Patch Programming: Ratcheting with MATHS | Make Noise

A patch programming approach to a common modular conundrum.
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[@olGrandpaby]

This is great. I’d love to see a whole series like this that focuses on techniques more than specific modules.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

You should check out our "Deep Dives" playlist. Some of the videos are module-specific but many of them are more universal techniques. (We almost always put a module or system name in the title just to help people find videos): kzbin.info/aero/PL0jGFC0FWQsiL6dkTl4bOxhnh5-8A6ndq

[@olGrandpaby]

@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC thank you!

[@mrcwalker33]

I discovered that you can apply a lot of the Make Noise video to other modules. I think this is a real service by the MN crew and even if it sounds cooler and more like in the video, the alternatives are there. For example, Doepfer makes a great ModDemix alternative. If you pair it with a mixer, will it get you to a similar result compared to the Make Noise vids? Yes. Does it make you realize how amazing the Make Noise ModDemix is? Absolutely!

[@aoutivd]

I don’t think you realize how incredibly useful these videos are. Sometimes it’s overwhelming how many possible routes there are to achieve things. It’s nice to have step by step tutorials. Thank you so much.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Glad you are finding the videos useful! Thanks for watching ⚡️⚡️

[@mntbighker]

I think he realizes ;-)

[@jsleeio]

what you described is why I largely avoid the MW Eurorack forum. It seems a huge portion of topics there just turn into a list of everyone's favourite modules

[@benoftroy]

I treasure this video library you've built (and continue to grow). It's an abundant resource of fun and of learning. Thank you for another terrific installment, Walker!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thank you for watching! So glad you are enjoying and finding the videos useful ⚡️🎶⚡️

[@bertrandvanasch]

very inspiring patch AND philosophy ! Thank You ❤

[@michaelt_tamtam]

I never wanted a Maths before, but after viewing this video, I see how awesome this module really is.

[@909one]

I love how inspired by Serge philosophy this is. It's no secret that Maths is inspired by the DUSG but I love seeing those patch programmable methods cross over into euro. I think everyone can learn from those and see how the majority of single function euro modules are derived from just one function of a Serge module.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Patching on Serge does put me even more into this kind of mindset! It can be almost like working out a puzzle sometimes, in a very good way ⚡️

[@EVILJAMARR]

Nice. This patch really came out lovely in the end

[@robertmkorte]

I wanna know now! Can‘t wait 😊

[@rdean150]

This was great. All of your patching tips videos are great. So helpful, and I really appreciate the message of this one, specifically telling people that they DON'T need to buy another module. Just use the ones they already have more creatively. Wonderful advice!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching! ⚡️

[@RayMcNamaraMusic]

I love these patch-from-scratch walk throughs.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks! Glad to hear it!

[@Z3RODIVID3]

constant source of inspiration. Thank you Walker!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching!!

[@leescanlan4995]

Excellent patch. Best and most musical Eurorack video I’ve seen in a while!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Glad you enjoyed it!! 🎶

[@irondragonrides]

So I wanted to do a Ratcheting Bass Line with only my Make Noise modules, and after spending a bit of time and thought, I figured out how to do it using maths. I then went and searched and found this video. While my approach was a little bit different then what you present, the basic concepts were the same and my results came out excellent. My Patch Basically, Tempi clocking Rene X, Rene X gate out into maths trigger 1, Maths right side set to cycle and out 4 to maths left side Cycle in. Adjust maths knobs for a good pattern and envelope. I used XPO into Spectraphon SAM and Maths left envelope out to Spectraphon partials via a mult, and also multed to Optomix, Spectraphon outs to Optomix. For some randomness Tempi channel slowly clocking wogglebug, and s&h out into Rene, X-cv with X.fun.cv set to snake. Rene X.cv out to Spectraphon 1V/oct in. Optomix out to Qpas then Mimeophon. Generative bass sequence for days. I need to get a YT recording rig going so I can video record this stuff. Fun Fun.

[@joshdprts]

Just wanted to pipe up to add to the chorus of appreciation here. Thanks so much for these videos. They’re as beautifully designed, considered and rich in inspiration as MN modules themselves 🙌

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for saying so!! ⚡️🎶⚡️

[@heliconcodex]

Another instant classic! I love these patch programming videos. Even if the specific result isn't something I think I "want to do", the actual thought process and technique development is both fun and satisfying. And just like you mention in the video, those serendipitous discoveries lead you in new directions and expand your technique toolbox. Thanks again Walker and MakeNoise.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for saying so! Glad you are enjoying the videos ⚡️🎶⚡️

[@mymodularjourney]

I love these videos. Even if you don’t have the specific modules, the techniques can be applied anywhere.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks!!

[@VocalChainsStudio]

So cool. It’s wonderful how fun the cycle function on MATHS is to play. I’ve seen you do a Rene’ video that seemed to ratchet a bit as you modulated one of the axis CV inputs. Thanks for another killer video, Walker!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Ooh, thanks for that reminder that gives me some ideas ⚡️🎶⚡️

[@burprobrox9134]

Thank you, hope the team is doing ok! This was really helpful, and I enjoyed the “theoretical discussion”.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Glad you enjoyed it!! ⚡️⚡️

[@Jac7k]

This is a great video (and great patch!). Really exemplifies the qualities I love most about Make Noise design philosophy: it sounds good, it is simple enough to more or less recreate from memory, and it relies on a keen understanding of the core building blocks of synthesis rather than a set of module-specific features.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks! Yes that's a pretty good summation of what we strive for in a demo patch anyway. I like to aim for making it simple, intuitive, flexible, and inspiring. ⚡️⚡️

[@squelch4252]

Impressive skills and knowledge, thank you

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching! ⚡⚡

[@BTB88]

This is a really awesome patch.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Glad you enjoyed it! ⚡️

[@brianreilly6545]

Great video and well said👍🏻

[@noidsch2129]

Thanks Walker! Great video.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching!

[@gladstonedeluxe622]

beautiful! Maths never stops giving.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

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[@Phargoomax]

Great explanation, thank you!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching!

[@jimboburgess42069]

Limitations spark creativity!

[@an_outskirt292]

i can see clearly now, the rain has gone. beautiful aggregation of techniques.

[@DrMuse-on2dx]

Thanks, you are a wealth of knowledge.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Somnambule]

Big thanx for sharing this great tutorial! Greetings 🖖☺️

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching!

[@JB61264]

Great video...always love learning new tricks to try out with my Maths. But look at poor Morphagene sitting there on the bench looking sad that she didn't get invited to the party...

[@blaythessteuer]

Curiously I asked about ratcheting with Rene 2 on mod pretty recently… :) Love this update on the Rene 1 video style technique and expansion here!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

😛 Thanks for watching!

[@serdarsaydan]

amazing, thank you so much

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks for watching! Also, thanks for naming yourself after one of my favorite Big Bird songs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4XZmX6QfaaDbrc

[@serdarsaydan]

@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC aaah, sweet old memories bring joy. keep patching like a child 😇

[@mattkaz9604]

Good stuff. I don't have this machine, but the ideas and processes are very interesting.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Glad to hear you got something out of it!

[@nsjx]

Great patch! Loved when the chirps came in. Thanks Walker. Gonna watch this a few times to get it all digested and will find a way to do this with what I 'have'. If I would be wanting to make a similar seq with an earlier synth, I would use OSC/LFO's 🤷🏼‍♂️ those little things are mega-powerful if viewed from a cubist 'perspective'. Esp if one happen to have a few at disposal.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

"Viewed from a cubist perspective" is a nice way to think of it. Thanks for watching!! ⚡️

[@nsjx]

@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC I find increasingly often it helps to go back in Time to (Re-) discover how to move forward with some idea. Thank you and the MN gang for keeping it infinitely deep. I believe 'sound' synthesis is about much more than what we've learned to call 'Music'. the origins of the Art are quite fascinating. Once again, one must revisit the 'past' to grasp at what 'could' be. happy cubing!

[@nomutilisateur123456]

Awesome 👍🏻

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thanks 🤗

[@MatthewShapiroModular]

sick vid!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Thank you!

[@GlennArango]

What an OUTSTANDING video/tutorial! I'll need to see how far I can get with my 0-coast/0-ctrl to accomplish the same... thankS!!!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Happy patching! ⚡️

[@StudioOOMZ]

wow ❤

[@buckfarmer5354]

Thanks

[@mrcwalker33]

The message here is what is important. Great patch, but use what is there to create what you hear in your head. And while you do that, discover new things!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

⚡️🎶⚡️

[@sjh3217]

What I'd really like to see is a way to do swung/shuffled clocks on the Shared System. Based on what I've read in the Tempi specs it can't do that, at least not by itself.

[@kevincox1592]

I bought Maths not really knowing what it does, only that was highly recommended and a must-have. Now I'm finding that I do not have to buy a slew limiter or rectifier or...though it has take time to get here

[@King_0_Frod]

Better than my college philosophy class.

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Mission accomplished!!

[@chrs1968]

I don't know what you are saying but the music sounds good, I'm unsure about the maths or the behringer version

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

I love how many of MN modules are patch dependent for their function (no pun)

[@jackpalance3500]

I got the maths V1 , Do you think I could replace the use of Cycle input ( 3:20 ) in this patch, by feeding a voltage signal like a clock or gate on the inputs of a cycling channel ? or the fact of that missing patch point can't be walked around? its a good question for the topic of the video as I want to use what I already have , also probably not very experienced for now. still investigating

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

Patch the EOC output from Channel 4 to the input of a VCA. Patch your gate source to the VCA CV input, and the VCA output to Ch4 trigger input. Now while the gate is high the channel will retrigger itself each time the cycle ends.

[@TheMachinesWon]

Great video! Would the DUSG be able to do this as well? (I don't have a maths)

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

The core concept would be more or less possible, but it would require a number of supplemental modules to do it exactly like this. For example I'm not sure whether you could do the Cycle + retrig portion of it with a DUSG. Also anything involving attenuverters would need to be patched separately, and you'd need an additional mixer if you wanted to do the SUM out trick near the end of the video.

[@boydpost2066]

very cool technique...thanks for the video! I'm wondering how I would implement this with my OG Maths as it doesn't have a Cycle input...am I still able to make it work this way? Thanks again!

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

To replicate the Ch4 Cycle input, patch the EOC gate to the input of a VCA, and the gate you want to use to turn on Cycling to the VCA's CV input. Then patch the VCA's output to Ch4 Trigger. In order to also do the retriggering "sync" shown at about 5:07, you would need to OR or mix the VCA output with the other trigger before patching to the Ch4 trigger input, and make sure that you are using short triggers for it rather than longer gates. Because of the variable width of the EOC gate output, it might take some trial and error to get it to work just as it does in the video, but you could also stumble across fun new results!

[@boydpost2066]

@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC awesome...I'll give it a try!

[@bsbazzman]

👀

[@bobphillips2341]

Reaches for cable rack :)

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

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[@HatredPrime]

Would this work on Behringer abbacus?

[@PtheTinTHE]

hot lights

[@TheCALMInstitute]

I think the “module suggestion” vs “patch suggestion” thing that you’re talking about is really people who aren’t “thinking modular”. When people talk about their modular like a bunch of tiny voices rather than as a whole unit, I always wonder why they bother…seems pretty inefficient.

[@geertmaertens7372]

With the first cable you put in you already lost me... Please explain

[@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC]

This is a fairly advanced patch video - we recommend the "Starting from Zer0" videos if you want to get a nicely paced introduction to patching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaWlZpvhNaCb7M