HOW TO ALIGN YOUR LASER MIRRORS ON THE EPILOG FUSION EDGE

There are a few reasons why you want to make sure that your laser mirrors are aligned properly. Although it takes some time, it is well worth the result. This video walks through how to align your laser mirrors on the Epilog Fusion Edge. This process will also work on many other lasers.
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[@judylin2397]

Love the arrows u put beside the mirror adjustment screws. Genius!!! U are the first one I know to do this. Brilliant!!! Perhaps Epilog can learn from u and mark the arrows onto their machine parts. That will really help Epilog owners. U have helped me tremendously. Have a great day. Keep up the great work.

[@MakerExperiment]

I’ve requested that as an enhancement on new designs for what it’s worth.

[@christina413]

Thank you for posting this video! In my new job I will be working with an epilog mini and have to teach myself how to use it and maintain it working. Thus, I have been binge watching your laser vids all night to learn a lil more of what to expect. You have such a talent working with lasers and making concise and instructive vids on how to use them while still being entertaining ☺️

[@MakerExperiment]

I’m glad I could help!

[@RichardBrown]

I have to thank you for your awesome series of videos! I just had to replace my tube on my brand new Maker 12, and your instructions proved invaluable. Thanks for the awesome channel!

[@MakerExperiment]

I’m glad I could help. Definitely be sure to join the free community if you’re interested. You can always ask questions there if needed as well.

[@Sandbagsims]

Incredible videos. I am picking up an Epilog Fusion Edge 24 tomorrow so your videos have been incredibly helpful!

[@MakerExperiment]

I’m glad that you’ve found them helpful! If I helped in any way, I’d love to let Epilog know that.

[@Sandbagsims]

@@MakerExperiment I will be at an Epilog dealer in Phoenix tomorrow. I will let them know about your videos for sure. I have already emailed my rep about your latest comparison of the Glowforge vs the Epilog. Wonderful sales tool for them.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@Sandbagsims let me know if you end up having more questions. I’m glad the videos have been helpful.

[@donnambrown7305]

Awesome! I also became more educated about my machine in the process. Thanks!

[@MakerExperiment]

I’m glad I could help.

[@scottsatterlee8960]

Thank you Trevor, That helps immensely.

[@MakerExperiment]

I’m glad I could help.

[@marshallb2972]

Thank you for this video. Extremely helpful.

[@MakerExperiment]

I’m glad I could help.

[@BuiltForGreatness]

Excellent video. Thank you!

[@MakerExperiment]

Thank you.

[@storytellerHD]

Trevor this is incredibly helpful. BTW...I actually purchased my first Fusion Pro through Engraving Concepts. Great company. In all of this time I've never aligned my mirrors since the day we received it. Could be why I'm seeing variation in power in different parts of the table. Always thought it was probably just me (or the substrate).

[@MakerExperiment]

Glad to hear it helped. Have your settings improved with less variation? What made you buy an Epilog?

[@storytellerHD]

​@@MakerExperiment Well up until I saw your video I never saw the importance and didn't suspect the variation might be mirror misalignment. Had not occurred to me that even from the factory they could be "off". I always thought it was the acrylic or the wood species. Fearful of moving my work the slightest fraction upon job completion I'd have to press firmly down on the substrate to inspect. Even then the underside many times didn't cut all the way through. So annoying. Especially for high end puzzles with expensive mahogany. Increase power, slow the run speed down, up the frequency, etc...you know the drill. I'll follow your instruction and adjust my mirrors over this weekend sometime to see how bad it is. There's reference material in the manual as well but I like your presentation. What made me purchase the Epilogs (Fusion Pro 32)? Man, it was a really, really tough decision between this platform and Trotec equivalent. Today I like them both as they each have pros and cons. Epilog I like the most for it's super cool, time saving and awesome camera interface, though parallax is problematic if you're not mindful. Also, Epilog has slightly more work area space on the competing model. We never received the official training and mostly learned on the go...that's a testament though to superb documentation and the fantastic engagement of the Engraving Concepts crew here in D/FW.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@storytellerHD I’m glad you like it. We’re you supposed to receive a training from engraving concepts?

[@jenniferra1914]

I've been going crazy following the epilog pdf instructions, they say to focus the red dot to the burn mark when moving to each corner of the machine... you, however, focus to the center of the target which makes more sense. I'm just wondering what the reasoning would be to focus the red dot to the burn mark. any thoughts? just curious if I should follow your lead or there's. The instructions are identical other than that 1, very important, stipulation.

[@MakerExperiment]

You can do it either way. Both ways achieve the same end result. When I planned this video I worked closely with technicians and Epilog representatives. The reason for aligning the red dot to the laser mark is to ensure that they both hid the same spot. Otherwise you’ll have your red dot pointer hitting one area and the beam hitting another and you wouldn’t be able to trust the red dot.

[@DennyFab]

It's so your laser pointer is synced up with where the actual CO2 beam is going. Important to verify that, as it's crucial for the rest of the alignment

[@albatroshop360]

Thank you, you are very helpful.

[@MakerExperiment]

Glad I could help.

[@RaiderDilly]

sad thing is the darker color on the wood is not due to grain pattern. epilog has banding issues that many people have. Including myself...

[@Rustymb]

I lined up the red pointer with the burn spot initially in position 4, then I went through the steps and lined the mirrors (laser beam) and red pointer in the middle of the bull's eye when at position 1, 2, and 3, however, when the holder moved back to position 4 the red pointer (and laser beam) was not at the center of the bull's eye, but it was back aligned with the initial burned spot. Does this mean that 4 position is out of alignment? Should I try to align the mirrors and red pointer in the bull's eye at the 4th position?

[@MakerExperiment]

You should start in position 1 and move to 2, 3, and 4 in that order. There will be some back and forth between 3 and 4 until they both land within that center spot.

[@jeremydiais4337]

Bonjour, Vidéo très détaillé, bravo. Mon pointeur rouge est flou sur la cible, beaucoup de reflet, ce qui rend difficile le réglage, une idée du problème ? Fusion pro 48 bi source

[@MakerExperiment]

If I understood correctly, your red dot pointer is blurry and difficult to make it better. The only thing that comes to mind is make sure all of your mirrors are clean and use tape over the target if possible like I did. Just on the target, the red dot can be a little difficult to see and the tape helps make that a little more visible. I hope that helps.

[@imalamma6283]

Good job, good video

[@MakerExperiment]

Thank you!

[@dirokike]

Thank You for your help!!!. Do you have a video where you change the different mirrors?I have an Epilog Legend 36EXT.

[@MakerExperiment]

Not mirrors, just lenses.

[@dirokike]

@@MakerExperiment Do you mind sharing the link, I don't find it. I have to replace the mirror and lenses. I've been watching the video to align the mirrors. Thank You.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@dirokike here’s the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqnXfXxvodmGnNE

[@jeremydiais1916]

Super vidéo très intéressante. Possible d'avoir des sous-titres en français ?

[@MakerExperiment]

I’d have to look into if it can do it automatically. The trouble is most of my viewers prefer English, but I will look into it for the future.

[@beverleybhola9413]

thank you but why is my red dot pointer not showing

[@MakerExperiment]

It could be a couple things. 1. Have you made sure it’s turned on at the touchscreen? 2. If it is turned on, can you see it if you put your hand in front of the laser head? If so, your mirror may be so misaligned that it’s not hitting the target.

[@theshorteningoftheway276]

Is it safe to use the pew feature with the panels off?

[@MakerExperiment]

Technically no. If that’s something you attempt to do you have to be very cautious and do not go near anywhere the laser source would be firing.

[@channeldoug]

Trevor - I know it is very different than bed lasers. What about galvo mirror alignment? Or is more of a vendor required service?

[@MakerExperiment]

I honestly don’t know much about galvo lasers. I wish I could help.

[@ChristiMilligan]

So your Mirror #3 graphic and your hand drawn arrows don't correspond to turning the screws clockwise. The graphics show the two upper screws when turned clockwise should go the opposite direction as you drew them. Probably not that big of deal, but thought I would point it out so people could draw their arrows in the correct direction if they wanted to.

[@MakerExperiment]

The intent of my arrows was just the direction it’ll change the spot. It didn’t necessarily correlate to clockwise rotation but people can choose to do that if they wish.

[@robertlong6095]

Hi, great video. I'm having an issue where I can't find the red dot? I moved the screws around a bit, and I just can't find it? I replaced the tube on an Epilog Fusion Edge 24; wondering if you have any idea why? Could the mirrors be adjusted so that the red dot becomes visible? I am sure it's working as I took it off and pointed it at the wall, and the red dot shows there, just not on the target or even on my engraving table? I contacted Epilog support, but they don't seem to know either? Anyway, great video if you have any idea what could cause this, it would be a great help to me. Thanks!

[@MakerExperiment]

Have you checked out the tube replacement video as well to make sure it’s not something on that side? What I would do is put a piece of tape after each mirror like an inch away. Make sure the red dot is hitting after each mirror. That should help you narrow down the root cause.

[@robertlong6095]

@@MakerExperiment Yes, great video, but that's not it. I will try the tape idea, do you mean I put the tape over the mirror? Or in front of it? Do you mean I should hold it in front of each mirror and then adjust it until I see the red dot?

[@robertlong6095]

And thanks very much for your fast reply by the way.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@robertlong6095 put it between each set of mirrors. So tape between the pointer and the first mirror. Then between the first and second mirror and so on. That should help you figure out which mirror it’s not going past.

[@robertlong6095]

@@MakerExperiment Hi, thanks I managed to get the red dot back; it turns out I needed 4 new mirrors. However, now that I've replaced them, I followed your video tutorial on alignment, but for some reason, although I can now see a clear dot on the masking tape covering the target, the burn does not happen when I push the "pew" button. It's like the laser is pointed somewhere else, and I can't find where it's pointed so I can align the red dot with it? Any ideas from anyone would be great! Sorry if I'm annoying, I just have the holidays coming up, and I need to fix this. I tried adding a larger radius of masking tape to pick up the burn mark, but that did not work. I tried adjusting all the mirrors' positions but couldn't find it.

[@BuiltForGreatness]

Did you check your perpendicular alignment with the camera alignment? It was off when I did a test engraving so I had to align the 4th mirror with the camera at the focal length. Wondering if you had to do the same.

[@MakerExperiment]

I did the perpendicular alignment in the video near the end. The camera alignment is something that should be done independently typically. I’m not sure exactly what you did.

[@BuiltForGreatness]

@@MakerExperiment Yes, I did my camera alignment first and everything was fine. After the engraving, the camera view aligned with the engraving. However, after doing the perpendicular alignment, the engraving was no longer aligned with the camera so I had to adjust mirror 4 to align with the camera again. Wondering if you had the same experience because doing the perpendicular alignment didn't work for me.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@BuiltForGreatness I haven’t had that issue. I will say that sometimes, you may have to do things like that or even align the camera and do all your other alignments again after a mirror alignment. It can all be kind of a challenge at times.

[@carlosmagana386]

What would cause the laser to loose alignment?

[@MakerExperiment]

It could happen for a variety of reasons. • movement over time from the machine working • movement of the machine between locations • replacing the tube • hitting mirrors on accident It could happen for a variety of reasons.

[@benshi801]

What is the diameter for the 3rd mirror on laser head?

[@MakerExperiment]

I don’t remember off hand. I’m pretty sure it’s the same as the first two.

[@chunseobshin8006]

7:14 I pressed the "pew" button several times but the laser doesn't work. Why?

[@MakerExperiment]

Did you close the door? It won’t fire if the door is open.

[@chunseobshin8006]

@@MakerExperiment of course. The case with the metal tube is open. With the safety glass door on the top of the machine closed, I pressed the "pew" button a few times, but the laser didn't work. I also turned the power up to 15, but the laser didn't work. what could have gone wrong ? Once the lens position is moved to number 4 [bottom right, controller screen direction], when the red dot is turned on, the aiming target is missed a lot. So you need to position the laser.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@chunseobshin8006 are you saying the red dot isn’t even hitting the target? Without seeing what’s happening it’s hard to say what’s going on or how to fix it.

[@chunseobshin8006]

@@MakerExperiment I use google translator. When you press the pew button, the laser is activated and a black dot should appear on the masking tape. However, there is no response even when I press the pew button several times. This is the problem.

[@MakerExperiment]

@@chunseobshin8006 are you sure that it’s aligned well enough that it’ll hit? It could be that it’s not even hitting the target and that’s why you’re not seeing it. I’m not sure though.