Are there any Morally 'Good' Factions in Warhammer 40k?

[@majorkill]

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[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Majorkill: The only people custodes kill deserve to die. Literally every loyalist Astartes Chapter who has had one astartes turn traitor: Fuck you

[@Jack-0-lantern]

Is the reason the Ynnari weren't mentioned specifically was because they're too much of a hodge-podge of different Elders factions to measure properly?

[@dominykasseibutis6297]

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[@temwananinkana3419]

This is another reason why warhammer 40k is best. It could have been so easy for humanity to be the pure good guys. But thats boring. In war, especially conflicts regarding life and death, its very difficult to have clear good guys

[@temwananinkana3419]

Majorkill, i need your email

[@Fmurffx33]

I've noticed a trend with Warhammer. When there is a good character or faction, they're thrown into the most horrible situations over and over again. Which, by the laws of writing, makes them loved if they triumph and grimdark if they fail. Win win for GW.

[@jackgriffi7826]

Lamenters, and Imperial Guard, pretty much?

[@constentthonking936]

@new account ∙ 7.7B views ∙ 3 seconds ago　　　　　　　　　. Are you going to elaborate?

[@AevasHouse]

Throwing potential good guys into a horrible hopeless situation is in itself grimdark

[@Voltboy1449]

For those we cherish we die in glory

[@rexlumontad5644]

@@jackgriffi7826 Yes, poor fellas

[@myself2noone]

Fun fact there are a kind of ant that keeps what we would call domesticated aphids, and farms a kind of fungus. So yeah even for bugs the tyranids are bad.

[@stompa6424]

True but does that mean all other ants are evil? Tyranids are just the embodiment of evolution and in a wartorn galaxy they adapt to be the best at that. I think the hivemind is ruthless because something is hot on their heels and absorbing all biomass on a planet via Animal Crossing it would just take too long.

[@coco-jc1zm]

There's even ants that have heads that can block off entrances like the imperial fist!

[@mikd157]

@@coco-jc1zm blockhead…

[@robinedbom7649]

How do we know the Tyranids do not do this in their home galaxy? All we know about them is the experience in the milky way galaxy. They could just be invading and clearing this galaxy for them to plant something to farm afterwards. Or maybe the ight of the astronomicon is really annoying to the hive minds functions and they feel like it has to be destroyed for them to thrive. My point is we don't know enough about them to make that call lore wise, at least I don't.

[@agamer5953]

@@robinedbom7649 i think i see somewhere in a YT comment section that thet actually do shit like farming?

[@MrPedroleiria]

I also like how the Custodes are extremely educated and book smart.

[@venomstar6789]

yet for whatever of a reason they allowed a heretical order usurp the emperor teachings and book

[@chob_2916]

@@venomstar6789 Maybe because Valdor wasn't around?

[@rexlumontad5644]

@@venomstar6789 The Custodes went through a Fabulous Pillar Men phase

[@almightybogza]

@@venomstar6789 I think thats either by design as the Emperor saw the only way was to become a god or its simply a plot hole.

[@Liminal.Headspace]

@@venomstar6789 I think their non-intrusive policy towards the affairs of the Empire is what lead them to fuck up. They are kinda programed to stay in the background. The Emperor probably was not keen on having an army of gods take things into their own hands. They were and are more of a deterrent force than anything.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Isha is the only good Eldar God and she is currently imprisoned at the Garden of Nurgle where she had to endure his presence and discreetly whisper cures for mortals to make them in response to Nurgle's plagues.

[@danielfellows8034]

Hasn't she been rescued?

[@Jack-0-lantern]

Do we know enough about Ynnead to judge where he places on the morality scale?🤔 He is both new and is semi-asleep 😴

[@Pemmont107]

@@Jack-0-lantern Ynnead himself doesn't appear to be malicious or sadistic, but neither is he in any way "good". Many Eldar are seriously put off by Ynnead and his followers - they're incredibly sinister and uncomfortable to be around. Not only that, but the Ynnari don't give a shit about Dark Eldar joining their ranks, so long as they pledge themselves to their god. That in itself speaks volumes.

[@konradcurze8942]

*Cegorach doesn't seem like an asshole too. Not to kention we dont know much about the other Eldar Gods/Goddesess to judge.*

[@Jack-0-lantern]

@@danielfellows8034 Wait, What!?! When did this happen?

[@aidanthornton173]

*Roboute:* Hey. *Farsight:* Oh, hey. *Roboute:* You a genocidal xeno monster? *Farsight:* No, you a religious genocidal asshole? *Roboute:* No, wanna talk about the flaws in our peoples systems of governance? *Farsight:* Yes, wanna talk about the times we out thought our opponents on and off the battlefield? *Roboute:* Yes. **And thus did a bromance most strong blossom**

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

I like to think of this as a canon conversation and that Guilliman communicates openly with him in front of the Inquisition as a way to troll them.

[@mcnuggets2825]

And just like that a new ship set sail lol

[@kuroshm]

You leave char aznable out of this disgusting fan fiction

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

@@ProjectTaker How would Yvraine fit into this?

[@rexlumontad5644]

@@kuroshm Char Aznable: "I came to laugh at you."

[@trevormurray617]

Orks, they have the only “ good “ ending in 40k… The ending includes fighting demons in hell for eternity but hey you gotta take what you can get in 40K

[@sambasedsamurai9338]

Drukhari probably trapped some orks in a cage in the Crucibael arena and made them watch all the fighting without being capable to take part in it, profit, worst torture for orks, although they migh still enjoy it, it could be like watching super bowl with the boys.

[@maksymilians931]

Khorne loved a bunch of orks so much that he literally revived them to fight for eternity in his domaint. Essentially giving them Ork heaven

[@christiandauz3742]

He also did the same for Dark Eldar Wyches

[@ReaLibro]

@@sambasedsamurai9338 You mean the Blood Bowl? Right? 😁

[@davidrobinson9265]

@@ReaLibro nah mate look up tuska demon killa

[@InquisitorXarius]

While I can’t think of a faction, I can think of a character. That good character is Uriel Ventris, given his surprising humanity towards the unfleshed and the imperial guardsmen during his mission to destroy the Daemonculaba.

[@ezonplays2260]

Please do not say that name(Daemonculaba)it is cursed.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@ezonplays2260 it is really the worst thing ever created in fiction?

[@SuperUnunquadium]

@@comradekenobi6908 No, just 40k fans thinking their setting is the "-est" again in some aspect.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@SuperUnunquadium alright what's something more horrific than that

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

@@comradekenobi6908 uff, that is a hard one to answer, as generally, you can not start out with the worst state and say it's unchangeable, because otherwise there would be no hope and therefore no reason to have any suspense or generally any feeling other than apathy. Personally, one of the darkest storys in my eyes, was the story of "the little match girl" by Hans Christian Andersen. It is a very short story, that has no magic or anything in itself, but you immediately come to hope and Sympathyse for the girl and even though you can clearly see, how this story is going and how any hope seems futile, you want this to not be true. And when you end it, you know that the story is essentially just the fever dream of a starving, freezing little girl in winter, something that can even hit close to home today. The Daemonculaba is just very bad, because it is a really Bad cliche, that for some reason, to make someone evil, you need to make women suffer the worst fate at their hands. It just smells of bad writing, when you think about, how wh40k usually manages to avoid or side-step this.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Wait, isn’t there a Tyranid hive fleet that actually has Just colonized a part of space and only attacks to defend it? Oh how am I kidding? They’re probably trying to make a big as bio titan/ physical manifestation for the hive mind or some nonsense…

[@GodlordBazi]

Yes, hive fleet Tiamet. If I remember it correctly, the thing about them is that they terraform whole planets into psychic beacons, which actual purpose is unknown to the Imperium of Man, but considering the fact that the biggest psychic beacon in the galaxy, the Astronomican, was the main reason for the Tyranids to invade the Milkyway in the first place, their terraforming projects most likely mean nothing good. I guess they're just another phase of the whole Tyranid invasion and their task is to build a bridgehead for the phase following them.

[@JasonM69]

Ya hive fleet Tiamet is building a tower, in the newest codex it is mentioned that there are multiple towers. Not sure what gws plans with it are. I bet it's gonna be something for space marines to kill. There are also moments where Tyranids farmed orks.

[@SirOrdo]

@@GodlordBazi This is not true, Pharos beacon blowing up during Heresy is what brought the attention of Tyranids towards the Milky Way. Astronomican does not even reach the most remote parts of the Milky Way so it cannot even be seen beyond.

[@GodlordBazi]

@@SirOrdo Yes, absolutely true. The Tyranids are drawn to the Astronomican, though, now that they are here. I guess I forgot to mention quiet a bit of a chunk of what I actually wanted to write here when I realised that I'm burning my food. :

[@christopherreynolds4506]

I believe that is Tiamet. And if I recall there job in the hive mind is to make bio-mass resivors for other hive fleet to collect from as needed. Basically, they make refuling stations.

[@eichler721]

The Imperium is definitely in the middle as it has good guys like Custodes, Dante and the Blood Angels, Salamanders, and planets that don't make humans suffer constantly. But then they also have Hive cities and the terrible Inquisition as well as the Ecclesiarcy and Mechanicus.

[@jarlathquinn2628]

Lamenters as well

[@CyrodiilCome]

They're just soldiers who defend an empire that willingly throws billions of lives away because someone doesn't want to pay taxes

[@eichler721]

@@CyrodiilCome the soldiers yes but many worlds are just bad and evil by design. They are somewhat necessary to survive but still not a good thing. It's the Mechanicus, Adminastradum, Ecclesiarchy, and others that ruin it. As well as certain shit Inquisitor's

[@marys6297]

@@jarlathquinn2628 Lamenters are actually really nice guys, It's just that nobody wants to work with them because tHeY cOuLd TuRn To ChAoS

[@asexypotato2280]

Idk about the blood angels. They'll slaughter unarmed slaves and children of a chaos marine warbands when they board one of their ships during battle. As seen in the Night Lords books

[@rexlumontad5644]

2:42 TTS Celestine had personal experience when the Sisters of Battle showed their fanatical fangirling over her and TTS Sanguinor experienced their zealous anger and rage when he showed up in her place.

[@HalIOfFamer]

Man I like how tts is just an alternative (the only true, fuck GW) universe

[@bobross7005]

Remember which episode(s)? Been so long since I watched TTS

[@HalIOfFamer]

@@bobross7005 it's the shorts I believe.

[@barklordofthesith2997]

@@HalIOfFamer one of the later ones. Had "BellaKor" (yup, i butchered the spelling of that name) in it. I wanna say it was about 8-10 minutes long.

[@apuapustija4470]

TTS sucks dogshit bro

[@rheynilcalderon4246]

It depends what you think is positive within a faction But The most morally good faction has primarch vulkan's respect and that might be the farsight enclave and again vulkan lives

[@Tpainactual]

I don't speak ESL autism.... so I have no idea what you said

[@Tpainactual]

@@rheynilcalderon4246 I think it's more of a dumb person than just a dumb comment

[@jarlathquinn2628]

Stomp Stomp

[@rheynilcalderon4246]

@@jarlathquinn2628 😀 good one 😀😀

[@tukangojek1335]

*STOMP STOMP* VULKAN LIVES *STOMP STOMP*

[@samg7430]

If you think that its morally acceptable to shoot someone who invades your property, the Necrons are an unquestionably moral faction

[@almightybogza]

Yea but is it truly your property if you have been gone for thousands of years and they didnt know you even exist ?

[@samg7430]

@@almightybogza they weren't gone though, they were still on the planet just sleeping. Whats interesting about the Necrons is they often take this into account with trespassers. Anrakyr the Traveller would give the trespassers a period of time to evacuate the planet and if they didn't he would kill every last one of them. All entirely reasonable (more than reasonable tbh) by 40k standards.

[@manolo7490]

The necrons are from the US 100% confirmed

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@manolo7490 nah US has it bit of meddling and invading foreign lands too I'd say they're Swiss more than anything And before you r/woooosh me if I misunderstood something, I don't use Reddit and I don't know what it is

[@manolo7490]

@@comradekenobi6908 Seems fair

[@Jack-0-lantern]

I hope the Farsight Enclaves can become a major faction in the future. I want them to get some Necron engines so they can reverse engineer them and finally go faster. You know, the engines that just help you going beyond light speed but stay in real space. It wouldn't make them overpowered since they're still limited in terms of population but it would really help them move forward.

[@jonumine6250]

Pretty sure, (If the Farsight Enclaves aren't wiped out by a random Tyranid fleet or other stuff) They can pretty much reverse engineer anything alien-related stuff they find around. A small tombworld could be carefully studied (non intrusive like the mechanicus loves to do). If everything goes to plan, it would be like getting 4 mayor STCs in one go... or wake the necrons up and... nevermind. Let's also remember factions inside WH don't know the lore like we do, so it's difficult for them to estimate risk/reward.

[@christbenitez8797]

The Tau is a mirror of humanity.

[@Jack-0-lantern]

@@jonumine6250 Do you think Trazyn the Infinite could be trusted long enough to perform a business transaction with him or would he screw them over eventually? If he could be trusted, What do you the Farsight Enclaves could trade for it? Or if they agreed to a fetch quest, what do you think they would have to get for it?

[@Lightscribe225]

Well that and it still takes them years to reach their destination. But since Necrons have no need for time, or air they don't mind

[@Jack-0-lantern]

@@Lightscribe225 is it still faster than the Tau's ZFR horizon accelerator engine?

[@rexlumontad5644]

1:50 Captain-General Kitten: "Brother Santodes! *Convince them!"* Fabulous Santodes: "MMMM, MARSY BOIS!"

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

BIONIC BABIES

[@Time.slinger_]

ITS OUR BOY

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

@@Time.slinger_ I demand all 4 of these boys to be in the Parenting

[@rexlumontad5644]

3:24 And like TTS Man-Emperor of Mankind, Guilliman is not happy of the Imperium's current state and worked hard to reform it better and unf-uck everything.

[@juliane.mfarias9285]

The Custodes are more similar to the Emperor when he was not being an asshole and a terrible father (Santodes looks fantastic in that fan art).

[@OmarBhoo]

First War hammer book I ever read was Know No Fear, got it used at a flea market. I genuinely didn't know what faction I should be supporting, but crashing a space station into a planet was pretty brutal.

[@hansmatheson5976]

That’s awesome; I had no idea fleas could read nor that their food distribution network is very similar to my own. Congrats.

[@OmarBhoo]

@@hansmatheson5976 why do you have to be insulting out of nowhere?

[@asexypotato2280]

@@OmarBhoo he probably did it cuz you're black. Mfs really out here being racist in the 40k fandom and idolizing the Red Scorpions

[@feral_orc]

@@OmarBhoo wow, that just went way over your head.

[@thelonelypilot]

There are certainly good individuals, and even groups trying to make a difference in 40K. But none of the big factions are good in any way, just doing the "ends justify the means" defense to keep their race or group alive.

[@robertnelson9599]

Then you have factions that actually don’t care, like Orks and Tyranids.

[@t.m.t3215]

Many are highly dysfonctional societies whose model does as much harm to their own kind as good: the post-heresy Imperium, the Dark Eldar, Chaos, the Orks, spend as much time killing themselves as killing their ennemies. Even Tau society is beginning to fracture since the Enclaves.

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

Farsight Enclaves: I am invisible?

[@jdcrosier2682]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 The enclaves, while likely the best option, are a military dictatorship with no democratic representation. They may be saints by 40k standards, but they are still pretty crap by real world standards.

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

@@jdcrosier2682 We dont won every time.

[@brockstephens7961]

Obviously the Adeptus Mechanicus is the morally good faction here, the Omnissiah grants even the lowest of servitors a fulfilling path in life.

[@jackmesrel4933]

I wouldn't call a servitor as a living being, but sure

[@Scp-682_hard_to_kill_reptile]

😂

[@Dariokan]

Yeah we should totally do the same IRL. Lobotomize people who have failed at life, one way or another, and give them a second chance. Plus, they get nice bionics. With a servo-arm my GF would stop bothering me to open pickles jars. :D

[@barklordofthesith2997]

@@Dariokan Charles Schwab is actually working on that. No, i'm not joking.

[@Dariokan]

@@barklordofthesith2997 Too bad you can no longer share links on YT, because all I can find about Charles Schwab is that it's an investment company. Care to elaborate?

[@afez2752]

Necrons shouldn't be in the naughty corner, because of the flayed ones. They are like mental health patients you don't judge them to the same standards, the have the flayer virus which makes them feel like they are still flesh and hate their living metal bodies(Body dysphoria), they are also not able to speak to other Necrons( They use a binary tapping to communicate with each other)

[@carlzerris6566]

As a tau player who loves the enclaves, i find it funny how they seem to be the result of gw back peddling alot.

[@odinlindeberg4624]

"Tau good" "Boo!" "Tau bad" "Boo!" "Tau bad, but _these_ Tau good!" "Yay!"

[@carlzerris6566]

@@odinlindeberg4624 Regardless of the full circle it went through to get to this point, im actaully ok with it because the FSE really are what the original Tau were mant to be. The somewhat ok faction that was WAAAAAY out of its depth.

[@ReaLibro]

@@carlzerris6566 Like jumping in to the deep end when you're taking the beginner swim class.

[@carlzerris6566]

@@ReaLibro Exactly. Thats the grimdarkness of the tau is that they are screeeeeewed. They just dont acknowledge it and keep on going. Sadly this nuance was lost on the bulk of the 40k fandom

[@RAD1111able]

Farsight Enclaves thus far I guess (except the whole immortality Chaos sword part)

[@mateuszk3812]

Well, if target is dead anyway, why let it waste, right ? And one less body to bury or burn, ecology.

[@rexlumontad5644]

The Dawn Blade was Necron technology

[@aweshetdima2157]

Don't know, man. I've a feeling that the Chaos Sword is gonna lead Farsight to Khorn's graces if he gets desperate.

[@stripeybag6977]

@@aweshetdima2157 Didn't Farsight directly encounter Khorne, get a vision of that but then rejected it which is why he became a hermit for a bit?

[@mersito3955]

I saw somewhere that it was an Eldar blade and there was no drawback of sucking soul with it.

[@willy_b_coyote]

I’d imagine that Guilliman is probably the closest thing to being “good” in the lore atm (at least in terms of what we think is good IRL).

[@sugargay7168]

Nah

[@sugargay7168]

I’d imagine that you’re wrong

[@rexlumontad5644]

It would be nice if Vulkan came to give Guilliman a big hug

[@meager992]

There's other Primarchs like Vulkan and Jaghatai who were doing the good guy thing long before Bobby came back

[@FractalSpiral1]

Among Imperials, I'd agree. Bobby G is basically an okay dude with a bit of an ego who's stuck running a regime that is unnecessarily harmful and maliciously incompetent- and he's spread so thin that he can't meaningfully change the system at all. That said, Bobby doesn't make up for the rest of the Imperium, and there's a fair bit more to 40k than the Imperium.

[@Kepora1]

Here's a list of the "Good" factions in Warhammer 40k: - - - - - - -Farsight Enclaves

[@rossnapier4552]

That art when talking about the custodies so many feels I miss TTS so much

[@theonewhoknocks2465]

i like the idea of the tau empire becoming more and more grim as they become bigger and bigger and thus encounter more evils of the galaxy, that's why i actually like the idea of gw turning them from purely good too less than that, sure you start out only wanting to help everyone but then you encounter a warmongering human empire and the more you learn about then the more you learn about their great size and if they can't destroy you than there's probably another treat they are fighting, and they you discover an even more warmongering race known as the orks who breed even faster than humans, and then a bunch of space bugs invade you from lords knows where, AND THEN an entire fucking planet gets kidnapped and turned into weapons for a bunch of knife eared humans who you thought were friendly. are you sure you don't need yo be a bit harsher?

[@TwoSouthFarm]

Way better than darkening ethereals in silly ways

[@theonewhoknocks2465]

@@TwoSouthFarm yeah It should not have been só sudden and instead make the empire slowly becoming less pure good with more and more horrors as a mirror of what became of humanity.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@theonewhoknocks2465 this is why I like the Tau animated series in GW+ because it highlights that aspect (although the series is name Exodite, you'll understand why they named it when you watch it)

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

Nah, this only appeals to the neckbeards who like the Imperium, and dont want another major faction to be good.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 tbh from experience Imperium fans know their faction isn't inherently morally good But more so because it's the only human faction in a sea of every sort of being trying to tear eradicate humanity into atoms

[@jbark678]

Baseline regard for sapient life is the bare minimum to be considered good and I don't think any faction meets that standard. I'm not sure any individuals in the setting meet that standard, tbh.

[@ErikVonStrix3]

I have always wholeheartedly subscribed to the mentality that there is no good FACTION in 40k... However there ARE good individuals in almost all of them. Glad you are doing a video on this

[@jmgonzales7701]

there is no good in slanesh

[@oliverp3545]

Thing with the Craftworlders is they are only as evil as you believe that speciesism is not moral.

[@nothingnobody1454]

They aren't pragmatic enough about it. They could have allied with the imperium already if they weren't more racist than even humanity

[@stephenbarrett8861]

Harlequins are good guys.

[@ralphize5153]

@@nothingnobody1454 lmao, imagine humanity agreeing to that. There’s no chance that the imperium would have a long term peace with Eldar since they suck ass.

[@khaaneph7311]

regarding the nids, its a bit more complicated than finding a plot of land and farming it. And secondarily, we dont really know enough about their motives to conclude if they are truly evil. farming isn't an infinite source of biomatter, its a method of recycling biomatter. Plants turn light energy, water and CO2 to sugars that can be used to make biological stuff. But they also need lots of other compounds from soil and such to do all that. Animals eat plants and defecate, putting material back into the soil, as well as breathe out CO2, putting carbon back into the air. its not gaining any material, its just recycling what is already on the planet, using light to provide the energy to allow them to turn stable molecules into unstable ones they can use to make other, more biologically useful molecules. tyranids cut out the middle man. Devour an entire planet, gain resources. frankly we dont know *why* they do this. are they a vanguard, paving the way for another civilisation? their own thing? running for their lives? who knows. Could they just settle down and endlessly recycle their own biomass without hurting anyone? Maybe. perhaps they abide by the dark forest hypothesis and have concluded to survive all other species must be wiped out before someone malevolent becomes advanced enough to kill them. we just dont know.

[@cally2984]

Tyranids to me feel like something that was made as a bioweapon, it evolved, ate everything in it's origin galaxy and then begun to spread like the plague across the universe and simply follows it's core programming. Something I can imagine humanity to make in future but robotic self repairing terminator esq shit that gets out of hands when the wrong kind of AI eventually gets installed and takes over everything automated.

[@pineutrino]

I’d wondered about Tyranid agriculture many times too, and mostly agree with you here, though wouldn’t call farming *just* recycling biomass. Yes, for the most part it’s the conversion between biomolecule types, though there’s a fair amount of inorganic-to-organic conversion too. Like, suppose a volcano erupts and buries a nearby jungle under a ten-metre layer of ash. Immediately after the eruption, its upper surface is 100% rock. Return in 100,000 years and it’s back to jungle. Most of its new biomass is from atmospheric CO2, no question, but quite a lot is also recycled ex-ash. I’m no expert on 40k’s canon specifics re the nitty-gritty of Tyranid biomatter yum yums, but from memory, every source I’d encountered depicts Tyranids gobbling biomatter and only biomatter. Zero conversion. Multiple times I’d wanted to yell at them “Haven’t you chumps ever heard of agriculture?” Yes if they possessed realistic biophysics it wouldn’t be in 40k, the whole point of 40k is snazzy grimderp fantasies, but let me have my nitpicky fun, dagnabbit. Yours too 😁

[@khaaneph7311]

@@pineutrino I’ll have to disagree on just the biomatter part. Tyranids are known to absorbed entire oceans and atmospheres. Some older literature says they also extract a planet’s molten core.

[@pineutrino]

@@khaaneph7311 Well I'll be. Really? Well bully for them, then. They're smarter and more formidable than my glances through 40k's fluff had led me to believe. Hats off to 'em.

[@pineutrino]

@@khaaneph7311 On a neighbouring issue ... I also don't recall ever coming across any 40k fluff/worldbuilding/stories/whatever depicting Tyranids as anything more than an utterly incommunicative, utterly alien eldritch intelligence, with all attempts at communication failing. All they do is consume. Or so it's seemed. Maybe I'm mistaken there too. It's entirely possible the 40k universe contains at least one occurrence of "Hiya schmucks! I'm a Tyranid hive mind. I beg of you never to dream that just 'cause I'm currently making polite chit-chat, I'd ever reconsidered my implacable DESIRE to gobble the entire universe and everything in it, starting with your brainstem." Ever spotted any?

[@GodlordBazi]

Personally I like the Rak'Gol for their relaxed way of life. No TVs, no telephones, just utter annihilation of everyone who enters their personal space and occasionally a nice and cosy radiation bath.

[@sweatilaa5325]

i would just like to mention the Blood Pact as an example of a friendlier Khorne group. they fight like a proper army and actually tries to recruit people inside the territory they rule over or those who surrender to them instead of forcing people in to joining their group.

[@stripeybag6977]

You know it would be interesting for a part 2 to this but just Imperium factions because of how many they have.

[@tom4115]

2nd this

[@rexlumontad5644]

2:49 Amberley Veil is a wholesome and reasonable Inquisitor who dated Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM.

[@rexlumontad5644]

*sees title* King T'Challa: "We don't do that here."

[@turtlehead8386]

If we think about it they all have their own goals which are considered good in their eyes. But the methods used to accomplish their task are bad. Not counting Chaos, Nids and Orks(well maybe some of the smarter ones).

[@kristoffer9400]

I think it is so demonstrably evident that Tau are the least morally compromised faction in 40k, evidence by how they are pretty much the only faction that gets judged in relation to our own society.

[@comradekenobi6908]

They are also the youngest one lore wise

[@Dariokan]

Except when you take into account that Etherals radiate pheromones that basically mind control 99% of the T'au society.

[@kristoffer9400]

​@@Dariokan, No, that isn't an exception. Secondly I am pretty sure the pheromone part is a 100% fan theory and not actual lore. Essentially while it does sound dystopian, if you actually look at the examples of Tau society horror, those are much more relatable fears of social control. But just comparing it to any other faction and it is dwarfed in comparison.

[@cp1cupcake]

@@kristoffer9400 I'm pretty sure most of the "neutral" factions are judged in relation to our own society, its just that the Tau probably have the closest parallel to it right now. If you go back in history (or even some modern conflicts) where there is a state of total war, the you get something a lot closer to the Imperium than I think most people are really comfortable with thinking about.

[@windradyne8724]

Evil is a point of view Anakin.

[@Silverized84]

whoever did the image @1:15 deserve a tractor of medals

[@wheminem1007]

How does one commit self molestation major kill?

[@majorkill]

Google it

[@astropunch101]

Honestly it's more like : "Who's the least douchiest?" I mean imo the Tyranids are the least evil, cuz they're like animals who're just hungry and we're in the menu.

[@placomsonat9483]

I mostly agree with you expect for the Tau they might be clean and shiny but they are still bad. Everyone joins The Greater Good whether they want to or not and dissidents are erased , on a galactic empire scale. Not to mention that the Tau did genocide the first species that they encountered.

[@islar7832]

I would flip the harlequins and exodites. Like Harlequins do some really disturbing stuff to anyone that gets in their way, be it willing or unwiling...

[@sterlingt.3578]

Ork: Izz’a Gud ap Fight’n!!!

[@danpitzer765]

Farsight Enclaves - Proof that Good Guys Wear Mecha.

[@burntbread6575]

I just want the Farsight Enclave to be expanded upon in the lore.Such a cool faction with so much potential.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Necrons: LEAVE US TF ALONE! Ranking: *Nearly pure evil* Me: ???

[@jarenalfred66]

Trazyn is a wholesome pokemon master, and vulkan just likes to give hugs and I won't hear anything else about it

[@kccustodes2618]

Another video with mature evolved content. I have been with you since 1st month Covid and watched your maturation. There is no doubt that your content is becoming much deeper, more indepth, and with views that are unique and definitely your own. Well done, young sir. Kudos.

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

Slight disagreement, I would rank dark eldar as more evil than chaos. Otherwise it seems pretty spot on.

[@alexmoran3187]

Just one word, Daemonculaba

[@idfk1608]

I would argue that the thousand sons (or at least the prodigal sons, ahriman’s warband) are the most moral of the chaos factions. I mean, rylanor’s last stand, ahriman’s omnibus trilogy (one of the few cult marines to actually get one) and the fact ahriman as well as most of the other sorcerers see chaos as a tool they can use and aren’t necessarily slurping the cool aid.

[@idfk1608]

Also ahriman as a character. That dude shit talks like every other chaos aligned character ever and sometimes works with loyalists if it suits him, proving that he isn’t single mindedly obsessed with carnage and killing. Also also he feels real guilt for the rubric and is only motivated by the fact he could maybe fix it.

[@CloudSephiroth]

Great video. The farsight enclave, exodites, and space dwarves are my favorite faction. I like the little bit of good in what are otherwise assholes.

[@XmortoxX1990]

I love how the Imperium as a whole is right in the middle XD

[@trasen5626]

A faction of pacifist farmer nids cut off from the hivemind would be pretty funny.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

I wish there was an example in canon.

[@nightlordnorris4446]

I may be a newer 40k fan but I feel confident enough to say that The Emperor knew what he was doing with Custodies. None of them have turned to Chaos, they are smart, they have bonded with Astartes, they tell Primarchs what's up, and they protect the Emperor and Imperial citizens. The Custodes only have to respond to the Emperor's commands, but a lot of them are just seemingly good guys. Aquila even bonded with Argel Tal, A Word Bearer. I've never been super keen on the Tau and tbh I'm not super into the faction, but the farsight enclaves is definitely something I plan to look into more.

[@SomeGuy-gc8zs]

The Imperium being morally anything is kind of a hard sell, because the Imperium is less of a faction in its own right and more like a collective of human factions working for mutual benefits, and even within those factions there are drastically different subfactions- I would much rather fight beside the Lamenters than the Marines Malevolent, and the character of the Catachan Jungle Fighters is very different from that of the Death Korps of Krieg. The Imperium is probably the most fleshed-out and complex faction, because they're humans written by humans, while a lot of the other races have been reduced to planets of hats because humans have a hard time writing aliens, and are therefore much easier to characterize as good or evil.

[@maninthemask6275]

Even if you fought for the more “noble” parts of imperium you would still be forced to stomp on alien new borns head’s

[@rafal2959]

@@maninthemask6275 Id stomp on baby orks and tyranids in a heartbeat. Dark Eldar too. There are plenty of zenos that need purging. Non-major faction zenos, not clear.

[@Mister-Thirteen]

So with the Leagues of Votann reemerging into the galaxy I wonder where they will fall on this list.

[@thesilliestgoose5990]

The only one is The Farsighted Enclaves. Literally the only one, because space Anarcho Communism unfathomably based

[@sirius_solaris]

Thousand Sons, oh also The Doomed Ones simply because they wish to kill everything and since everything is bad, that means they are good.

[@cp1cupcake]

Thinking about it, if the Lamenters weren't given the black rage back, I could believe they were a Thousand Sons successor chapter. It would certain fit with how often they got screwed.

[@gwyndolin1536]

I love playing BattleMace 40,000. Especially playing as the Galaxy Soldiers to defeat the Space Bugs, Robo-Skeletons, Space Elves, Space Ogres, Space Communist, and the Forces of Disorder.

[@TheRewasder97]

I would remove the oragne, put the orks in red and necrons in yellow, otherwise, I agree.

[@goldenseal640]

Custodes story actually was wholesome

[@paytonkraft7564]

After having heard this, I have concluded, the warp is morally grey, the chaos gods are NOT.

[@ChristophelusPulps]

"I wouldn't call them evil, per se. Just kind of asshole-ish." That about sums up the setting, I think.

[@forthelols9408]

If the emperor was revived could he make new primearchs or no?

[@jamesmortimer4016]

Captain Andre from the Armageddon steel legion. Hius balls are large enough to form an entire faction and he is morally perfect

[@logangrimnar3800]

I had no idea the Custodes saved a woman from sacrifice. They truly are Chad's.

[@DemitriVladMaximov]

"You are like a widower father who is doing his best. Your ability to care is unsurpassed." Santodies.

[@VindensSaga]

Isha is

[@monsterhunternathanultimat4114]

Can tell us a reference where the instance of that woman who the sisters is battle intended to sacrifice were stopped by the custodes

[@zettgundam6317]

yes Imperium, tau and eldar

[@randycreason3399]

One of your better videos for sure. I typically write off 40k as having no good guys, just defenders of a status quo. You definitely changed my mind on that. Keep up the good work.

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

At least you don't have Jedi Warlords

[@CRAKEN-bt5cu]

Can someone please give me that fanart of santodes "convincing" the mechanicus to let them speak with their leader

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Part of the trouble here is morality is subjective and often completely different from benevolence. For example you show mercy and forgiveness to a criminal, said criminal goes forward to kill people. Your mercy was an immoral act, by being benevolent you risked the greater whole. The Eldar sacrifice a human world, and save a hundred more in the balance. Small comfort to the sacrificed but it is the moral choice.

[@Trowa440]

My first thought seeing the video title was absolutely the Farsight Enclave. I feel GW can continue making them one of the more "morally good" factions since they're a small splinter faction from one of the smallest races already. That limits how much they can really change the 40K universe. I also like the interesting rub that Farsight himself doesn't really hate the mainline Tau even though they have a bit of a bone to pick with him. He's learned too much but still fights for the Tau people's best interests and safety, even if he has to be demonized by the average non-Farsight Enclave Tau. That said Farsight himself is based on/said to be be based on Char Aznable from Mobile Suit Gundam (pretty much the main reason Farsight is my boy), and Char was eventually willing to make extraordinarily evil compromises for what he deemed a good cause. So I do wonder how much GW will lean into him being a Char clone if Farsight ever really gets pushed into a corner. It's also pretty telling that the Farsight Enclave is a huge cult of personality based around him. If he was ever killed off or did have his morals compromised I could see the whole faction sliding into morally dubious territory. All in all, the Farsight Enclave is a super rad little bit of 40K lore. I love the angle, the change of morals from the usual races, etc. But I'm equally glad that it is on such a small scale so that the "grimdarkness" of 40K that we all know and love is in no danger of going away.

[@machomaam4975]

What makes 40k compelling is the concept of rage at the dying of the light. Everything else gets kinda lamer in various degrees until we get to the Tau, who are objectively cringe. Morality is no longer a concern to the Imperium of Man because it was taken from them long, long ago.

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

Tau arent cringe.

[@jackstrayfeald1007]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Tau are the ultimate cringe

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

@@jackstrayfeald1007 No

[@jackstrayfeald1007]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Yes

[@MrMoros1]

1:18 - 1:58 I never thought in my life I'd see Santodes' full and automated splendor with my own eyes. Who the Hell made this glorious tribute to the greatest 40K content ever made? I MUST KNOW!!!

[@michamirowski4673]

I'd say that maybe not good but certainly less bad are the knights of house hawkshroud. I mean, they repay each debt tenfold and are jest space sunbro covenant from dark souls

[@daneyal7162]

4:58- That is actually a very interesting subject to debate over, and I really wish that there were more movies and TV shows that would center around this subject, because I personally find it very interesting. You see, I'm a huge lego fan, and over the years, I built many lego mocs of numerous fictional characters through Lego building computer programs, but whenever I choose a new character to add to my building list, I always learn first everything I can about him / her, because not every cool fictional character out there is someone that I can build wholeheartedly, because of them might be genuine a-holes. For example, my latest lego moc was that of Disney's character of Hercules, the main character of one of my favourite movies ever (which I've seen many times), and in the last time I watched it, a few weeks ago, I started to realise that much of Herc's motivation throughout the movie was actually pretty selfish, because he wanted to join the olympians, and being a true hero was the only way for it to happen. Sure, Hercules did saved a lot of people, and he is a very nice person, and he never allowed his fame to turn him into an arrogant, condescending individual, but most of what he did before the final act of the movie was seemingly to serve his own goal, and not out of serving the greater good. So, even though I finished building his model some time ago (it came out great😊), I still sometimes wonder if he really was benevolent from an earlier stage of the movie. Now, something that I learned over the years is that, just because someone is doing something from a selfish reason, it doesn't automatically make them into bad people, because in Hercules' case, his selfish desire to join the gods comes from his long time longing to find a place where he truely belongs, as he felt like an outsider for must of his early life. Wanting to find your place in the world is not an evil desire. It's very humane and understandable to want to find your place. That is why, in conclusion, I believe that, even though he acted selfishly, Hercules was a good person in the movie long before its final act, and even if he really would've just been a glory hound, and he would've allowed his fame to corrupt him, I still think that, in his selfishness, he would've still provided a huge service for the greater good of greece. After all, you don't need to be a good person to be able to kill a vicious monster, or save people in distress. Sure, not every bad people would do it hard, but it doesn't mean that it's beyond their physical capabilities. To summ it all up, I do think that actions speak louder than words, and that even arrogant people can still provide a service for the greater good, even if their motivations are selfish.

[@acephas3]

Second. And it’s easily the Tau.

[@Keyad_]

tau enclaves because ethereals

[@acephas3]

@@Keyad_ And they do good work. They do the Ethereal’s work.

[@DrXaiver]

I’ve been wanting to see more stuff like this, honestly I would love to see the battles where enemy factions allied against a bigger threat or generally just have an uncomfortable alliance

[@Fuzzycat16]

The space Warp Gators are the Morally good Faction in 40k.

[@Romczy]

Eldar: "Sacrifice of million human lives is worth if it saves even one Eldar ". Some Eldar, somewhere

[@irishspartanstudios]

This is straight up heresy, but I think we can all agree the Emperor is one of the badest dudes around. There is no point in saving humanity if we lose our humanity in the process.

[@isaacslaton6504]

I hear you, but I hardly think that makes him the worst. everyone I the red is definitely a bit worse than that.

[@dkakito]

I always loved the idea that the Kaos Gods are only a reflection of how they are worshipped. They DO have a Dual nature, but since no one focuses on the Positive Natures of the Gods, that the positive side of the gods is DEEPLY buried.

[@omrmajeed]

Anyone who isnt a complete hypocrite is morally good by 40K standards. So that excludes Emperor, Imperium and couple of Demon Princes, Etherials and Drukari.

[@CurrieG16]

I wonder where the Squats would end up landing on this

[@briantarigan7685]

If you still seeking for the morally good factions in this verse, than you haven't been paying any attention It's chaos vs order, survive or die

[@eirikarnesen9691]

but order is supposed to be good... order is good in all other fanatsy universes, good vs evil is the core of fantasy

[@qwertypasta1890]

Personally I see the grey knights as rather upstanding, I’m not sure where I saw it but I recall seeing something about them returning eldar spirit stones to their craftworlds. I see that as putting them at least in the realm of being good.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Don’t they kill a ton of, good imperial citizens just to bless their ammunition? There was also that incident a bunch of sisters resisted chaos corruption for a really long time, and after the grey night rescued them they massacred the bunch and used their blood to bless their already daemon resistant armor.

[@scottforsythe37]

Team Farsight

[@TheGammabomb06]

Fleshtearers are a good example. While their brothers can legit claim temporary insanity and extreme ptsd, they just get really hangry sometimes.

[@Kareszkoma]

When Major said "corrupt officials" at 3:40, I related and my mind got shocked a bit. I'm from Hungary. Never would I have thought, that I would be relating to such a thing. Surely not a decade ago. But nowadays, I'm planning on having a credit card that the government can't stole money from, and distancing myself from the government as much as possible. Thinking on how to save my money. Investment? Gold? Or should I just move a country? For a moment I was shocked, because all that rolled through my mind, and a feeling that I'm being forced out of my own country. My country that I love, went in a decade from "going towards the west", to... a rampant corruption.

[@MrFallenone]

Welcome to the post communist central europe my southern neighbour. It's the same here as well.

[@Kareszkoma]

@@MrFallenone Yeah. Thanks. It's not a good feeling. Hope you do well. How bad is it there?

[@thispersonwriting1889]

I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you find a way to endure and even thrive in your life. I wish I could help.

[@Kareszkoma]

@@thispersonwriting1889 No. No need for that. I think I just leave. Honestly, in the last couple days, I was browsing what kind of new trade skill should I learn to earn well. And I mean Well. Not the some hungarian elderly says: "thats okay, I guess you can buy potato from that". Well. But, I already have 2 skills, I'm forklift certified, and honestly, there is just no point. It saddened me a bit, cause I have a land here, and many memories. Sometimes it's just like that. No need for pity or anything. Thank you for writing, hope you guys will do well too.

[@KyussSpeed-sg5je]

My favourite thing about the Custodes (idk a lot about them admittedly) is that most of them would be and would have been happy to fight in entirely plain armour, and probably don't care at all about wealth in the slightest

[@Idk-how-to-paint]

Nah that's the fun part, even the good guys are bad.

[@goodtimesgamingtm1316]

World Eater reply to be called dishonorable: “HEY! I may butcher, murder and eviscerate everything you’ve ever known and loved, but at least I’m gonna do it in MELEE.”

[@sanctamachina]

Concerning the Drukhari, they CANNOT actually just go get a soul stone. As their thousands of years of not using psychic powers have atrophied their capacity for it. Without that, they lack the connection necessary to use a soul stone. If a Drukhari left to live among the Craftworlders they would have signed their one way ticket to She Who Thirsts.

[@Tpainactual]

"autistic screeching" - literally what I heard when trying to read what you wrote.

[@bonbatomic]

actually, they can. In one book, there is a striking scorpions that is a Dark Eldar. They don't explain how he manages to be psychicly able to have a soulstone, but I suppose it is a lot of meditation and emotions self-control learning. I think it is extremely rare, tho

[@CloroxBleach-mh5mk]

1:26 love that artwork, TTS deserves to be remembered for being so good

[@ieatmice751]

No

[@fullduck97]

Is the pet octopus a Victorious reference?