

@@xxklesx1 as of the new Tau Codex, the capital planet of the Sa'cea sept alone has several trillion, and is mostly fire caste, who are exclusively warriors. It may be able to muster a trillion firewarriors for a defensive war all on its own.

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

On the Guard, there is also the fact that a lot of the gaurd regiments used Cadian tech because cadia could pump out trillions of helmets a day, and any planet that bought from them would also get Cadian Mercs and Commisars from their own commisariat colleges to train them. so quite a bit of gaurd regminets in the galaxy are also just Cadians from another planet. Most of the big name units do this. Kriegs rifles and artilery are sold all over the galaxy, as well as their other equipment. Pretty much any unit that gets its own codex mention sells equipment to other worlds simply because they are known galaxy wide and as such have a realtionship similar to america with out servant's, i mean valued allies. There is also a regiment that only wears leather jackets and switchblades

[@bunny12331]

Ide love a video dedicated to the relationship between customers and sisters of silence and how they first interacted/reacted with each other to now

[@108stitches6]

How about a count of how many souls the emperor has… eaten compared to how many were consumed during the birth of slanesh

[@rahadityap2375]

Give 10,000 per day so 1 year is 3.6 million, for 10,000 years is 3,650,000 day so total 36,500,000,000 or 36 trillion soul is eaten.... It's extremely many but yet again is 40k iif compare with even Untold population of Imperium that basically fuckton quintillion.