Make Noise RENE 2 Review: Eurorack’s top sequencer gets a major redesign (René Rev 2)

[@averagepainter]

super complicated and cryptic unfortunately.

[@zhexum]

This video has 82k views currently, and I can personally attest that at least 80k of them are me watching it over and over to really learn the nuances of Rene. Thanks for this video!

[@Romaindeud]

got my René 4 days ago and watched this video three times

[@tjdumser9451]

Hey man, just wanted to tell you that what you do is absolutely awesome. As someone that has been researching and about to dive into my first modular setup, you've taken the "overwhelm" out of it and have provided such an easy to understand resource for people. I hope you know that you are indeed actually helping people and especially me, thank you.

[@loopop]

My pleasure thanks for the comment!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@loopop yes you consistently make great content.

[@alifeinyellow]

I don’t even think I’d be considering euro without Loopop

[@cooloutcoexist]

I'd love to see your advanced techniques video you mentioned in the end. I am especially interested in ways to transpose, maybe even two channels at once and how to be precise with this. Are you still planning on doing it? :-) Thanks for this one btw.

[@e0068-p2s]

Great video, loopop Thank you Waiting for those advanced techniques video you mentioned impatiently :)

[@VictorSteiner]

3:40 ... I own René since it's out now and I have watched this video before ... and still I wasn't aware that I could just pick a location and then see the quantized note it will output. Rewatching these videos once you've wrapped your head around the whole manual and had some use is so worthwhile.

[@nodfactor8808]

Hi there! Ever get around to that advanced René tutorial you mentioned toward the end?

[@VictorSteiner]

Yeah @Loopop, pleeeeease!

[@atomboyd]

Fourth watch through years late and still holding out hope on that one

[@loopop]

You know for a while I thought I didn’t have much to add but I’ve rediscovered this module recently. Don’t hold your breath please.... but I’ll probably integrate it in my next generative video

[@VictorSteiner]

@@loopop Wooooohoooooo :D

[@atomboyd]

loopop That’s the spirit! 🙌 definitely check out jamescigler’s mk1 vids if you get a moment, really cool stuff.

[@philoupaulo]

Is ratcheting possible ?

[@MatheusLeston]

You are an amazing reviewer! Great overview of a module I never really understood.

[@YannickRBon]

L-O-O-P-O-P ! "Not for ego purposes..." Yea right! Nice review!

[@Gruftgrabbler]

Right next to Geodesics Entropia and Atom this is my absolutely favourite sequencer

[@aidanvinum]

Great video, Loop. I would love to see you do a vid on FLXS 1.

[@muziekfeestje8635]

So well reviewed for something quite complicated (to me).

[@MUNRO13]

Sold the old one 3 days before this one came out :D

[@williamthazard]

I'm considering picking up a used Rene v2 for my case, and this was super helpful! I think I was hoping that the C channel would not only receive position information from both the X and Y clocks but could also be set, perhaps as an option on the "fun" page, to sum the v/8 values of the steps in the X and Y patterns (i.e., rather than setting the note for each individual step within the C channel itself, that information would be derived from a combination of the note values in the X and Y channels; I'm thinking of something kind of like the awake sequencer on the monome norns). Maybe this can be achieved with self-patching, though? If nothing else, I'm sure a similar effect could be produced by multing the X and Y v/8 outputs to a precision adder and then sending that information to create another musically related sequence on a separate voice. Thanks for a great walkthrough!

[@GeorgeLocke]

You'd potentially have to use two channels on a buff mult plus the adder...

[@chadweiske]

11:14 "come and get your love" - redbone :P

[@dirtreverse]

Brilliant to see LOOPOP scrolling by in the state sequencing part at 15:40-ish!! An animation indeed \o/

[@GeorgeLocke]

Ooh nifty hasn't caught that.

[@GeorgeLocke]

I'd wondered why he talked about ego there.

[@banksideleopards2791]

Hi there. I just get René classic today and I was wandering if there's any black magic involve in it? I mean it's just incredible how great this sequencer is, he's making everything sound so cool, I felt really creative after playing with and I really don't understand how Make Noise could have done such an amazing sequencer!? It's pure magic to me, he's opening a huge potentiality for playing live! And the good think is René classic is now very affordable. By the way, as always I'm enjoying watching yours videos. Cheers Dude

[@shpongled587]

Meanwhile, Arturia has that Keystep invention that seems to always keep shit in key. I still love you for your passion.

[@cultofours2648]

your lack of ego is applaudable

[@safestackin]

Still waiting on part 2 please.....

[@loopop]

sorrrryyy it aint gonna happen

[@safestackin]

Thank you for replying

[@RheyneMusic]

Lovely piece of music with this demo. Thank you for posting!

[@kellysereda4961]

An excellent tutorial, thank you. I have to admit, I didn't think I was OCD, but I found myself staring at the 1HP gap, lol.

[@loopop]

Thanks and totally agree. I did it to help separate the module from the one to the left but in future videos I just put it in the corner as I suffer from the same issue

[@ibara3321]

I have a question, when we talk about three channels, do we say that it can control 3 oscillators?

[@thom-alphaxiii-5106]

So deep, so gorgeous.....and.....well quite hard to review but as usual you were able to make it easy and clear.....

[@Rollur1234]

My filter is so cheap it feedbacks with the resonance in max

[@PeetiePeete]

You mentioned at the end that Rene can do more than 16 steps? Would like to see that in action.

[@egilkalman]

Is there any way to play the new René like a keyboard or select the currently active note by touching the corresponding touchplate? Like how v1 behaves when no page is selected.

[@loopop]

Yes, in latch mode - shown in the video

[@davidbrown8600]

Hey, this music sounds kind of like heaven. Thanks! :)

[@PaulJBurns]

As much as I think the Rene is fun in a nice well lit studio, , I always felt it to be an awkward and convoluted way of doing things on a dimly lit/dark stage, unless you are some kind of modular Pinball Wizard. It's just another way of doing things that can be achieved far more easily by other traditional methodologies. I like easy. Big plus that it is well laid out for left handed people though , I approve, and thanks loopop, another great video.

[@VictorSteiner]

So is there an easy way to have notes that are 2 or more steps long? If you remove gate from a 2nd note that has the same pitch as the first is it a longer note?

[@kurbfeeler]

Yes, removing second gate and using first gate to trigger a module like Contour controlling a vca can accomplish this.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Such a great tutorial! I bought a Make Noise Shared System Gold Plus late last year and have been learning it and love the modular quirkiness of Rene v2 and Make Noise.

[@ikkini]

Thank you for this review. This answers many questions, even if I already knew I'll keep my 6 years old René v.1 ! I'd just add that I wouldn't call René a sequencer even if it can be used like that, I see it more like a grid of stored voltages, and I often use it without clock input.

[@robertsyrett1992]

You send it gate sequences? edit: or do you use it like a performance, like a pseudo pressure points?

[@ikkini]

I send steady voltage in the clock input to call values stored by hand, like a Pressure Points yes. I mix uses and love that about this module.

[@VictorSteiner]

I pre-ordered this one and really thought about why you have to get a pressure point if you get this. Glad to hear that you use it that way.

[@ikkini]

I have both ! ^^ In a small Make Noise system, I mainly use René with DPO and Pressure Points with Mysteron (in kinda wavetable mode).

[@politesociety]

you mean you have a sequence of stored voltages? :)

[@philtobin9510]

I had the MK1 and really didn't give it a chance so ended up selling it. No I know a little more I've bought the MK2, easy to figure out and the menu system is much easier as well. Highly recommend this sequencer and this video if your not one to open the manual.

[@GangiFilms]

I was about to buy the rene rev 1 but wow now I will go with rev 2

[@CablesForClouds]

Holy fuck 😯

[@Digithalis]

for a beginner, this is a amazing tutorial!

[@000aleph]

Thank you. Looks tremendously unintuitive to me, but then I'm not a modular person.

[@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers]

Exquisite sounds! Headphones are a must!

[@basswerkrec]

how do you program notes and hear them while programming them?

[@mynmyself]

Oh my god... They have solved all the little details that made me mad at times with my Rene... having access to the different snake modes via menu is SUCH A NECESSITY! I was always struggling to get back to my "original" sequence...

[@robinmood1]

Best tutorial for rene where I have see. Very easy to understand. Thank you!

[@VictorSteiner]

WHY did you get yours before I got mine? :D At least now I will know things before it arrives ;)

[@Sklang32]

ugh! Great now that inner debate, Well the flxs1 can do this....oh but the renee.....GUH! Don't make me get both of them!

[@Larry30102]

Super helpful video. A big Thank You!!

[@robertmoore1583]

Thank you for such a detailed look at Rene 2 ... I do have a technical question which may be obvious to others ... not at the moment to me. If I quantize 12 steps so that I can pick notes from a scale by turning of the access prior to starting Rene ... it seems that the quantization if done with 2 octaves selected does not register when I move to 3 octaves while playing. So does the quant function need to be done for each octave range individually ... ie one vs two vs three vs four? Also there seems to be no exact point for the pot that gives exact note ... do you quantize through a tuner? Last question ... of a sorts .... moving the frequency of the STO module changes the pitch ... does the quantization track this and using a latch page can I tune the bottom C note to a perfect note as the frequency changes? Thanks ... would love to use this ... part of the System Cartesian to program scale and mode changes in Logic.

[@KeithCanisius]

Exellent learning video. This module is not that easy at first if you are new with modular. This helped a lot. Manual is great, but...lol

[@doverbeachxyz]

I'm from the future but I don't see the link 😂

[@loopop]

You didn’t go far enough!

[@KPsTboy]

Don’t know if I could get used to this interface, as not everything seems as intuitive as I’d prefer, but there’s no denying it’s a well thought of versatile interface design, kudos for that.

[@motoboy6666]

Can you transpose all channels in some way simultaniously? Like with one cv in and inside a quantized scale?

[@tonymitchell1461]

Great Rene 2 tutorial - so much more helpful (and thorough ) than the manual.

[@stephencaines5610]

Loopop, thank you so very much for what you do here on KZbin.

[@Muenchhausen]

do u instantly understand any device u get, or are u just good in reading manuals!? sooo insane❤️ why the f…. can u do this?

[@loopop]

thanks! no I don't instantly understand and yes I do read manuals :)

[@kawaiandy2716]

Is it possible to change the length of the gate?

[@jacco1967]

This helps me a lot to visually learn the basics of this very complex sequencer.

[@adroc9841]

Looks cool but confusing as hell

[@oskarorarngrimsson2812]

Finally States!,! thank you so much!

[@jamesbroomfield7027]

Great video. Way clearer than the Make Noise video.

[@mpingo91]

What are your patch cables? The grey, thin ones. 1:20 I need thin cables!

[@loopop]

I think they came with the MiniBrute 2

[@Rollur1234]

What filter modules do you recommend under 200$? Im hustling Loopop

[@loopop]

There are so many filter modules I couldn't say, I've only tried a handful

[@Rollur1234]

@@loopop perhaps the Doepfer wasp? Have you tried it?

[@loopop]

@@Rollur1234 it’s good but like I said, I really haven’t listened to many others so I can’t say

[@Rollur1234]

@@loopop i have a doepfer envelope and its great!

[@Rollur1234]

@@loopop compared to the selection in my rack

[@j-ltekbrain2177]

Do you have the chance to be owner of the previous model?

[@tColorsinspacerecordings]

Awesome thx

[@TheSilentCartgraph3r]

Now the wait for my shared system becomes even more intense! Ive been waiting to put my disting in it and now I can change disting presets with Rene.

[@tColorsinspacerecordings]

Rosetta Stoned 👍👍👍

[@Sicolirics]

spectacular, those basses reach the soul looks like a moog Ooo!!!

[@alexanderscott6332]

Wow that opening

[@AnimatoAudio]

Hi there, great tutorial on Rene 2. Would like to ask if you’ve found a way to get one note to sustain for 16 steps without sounding out the other 15 ghost notes? Setting all 16 steps to the same note is a little too much work :)

[@loopop]

Away from Rene now but how about just taking care of it on the sound site and using Rene as a trigger? or slowing down the clock of this track to 1/16?

[@AnimatoAudio]

Those are booth good ways. Thanks for the advice!@@loopop

[@hdjsos]

LOOPOP IS GOD

[@ElSWVisitor]

I want it

[@atomboyd]

+Loopop, Still planning on an advanced Rene v2 Vid? jamescigler has some really great mk1 vids on his channel and I'd love to get close to some of that functionality despite some of the changes from mk1 - mk2.

[@loopop]

Adam Boyd no sorry, due to so many other things going on that’s not likely in the near future :/

[@atomboyd]

@@loopop understood! I thought maybe since you've been cranking out the vids. Thanks for the response. Side note: did you used to do history videos on KZbin? I thought I heard your voice.

[@loopop]

Adam Boyd no, not me...

[@degradedecho8397]

So the Logic options from MKI are gone? Even in Cartesian Channel? I love most of the changes but will miss logic decisions as they really were the essence of Rene. Am I missing something?

[@loopop]

I didn’t do a one for one comparison because I don’t have the original René, but if I’m note mistaken the fun.mod is like OR and run/stop is like AND. Couldn’t find an XOR.... perhaps someone who has both modules can chime in

[@degradedecho8397]

I sold my MKI in anticipation of the MKII. 2 looks great, excited for the tesseract features but feel as though the logic functions have been cast aside.

[@daneguitarist1]

god damn thats beautiful!

[@nectariosm]

Very nice demo. If I didn't have a V1 (and lots of other multi channel sequencers) I would pick this up mainly due to the touchplate being more responsive. They've loaded the V2 with heaps of features, that is for sure but even though I have the V1 for 3 years (it was my first sequencer) I still think its a handful when I utilize the X/Y MOD inputs, so still interesting enough for me for sure. Props to Make Noise though, this is a brilliant update and the fact that are 300€ V1 Renes and still unsold, shows just how much better this V2 is...or maybe how scared people are to have an ill responsive touchplate? who knows. Great video too (even though Rings sounds like "meh" to me but of course its very useful for this demo :) )

[@TheSilentCartgraph3r]

do you like your Mysteron better than Rings? Ive thought of picking one up before they become rare

[@nectariosm]

Oh yes. But then again I am not an objective person to ask as I don't like Rings' sound. I had an Elements for months, it never made it to a track. Having said that, Rings does a lot more stuff than the Mysteron. But nothing sounds like the Mysteron. My go to source for mutant, glitchy drum sounds.

[@jamiebridson7871]

nektar your music is fucking awesome. Been a fan for aaaaaaaages now. Rad tattoos too.

[@nectariosm]

nice one mate, cheers.

[@aarongarwood4431]

Hi - Can Rene Mk1 be updated to Mk2? Or is it a completely new build?

[@loopop]

No it’s totally different

[@aarongarwood4431]

@@loopop Thanks for confirming

[@VictorValcarcel]

Crazy pretty thing

[@charlescowper]

@loopop did you ever make that part 2 video? :)

[@loopop]

no... sorry, didn't come up with enough to justify a video

[@foxendeavor]

Hi. Can you tell me how/what was creating the sub harmonic sound in the very beginning of the video?

[@jontip]

Make Noise STO I believe

[@foxendeavor]

Are you sure. Doesn’t look like anything coming out of the sub output. I am actually curious if it’s Rings?

[@foxendeavor]

Jonti Pitt I guess it is sto just not the sub output was throwing me off. Thanks.

[@aidanvinum]

Superbly succinct and concisely clear. Thanks for this. So, this is simply a “review”? If so, would love a tutorial. :)

[@loopop]

AdrianVino thanks! It’s sort of like a review-torial - hopefully this and the manual will get you going! Rene will return but not as a tutorial

[@aidanvinum]

loopop I am losing my simple mind. Is there a way to make certain steps muted on the Rene 2? On the DFAM you just turn a knob counter-clockwise and done.

[@loopop]

@@aidanvinum just disable the gates on the gate page?

[@MarkoDeLaVoota]

how to program rests ?

[@loopop]

Remove gates

[@tracetravlr4029]

Great video! But whatever became of the followup vid on advanced features, mentioned several times in this one? Would truly love to see it….

[@loopop]

Life got in the way... sorry

[@tracetravlr4029]

@@loopop No worries, certainly understandable. I do hope you will decide to make the video at some point in the future, as your work is extremely helpful to me (as I’m sure it is for many others too).

[@Larry30102]

If you haven’t checked it out if you go into Make Noise Yourube channel and select Playlist, you can scroll down to Rene, and get a listing of all the Rene videos. Super deep and frankly a little mind blowing. Good luck. Loopop is hard to beat with his teaching style.

[@tracetravlr4029]

Thanks Larry! I did find those and have started working through them. That’s another great thing about Make Noise: they continue to produce some very useful vids about their modules. 👍🏻

[@VictorSteiner]

Was that 2nd video about René ever made?

[@loopop]

No sorry, after rethinking it I didn’t feel I had anything material to add

[@VictorSteiner]

@@loopop Ok. Have to put that sequencer into focus again, I'm so underusing it's capabilities.

[@darylccc]

Great work!

[@MartinDoudoroffLLC]

Yay! This answers many questions.

[@KeithCanisius]

Can you get it to work with the Moog Minitaur?

[@loopop]

I don't have one but it should work

[@KeithCanisius]

@@loopop can't get it to work. Does the rene send 5 volt out if turn the pot? Can anyone get it work with the Minitaur??

[@loopop]

Sorry... can’t help if I don’t have it...Perhaps someone else can...

[@richiesantana7628]

Nice update but still way too complicated

[@guitarman122763]

The learning curve on some of these new devices is ridiculous ,,Who has the time ?

[@kurbfeeler]

While there are a lot of new features put in, in some ways it's easier to use than Rene v1 if you only use what you need, which are all right on the surface. The reward is a greatly improved sequencer for variation in composition. I don't yet use the C channel, but with x and y being two independent sequencers and the ability to copy paste and make variation in states and save, it's a huge step forward as user-friendly sequencer with a huge memory while still being able to be detached from a computer.

[@troublesomecorsair]

The time stamps don't work when I click on them. All it does is pause the video.

[@loopop]

True - you need to scroll to the right point using the video time line. KZbin doesn’t allow a clickable timeline on the video

[@troublesomecorsair]

Thanks for the reply! ;) Your videos are always excellent.

[@PeetiePeete]

I've seen youtubers put the time stamps in the description section where they can be clicked on there.

[@loopop]

I do both

[@troublesomecorsair]

Honestly though I was just trolling...

[@ScottPigman]

I feel like I would have to spend an awful long time dedicated to learning this thing before it becomes anything more than a rather expensive way to play more-or-less random notes in pretty much random order

[@samgreene7961]

Seems like it plays notes from beginning to end pretty easily. You turn knobs to select a quantized note pitch. Nothing random unless you want it to be.

[@edwardprue]

Outstanding intro track - thanks for that!

[@FranckMartin]

Very nice review. I guess the next version of René should have an SD card to load/save these parameters.

[@benki._]

So it does everything but ratcheting? I was hoping to have that option through the FUN page. Please help?? I’m in desperate need of a good sequencer but i must be able to ratchet fast and easy like in varigate8+. Thanks 🖤

[@loopop]

No it doesn’t ratchet natively. I guess you could use one of the tracks to control ratchets created by an external synced lfo

[@flannsixtyseven7489]

4:11 it needs an external clock ??? AAARRRGH, stopped at about 10 Minutes that seems insanely complex, think i will stay with the 0-Ctrl and SQ1 though there is just a Rene for sale locally.

[@petedako]

so is it a FIRMWARE update - or a totally different module?

[@loopop]

It’s a new, different module

[@MarkoDeLaVoota]

modular gets more and more complicated:/ menu diving.....brrr still love it , nice module, but too DX7 ish

[@nectariosm]

If only the DX-7 was only this complicated. I'd get one in an instant.

[@Evildandalo]

sys-hex The best thing about the DX7 MK1 is that some stuff isn’t even labeled. It took me almost a year of owning it to figure out how to change the midi settings. Programming stuff from scratch on the keyboard is like building a LEGO set with no instructions

[@PaulJBurns]

DX7 was the icing on the dog's undercarriage with cherries on top.

[@MarkoDeLaVoota]

I bought it....one of the best sequencers I own , deep , but worth learning