Make a Native Flatbow of the Algonquin

Part 1 of 2 of how to make Indigenous Algonquin self bow video
This Canada Day, I decided to make an aboriginal archery bow of the area I live in (Ontario, North America).
For Part 2 of 2: • 90lb Flatbow Plant Str...
I harvested the Canadian maple wood board from a sawmill near Algonquin park, and for my first testings after tillering, the bow turned out to be 94lb@26". This is likely too heavy to be a historical native bow in my opinion, so in part 2 I'll shave some weight off and finish it. As a novice bowyer, I'd rather get a slightly shorter draw length than breaking it.
Due to the heavy draw weight, I think the manila hemp plant fiber string I have is not strong enough. Historically the Algonquin natives before the arrival of the Europeans would have used dogbane, sinew, or rawhide for example, based on what we know from the native Americans of the Eastern Woodlands. The finishing would be of animal fat and due to the region's humidity, sinew backing is not preferred.
The archery technique they typically used was a tertiary Algonquin pinch draw, which usually used nockless arrows and is limited in draw weight.
History of Algonquin natives (from Wikipedia):
Algonquin people are an Indigenous people of Eastern Canada. They speak the Algonquin language, a divergent dialect of the Ojibwe language, which is part of the Algonquian language family.[1] Culturally and linguistically, they are closely related to the Odawa, Potawatomi, Ojibwe, and Oji-Cree, with whom they form the larger Anicinàpe (Anishinaabeg). The Algonquin people call themselves Omàmiwinini (plural: Omàmiwininiwak) or the more generalised name of Anicinàpe.
Though known by several names in the past, such as Algoumequin (at the time of Samuel de Champlain), the most common term "Algonquin" has been suggested to derive from the Maliseet word elakómkwik (IPA: [ɛlæˈɡomoɡwik]): "they are our relatives/allies".[2][3] The much larger heterogeneous group of Algonquian-speaking peoples, who, according to Brian Conwell, stretch from Virginia to the Rocky Mountains and north to Hudson Bay, was named after the tribe.
Most Algonquins live in Quebec. The nine Algonquin bands in that province and one in Ontario have a combined population of about 11,000. The Algonquin are original natives of southern Quebec and eastern Ontario in Canada. Today they live in nine communities in Quebec and one in Ontario. The Algonquin were a small tribe that also lives in northern Michigan and southern Quebec and eastern Ontario. Traditionally, the Algonquins were practitioners of Midewiwin (the right path). They believed they were surrounded by many manitòk or spirits in the natural world. French missionaries converted many Algonquins to Catholicism in the 17th and 18th centuries. Today, many of the people practice traditional Midewiwin or a syncretic merging of Christianity and Midewiwin.
In the earliest oral history, the Algonquins say they migrated from the Atlantic coast. Together with other Anicinàpek, they arrived at the "First Stopping Place" near Montreal. While the other Anicinàpe peoples continued their journey up the St. Lawrence River, the Algonquins settled along the Kitcisìpi (Ottawa River), a long-important highway for commerce, cultural exchange and transportation. Algonquin identity, though, was not fully realized until after the dividing of the Anicinàpek at the "Third Stopping Place". Scholars have used the oral histories, archeology, and linguistics to estimate this took place about 2000 years ago, near present-day Detroit.
After contact with the Europeans, especially the French and Dutch, the Algonquin nations became active in the fur trade. This led them to fight against the powerful Iroquois, whose confederacy was based in present-day New York. In 1570, the Algonquins formed an alliance with the Montagnais to the east, whose territory extended to the ocean.
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[@HistoricalWeapons]

part 2 of video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnmTlZxjqrdrh5Y

[@Tystros]

are you sure that "historically" they primarily used lower draw weights than 100#? Are there sources for that? I don't know anything about native American bows, but I'd find it hard to believe that they didn't use 100# bows. I'm sure they used bows for hunting and also for warfare, right? As far as I know Canada is often quite cold, so bows would need to shoot through thick layers of (probably leather) clothing. And I also think there's quite big animals in Canada. I don't think people would go to hunt some moose or bear with a 50# bow if they could also use a 100# bow. I know most people who do hunting with bows nowadays use 70# compound bows, and a flatbow with equivalent power would probably be at least a 120# bow. So if I'd be you, I'd keep the bow at this weight you have now and not shave it down any further.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

@@Tystros i think the average historical weight is below 100 pounds. I don't know what number but it can be inferred from the algonquin tertiary draw, which is a pinch draw. from my tests with the pinch draw i cannot pull 100 pounds even with tertiary pinch draw. that being said, im sure some used other draw styles for heavier bows, but on average i dont think they were that heavy. keep in mind of string limitations, they did not have synthetic strings

[@markdennis254]

use fat

[@andrewweber9935]

@@Tystros The guys using modern 70lb bows do so to maximize arrow speed and to shoot flatter and therefore farther. A 50lb bow has no problem sending an arrow through something made of meat, especially with the heavier arrows in common use back then.

[@epicyea3168]

sinew back it

[@skyrimJava]

nice to see wood bows

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Yes, thanks

[@sitrilko]

I have a feeling Jack has a thing for bows that may or may not be dangerous to draw.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i have a thing for heavy bows

[@wolfmoon4753]

Our warriors shot up to 20 arrows by the time 1st one flew. My uncle once showed me how fast he could shoot his arrows, all organic materials, but I was amazed at the 12 arrows in about 5 seconds and he was in his late 40s. Incredibly fit. Amazing accuracy too. A master hunter tracker and walking with the ancestors now. Carry on buddy! I'm Anishinabemowin from north Turtle Island.

[@colincampo9194]

no offense but there's no way he shot 12 arrows in 5 seconds🤣 that's over 2 arrows for per second you gotta post a vid bc if that's true man needs a spot in the world record book

[@alexyatsyuk70]

The fastest time to shoot 10 arrows is 39.53 seconds, and was achieved by Casey Wilhelm (USA), in Springfield, Missouri, USA, on 7 September 2023. Casey's background is in mounted (horseback) archery and he trains for speed and accuracy.

[@alexyatsyuk70]

was it an indion second or mathematically proven?

[@junglejim7664]

Stinging nettles have the strongest natural fibers and were used for cordage. I know there are nettles in your area and I'd encourage you to try them for bow strings. Also, there is no advantage to using a heavy weight bow in a forest setting with common wood arrows. While willow shoots were used for shafts, many preferred using shafts split out of seasoned cedar logs. Arrows from either material are quite light but also perfectly functional at woods ranges with stone points. A bow half the weight of yours would be far more typical and would not be a hinderance in hunting or warfare.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i agree there is no advantage except "showing off" a warriors strength

[@Pantouflable]

satisfying to watch, the bow looks powerful!

[@HistoricalWeapons]

thanks

[@TroyArmstrong]

gut string or get yourself few squirrels and do raw hide string I like this bow it's very nice check how fast the arrow 40 at 32 will be awesome this bow is going to be fast I think

[@HistoricalWeapons]

thank you, im aiming for 60-70lbs because my personal preference to heavy bows, and it is concievable that some native bows were that draw weight. do you think the rawhide is strong enough?

[@TroyArmstrong]

@@HistoricalWeapons both types of strings are very strong just make sure that you do them correctly and have them dry enough so they won't stretch on you . I watch your channel all the time and I know your a pro but no harm for sharing you need to materialize the handle on the bow, know exactly how long you want it to be then take your time, you have to be very patient as you know already. I think you need to do the work on the belly of the "lower" limb, then when you move to the upper limb, have the curve/bend far from the grip/handle. don't work both limbs close to the handle shaving them to have a "bend" let the lower limb have the bend right next to the handle and the upper will start to have the bend below the Knoke close to the center. having this balance is not easy but it is achievable All the best

[@ilcignoeilgrifone]

you can also change grip with that type of bows, often the natives did not stretch everything but opened just enough to let the arrow slip away from the fingers, in fact often the grip on the string they used allowed to stretch a little ... but it was so interesting little to have a very high reach

[@wrongturnarchery2337]

Love it best filling ever to put the string on an loose the first flight isn't it very well dun

[@Intranetusa]

Nice to see you getting into bow making. Now you can make your own prod for your historical ancient Chinese crossbow!

[@Not-Just-Cars]

im working on it..i hope you will enjoy the 3rd chinese crossbow btw, but i didnt make the prod

[@Not-Just-Cars]

fixed grammar

[@Intranetusa]

@@Not-Just-Cars I'll be looking forward to your 3rd Chinese crossbow video, regardless of where the prod came from. :D

[@markdennis254]

nice video

[@karlozupan8881]

Awesome, looking forward to second part!

[@rshaart4810]

I'd love to see the measurements for the bow, wouldn't mind having a go at making one in the future, keen to see more from this

[@beesmongeese2978]

Great video! I love Eastern Woodlands style bows with the sleek profiles. Have you had issues with spine with such a wide handle?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

it wobbles a bit but I picked stiff enough arrows for those. when i shave the draw weight down i will shave the handle too

[@jzjzjzj]

how did you cut the wood to make the stave i cant figure out how the grain should be

[@dsasd778]

Straight grain I think

[@dsasd778]

Use a saw

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i used a circular saw because i was lazy . i might explore stone tools in the future but im not competent in that field. you can use a belt sander to start rounded the edges and shaving rough material before using hand tools. saves time

[@jzjzjzj]

@@HistoricalWeapons thanks 👍

[@jzjzjzj]

if you try to bend the bow and it wants to crack does removing the material make it less likely to?

[@eloyrodriguez6562]

Howdy from Corpus Christi Texas. Outstanding video 👍 👍

[@andrewsock6203]

The hemp string you are using is much stronger when wet that is why it’s used for boats. Maybe soaking the string before use would help. Nettle fibres are also used for strings and I’m sure it’s plentiful near you. I think the natives draw was different than you are doing. The natives draw to the centre of their chest so that makes a short draw, a short arrow and a nipple anchor point. When I use the nipple anchor point I find it much easier to do the pinch draw. It’s like shooting from the hip sort of. I don’t think the Natives look down the arrow as the arrow was nipple height.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

interesting, why is it stronger when wet? ill try the nipple anchor point, but not with 94lbs. i was merely using a med draw for the weight, ive attempted the tertiary pinch draw but cannot pull that weight

[@andrewsock6203]

@@HistoricalWeapons if you draw to your nipple it won’t be 90lbs. Usually if you draw a native bow past centre of chest it will break. So you want a stiff bow for that short draw. Also if you pinch draw it is easy to hold low at chest with elbow down. Just try a dry run right now and you can see the pinch is a more awkward position at head height. You can pinch harder at shoulder or chest height. Pinch draw is even easier yet if you hold the bow more horizontally and low. ( 40*-45*) I think hemp is stronger when wet because the fibres lock together better when wet. Maybe it swells and tightens the twist so it becomes tighter on itself. If you twist the string too much it may weaken it so I would suggest a bowyers knot so you can tighten it without over twisting. The natives snap shoot so that also makes it a bit easier to use pinch draw. Also the natives shoot from a sort of crouched stalking position which makes for a shorter draw or reason to draw to the sternum or tit nipple area. Instead of string hand touching your mouth, ear or jaw you should touch your sternum or nipple for anchor point. It’s a whole new aiming method so prepare to lose some arrows behind the target. 26” draw is good, don’t make it draw longer. I also saw in the comments you were talking about attempting one with stone tools but feel inexperienced. The stone method is no different than the file and cabinet scraper. You should get or make a cabinet scraper. You can make one by taking a bit of sheet steel and using a wrench handle or hardened tool to create a burr on the edge by trying to slice the wrench with the corner of the edge. This is the most useful bow making tool you can have. Stone tools just slow the process by 100% Regarding the pinch draw , I have also seen and herd of bulbous arrow nocks that aid in pinch draw. Just a few wraps of reinforcing thread can help grip and traction on the arrow. The tips of first and second fingers also pull on the string with most pinch draw styles. And you can use the two or three finger string draw with chest anchor. That’s what I have done because I too can not pinch draw 40 lbs. those people had strong pinch.

[@andrewsock6203]

And there is a few kinds of dogbane where you live but I think stinging nettle is better. I’ve also herd of fur or spruce roots being used but I have never been successful with it as you need the perfect roots to start with.

[@tonymaurice4157]

@@HistoricalWeapons God bless you

[@monsieurcommissaire1628]

Good show, I love the simplicity of this bow. I'm going to make my own bows as my entry into archery, kind of like how Jedi construct their own lightsabers as part of their training. Making one's own weapons, instruments and tools gives you a deeper understanding of what you are using, and it's highly practical to gain such knowledge. Keep up the great work, and try to ignore the naysaying gatekeeper types who don't knoww how to make anything and are too lazy or busy being keyboard "warriors" to try.

[@stevencunningham4680]

Great job on the bow. I noticed when the string broke that you have a little bit of set or string follow in the bow. That's easily fixed by heat treating the belly of the bow. I just finished a red oak bow and did the heat treatment on it. I set the handle of the bow on about a 4" high box then weighted the ends of the limbs with an axe head (minus the handle). Then heated the limbs to a light brown. That cured the string follow.

[@wrongturnarchery2337]

Seeing that bow reminds me of my first 3 bows I ever made string an all you can take the old ringer tipe washing machine rollers an green hemp stocks put thim through the rollers an make grate bow string fibers bub

[@DK-Effective-Living]

I'm not even really interested in archery, but the passion in these videos is contagious

[@jackvoss5841]

Good on you! As we look at how our forebears lived, and learn to do some of the skills they had, we draw near to them, learn from them, and gain respect for them. And, gain in our self-respect too. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@gizmonomono]

Well done, man. Can't vait to see it when it's finished. Is that wide grip comfortable to use?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

it's meh, relative to other warbows, they are about the same

[@carpenter155]

This is most likely what the Ojibwa carried as well. Very well done, going to make one myself. Chi Migwetch noos!

[@HistoricalWeapons]

nice! this one for sale btw

[@carpenter155]

@@HistoricalWeapons you don’t say

[@remschwz9374]

Wow, sound so fast, congratulation, that's a goood bow for sure

[@PigeonDumplins]

Enjoyed this! I’m an indigenous bow maker in Oklahoma, a story I like to quote when mentioning the strength of Cherokee bows is the de Soto chronicles story of his group forcing a young Cherokee (not the best archer in the village might I add) to demonstrate his archery skills. Aside form being unable to pull back the bow, hernán de Soto was thoroughly impressed with the effectiveness that river cane arrows ploughed through their mail armor. In my opinion based on what I’ve read and have been taught by elders I know southeastern natives generally used 2 types of bows (hunting/war) and that war bows could easily surpass 80# to 100#, and that hunting bows followed ranging from small game bows used by youth for small game/fish (25#-45#) to nearly warbows used to hunt bear, deer, cougars etc. which averaged 50-75#

[@HistoricalWeapons]

thanks for your knowledge share!

[@MessengersoftheCross]

Thank you so much for sharing this. Very informative. Please keep us up on your experiences and discoveries. 🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@gobarb]

Sounds of shot very nice. Need to see an enerfy of this bow.

[@patrickhooker5697]

Your great I have asked this question about local native bow making for 35 years . Thanks

[@DironMc]

Nice , Simple, Powerfull, and Fast bow!🤩

[@johnjriggsarchery2457]

That's crazy impressive!

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Thanks!

[@lianghaochen]

Very nice! How did you treat the wood before working on it?

[@Not-Just-Cars]

i cut it with a circular saw from a maple board and then grinded down with an angle grinder for the rough shape

[@Not-Just-Cars]

cannot imagine how much work stone tools would be

[@williamjhunter5714]

Great bow, I also use Abaca on my bows and it goes through a stretch in phase every time. I counted and I usually end up twisting the string 30 times. Abaca is sold in many different grades. Yours was very course. Try finding the EF fine grade. I have never had an Abaca string break after carefully selecting 2mm fine cords and building them together into a string. Usually 13-16 of those 2mm cords together. Try resizing your string, shortening it. It's more work but when overtwisted, it will cut itself.

[@vikingraider58]

I have meddled in making some self bows out of red oak - thing is, even with fiberglass backing, they have broken. How are you doing it without backing? Kinda want to try this

[@langdavid6852]

Oak is shit

[@HistoricalWeapons]

yes some of my earliest bows are red oak, they seem to be unreliable

[@dsasd778]

Nice

[@davidthesparky]

Awesome video! Thank you for making it

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Glad you liked it!

[@davidthesparky]

Have you ever built a Comanche style short bow? I believe that’s what Lars Andersen shoots with.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

@@davidthesparky no i havent

[@colintilbrook]

draw knifing is so satisfying

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Yeah just difficult with one hand holding the camera

[@TheAca300]

excellent video!! love it! I expected it would be longer but even with this length it's more than amazing!

[@WaynesGoneWild]

Its looking good. After the string broke it looked like the bow had taken on some set, did that straighten out after it was unstrung?

[@b0lobattali0n78]

Dude that thing sounds like it’s thumping hard!

[@nathanpattee1629]

Beautiful

[@Tystros]

I don't know if maybe someone else had the idea before, but I recently had an idea for how to get carbon arrows with a stiffer spine. It's so simple! Just buy a carbon shaft with the same outer diameter as your carbon arrow has inner diameter, and put that carbon shaft into the arrow. That hugely stiffens the arrow. I tested it and measured it to see how well exactly it works: I took a Gold Tip Traditional arrow, in spine 340, which is the stiffest they have. I really like the design of the gold tip traditional, since they look like wood, but unfortunately, they aren't available in anything stiffer than 340. Then I put a "BEARPAW Penthalon Slim Line" spine 500 carbon shaft inside. I measured how much stiffer the arrow became from that, and the result is that the Gold Tip Traditional, which usually has a spine of 340, now has a spine of 227. Big difference! And the carbon shaft inside the arrow adds 7.5 gpi weight too, so that's another bonus. If you'd start with a 250 spine carbon arrow, the result would be a ~165 spine arrow with this. And then one can of course still put salt or iron powder inside if more weight is needed. Perfect carbon arrows for heavy bows! :)

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i guess that works, the whole point i use carbon is to save money but it appears ur method is too expensive for me. thats why i jam things that are almost free like salt or string or bamboo skwers

[@Tystros]

​@@HistoricalWeapons Well, iron powder is same cheap like salt, its like 0.50 USD per arrow or so. Carbon shafts do cost money, but you can probably buy a fitting carbon shaft for less than 5 USD. So it adds 5 USD per arrow, that's not much. Overall it still ends up way cheaper than wooden warbow arrows. Especially if you factor in that wooden arrows are more likely to break, while a carbon arrow with an extra carbon shaft inside is probably quite indestructible. As I mentioned before, my reason for doing this with carbon arrows is also just to save money.

[@jackm2293]

That's brilliant! Nice one man! :)

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Thanks a lot!

[@andkonblack]

nice vids mate

[@user-em8hp9ck7w]

A nice bow!

[@viktordickinson7844]

Really cool video with some good research behind it. I would love to try this, but i'm more of a long pointy stick kind of guy

[@beepboop204]

love your content bro

[@sherrattpemberton6089]

Sick bow. Ernest Gendron regularly makes short Cree and Nadooka bows in the 90-100lbs range. So that draw weight is totally reasonable. There survival often depended on a good, stout bow after all

[@branni6538]

Now that's a nice bow! Draw weight is insane though...........lol.......... maybe drop it 20-30# then you can shoot all day. Great job on the plant fibres string. Shooting 90#+ on plant fibres is impressive stuff. I use nettle strings but not for that draw weight ............nettle fibre is strong enough to do it though........... Great work all round but watch your shoulders with those draw weights..............in 20-30 years you will feel the effects of it.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Nice. I like heavy bows personally that’s why I lean towards the heavy side

[@mzza]

Plant fibers tend to be really inflexible. The twist on that string probably just took its time to get real snug.

[@AllenOxendine]

Thanks for sharing. I’m attempting g to make a board bow from poplar. My first bow broke while I was testing the pull. My second attempt is going nice, I’m afraid it may break

[@zoranpavlovic9540]

Similar bow(s) but with higher brace height was shot in the scenes of Black Robe movie by Algonquines (Abenaki) unlike Mohawks represented with kind of Penobscot bows. One of most historically accurate movies, must watch (Canada/New Zealand production). Well researched, Jack 👍🥇🏹

[@catharsis8338]

sick, looking good

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@johnny96888]

Bow looks like it shoots fast!

[@fredmatthews1970]

Just curious, where you taught by an elder to make this style of bow? There are teachings associated with making bows that you need to offer protocol for.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i was taught by a local bowmaker in ottawa, i am unsure about his background but he makes native flatbows

[@Zwerchhau]

Would they have made the string out of sinew originally?

[@TL_27]

Im too scared to use my sinue strings. Do you really think it can hold 35pounds?

[@blainehillis1921]

Actually 94lbs is about accurate for Eastern woodland bows. Many European explorers (english,French, Spanish) all made comments regarding the immense draw weight of native bows remarking they couldn’t pull them to the face. Much to our delight and humor. Indian bows in the southeast were even capable of piercing chain mail.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

did u check part 2

[@troyansxd6286]

i love bows

[@manueltrevino4273]

Think it’s funny when I see in text books that natives had 25-30 pound bows but every time some one makes one it’s way more

[@lusolad]

Please profile more native bows.

[@ndubstar]

Is this a red maple or another variety? Could you list the dimensions? Thanks.

[@bozzskaggs112]

You didn't chase the grain on the back?

[@blainehillis1921]

BRO NICE 🔥

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Thanks 🔥

[@Coen_Shoots_dsht]

Wicked!!!

[@jeremysyliboy5857]

I use stripe maple 🍁 here in nova scotia 😊

[@yes-id6od]

nice

[@bloodndestroy]

How long did it take you to make this bow?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

a week

[@AW-hg3pc]

perhaps a noob question but why flatbows in america? in alot of europe longbow shapes have been popular throughout history. The norse had them, some prehistoric finds had them. the D shape would seem easier to make. Part of why the longbow was favored my armies was the ease of production especially in higher draws

[@HistoricalWeapons]

america includes north and south america and has a huge varity of bow designs

[@umberonxd]

was the wood from Murry Brothers Lumber Company?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

no

[@abusethisaccount9633]

Awesome man! I’m gonna build one for sure! Thanks for the inspiration!

[@dingdong4156]

Wow

[@marcstlouis1485]

You did well with that bow. The handle is stiff enough that you could narrow it down a bit which will let the handle work a bit and consequently not have as much paradox

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Thanks Marc, agreed for better shooting, just worried it break. id rather have an inaccurate than a broken bow haha

[@-_-hi8964]

Dude was this filmed near Barrie?

[@carlosalejandro1997]

The trick with new strings. As you make the string. Half way through the process. When ypu have enough to stretch with both hands. If it stretches. You'll have you stretch it. Just bees wax the shit out of it. And string your bow to draw length. Depending on the material It should instantly should shrink but be tight. Let it sit over night. Next day. Re string it to brace height and repeat until the string doesn't stretch anymore, and remains at draw length overnight. That's just my personal way of doing it

[@carlosalejandro1997]

And read into native style shooting. There's stories europeans Writingd of natives drawing back to ear with bows taller than the were. Bows able to pierce European armor.

[@Smitty-tc4ni]

Nice job! Are you from Golden Lake area?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

im not

[@nathanpattee1629]

The natives used rawhide strings. The northeast is not that humid to bother it . I live there. I've made rawhide bowstrings,thay work great.

[@matthewmaxcy1574]

So if oral history is true in wich it usually is than they are a relative branch of our people the M'ikmaq/Migmaw

[@HistoricalWeapons]

yes

[@matthewmaxcy1574]

@@HistoricalWeapons very cool.

[@fatboy8420]

wow

[@paradox_1729]

Hey man, did you consult any Algonquin elders before calling this an Algonquin bow?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i tried. non actually know how to make, of the ones i talked

[@paradox_1729]

@@HistoricalWeapons They do know how to make them. But they dont usually share it people from outside their community because of videos like this.

[@markmendoza7459]

For the first time it ternd out real good , get some good bow string ,and señue the bow so it doesn't crack on the lim

[@dr.lexwinter8604]

What you have there is a D sectioned English war bow miniature. Stone age peoples used flat bows, they were a literal I shape in cross section, not D. Their power was pretty laughable, but it was mostly for hunting and detering other humans from your territory.

[@markdennis254]

his cross section is pretty flat, there is a slight crown but im sure there was variation in native bows, nothing is perfectly flat

[@markdennis254]

english warbow looks completely different, its rounded like a broom handle man

[@davidsalman8362]

it's longer than most Horsebows, why can't you pull it above 28"?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

wood not composite

[@davidsalman8362]

@@HistoricalWeapons is it possible to make a composite one backed with different natural and synthetic layers? and can be Drawn past 28"? The exact same bow measurements, that would be interesting

[@poopedpant694]

If you sold these. i would buy one

[@HistoricalWeapons]

im selling this one. what country u in

[@HistoricalWeapons]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnmTlZxjqrdrh5Y updated

[@phawang37]

did you reupload this?

[@skyrimJava]

he said something about fixing audio, seems fixed now

[@ianuser9650]

nice haircut

[@josecardoso6231]

I make Comanche bow👍✌️🏹🎯

[@yolandacalderin9738]

Bye Bobby Snyder

[@AnthonySell]

Invest in some card scrapers...

[@AnthonySell]

You should also look into their technique, the bow would be quite canted, nearly horizontal, and drawn only to the chest.

[@siberiaacoustic]

Make more Chinese bow

[@HistoricalWeapons]

i dont have the skill right now to make horn sinew bows

[@mustamuri]

✨🏹✨ 👶👏❤️ ( I know how to make strong sinew bow string )

[@jackvoss5841]

If you dress the wood with bacon grease, you’ll need ANOTHER bow to use while defending THIS bow from porcupines, bears, coyotes, etc. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@xiaotian5863]

NICE

[@marcellusbrutus3346]

oh canada

[@HistoricalWeapons]

eh?

[@jeremysyliboy5857]

I am mik maq

[@pyramid_scheme_termination3655]

I think they used 45 pounds. You can’t do running archery and speed shooting with a bow that heavy ya fool

[@HistoricalWeapons]

90@26 is about 50lb@19 inches which is historical native american draw length

[@langdavid6852]

Not bad

[@pyro3446]

You are in the right neighborhood but. string was made from cedar inner bark reverse twist method (you need to prestreach your current string), your arrow are 1-2 inches long (24-26), the poundage is light 90 (125), natives could bend wood with steam and boiling water( or make a green wood bow then season it), natives used a 2 finger draw (3 if you count the finger on the arrow not the string) shoot on the other side of the bow

[@HistoricalWeapons]

when you say the poundage is light, you mean 125lb is the norm?

[@pyro3446]

@@HistoricalWeapons( No) its just a common high weight bow, bows lose strength over time so a 125 pound bow could ed up a 110 or 100 pounds. if you go south during trade or migration season you need a bigger bow for game. if you go west you run in to copper shields, if you stay were you are you sit round the fire you say i can pull a stronger bow then you. a female hunter of the inuit had a bow so strong no one could shoot it but her. But my source is I used to be a Native American Tour guide

[@b.h.abbott-motley2427]

@@pyro3446 I'm not sure which Native nation(s) you mean, but there's considerable textual evidence for powerful bows in the land now claimed as the eastern USA. At various places up & down the coast, English & Spanish observers noted the might of Native bows. These descriptions suggest the better sort of Native warbows had about as high draw weights & similar performance to English warbows. Cabeza de Vaca & Garcilaso de la Vega recounted impressive feats of penetration from Apalachee archers especially.

[@pyro3446]

@@b.h.abbott-motley2427 squamish lilowat inuit Washington state nisga lakota,made bows out of many materials my stepdad made me my first bow he is one of the keepers of the carving tradition, old growth yellow cedar and inner bark string the bow was bent in a wooden box with boiling water. Other bows are built like modern compond bows by drilling the bones and wrapping it in sinew for the bows strength like the inuit. And bending buffalo or deer horn in a geyser if you want a kids or adult bow. I'm sorry a lot o information is lost do to indoctrination

[@pyro3446]

@@b.h.abbott-motley2427 on he east coast they got iron first and alot of hard skin creatures they needed heavy bows and could make them more efficiently with settler tools. But a 180 lbs long bow vs a 160 native bow it would be about the same. The short length of the draw and bow are for stalking in every position in the bush

[@nerhaci2074]

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