Make Dub Techno HAUNT with Noise Elements

[@bahadirhankocer]

Hi everyone, thank you for your patience. The article is finally published, and the URL has been added to the description section. Love!

[@Babyhooligan87]

It's a cool feeling when you meet a soul mate. No one around me listens to dub techno. I became obsessed with this genre...

[@sk8iny0]

I feel you, I feel like dub techno fans are generally just very introverted and sometimes even isolated so you're not very likely to meet them IRL.

[@Babyhooligan87]

@@sk8iny0 Yeah, its true... I felt very comfortable in Covid times :)

[@bahadirhankocer]

I feel you! What was it that first hooked you on dub techno? Was it a particular artist, a track, or maybe just a certain vibe that clicked with you? I’d love to hear the story of how you found this genre and what keeps PULLING you back to it.

[@Babyhooligan87]

@@bahadirhankocer It was in Covid times. KZbin recommended me Fluxion - Vibrant Forms 1. It was in the evening, snow was dancing outside the window, it was very atmospheric. It was an incredible experience. Than i eagerly absorbed all Chain Reaction stuff... after that I became completely obsessed with this genre😊

[@Fabermorrow]

​@@bahadirhankocerFor me it was coming from liking dub reggae as a kid then getting into Techno and realising there was a whole genre that mixed the two!

[@ringsystemmusic]

the phrase “slow cancellation of the future” perfectly encapsulates the current moment, I mean WOW.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Right? Why do we talk about the future? Why do we "cancel" it? And why is this cancellation "slow"? Amid all this, how does music manage to create context? If I’ve made you think about these, I’m glad!

[@TheMelon9106]

What the hell of quality is ruling this channel????????? Amazing.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Mate, that's great to hear. We're still new. Welcome aboard!

[@stolester]

Best channel by far

[@MarkusAudio]

A Book on Dub Techno? Cool! This video is one more reason to cherish my Monotron Delay's noise and distortion 😊 Instant Subscriber.

[@7eventh7ense]

I remember my first experience of basic channel too... special moment in life :)

[@bahadirhankocer]

Fill me in on the story. I want to hear it.

[@pavilionman64]

I totally agree on this, noise introduces this sparkles of imperfection that some electronic music genres lacks, it feels too syntethic, too clean, too digital, too perfect, too cold, and too far from the chaotic yet beauthifully scarry nature. There is a vast and genius ideas to make electronic music feel more alive withous a screen that i would love to try, unfortunately i dont have the resources yet.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Until you have the resources, remember this: listening closely and calmly, breathing in the music, and trying to imagine how it was created are essential parts of critical listening in the production process. Yes, noise evokes a human flaw. Ironically, we’ve achieved crystal-clear recordings, yet now we spend money to add that ’60s tape feel, cassette flutter, and other “retro” elements back into this perfect sound. Maybe we're secretly craving to feel the flaws since we are so. This is exactly the point Mark Fisher was highlighting. Welcome aboard, friend!

[@KidOrjiMusic]

Very interesting. Thank you! I resonate with what you said

[@bahadirhankocer]

Awesome! Let the haunt begin.

[@HortonLawrence]

Fantastic as always, I love your deep explanations on things, noise is so critical and you have nailed down uses and set up the ground work for years of exploration. Thank you for your time and efforts.

[@bahadirhankocer]

It's truly a privilege to share these ideas with you!

[@metamyther]

Fellow Dancecult writer here as well :) Definitely going to check out your book!

[@bahadirhankocer]

@@metamyther Being part of the culture is delightful. I'd love to access and read your article. Maybe I've already read it-who knows? Cheers, fellow!

[@shin_do]

A narrative and thought out approach on the genre is a nice and rare thing .

[@bahadirhankocer]

Lovely! There'll be more.

[@ゆだまん]

やばい動画見つけてしまった、、、i love it!

[@prestonhart6685]

Wow. This is a really great video!

[@bahadirhankocer]

Many thanks for the visit!

[@jacobmarley6781]

Mind Blown. I have been studying electronic music on my own for about 6 years now. I have learned some cool things, but this just made everything come together. My own philosophy of electronic music just gelled in my mind . I now fully get and appreciate dub techno also. Thank you it is a great video with amazing sounds. I really enjoyed this and it was very inspiring. I'm going to go play with sound now. Bye bye.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Hi! It's awesome to hear it clicked. Really. Have fun experimenting with the sound, and hopefully, one day, I'll hear what you produce. Take care, and happy producing.

[@rectangulo2306]

Please please PLEASE give me your dub techno playlist!!!!!! You’ll make me the happiest man on earth

[@bahadirhankocer]

If you use Spotify, I have two different playlists pinned to my artist profile. One is from Pulshar, and the other features compilations from the famous Dub Monitor. I recommend them, but at the same time, there are plenty of users on KZbin who have curated collections of both classics and modern examples through some digging. The discovery process is entirely unique. Enjoy the taste of randomness!

[@hautparlurker]

Dostum kanalın hem prodüksiyon kalitesi, hem de içerik olarak koca youtube'de gördüğüm en dolu müzik kanallarından biri olmuş. Mark Fisher'den girip dub techno'dan çıkmak pek rastlanan bir şey değil bu alemde, muazzam :)

[@bahadirhankocer]

Türkçe bir yorum görmek beni mutlu etti. Güzel sözler için teşekkürler. Niyetim, yıllardır bana yön veren "tuhaf" düşünceleri diğer çılgın insanlarla etkileşime sokmak ve ilk bakışta oldukça çetrefilli görünen akademik meselelerin esasen hayatımızın tam da içinde yaşadığını gözler önüne sermek. Yoksa akademi niçin var?

[@JayCooperX]

Such a rare and niche topic that i love

[@bahadirhankocer]

Thanks for the feedback. There'll be more. Stay tuned and welcome aboard!

[@toi_techno]

Cool vid Dancing in the middle of the Berghain dance floor I finally realised just how many atmospheric noises were in songs I'd dance to for years

[@bahadirhankocer]

I was chatting with a friend today, and I mentioned this comment-it’s really nice to hear. This sound shows up in such intricate ways across multiple genres. The example I gave was pretty simple, but in more advanced mixing styles, the effect gets even stronger. At the end of the day, it’s inspiring to realize just how vast the structure of music really is.

[@bonistik]

Will you ever be covering Demdike Stare? Their dubby music is haunted af.

[@robertgonzalez6664]

This video is blowing my mind, keep up this legendary work

[@bahadirhankocer]

Blissful to hear the video resonated with you-it was a long and complex process to bring it all together. Knowing it connects with you means a lot. New content is on the way soon, so stay tuned!

[@lfakroll]

That first stab sound is so good! And cool sounds overall. I like having one synth layer with just pure noise of some sort with a filter with the cutoff frequency modulated to a random position (as a layer with chords stabs). Probably for the same reason you add that shaker layer, getting some texture in the high end. I'll try experiment with shaker/percussion samples as a layer in my synthstabs in the future, cool idea!

[@bahadirhankocer]

Thank you! Whether it’s tonal or noise-based is entirely up to you. All the techniques here were very simple and at a beginner level, because what I wanted to convey wasn’t how noise can be processed, but rather that noise itself can have functions we don’t typically consider. So feel free to expand on the FX chain. Believe me, there are no rules to this. And absolutely, blending interesting one-shot samples with just echo and reverb creates great ear candy. The best part is the unpredictability. Everything turns into a happy accident.

[@rajeshmirage]

Love your work man

[@bahadirhankocer]

I appreciate that!

[@Eli_B3000]

Excellent content! I'll be using this right away. Subscribed!

[@bahadirhankocer]

Welcome 🎉

[@kaaraosa]

I had written a memoir on music and hauntology back in art school, and the way you explained it is so clear and simple I took notes so that I have an easy reminder for myself haha ! I mean, Spectres of Marx was quite the wild ride for a first dive into the subject... Not the biggest dub techno head here, but that track and the build up of each layer had me rocking back and forth for sure ! Very great insight on noise as well, one can really apply this to various music genres. Also, you guys and girls in Istanbul are gifted with some of the best cafés out there ! Cheers ;))

[@bahadirhankocer]

Hey, man! It’s awesome to come across someone thinking about hauntology. I'd honestly love to see what you've written on it. Thanks for the kind words! My only goal is for these deep academic discussions-often destined to fade into the digital void-to spark some light and inspiration in people’s lives. And really, I want to show just how connected these ideas are to everyday life. If even one listener starts to feel it in their music, that's what I call inspiration!

[@KosmoDeuz]

The Book! Very cool 😎 thank you for supporting the Genre

[@bahadirhankocer]

My pleasure!

[@BearsAudioEmporium]

The work you do and how you explained everything here was wonderful. Thank you for your passion!

[@bahadirhankocer]

My pleasure, and thanks for the kind words!

[@JohnOv3rblast]

excellent presentation, thank you.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Really glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the feedback!

[@the_washington_monument_am9714]

Absolutely brilliant work! Excited to try these wonderful techniques 😊 so glad to have stumbled upon this channel 😊

[@bahadirhankocer]

Glad you're here! More content is on the way.

[@megatubular]

Yes, deep dives into noise and dt ! aferin!

[@bahadirhankocer]

Appreciated ❤️

[@shruthdev]

Absolutely love what you do. Could you show some/explain faster dub techno ?

[@bahadirhankocer]

Thanks a bunch. Looks like this would be a great idea for the next video!

[@shruthdev]

@ looking forward to see this!

[@Vingul]

«Phylyps Trak» by Basic Channel is the all-time greatest fast dub techno track

[@bahadirhankocer]

@@Vingul Classic!

[@itinerantghost]

Love these videos, man! 🎉

[@bahadirhankocer]

More to come, friend!

[@elbowbacon]

S -tier youtube. Thanks for sharing.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Any time!

[@OoraMusic]

Loved this video!

[@bahadirhankocer]

So glad!

[@LaurieLaptop]

Boards of Canada were early pioneers in Hauntology. Checkout “Music Has The Right To Children” 👻

[@VirtualModular]

Brilliant album, but unfortunately that aesthetic has been imitated so much it's become a total cliché. It kind of annoys me now when people get great quality, clean digital recordings, and add fakey tape hiss with an overpriced plugin. I just think it's too easy and lacks imagination. 😉

[@bahadirhankocer]

Every artist expresses their creative energy through their music. Noise, for many, is a place of joy. Of course, each artist brings their own perspective or aesthetic preferences, which can vary-sometimes completely, other times just a little. Boards of Canada is a great example of this. Their approach to noise is really bold. At the same time, they tend to step away a bit from the tonal side of music, which is a pretty daring move. But you're right, it's a wonderful example of hauntology.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Because perfection in humans is unheard of. As humans, we are drawn to those things that are imperfect within digital perfection. It’s no coincidence that simple tape emulators have turned into such a huge market. You’re right, from that perspective, everything makes sense. However, explaining the concept of analog isn't so easy either. I believe noise gains its identity through context, regardless of its nature.

[@slowmo56]

Just picked it up on vinyl the other day. Love that album.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Enjoy!

[@AlexAldorf]

woah! really in depth video man, instantly had to drop a sub! cant wait to see more content from you. 10/10 if you are based in istanbul, is there any chance you might know havantepe? please get him on this channel to make some dub techno content hehe

[@bahadirhankocer]

Hey! Yes, I do travel to Istanbul now and then. I lived there for a while when I was teaching at Bahçeşehir University Conservatory. I know of Havantepe, but we haven’t met yet. Maybe life will bring us together one day. I haven’t tried reaching out to him. Great career!

[@xxsomepeperagez]

This is absolutely wonderful to listen to. Tried recreating the first stab and immediately ran into problems.. Just doesn't sound anywhere near as good

[@bahadirhankocer]

If you describe the issue, I can help you out!

[@xxsomepeperagez]

@bahadirhankocer in your video, both the wavetable and bandpass filter shift as the chord plays but mine is static..I would imagine lfo but I'm not 100% sure

[@shruthdev]

@@xxsomepeperagez use subtle lfo on amp release

[@bahadirhankocer]

The answer you’re looking for is in the matrix panel. There, you’ll see two LFOs and two envelopes as modulation sources. I assigned one of the envelopes to the waveshape position and the other to the filter’s cutoff knob. This way, I achieved a dynamic signal that triggers a new position with each played note. It’s pretty straightforward; you got this! You can find more on Wavetable and how the matrix panel works here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6jSp36Jm7dpbKM

[@xxsomepeperagez]

@@bahadirhankocer you rock!! Will launch Ableton as soon as I get home! Thank you

[@CukinijuBaravykas]

Hey, nice noise design. Was there a limiter or some gain processing on the master channel? I see low levels on individual channels, but the master is pretty high. Keeps it dynamic with enough headroom. Could you expand on that? Thanks!

[@bahadirhankocer]

Impressive that you picked up on that! Yes, I use a limiter on the master channel and also do a mastering pass right after producing the final version for videos. That’s why it’s normal if what you’re hearing doesn’t quite match what you’re seeing. I really should show what’s happening on the master channel too-especially for observant viewers like you.

[@xrcstrecords]

What’s the background music in the Hauntology parts?

[@bahadirhankocer]

Like the other two tracks in the video, it's one of my noise-based soundtracks. However, I haven’t finished that specific one yet. I share completed, release-ready tracks with members, and then a few weeks later, I release the ones I’m most satisfied with.

[@dominikhaering]

Please say that you have a german version of your book?

[@bahadirhankocer]

Mate... Unfortunately, the book hasn't been translated into any language yet.

[@jaxobophiuchi676]

Incredibly interesting . Does your book cover artifact (digital) vs ghost (analogue)?

[@bahadirhankocer]

Yes, I discuss this issue briefly in a small section. I talk about the absurd nature of using tape emulators, and the discussion moves beyond Derrida and Fisher. My intention was to provoke thought and offer a critique of the distorted perspective on the process of music "production." Noise is a genuine domain, and I did my best to represent it properly during the time I was writing my book.

[@KosmoDeuz]

Have some SoundCloud page, I don’t have Spotify for example.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Unfortunately, not yet. I’m planning to launch a Soundcloud page soon. In the meantime, you can still find my music on KZbin Music and other platforms by Googling my name.

[@jimwhite4482]

Hello, may is ask you about the link to your Article - Noise as a Spectre in Dub Techno - because the 12th of november is over ? Thank you

[@bahadirhankocer]

Hi there. I thought the article would be out on the 12th based on what I heard from the editor, but looks like I was wrong. It should be published really soon though. I'll let you know as soon as it's up with a pinned comment. Thanks for following along!

[@daemon_rosae]

♥️

[@bahadirhankocer]

♥

[@lazergray]

Why noise as hauntology rather than as negation?

[@bahadirhankocer]

There's a single reason for this: as a musicology researcher, hauntology has become a perspective that draws me in even more deeply. Otherwise, it's possible to approach noise from countless angles. After all, nothing in the universe is purely black and white, right? Ronny Pries once said: "what others disregarded as noise is my happy place". I say, "in noise we lost (and/or) in noise we find".

[@ShamazMusic]

The discount code for the course doesn't seem to work anymore

[@bahadirhankocer]

Thanks for the feedback. Updated!

[@ShamazMusic]

Of course, Just purchased it! ​@@bahadirhankocer

[@bahadirhankocer]

Enjoy the ride, mate!

[@PhantasmPhoton]

I just chuck a speaker in a metal trash can and record it from down the alley way.

[@bahadirhankocer]

It's impossible not to be curious about the outcome!

[@thanielionlee]

do you like POLE

[@bahadirhankocer]

I am a POLE enthusiast 👋🏻

[@LarcTald]

OSKOUR

[@monomakes]

Intersting idea, but by your definition of noise, as it appears in the music it's not strictly 'noise' as it has been chosen and cannot therefore follow the rest of the definition. Dub techno has little to do with Jamaican sound systems, that is not a past that the use of noise hauntingly reaches back/ forward towards.

[@teomankarasimsek1756]

i am also a music scientist myself. i have yamaha hs 7s.. lol everyone is inflated. academia is not good for your brain lol.

[@bahadirhankocer]

Is that so? Maybe!

[@PanamaDog]

just use f*in old gear, recreating the behaving of old gear in ableton is poor. you can just scrap a tape in a tapedelay and put it back in, or use a compressor to bring up the noise of old effects and so on.. get creative.

[@bahadirhankocer]

That's one way to see it.