Making my OWN Filament from Failed Prints with the 3Devo Composer

Since starting my journey with 3D printing 5 years ago I've been yearning to find ways to make the hobby more environmentally sustainable. There are many small things we can do, like designing to avoid support material and minimize material used, promoting functional and meaningful prints, printing with less harmful plastics like PLA... but one big goal that has been difficult to achieve is to eliminate any plastic waste by recycling any failed prints, rafts, support materials, etc. Ideally, we should be able to turn that plastic right back into filament to print with again! Well today I got my hands on a machine that can do just that, the 3Devo Composer 450. This video covers my initial experience getting started with the machine.
This video is not sponsored, but the Composer was sent to me for free so I could share my experience.
You can learn more about the 3Devo Composer at bit.ly/3Devo
STL files :
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[@make.anything]

Since a lot of people are bound to bring it up, yes it's a very expensive machine (~$7000!). Still, it's the start of one solution!

[@NicksStuff]

That would be interesting to do the math then. What's your electricity and "consumables" cost for 1 kg of recycled filament?

[@elsabienenstock6511]

I always keep my failed prints, in the hope that someday I can do something like this. Hopefully the cost goes down, considering I’m only 14 lol

[@scottjackson2812]

It’s a start! I actually do a lot of work for the plastics industry (building automation) and this is the first “at home” filament maker that actually uses the correct process of pulling on the extrusion to get the right diameter and material strength. This is clearly the Bugatti version. It’s only a matter of time before we see the Honda Civic version.

[@ThePhantazmya]

@@NicksStuff At the retail price it would probably take years of consistent use for it to "pay for itself", especially if it's that finicky about using recycled material. The only thing that makes it worth it is the ability to custom design your own filament in which case you are paying for access to the tool not really for the product and it's harder to quantify what that is worth to someone.

[@cjoe5977]

Maybe see if you can do a give away lol

[@clort123]

"temperatures are limited until you register" Aight I'm out

[@legoman8960]

next: "introducing the high temp DLC only $99.99!"

[@aregulargamer4144]

@@legoman8960 did EA make this crap?

[@als_pals]

"activation code" Yay! DRM for a machine you own!

[@plum_pie6402]

was just thinking that, really gives it such a long life after its first owner -_-

[@3DJapan]

So what happens if the company goes out of business and you haven't activated it yet?

[@Misha-dr9rh]

@@3DJapan You have a few dollars in scrap metal on your hands.

[@Gartral]

Normally, I'd agree. However I think it's actually used as a safety lock-out here. You MUST read all the documentation for a machine like this, it poses several hazards including burning the user, starting fires, and releasing toxic gases if mishandled. It's a really neat machine, and is a step in the right direction for th sustainability of 3d printing, but it's a lot more complicated than it appears. Firstly, you MUST keep your plastic waste separated and labeled, this becomes a storage issue if you like experimenting with various materials. Second, and more importantly, you have to have a decent grasp on plastic chemistry to use a device like this safely. You all remember that delicious looking Candy Apple Red that a few companies were making that was quietly discontinued a few years ago? Yea, turns out the pigment released carcinogenic gases at typical nozzle temps. That's ON TOP OF the already nasty VOCs from normal filaments.

[@MrGTAmodsgerman]

@@Gartral I would like to see a recycling service where you can send/give them all your failed prints and they reuse it, and you get money for it, instead of spending so much time and tweaks with creating a new filament. Some sort of recycle would be nice. Because compared to normal plasic trash, these ones are pretty clear and companies have the ability to filter any different color into seprated ways by lasers. And that goes with all the negative aspects you mentioned.

[@DavidGetchel]

This shows great promise! A local community could get one and people just drop off their failed prints. Like bottle and can recycling. Get some money back and the recycled filament gets made and sold locally.

[@davelordy]

Great idea.

[@potatismos6657]

That’s an really great idea

[@hunterrrwlodarczyk476]

That's an awesome idea

[@tamgaming9861]

Nice idea, but so easy it isent if you want to print with it again. Then it has to be total clean. Means not only clean from dirt, it has only to be pur ABS, pur PLA and so on. Otherwise you run into problems or cant use it for 3D printing anymore.

[@hunelektroBF]

Maybe it could be worth in a poorer country or for a project where we make something together only from recycled plastic! I am in.

[@mikesnapper9001]

Feed the extruded filament directly into a 3d printer which will make prints that will automatically fall into a filament shredder upon completition and the shredder will pump the crushed filament back into the filament maker. The 3d printing centipede.

[@Martial-Mat]

LOl - how meta!

[@buddybonbutt7510]

More like the circle of printers

[@joachim1973]

actually really nice idea, problem is just that this will run not more then 5 times, after that the filament is bridle, so it won't work anymore. That's also one problem with that extruders. Also you can print filament, that is the much easier way of "The 3d printing centipede"

[@idiot_in_a_box]

Genius no more buying expensive filament

[@mrlebanon6055]

Too much satisfactory gaming 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@graysonvanderzalm7709]

When you get the process down you should try plastic bottle caps

[@make.anything]

I'd love to start shredding up ALL my waste plastic :D

[@KiR_3d]

I think that it's possible to build a pro-level filament extruding line (with a water channel, sensors and etc.) for ~ 10 grands (or maybe cheaper). It just takes more space but the result will be really outstanding. With a grining line (smaller and smaller pieces) I think it will be possible to recycle PET bottles and get filament out of it as well. It's more likely to get a profit than with this machine, Devin! (sorry, not sure I've wrote your name properly!)

[@DigBipper188]

PE should be printable being a thermoplastic and able to adheer to itself, so I could see using old plastic bottles and caps being another great way to recycle... It'd be pretty fun to shred a few pepsi bottle caps, turn them into filament and 3D print a Bepis logo with them. Maybe coke bottles and print them into a c0nke logo? The possibilities are pretty much endless!

[@DigBipper188]

@@KiR_3d If you're able to accurately modulate the extrusion speed and rapidly cool the filament (ice water bath would probably be more than sufficient here) then you could probably make it for less than £10K. The hard part is getting accurate extrusions to within +/- 10 microns, although it'd probably be doable with an arduino and a few high accuracy sensors.

[@KiR_3d]

@@DigBipper188 +/- 10 microns is the cosmic level tolerance :) +/- 30 micron is enough IMO. Although if it's possible to make it within +/-10 without lags then why not! :)

[@RonaldFinger]

I really liked the part where you made your own filament

[@rapolasbieliunas2866]

Dhut

[@DuoVersal]

@@rapolasbieliunas2866 what does that mean?

[@alexbarbat8408]

@@DuoVersal bruh it means dhut are you dumb?

[@silsquare]

Same man!

[@olriksijens7021]

Y'all mean dude?

[@animationcreations42]

I can't wait for the really good Chinese knock offs

[@moko4980]

Lol

[@Alikapups]

Mate, check out the wellzoom filament extruder line. The full kit is like 3500 usd, so pretty much half the price of this one while looking to be a more professional piece of equipment. I'm planning on buying something similar. Sadly I'm broke so time will tell if something better will hit the market by the time I'm ready financially.

[@oukid2633]

Well the entire 3d printer project was open source, so it wasn’t hard for them to replicate

[@Martial-Mat]

At this crazy price they have created their own competition. Loads of room for cheaper rivals.

[@ksiazzazle9377]

Same...6 grand plus....I'm a hobby 3d printist not a hooker. Do not have that kinda cash.

[@moth.monster]

Sure, this one's expensive. But ten years ago, 3d printers were crazy expensive too.

[@runklestiltskin_2407]

Yeah, but everyone wants to print, who s really in to recycling?

[@futureaests2170]

@@runklestiltskin_2407 good filament can be quite costly and it would be wasteful to throw all the support material/ failed prints away. Once these composers are available as 200$-400$ kits it seems sensible for people that print as a hobby.

[@satibel]

if you're printing with more exotic filaments like PEEK (~250$/kg) or PEI (~180$/kg), being able to recycle them is really good. also, for pla, a kg spool is 15-20$, while a kg of pellets is 3-5$. so for someone who prints a lot, it's less expensive.

[@DigBipper188]

Damn straight they were. I rmember the up mini launching in 2012. It was one of the first fully enclosed desktop 3D printers, and would set you back a cool $2000. Nowadays you can pick up a funtional enough printer that will do everything the up mini could do and way more for less than a tenth of that cost!!

[@andrewwalker1008]

that one filament maker is worth 350 kg of pla...craziness...

[@riccardomassafaidatech]

Me: "whoa that's awesome! let's look at the price!" Also me: "$7000 bucks.. ok. I'll continue to throw away plastic."

[@lucashill5098]

same

[@houalee9101]

let say on average a single spool costs you $25 (typical 2kg spool). and the machine costs $8000. so the math is, 8000/25 = 320 spools. Which means, you can get 320 spools for the same price as this machine. Unless you do A LOT of printing, it is not worth it. Stick to throwing a little plastic away from time to time.

[@ApexAcademy_off]

its over 8K now

[@milkyproduxions]

or maybe just do what he did in his recycling prints video

[@facelessdrone]

Or, you could send it to someone who has one of these so you don't make the world more polluted, and also get rid of your trash

[@FranklyPeetoons]

This is like a "concept car" version of the product. Impractical, but its features will eventually find their way down to realistically-priced machines. However, the required "activation" is really intrusive & obnoxious.

[@onedayflie1]

Why the hell is there an activationcode on it???? That doesn't build up confedence.... It reminds me of those other electronics who had it... people lost codes... or the company didn't support it anymore and the product became useless....

[@ge2719]

yeah, same as the laser cutters that only run on the companies servers. so you have to log the printer into a website. complete nonsense and just a pointless way to screw over their customers.

[@tobih182]

You can use it without activating up to 200°C You need to activate the tempratures above with the code, just to make sure you know what you are doing

[@3devo]

Hi John! As tobih182 mentioned, we have our users request an activation code to ensure they have read the start-guide and extrusion precautions. We want to make sure they have properly set up their Filament Extruder in order to prevent clogging or other issues that may occur with certain materials (when not treated properly). I hope this helps clear things up a bit :)

[@roidroid]

@@3devo is it also used as an effort to protect your system from being reverse engineered & copied?

[@ge2719]

@@3devo and whats to stop them putting in a code without having done any of that? where do they actualy get the code? what if they sell the product on to someone else.?

[@Bostonbowser]

Sheesh 5k euros. Good to see something like this finally be made though, even if it isnt very accessible for many.

[@Fighter_Builder]

Yep. The first 3D printers were stupidly expensive too due to the technology being new; I'm sure these devices will get cheaper and better too as things progress.

[@bakaXY]

@@Fighter_Builder filament extruders aren't something new...this is just too expensive

[@sasjadevries]

I've seen many reviews of DIY filament makers, and they all have the same problems: high cost, high tolerances on the filament and a lot of tinkering involved into making it run.

[@gabrielex]

It's not 5k euros, it's way more, check their website and notice the VAT excluded note ;-) Cheapest one is €5300 VAT excluded, most expensive one is €6950 still VAT excluded, that makes them €6466 and €8479, or $7,627 to $10,000 VAT included!

[@kristupasT]

Can we send you some plastic and will you recycle it?

[@make.anything]

Maybe eventually but I'm not prepared for that yet!

[@kristupasT]

@Suraj Dixit Yeah and lots of support material

[@Deathbyfartz]

At that price it should be spitting out gold 🤣😂

[@Omega_2]

Heard the pricetag, nearly lost me, and then I head 'activation code'. Imagine buying one of these ridiculous squares, and the company goes under. No windows activation key for you!

[@stunninggaming6007]

That happened to cozmo but a nice company bought anki and brought the servers back. i'm glad because i have a cozmo!

[@GuardianLords]

$7000 at a profit of $10/kg it would take 700hrs for an even break. Can it last that long without maintenance? (700 kgs) At 8 hrs a day that would 3 months to pay itself off. But even with a minimum wage employee attending to these machines you would need several machines for it to be profitable. At $11,000 filabot can output 4.5kg/hr. Even when assuming they have the same maintenance costs. Filabot can be profitable after a little over a month (245hrs). You may need an extra machine or two for it to be viably profitable, but it will require less divided man power than the 3Devo (4.5x less labor) The $3000 cheaper price is not worth it if you account for an employee attending the machines and the decreased output. Both the $7000 and $10,000 price tag is not meant for hobbyist consumers. Who is this machine marketed for?

[@mlee6050]

@GuardianLords how work out $10/kg profit? For me it about $30/kg of filament if just buy

[@arlingtoncummins8814]

I don’t want to know what all that math means...

[@Misha-dr9rh]

It's marketed for rich people who like 3d printing, this is really more of a gimmick than anything it seems

[@CWGminer]

For recycling prints, you should try running it through the machine multiple times. Run it through the first time to get filament that's too inconsistent in size for the printer. Then, cut it up into pieces and put it back, and it should be regular enough to produce good quality extrusions the second time around.

[@YaFunklord]

Most plastics, (in contrast to metals) degrade each time they are melted. Without pretty extreme metering and multiple melting chambers and boilers, reuse will require you to keep track of the history of your plastics.

[@hans-dieterjung4026]

First step: extrud it to 2mm , cool it and than extrude it to 1.75mm

[@Willasfantasyland]

you might try chopping the bad diameter filament into granulate to get more consistent size

[@davelordy]

Food blender . . then . . . coffee grinder.

[@roidroid]

That sounds like a good standard feature to put into these, to just keep looping the filament back into it's own grinder & feed hopper until the diameter is consistent. THEN start ouputting it onto the spool.

[@mackle6136]

3D pen over the noodle and turn it into a snek

[@tobih182]

BMW is using this machines aswell, it is perfect for printing prototypes in your serial material that isnt available as filament, also you are saving a ton of money when you get 1kg for 5$ instead of 200...

[@roidroid]

... huh thats kinda like fossil fuels. We dig up old dinosaurs to fuel our current dinosaurs.

[@tobih182]

@@roidroid to become a dinosaur it requires a meteor and a lot of time, history always repeats itself :>

[@TheJmanUniverse]

But can I make a new life out of my failed current one?

[@make.anything]

Yes ;)

[@Max_Weight]

I actually worked at this company and made a couple dozen of these Extruders. Just wanted to share it😂

[@amnesia071]

And you won't tell us about the famous and athletic shredder you made at 3devo as well? But thanks for you service Max :D

[@Max_Weight]

@@amnesia071 Hee Jasper, those are the best ;)

[@3devo]

We honor you for your service, Max!

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

I've seen people make mods for 3d printers that use a hopper of granulate instead of filament because it's shockingly cheap to buy raw granulate in bulk.

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

@John Dondero that's what i'm talkin about

[@davidmiao1568]

Love to see you grind up some water and coke bottles and see if you can make prints with that.

[@hunelektroBF]

We need a 3D printer with an optical sensor and self-adjusting flow rate.

[@SafetyLucas]

That would be cool but optical sensors are expensive. A pair of digital micrometers might be cheaper solution.

[@RalphBrandsma]

@@SafetyLucas Optical sensors are quite literaly a dime a dozen. however, I think the idea of two micrometers is a better solution. maybe a set of two spring loaded rollers cappable of measuring the size.

[@twobob]

This smells hackable

[@deefdragon]

@@RalphBrandsma I think redundancy would be to have both systems. If only one is possible, I am in favor of the optical. Fewer moving parts.

[@RalphBrandsma]

@@deefdragon i see what you mean. However. I was thinking more for both dimensions. As in have them in a x configuration so that you are sure it is coming out cylindrical and not skewed. But I agree with the less moving parts idea

[@Eggcup_]

You should actually make a video about all the "benchies" you made over the years.

[@slyryan5550]

this is just getting better and better

[@liquidwater1204]

Hi I’m here. I don’t have a 3D printer and I don’t plan to get one, but your videos are entertaining even if I don’t understand what the heck your saying. keep doing what you’re doing

[@lovehope5126]

LoL sweet

[@samwilson9589]

Lol me too

[@Dimitri2014]

@Liquid Water: Than you my friend.......are missing out :(

[@arlingtoncummins8814]

Oh I have a 3D printer but I also don’t know whaat the **** he’s talking about

[@klj43va]

For recycling you need to extrude it twice. So run your scraps through and done worry about width then grind / chop whatever you want to do and run it through again. You should get a more even extrusion

[@hannah5176]

I think you should call the filament made from your failed prints "FAIL-iment"

[@ReedCBowman]

Every makerspace should have one. I'd love to have a local place where I could go recycle my PLA for reuse.

[@The_Wosh]

1. Make sure all your failed prints are the same material 2. clean them 3. Dry them 4. Shred them 5. repeat 2 and 3

[@tamgaming9861]

and dont forget to mix it with 30% new granulate :-)

[@Xayify]

Alternatively........ Throw it all away?

[@marcy1949]

@@Xayify then whats the point of this machine

[@flybywire5866]

As usual, the price is just ridiculous. On top of this nonsense you need something to shred your failed prints into grains usable in it. To top it all your demonstration shows despite the insane price the device is rather experimental. With that price tag i would expect something that just works.

[@harryragland7840]

From the looks of the machine, it would seem to be more geared to producing your own first use filament rather than creating recycled filament. Given that, what do you see as the promise of this machine? Custom colors? Unusual filament diameters? Rainbow filament? Prototyping your own exotic filament? As painful as wasting filament and failed prints is, any kind of machine would seem to be prohibitive to all but the larges of printing environments.

[@make.anything]

You're right, this isn't everybody's filament maker, but it's nice to see what's possible at the highest end of desktop solutions! I'm going to keep trying to recycle failed prints, but I'm also very eager to just make my own custom colors and unusual composites

[@sharonabahazi7131]

So, how far away is being able take plastic in our house- packaging and such- knowing what is made from and melting or grinding it up and printing other things we need?

[@choschiba]

I would love to like them. But when I approached them at FormNext they were extremely arrogant to me 👎🏼. A no go 🙅 Your video is brilliant though, as always 👍🏼

[@TJWhiteStar]

You might want to have a look at their shredder/granulater and see what that does because that is meant to work in a mock supply chain with the Composser. It might give you some ideas on how far you need to go in processing your old prints so you can use them with this. Great video and yes it's expensive but nice to see the equipment (hopefully the price will come down as more market competitors come along or new tech is made)

[@Hawk1966]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who goes "wheeeee!" When they spin on a big wing nut. :) So, how's the cost difference for raw materials vs just buying a spool off Amazon? Good video.

[@robdegroot1414]

Netherlands represent!!!!

[@3devo]

Reppin'

[@seanfainsan4002]

Funny how people commenting here are amazed at the pricing. They clearly have no experience in manufacturing something beyond what can only be printed and at China prices. The Product likely doesn't have enough volume yet to get to the next, lower costing gen folks. Just look at just about any product that needs developing. If as a company, you develop until you get to a reasonable priced unit, as a small business, you may find yourself out of business if you don't get to market and turn a profit. That is unless we only depend on the largest companies with healthy R&D resources which we all know ends up not much better quality wise. Otherwise, from a innovation standpoint, selling these helps innovative business like this continue on. China would be lost if it weren't for companies like this they can copy from. That is until we get to where China themselves are known for quality innovation which with all this manufacturing knowledge, I'm sure they are making a lot of progress towards.

[@EvileDik]

It's basically a re-packaging of an already known open source project that's been around for years, there was very little R&D required by the company. The other products you can get based on this tech are about $800, so yeah someone's making some healthy mark-up. Add to that trying to DRM a product who's target audience are recyclers and makers, well ask Dremmel how putting DRM on thier 3D printers worked out for them....

[@PrintThatThing]

So badass! Thanks for sharing this process. You crack me up! How much is that machine?

[@make.anything]

Unfortunately it's thousands of dollars, but at least it works 😅

[@PrintThatThing]

@@make.anything hey haha! Theyll get the price point down over the next few year. Thanks for sharing this project! Keep designing!

[@PrintThatThing]

@@make.anything hey haha! Theyll get the price point down over the next few year. Thanks for sharing this project! Keep designing!

[@welshsteve2009]

10:10 You 'tweeked' the settings the wrong way. Increasing the temperature will make the material less viscous so naturally the extrusion will be thinner.

[@theboyfromla3781]

You should try making some filament out of perler beads they are pretty inexpensive and have a wide color range I bet they will make some good gradients for some awesome prints

[@dutchik5107]

No. Not the same type of plastic. It will ruin this machine and if it doesn't. Completely ruin the machine. You can also make gradients with pla. That's a lot safer and like actually works

[@jakeschmeiser5766]

Most honest youtuber even says consider subscribing

[@mleitner0]

You really need to work on the size difference in the crushed filament. You had 1cm pices with items there were basically dust size. That will never work no matter what your settings are. It needs to be consistent as much as possible.

[@roidroid]

Yes, perhaps it needs the scraps to be pulverized until powder, then mixed in that way. Or fuse the scraps into standard size pellets/grains like the rest. How do they even make those pellets, they are rounded & have no cut marks i dont get it. 👽

[@SianaGearz]

@@roidroid pellets come from a multiextruder, think big hot meat grinder, and are cut up while they're still hot. While cooling down and rubbing against each other they acquire their rounded shape. I think Devin needs to sift his pieces to make sure they're all below a given size, about the size of factory supplied pellets. Also it still won't be consistent enough. Perhaps a two step process, where he first extrudes some filament which may not necessarily come out consistent, then somehow (to be solved) chop that up into pellets of consistent length, which will then be already much closer to perfect and maybe repeat this process.

[@joegarbage5908]

This was probably one of my favorite videos lately. I enjoy pretty much all your videos but this seems like a really fun concept to work (or at least see you work with).

[@lovehope5126]

Very cool this is some revolutionary stuff thank you so much great video

[@bakaXY]

tbh, it's cool that another company picked up making filament extruders/recyclers, but it's just waaaaaaay too expensive compared to the diy alternatives and kits like the filastruder

[@GuardianLords]

$7000, I'm pretty sure the machine will break down before you get your money's worth.

[@4funrc11]

LOL! (Sorry, but this a huge waste of your (someone's/anyone's) money. Period.)

[@imajeenyus42]

I can't even begin to think on how all the different parameters interact and how they're able to control them all - it's really amazing seeing the initial blobby filament quickly turn into a smooth stream as it adjusts the speed!

[@Skidline_]

I think the problem is that your pla scrap have shape that is not supported by the mecanism ^^ You need to turn your scrap into small Ball like the one gived by the manufacturer before introducing it in the machine this way it will work like a charm i think ;) But good luck for finding how to turn scrap into small Balls x)

[@artai0sdev968]

Please dont mix the Plastik to Dust!!! It will clog your system!!! Just imagine flour getting pressed together and thats what you get if it is too fine. Upvote so Devin will see this.

[@ethanpatchen4113]

Sounds like you'd benefit from the Tevo Shr3d It for those failed prints you want to reuse. I did some research on Tevo and the Shr3d It and it sounds like a pretty good product. It will shred any print into consistent bits of plastic that can be used to make filament.

[@damichl9684]

For 5350 Euro you can buy a lot of New filament

[@Spirit532]

Economies of scale. It'll almost always be cheaper to buy pre-extruded filament than to make it, investment and consumables/power included. Think about how much filament you can buy for $7000... and that's not even counting the power and pellet cost. FWIW, the accuracy is awful as well.

[@theflyingguineapigfpv5812]

The future is so close I could touch it

[@yurushii]

I'm about to buy this machine! Before I do, please answer this question! Can you make your own pla with only your failed prints and ZERO PELLETS?

[@joojah3430]

We’re in love with it too ,and the translucent vase wow its amazing

[@Webby123]

Pretty cool they've come this far with recycling filament. I've seen a couple other videos that have homemade models which were just ridiculous, sorry ☹️ I'm sure it's disappointing to have to do so much calibrating on a supposed plug and play model, but it's brand new and you'll learn of it. Those flakes you crushed yourself that seem to make the machine go haywire, was there any ABS in there? I would think you definitely have to keep ALL types of filament separate? I'm surprised they didn't include a mini crusher that would sit above the hopper and that way it's a nice nearly identical pieces. Looks expensive!

[@flioink]

Yes! A machine to close the cycle and make 3d printing even more awesome.

[@05Matz]

DRM is an instant "No" and a dislike from me. DRM is never OK, no matter the excuse they come up with to justify it. The price is also absurd, but that will come down with time -- I'm more interested in some of the Open Source DIY kits out there for this sort of thing -- they're far from mature (mostly still gravity-fed), but they look interesting nonetheless. Still, home filament production is a cool thing for me. I've been kicking around the idea of putting two continuous diameter sensors on a 3D printer (at right angles to each other), and keeping track of the cross-sectional area of the filament as it passes through, loading the saved cross-section for the part of the filament that is currently being loaded into the melt zone and using volumetric extrusion to print smoothly even with severely out-of-diameter and non-round home-made (partially-recycled) filament. I'm not really familiar with embedded programming, so the calculations might be a bit much for an Arduino, but anything running something like Klipper should be able to handle it -- as long as you constrain your filament length (use a PTFE tube even with a direct extruder), you should be able to mount the sensors arbitrarily far from the extruder (so, on the frame/spoolholder) and just program that offset in.

[@matthijswesthoff7866]

I want one

[@thomassutrina7469]

Chip, the magnetic bed is made for this application. Both the binding plastic and the ceramic magnetic material are chosen for the application. Normal sheet flexible magnets use low temperature materials because of cost. However for example one likely material for the magnet is Neodymium which can have a peak temperature from 80 to 200 Centigrade. without changing the magnetic strength. I am getting this from a chart provided by Adams Magnetic products. Their three flexible magnet material they sell are: Standard 71 Centigrade, High Energy 79 Centigrade, and Neo 116 Centigrade.

[@chrisvanderpoel1344]

Nog hollanders hier?

[@HiltownJoe]

To get good sized granules from recycled prints you could extrude it once to crappy quality filament and shred that. Then you could use those like the new granules alternatively you could try replacing the pully wheel with a gear like thing that cuts the freshly extruded filament from the first run.

[@StephenBoyd21]

Looks like the 3D equivalent of a Lamborghini. Really nice but nothing more than a play thing for people with more money than sense.

[@vaibhavagarwal4637]

For a ~7000 dollar machine, I honestly expected better quality filament. 7K, when you could use a Filastruder, and winder, and add lots of improvements, and get better results.

[@whitegemgames]

Waiting for something like this that’s affordable, like $200 or so, otherwise it seems kind of pointless, as I see these as a potential way to save money and recycle, but isn’t practical at current prices.

[@imVexedBruh]

It makes you think, why do companies make something that would seemingly be good for the environment so in accessable for normal people, Id be surprised if they made any sales off these promotions.

[@pawelbienkowski2899]

I always want to make my own recycled filament from wastes. Especially when I reached 400 grams of garbage from 1 kilo of PLA filament. Throwing this into a trash can would be non-ecological and I have resistance to throwing it away and I collect it all with a division into types of filament, hoping that someday someone will process it.

[@PseuOG]

I wish I could get one, it’d be interesting to mix colors. You are so unbelievably fortunate!

[@ditkind1340]

0:23. “3Devo is a company based in the Netherlands.” Me: WOW WHAT? YES WOOHOOO. Sorry, nothing special here. Just me being proud. 😂

[@BenjaminGoldberg1]

You don't need to grind to dust, you only need to grind moderately, sift out the largest pieces, and regrind those oversized bits.

[@Veptis]

Maybe within a few years we can recycle our plastic trash into useable filaments. But it needs to be cleaned and mixed with virgin plastic

[@kurtownsj00]

Verrry interesting. As you said, a great next step.

[@EllTheBob]

That’s cool! I’ve been looking for filament making/recycling videos!

[@sasjadevries]

The only thing that i'm interested in is whether it works. This is yet another DIY fillament thing, and all the previous attempts made crappy fillament with fluctuating fillament diameter. Aaaaand, the conclusion for this product is: it's still not a case where you can push a button and go. This is still a product where you need to buy plastic or shred with the correct specification and tinker around to get some filament that can only compete with chinesium grade. And then buy this cleaning compound. Simply put: this doesn't safe the world nor does it safe your wallet.

[@Nick2567-]

I was watching this and no all the ads I get are just about 3d printed even an a ad about 3d printed 18+ toys

[@Aaron-ru6ld]

could you make it out of plastic bottles? like a recycle type thing like so he can see

[@phizc]

Someone should make a machine to create granules of shredded parts. That could then be used in a machine like this. No clogging.

[@make.anything]

3Devo has a shredder as well, but like this machine it's also at a rather high price range

[@jepron4639]

This is pretty epic

[@mirandarivers9378]

This is my first time commenting on one of your videos and the first time I might actually be intrigued to purchase a reviewed procdut on your channel! I'm a landscaper and I'm wondering, do you think we could make spoos of plastic similar to what we use for the weedeaters and at a cheaper cost than buying it at the store?! The spools I buy are around $50 and we go through about 10 a year. They're around 855feet I think. I'd be super curious to see u make some and test it in a weedeater!! Love your content, keep it going!!

[@make.anything]

Hi Miranda! The thing is, what you're seeing in this video is my complete experience with the machine, so I can't say much more with certainty. The Composer _should_ be able to make trim line out of Nylon (like the originals)... but 10 $50 spools is still only $500 compared to this $6000 machine (plus the cost of the materials). You wouldn't make your money back for a decade, it seems. Now, there are open source designs for extruders like this, so maybe there's some potential in going that direction

[@codasm]

Great review as always but what a waste of money this would be, 7K LMAO and for what? less than stellar filament. Also if you want to recycle filament add a Shredder to the total cost -ridiculous

[@dereketnyre7156]

Could you make filament from plastic water or soda/pop bottles?

[@pyalot]

In order for filament recycling to be feasible it has to be cost effective. At 7000 dollars for the machine (and ignoring electricity costs) you would have to recycle around 250kg of plastic to get anywhere near break even. Desktop 3d printers extrude about 50g of plastic per hour. Assuming 30% of your printing is waste, you would need to rack up about 15000 hours (2-3 years) of print time.

[@SianaGearz]

Or share a machine with another few hundred people via some kind of service.

[@tamgaming9861]

and dont forget, such a screw and barrel have a limited lifetime the costs for it are the highest in this machine!!

[@m.v_f.s]

FINALLY! Someone made a machine to recycle plastics! Now just have to wait to cheaper solutions to come out...

[@lostplshelp]

That price seems... A bit ridiculous. Especially when compared to something like a filabot setup - They're significantly larger and draw a lot more power, but run quite a bit faster and have better tolerances at a lower cost ($3800 USD as opposed to €5350 euros)

[@akhirajordao3399]

I would love to see you experimenting more with recycling, it amazing that a machine like this exists

[@TomAHawk-py6vj]

Maybe there is a reason the raw PLA has the shape is has, to prevent jamming and maintain an steady supply of melted PLA helping precise extrusion. If that is the case, we need an additional machine to produce these pellets, or they have to melt shredded PLA before it gets into the feeding screw.

[@Vok250]

For that price it better be .03 accuracy, not .07!

[@NicksStuff]

Could you connect it to a 3D printer to match the speed with the need of the printer and use the filament in real time? The printer getting the thickness information from the 3Devo, it would extrude accordingly

[@make.anything]

I'm not sure how well it would work slowed down that much, but it would sure be cool!

[@3devo]

We're already on top of it

[@WeirdRdr2TV]

This Machine is not worth the Money....definetly not....!!

[@stringstorm]

>activation code Stopped watching there.

[@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11]

I have a Prusa MK3, so my failed prints from the last year will probably give me about 10 meters of home made filament.

[@Voyajer.]

Hardware DRM, big yikes from me dawg.

[@yuyo57]

I’ll just go out and steal hundreds of recycling boxes and turn it into filament. I would never have enough plastic to make a 1 kg of filament. If I did save my scape plastic it would take me forever for a roll.

[@gilb6982]

To recycle old print you need a granulator to get the same size granule as the new plastic that way the melting will be more equal between the new and the old plastic

[@UP209D]

way too complicated just for recycling wasted PLA @@

[@NinjaContravaniaManX]

Thanks, this video increased my 3D pen efficiency a lot! Instead of doing the additional step of creating failed prints, I now print the filament directly into the hopper, recycle it through the machine and feed it directly back into the 3D pen, basically creating a loop. This way, I waste just as many resources, but save a lot of time and frustration and the end result is the same: not having anything to show.