Can Loyalists Use Chaos Without Becoming Corrupted? | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@majorkill]

Cheeky dabble in Chaos never hurt anyone ;) Except when it did. Black Friday deal's never have though : majorkill.com/ Except when they did

[@lordveteran9126]

Hi. Love the content. Dont know if you have covered it.. but maybe you could talk about psychic blanks?

[@darthlordoftheshit271]

@@lordveteran9126 he did

[@lordveteran9126]

@@darthlordoftheshit271 thanks...looking now lol🤟👍

[@grishakaleesh4207]

😂 I love your way of looking at things. I feel like some people take things waaay too seriously. Anyways, thanks for all the great content!

[@DavieTait]

Grey Knights use the Blade of Antwyr which is a bound greater daemon

[@goodtimesgamingtm1316]

Khorne watching a space marine kill the ascended daemon Primarch of his least favorite brother using an axe imbued with his own power that wasn’t corrupting the marine: “That’s fucking hilarious.”

[@inquisitorkryptman7893]

Khone hate slannesh more than other two

[@SimonNissen94]

@@inquisitorkryptman7893 Khorne hate everyone, he literally gave one of his best lords and warriors brain damage for the lolz, but to be fair that same dude tried to take khorne place which is kinda dumb xD

[@phantomwraith1984]

Khorne hates slaanesh more rhan Tzeentch

[@MuvLuv]

Not really, in the eyes of Khorne it is an honourable duel if all the differences are put aside, alas all such combat fuels his existence

[@TheWarmachine375]

0:17 Guardman: "We're surrounded!" Captain: "Good! We can fire in all directions!"

[@yorneustein7851]

Death to the man who manages to miss!

[@slyllamademon2652]

The term “fighting fire with fire” comes from the concept of “if you already burn something, it cannot be burned.” So you can make firebreaks to keep fire from spreading.

[@Jdcp21]

u need to learn irony dude, he was kidding.

[@thecrimsonfire4921]

@@Jdcp21 I highly doubt Majorkill knew this interesting little tidbit. He was just making a generic joke about how “fighting fire with fire” sounds counter-intuitive.

[@Prockski]

@@Jdcp21 He said you dont see firefighters walking around with flamethrowers but in some parts of the world it is actually a tool of fire prevention.

[@HalIOfFamer]

@@Jdcp21 You never know with MK, better to be sure and point out the obvious.

[@aownbey609]

Drip torch

[@TheWarmachine375]

"I use Chaos to fight Chaos." - Chad Eisenhorn

[@henryc2601]

My reading of the Magos novel is that Eisenhorn is no longer Eisenhorn, he is now a meat suit for a demon. I might be wrong but I think he is no longer loyal and no longer Eisenhorn

[@raipe125]

@@henryc2601 al according the plan. Is it invisible alpharius?

[@crazedrabbyt221]

"AFIX BAYONETS!!!" -common weak commisar

[@Nutellafuerst]

fuck Eisenhorn...I read the trilogy this year and after hereticus, I'm pretty done with the guy.

[@jonte924]

@@henryc2601 Not exactly, he is still loyal even though he was officially declared a heretic. However he uses a Demon called Cherubael and he uses Enuncia to control him. I also really recommend the Bequin Novels (also from Dan Abnett), they explore it a bit further. (sorry for my English , its not my native language) :D

[@im2randomghgh]

Better metaphor: the warp is the ocean, chaos is the salt. Pervasive, everywhere, very difficult to separate.

[@cactusmann5542]

but not impossible

[@vinnylatoria4478]

Hard to spread unlike ur mom

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

@@vinnylatoria4478 i didn’t see that coming good one lmao

[@hellahighjavi7276]

Damn what a burn just like my brothers best friends father son in laws mother father who passed away during 911. He was on his way to whataburger at Midland Texas he was on his phone or watching a video while driving crash and well gone. Anyways that your mom joke was funny AF

[@Narunata247]

That would mean Chaos is everywhere in the warp just like salt in the ocean which just not true. There are clearly part of the warp that’s not tainted by Chaos. Better metaphor would be The Warp is a huge constant flowing pool and chaos are those assholes who takes a piss in the pool but you can clearly see their piss because the pool was dyed to reveal piss so your have like piss clouds in the pool but the pool in constantly flowing and changing so eventually the piss will be washed away but then these assholes got a kidney problem so they just keep pissing therefore creating piss clouds again thus the only way to truly keep the pool clean is by getting rid of these assholes out of the pool.

[@Speedy570]

wow, some Warhammer lore thats by a fellow aussie, really enjoyable, and not 10 hours long. Is this a dream?

[@uh57tissues]

Welcome to majorkill mate.

[@kellerblair2952]

No lore is 10 hours long

[@TimTim_125]

@@kellerblair2952 There's hundreds of 2-10 h long lore videos

[@Speedy570]

@@kellerblair2952 I was making an exaggeration

[@elperronimo]

@@kellerblair2952 he was exaggerating but i dont think im the only one that likes luetins style but dont have the attention span for his movie long lore videos

[@Wodferd]

I can't remember if it's 1st or 2nd Edition, but the Dark Heresy Tabletop RPG has a background option that lets you play as an acolyte who volunteered to be Daemon Hosted, and then exorcised by a priest. Thus making you extremely resistant to warp fuckery in the future, but at the cost of a fair bit of physical and psychological damage in the long term.

[@rafalgorski7711]

its in both editions - you are talking about Exorcised. In first edition it was special template for character in second it is a background option in expansion Enemies Beyond.

[@ssc4649]

"Dont see firefighters walking around with flame throwers." Wildland firefighters literally carry around drip torches which sling flame 13 feet in all directions to specifically fight fire with fire. Then they walk around in the embers.

[@Snowy123]

It's kinda stated that the second book was subtly corrupting eisenhorn. This book was smarter instead of whispering clearly heretical ideas to eisenhorn it let eisenhorn think he has control and therefore gaining control of him.

[@nil981]

Never use chaos to fight chaos. It's a losing strategy.

[@Tpainactual]

@FL EX "I know heroine makes everyone addicted but I'll be good. I'm just going to do a little" - every drug addict ever

[@Tpainactual]

@@ianharrison5758 no

[@mrgamerguy9104]

@@ianharrison5758 What's up, do you mind me reporting you to the federal government.

[@codysing1223]

You do indeed fight fire with fire as a firefighter. Most essential in wild fire protocol. Yes they have flamethrowers, more like flame tossers.

[@grahamwebb7885]

I was about to comment this as fire eats other fires oxygen

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Considering that the Grey Knights use Chaos to fight against Chaos, yeah loyalists could in theory use it, but in practice mortals and several other space marines will become corrupt if they so much as look at a Chaos relic the wrong way.

[@migBdk]

Psychic powers are not chaos though, that's what he starts out explaining. Grey Knights do not use Chaos any more than a Farseer does, they just use the power of the raw Warp. Sorcery, demonic weapons, demonic pacts, summoning of demons - that is using chaos.

[@voidstrider801]

@@migBdk Radical inquisitors seem to have too much fun with chaos relics and shit. They seem fine though... mostly.

[@TattooedTabletop]

@@migBdk That's true. However Castellan Crowe wields a daemonblade that is constantly whispering to him and trying to corrupt him.

[@Tacoguy1000]

@@TattooedTabletop Isn't that mostly because it's constantly trying to hop away and shank somebody?

[@MrDustyGaming]

@@voidstrider801 oh dunno like. Eisenhorn did some fuck up stuff in those books, like binding a inquisitor to a demon just because he doesn’t like him. And he did the same to his best mate later on. Ye

[@minipaintermatt]

I like the idea that khorne is just so impressed with logan he's like ye man have this cool axe.

[@antcow1239]

Commissar Cain is a very good book line. Cain is a self proclaimed coward who fights like a hero

[@doomthedemonhedgehog]

actually mate out in the outback yeah some firefighters have backburner flamethrowers and they are used to help stop forest fires and prevent them as well by burning off excess fuel

[@kirkcannon8079]

Suggestions: -What if Malcador was a traitor? -What if Konrad Kurze killed Dorn? -What if Timmy was a primarch? -What if The Primarchs landed on different planets? Khan and Fulgrim for example

[@Sorrybutno]

"The warp is an ocean and Choas is the dead sea, a small part of the whole"...The Dead Sea is a salt lake.

[@arcangel1172]

I am surprised you forgot Castellan Crowe and his corrupted sword which is clearly a Chaos artifact. Great video btw and cheers to the Black Friday sale.

[@hellraider_6817]

Lol exactly That's the first thing that came to my mind on seeing this vid

[@Northbravo]

Doesn't his sword have some sort of chaos entity in it that represents all murder?

[@thekingofcarcosa6408]

@@Northbravo I think you’re thinking of Drach’nyen, which is the Daemon sword wielded by Abaddon the Despoiler

[@GearShotgun]

@@Northbravo not quite. the sword your thinking of is abaddons like the other comment said. Crowes sword is so awful that just being around it makes people wanna kill whoever’s holding it and take it for themselves.

[@CommanderBohn]

Step 1: Acquire Chaos Artifact. Step 2: Put on a ton of blessed stuff on yourself (also get more willpower training and hypnotherapy). Step 3: After doing everything in Step 2 you can now safely use the Chaos Artifact. Or just be Justicar Crowe.

[@christiandauz3742]

You do realize 99.99999% of the time the user is corrupted right?

[@vinnylatoria4478]

@@christiandauz3742 ummmmm Logan Grimnar

[@CommanderBohn]

@@christiandauz3742 Logan G. Edit: Also Marneus and everyone in Chaos Rising if you equip your homies with gear that overpowers any Chaos gear.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@CommanderBohn I like to see Logan hold Drach'nyen or the Blade of Antywr The latter kills Grey Knights that hold it except Garran Crowe

[@flameknightplayz2939]

@@vinnylatoria4478 Most space marines that use chaos artifacts or chaos power get corrupted. Only a tiny few can resist chaos corruption, but most fall quickly.

[@gustavchambert7072]

For most agents of the throne, using chaos to fight chaos really comes down to a cost-benefit analysis. It is almost impossible to use deamons and the more fucked-up chaos shit long-term without being corrupted. If you are a psyker, a mentally healthy one at least, using just regular sorcery is probably fine. It's just a multiplier of your powers, nothing more. Anything beyond that though inevitably becomes a question of doing more good than harm before you fall, and making sure one has uncorrupted associates who are ready to step in and BLAM you once you go too far.

[@thehorcerer1449]

Video idea: what would happen if the imperium (or any other faction) tossed a black hole into the eye of terror?

[@mr.rousseau.4655]

What ever happens I do not think it will help. The warp is made out of an esoteric energy and black holes only consume regular matter and energy to our knowledge.

[@jonathanathor117]

Well vortex weapons are essentially synthetic black holes. And somehow for some reason vortex weapons transport objects into the warp. Meaning that black holes may or may not do that.

[@jonathanathor117]

@@mr.rousseau.4655 more like corrupted spiritual energy.

[@captainprivate320]

It will send them to the SUPER WARP!

[@alphanoodle1877]

0:00 actually putting out fire with fire is very good way, you burn a ring of fire around the major fire you want put out, and if you make sure the ring of fire does not spread, eventually the fuel for the bigger fire is burned away and cannot spread eventually starving to death.

[@toshaheritalvinen6426]

Acktualleeey, fire fighters sometimes use fire to keep a big fire contained. Still love your vids mate, just poking fun

[@majorkill]

Unless I see a firefighter use a flamethrower against a fire my point stands

[@majorkill]

Dammit now I want to see it

[@vinnylatoria4478]

@@majorkill That’s kinda how it works. They ‘choke’ the oxygen away from the main fire so they can fight it. It’s pretty cool!

[@florianfritz3589]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_burn

[@cp1cupcake]

My immediate reaction to him saying that was basically the same thing. I was also going to point out that he is complaining about that saying while doing a lore video in a universe where ammonium nitrate is used to cool engines.

[@jtfbreedlove]

Gregor, while currently a renegade "inquisitor", is still a loyal servant of the emperor, knowledge/exposure to some language called enuncia may have something to do with this. There's also a grey knight with a demon sword that requires him to feel almost no emotion to use without corruption.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

I think Eisenhorn is going to end up like Quixos. Greater and greater goals, carried out with darker and darker methods.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

Castellan crowe? The grey knight with the funny whispering sword?

[@milanwiehe6578]

@@somethinglikethat2176 thats definitive the whole point of the 3 books. His journey from puritan to radical. Dont know how majorkill says that it doesnt affect eisenhorn when in the book gregor says multiple times that it does infact him and he feels it. He always keeps the book at his side and doesnt give it to the inquisition. Heck after book 2 he created a demon host for no appearend reason and locked it up in his basement.

[@raipe125]

That last go the kill lucius... Plis

[@lolbots686]

@@somethinglikethat2176 i doubt it Sure eisenhorn might use chaos,but that man has a absolutely unbelievable will,being a psyker is part of that Also enucia is a Very powerful weapon,using the language of the universe,he was able to perma bind cherubael to his will/make sure he cant cause much So very possibly gregor could cleanse his corruption through enucia if it ever happened Gregor will probably eat it,but hes gonna go out loyal and a badass

[@titaniumwolf1123]

Best part of this video is that flamethrowers are literally the most used item of firefighters by a pretty large margin. But an Aussie wouldn't know that considering they don't know they are literally slaves to their government without realizing it 🤣

[@MrUltimategamer44]

Fun fact: the reason the term fight fire with fire actually makes sense. Yes, fire firefighters actually use flame throwers. It’s a tactic used to stop wildfires in forests or fields by controlling the flame and purposely cutting a line the actual bigger fire can’t get past

[@Blyledge]

I have seen firefighters walking around with flamethrowers. It's called backburning and it's how you stop brush fires. Considering the Australian wildfires last month you ought to know about it by now.

[@RogueFox2185]

“We used Chaos to Destroy Chaos.” -The Grey Knights

[@negativejam2188]

Some fire fighters use incendiary devices that are similar to “grenades.” You throw the device into a flame and it either breaks or releases its fuel into area. The fuel burns hotter and faster than the fire around it, burning away all the oxygen and putting out both fires. I don’t know how widely used they are, I just know they were being looked at a few years ago, back when I was young.

[@xavier84623]

7:30 I think all 3 are correct. Especially fenris blocking magic, I think there was a minor warp god that was created by the people of fenris. It was a wolf god that was resistant to the elements and also in spirit. That minor god was then shoved in russ. It makes sense, the rune priest are always talking about how their magic comes from the planet and not the warp.

[@znalniaskas]

Great video! You also have some xenos using chaos without really getting tainted, a prime example would be Farsight and his sword.

[@zanir2387]

I doubt the Dawn blade to be a demon sword, it's looking doesn't match the looking of the sword that corrupted fulgrim, i bet for a eldar sword

[@JamesW609]

Chaos is like gunpowder it’s more than capable of killing you if used recklessly but with the right precautions it can be used as an effective tool

[@Rustojaw]

Okay magnus

[@septemberstarlight9362]

the saying fight fire with fire does hold some literal merit if you look at it in some slightly different ways. using controlled fires to burn out certain areas before a large fire either gets to it, or even starts is a good way of containing it, as a fire cannot burn what has already been burnt.

[@churlish7851]

Actually they do controled burns to fight fires. So technically they do fight fire with fire. Love the videos.

[@MCgaming27]

“The Relictors” also use chaos artifacts/weapons against chaos.

[@knightpaladin9841]

Kinda boring to paint though they are

[@CoolCraftCool]

The whole chaos artifacts can really mess you up though look at the Blood Ravens its was full on civil war one chaos wisper to many that situation can go sideways fast!

[@Wolfogre]

@@knightpaladin9841 Sadly, I have to concur. Nonetheless I intend to make a small force of them, on sheer principle, despite their boring colour scheme.

[@knightpaladin9841]

@@Wolfogre good luck. From someone who had a 1500 point list of them

[@lkiyxrl1774]

“You don’t see firefighters walking around with flamethrowers” Farenheight 451…

[@DVAcme]

If you're willing to include the games, Captain Titus used the Power Source, a battery of Warp energy, to supercharge the Titan Invictus in order to destroy the Orbital Spire of Forge World Graia, which had been transformed into a Warp portal in order to bring forth a Chaos invasion. Captain Titus proved to be completely incorruptible.

[@wesleybaugh4756]

"Crowe leads the Purifier order of the Grey Knights, a group of Space Marines incredibly resistant to the temptations of the Dark Gods. In fact, as the head of the Purifiers, Crowe is thought to be all but immune to the corruption of Chaos"GW. Great example too and IDK why not all GK have demon weapons and badass stuff. If they can't get corrupted, it would add so much more depth to them.

[@TheWarmachine375]

0:58 Man-Emperor of Mankind: *"DAMMIT MAGNUS! YOU'RE IN FOR A SPANKING, YOUNG MAN!"*

[@xenostim]

Some (not useful for your case) synonyms for Chaos: The Primordial Annihilator, The Primordial Truth. Terms used by the Eldar and the Word Bearers, respectively. And just for fun, synonyms for the warp: The Impyrean, The Immatereum, Sea of Souls, Realm of Chaos Gregor Eisenhorn does definitely question whether or not he is being or has been corrupted, I believe stemming all the way back to when he took out the Chaos titan. But that means that he probably isn't corrupted, or at least not very much so. In the Ravenor series though it is implied that he is quite corrupted and he is basically a fugitive from the Inquisition. But it is left up to mystery and the only time he shows up he warns Ravenor about the future birth of a demon so personally I kinda feel like he is still mostly uncorrupted. Looking forward to reading the Bequin series next.

[@danielwells1734]

Chaos is like getting into politics; even if you start out with noble ideals, sooner or later, you will become corrupted by it.

[@TobbeTokKul97]

If you read the Eisenhorn trilogy and walked away with that Eisenhorn was uncorrupted, you clearly weren't paying attention. Chaos isn't always obvious and with Eisenhorn it was slowly corrupting him over a long time pushing his chaos use further and further until finally by the end of the third book he's become a man so compromised that book 1 Eisenhorn would have shot him without a second thought.

[@fbi9009]

fight fire with fire is in reference to fire-power, as in guns with guns. however fire fighters do actually use fire to fight fires, usually when fighting forest fires they'll burn part ahead of the fire to prevent the larger flame from using it as fuel and to slow the inferno.

[@TheAnon03]

Eisenhorn was being corrupted (haven't read any of the series past the Ravenor trilogy myself) but being corrupted and having been corrupted aren't the same thing. He did some great things but it always ends in a bad place unless something ends you early.

[@mauricioabastoflorfranco9201]

In fact, firefighting does use fire to create buffer burnt zones in forest fires, so this zones don't catch fire again. Yes, they use flamethrowers.

[@elitemook4234]

Technically aren't the living saints just Emperor demons?

[@DVAcme]

(sound of a Commissar taking the safety off his Bolt Pistol)

[@wastedviking6280]

Not technically, they are demons

[@murakyo79]

Warp ≠ Chaos The big E as a psyker uses the warp but obviously he's not using chaos

[@scottdodge6979]

same concept, they are essentially extensions of Big E's will manifest but since they are not "chaos spawn" they are not really considered demons.

[@wastedviking6280]

@@murakyo79 Chaos is made of "Warp stuff" The exact same stuff he's using >.>. The warp is just the reflection of the materium.

[@rbi4espin]

Wildland firefighters actually do fight fire with fire and do walk around with flame throwers.

[@benvacco8997]

Chaos isn’t a weapon… chaos… is a ladder.

[@muridtahmatgnas2184]

Sounds very heretical to me

[@loneal627]

Quote. Needs more likes

[@kalebb1226]

I think the Emporer would agree

[@darrenwang8879]

From Littlefinger.

[@AbsolutionArmament]

Certain times firefighters do fight fire with fire. It's called backfires in forestry. Basically the start a fire to where the oncoming fire has no fuel to burn. Similar in idea to a firebreak.

[@Caulderain]

There was also the Tuchulcha engine which the Lion used in the Horus Hear-say to end the Thramas Crusade (effectively destroying the Night Lords as a single Legion), get to Macragge (Finds out Big E is alive after Vietnaming the North of Macragge) and then proceed to do fuck all with it.

[@BIGBOSS-bu1jt]

thats the lion for you *Seinfeild music plays*

[@starlightdragon2665]

There is a way to fight chaos with chaos; its called deception. The Imperium has a form of assassin called a Vanus Assassin; information is one of the deadliest weapons in war, because the right knowledge at the right place and time can kill more people than grand strategies ever will. If you want Chaos to start fighting Chaos; a Vanus can tip off a Chaos Warlord that a Rival is secretly planning to one up them, then all you have to do is sit back and watch Chaos turn into a blood bath as its own forces turn on each other in fury. Because warlords are so furiously dedicated to themselves; the mere idea of a Rival getting a one up is enough to send most lords over the edge, with only the most calculated and cunning able to collect themselves after a slaughter.

[@StevDoesBigJumps]

I can easily the axe of morkai being wholly content with being used by anyone swinging it, as long as blood is flowing, and I guess dust is blowing.

[@venkelos6996]

I still love Grey Knights, but I do seem to recall one of their characters wielding a legi Daemon sword. I think he refrained from invoking its powers, and mostly just carried it around, letting his Grey Knights hax allow him to resist falling to its control, but he used to be a thing, if not still.

[@colbywalsh4193]

Fun fact, fire fighters do actually fight fires with fires during wildfires. Using a controlled burn, u burn out a line so the fire wouldn’t have any extra fuel to.burn so it burns itself out before expanding even more

[@chesneytube1]

Actually you do see firefighters with drip torches, burning off all of the flammable material in advance so that if a large uncontrollable fire comes through, it finds nothing to burn.

[@lightninggamereviews]

The term comes from firefighters who fight forest fires. They strategically burn a section of forest so when the forest fire gets there, it burns itself out.

[@LordyT34]

I see it the same way I see using the Dark Side of the force for good. Chaos is a living thing and it's not just gonna let itself be used willy nilly.

[@TMHedgehog]

In the case of forest fires, sometimes, fire is fought with fire! Controlled burns of large sections of a forest may be initiated to cut off the supply of fuel to a much larger, much more dangerous fire!

[@lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312]

Forest Fire Fighters actually do controlled burns before fire season hits. It gets some of the dead dry stuff out of there and it creates a barrier of death that a wild fire will have problems crossing iirc.

[@Erzkreutz]

i wish gw would write some kind of crixos origins books. had goosebumps whenever he came up during the eisenhorn book.

[@aldrickfondracul9297]

Majorkill: "Using fire to put out a fire seems kinda counter-intuitive. Like, you don't see firefighters walking around with flamethrowers." Firefighters: "Hold my controlled burn."

[@Mister-Thirteen]

fun fact: You do in fact fight fire with fire. By setting controlled burns in high risk areas and in the path of existing fires to stop the spread.

[@dalegribble7939]

0:14 it actually does happen with her big wildfires basically what they do is they set controlled fires to burn down everything that is dry in an area to keep a out of control fire from getting out of a specific area

[@Ev0ltion]

0:12 there actually is a technique of fighting fire with fire sometimes firefighters create smaller fires to burn out grasses or trees in controlled way while fighting a giant forest fires. The purpose is to use smaller fire to create land without fuel for bigger one so it will die out.

[@marcwittkowski5146]

AKSHUALLY firefighter DO use fire to fight fire sometimes. I'm surprised an Aussie doesn't know that, since it is common to rob wildfires of their fuel by burning off the shrubbery in its bath in a controlled fashion. Also: You forgot Castellan Crowe.

[@ecclesiaandune687]

Was just making lunch and thought hmm I wish there was an MK vid to listen to Based

[@cesarpallincourt9987]

Of course it can be done, if it couldn’t nobody would do it and Chaos would miss out on perfectly good pawns. By letting a few go scott’s free they attract far more damned souls.

[@6shnuggle6]

There was a video by another that looked into this theory with Grimnar. He protected the people of Fenris 100% until he got his axe. After a choas invasion allowed those Fenrisions who had witnessed chaos to be culled by the Imperium. (edit) This dropped their supply of future marines in an insane way as the whole planet was attacked. Lucky for the wolves they ended up with Primirous (?) marines' later.

[@bonanlin4972]

0:11 "You don't see firefighters walking around with flamethrowers" Everyone who's read Fahrenheit 451:

[@Maehedrose]

'Counter fires/Backburns' are often used to control massive fires, and at high-enough temperatures water dumped onto a fire will actually evaporate into it's component parts and the oxygen in the water will fuel the fire. Crazy stuff.

[@annaleas2091]

back-burning is used all the time to fight wildland fires. Its a burned-out area creating a buffer zone where the wildfire would be starved of fuel and cannot pass. A fire break.

[@Euruzilys]

6:12 He did it ‘for the greater good’? That sounds like heresy to me!

[@Philtopy]

„Fight fire with fire“ means that you should take away the material a big fire threatens, by burning it with smaller, controllable fires.

[@cp1cupcake]

"Imagine the Warp as an ocean; Chaos would be the Dead Sea, a small part of the total" .....The Dead Sea is a lake; its not part of an ocean.

[@DocWolph]

So was the Aral Sea. Really a Sea can be large Lake if so named, much as the Great Lakes in America were to be called seas, but the map makers thought differently of it. The Dead Sea is a sea, which is also aided by being salt water. Or is it "water salt" at this point?

[@ryokajimosensei2780]

That's why TTS magnus acknowledges chaos, they can be useful at times

[@jonnybridin]

Or just send Kaldor Draigo if you don't want to use Chaos to beat chaos.

[@lordlucius1341]

A Primarch: becomes corrupted by the daemon inside Grimnar: wields an axe of khorne while upgrading enough to banish Magnus

[@DeltaCain13]

0:03 ...but you do understand the science of using fire to put out a fire right? You're creating a larger fire to snuff the oxygen of the smaller fire. There's also the tactic of use fire to burn an area away to prevent the greater fire from spreading, in which case you might actually see a firefighter with a flamethrower controllably burning the area outside of a wildfire so that it has no fuel to spread anymore and it dies.

[@guscampbell3221]

fire fighters do indeed walk around with flame throwers of sorts when starting a back burn for a forest of field fire, more like dripper but hey they fight fire with fire

[@ditolove5240]

Actually in the first world war, the first flametrooper troops used by the Germans Empire were former firefighters.

[@TheMagicianLiam]

Bro you're an Aussie. We literally fight fire with fire. Back burning. But yeah, love you're work dude.

[@thelastvoidknight3894]

There's also the blood drinkers who regularly conduct a demonic ritual to resist the red thirst.

[@robertoflores4876]

Eisenhorn is still a good guy as of the last Bequin book. He’s being hunted by Ravenor and they kind of have an uneasy truce to stop The Yellow King.

[@connorschulze-baldwin7960]

Here in Canada, we do fight fire with fire.We make big cuts in our tree line to stop the fire that we light from spreading.And then we light a fire that burns towards the fire were trying to put out to burn all of the fuel in front of it before it gets there and gets out of control

[@smileythebong4678]

wild fires are fought with a flame drip wich is a flame thrower that pisses fire

[@roxanasimion1989]

You remember stuff from the Eisenhorn books I completely forgot. Awesome insight

[@Gat720Dua]

So far it sounds like Gregor is the best example and one I want to see more of.

[@JonJon-nt1wy]

yes you do see firefighters with flame throwers. fighting fire with fire is probaly the oldest technique.

[@nairbttenneb]

MajorKill: post a new video My brain: All stations! Prepare for a better mood!

[@justshane9027]

2:18 is that boy i spy? Dadornable would be proud of how grown up he is now

[@tempestvenator9809]

I think a quote that was used in X-com Enemy Within would work best here; "Those who play with the toys of the Devil, are soon to carry his sword." Or something like that.

[@Kcitz_]

“You don’t see firefighters walking around with flame throwers to prevent fires” MajorKill there is a thing called a controlled burn where a part of a place is burned as a precaution

[@animemanXLK]

Back when I still played properly (3rd to late 4th edition) there was a chapter who used daemonic weapons to battle chaos and could take things like daemon weapons from the chaos wargear list. This was mainly represently by weapons that you'd have to roll for each turn and on a 1 you'd have to pass leadership test or the bearer would suffer a wound with or without a saving throw.

[@nyallleary1643]

there are actually cases of fire fighters using fire against fire to put out fires, its something to do with exusting the fires oxygen supply

[@soffren]

Well, I've wanted a MajorKillTeam for a while now. Seems like time!

[@xJuiceNationx]

You can fight fire with fire to do a control burn and limit the real fire from growing uncontrollably. Respectfully

[@Ottakazi]

You should do a video of zenos using chaos and getting away with it! Farsight is a pretty great example

[@gipsydanger5802]

Last time i was this early Horus was still loyal

[@hinglemcringledoo4837]

Your bit on fire was gold lmao

[@emperorofmankindthecorpsgo7059]

Good work Custodian