Makes $237/hr Sawmilling His Own Lumber

[@johngrossbohlin7582]

The lumber from a big box store like Home Depot is surfaced on 4 sides (S4S) and kiln dried whereas the lumber coming off their sawmill is rough cut. As such apples are being compared to oranges... S4S and kiln drying requires more capital and labor to create... and thus retails for more. Ungraded rough cut sells for about 1/3 of what S4S sells for around here.

[@javaldes7]

Agreed. He is oversimplifying. What about cost to purchase, maintain, and run a sawmill? That was conveniently left out of his numbers. Not to mention property taxes to own the land he gets the trees from, the mini excavator, etc

[@brianmason6273]

Jesse, what you are saying is true as long as the materials produced are for personal consumption. But the moment you use these materials to trade for products or services then the value of the trade becomes taxable in the eyes of the IRS. Please be careful and do not expose yourself to outside scrutiny.

[@moparmatty98]

What are u smoking out there. I’m a AC mechanic. I make around 200k and guess what. I pay about 1100 a week in tax. Also you do pay tax on your lumber and you’re wine. You paid tax on your land

[@jamesthomson8659]

You got it. And he can't pay his annual land tax by barter. They stopped that centuries ago. (centuries might be an exaggeration but it was at least one)

[@bluebird5100]

Oh man this one is out there Jessie. It's only by getting paid on KZbin and social media that you are able to live. You cannot make enough wood or pick enough berries to buy that kx040 or the sawmill or the truck or trailer or telehandler. You did not trade for those items. You had to buy them by getting paid from social media.

[@TeddyRux20]

Its funny u think they live amazingly off of what they make on KZbin hahaha. They maybe maybe are making 100000 a year off of KZbin but they are probably more in the 50 to 60 k area. Social blade has them make 12k to 191k a year

[@bluebird5100]

@@TeddyRux20 so what are you getting at? The have jobs somewhere else?

[@javinsac]

Things I wish you calculated into lumber math. Saw mill cost, excavator cost, fuel, your labor/time the day before (wasn’t 4 hours) collecting logs, and chainsaw costs. All that stuff should factor into the math.

[@JohnnyMotel99]

Not forgetting the roads we drive on to the shops where we buy our materials, etc etc. No taxes, no roads.

[@hughjolly5769]

I hate to tell your math was off by a large margin. You didn't a percentage of equipment and fuel. Plus cost of harvesting the trees to mill. Just saying.

[@harolddomangue9206]

some people just dont think before they open their thoughts to others I said the same to Jessy minutes ago

[@MM-tw6cm]

hmmm how about the clothing needed to go out in public - how about the food necessary to gain the strength to go out in public- how about the taxes on the industry that produce thing but belch smog and such in the air so the govt taxes carbon emissions so we can breathe air i hate to tell.... no i dont- relax hugh - jessy is making a general statement with figures so we have a rough idea- there are no sliding rules no spread sheets just a rough abstract of basics

[@hughjolly5769]

I was giving him a friendly reminder there where something's he missed adding in to.the cost.

[@harolddomangue9206]

Another thought is the protective clothing and helmet he got for safty reasons when using chain saws all is cost to doing the job

[@harolddomangue9206]

I did the same reminding him of all cost to sawing lumber from tree to boards

[@thompwa1]

I guess that's true, if you don't count the time you spent cutting the trees, the mini ex that you used to haul the trees, the chainsaw that you used to cut them down, the truck that you used to haul them, the trailer that they were on, the sawmill that you used to cut them up, the fuel required by all of the above to run....The spirit of your statement is true, but it's a gross oversimplification.

[@caseykittel]

yes. so what is the full picture? --- - how much money do you have to spend to make your own lumber? most of these trade off just about pay for themselves if your lucky. I mean, after you buy the tools to build your own house and count the time you took to do the work - it would have cost the same to pay a contractor.

[@thompwa1]

Well, a $35,000 truck, $12,000 sawmill, $10,000 trailer, $30,000 mini ex, a $200 chainsaw, maintenance costs on them all, and property taxes on the land. So, it’s probably some pretty expensive lumber.

[@dopeykibbles1432]

Alex Thompson how many boards did he get? We could do some quick math

[@dopeykibbles1432]

On the other hand if he felled the tree with an axe, transported the logs using bugaboo as a mule and then sawn with a hand saw all in 4 hours I could understand what he’s getting at.

[@thompwa1]

Dopeykibbles 1 Legit lol’d at using bugaboo to haul the lumber

[@andywelburn432]

Hi Jesse, I hear what you're saying and I've no argument with it. I do think that you've left the value of all your tools and equipment out of your calculations though. If you take all your capital outlay and then allow for depreciation and running costs then your lumber is somewhat more expensive. Regardless of that, thank you to both you and Alyssa for all the extra work you put in to the videos.

[@corona271]

@@reddoctorm I suspect many of the tools are donated so that they can get exposure in the videos

[@michaelgraviett6616]

While I agree with everything that you said. You could have factored in the cost of the saw mill and the Kubota that you’re using to gain such efficiency because those 2 peace’s of equipment exponentially increase your production.

[@cfield1468]

Did you factor in the cost of the machinery, tools and property taxes?

[@lyndamcardle4123]

I guess they didn't but, if self-employed, it would be tax-deductable...however, it's all related to a domestic scenario so probably not !

[@jimsteele9261]

Tinfoil hat's wrapped a little tight today, Jesse. :)

[@cdhewko]

People value different things, some people see high value in taxes and the services they provide. Others prefer to live with less of these services and produce products that they value for others. Many farmers live everyday producing value like yourselves. It's a preference thing. It's great to see that you really thought things through and except things as they are. Now.. for those that think they don't pay taxes, tools and vehicle maintenance. Watch the history, they pay less taxes not none. They still buy products and pay the taxes associated with that's product's production. I don't know about the rest of you, but I enjoy watching this lifestyle more than living it. It does bring back some great memories of my grandfathers and grandmothers. They were farmers. Thanks for recording, producing, and sharing this content. I really appreciate it.

[@javaldes7]

How about factoring in the cost of the sawmill, maintenance, and cost of operation? Plus what about cost of land? Property taxes? This calculation is way over simplified to fit the narrative. I respect and agree with the message, but dont start throwing numbers out without telling the whole story

[@JR-yl8qi]

$10K for a sawmill, $35k for Mini-E, although they used a cheaper tractor prior to this episode. Those costs would need to be amortized into each piece of lumber. I agree with his assessment tho. Instead of using your taxed liquidity make stuff yourself. I bet they sell most equipment once the house build is over, so the amortized value in each piece of lumber will go down, making it more valuable. You can bet taxes were in those transactions and would be when they sell them.

[@user-sl8gg2zk3g]

I'm a cardiac surgery resident, and I am confused as to what value means to you?, it's seems like you are saying that a surgeons value is only monetary? I consider the value or worth of a surgeon as someone who saves lives and cares for other people. Granted I am supported by my business which enables me to quit my job at any time, but I stay because I love my job!. Love your videos and agreed with most of what you said re taxes though, I think you are trailblazing a path for many to overcome modern consumerism and I applause you for that

[@KoalityofLife]

Ummm. I'm pretty sure KZbin is a job in it self. It takes a lot of time to record, edit, and upload videos. So technically you do have a J O B. Just sayin. lol :)

[@jamesthomson8659]

Technically he is an independent content creator.

[@briananderson3620]

You forgot all the time you spent the last 4 days to cut down the trees plus fuel and equipment maintenance.

[@dennisstubbs3164]

You are absolutely right in your explanation. Should you also put the cost of the sawmill, fuel, and repair and maintenance in the cost of the boards?

[@jeremygenslinger4874]

The sawmill already paid for itself during the timber frame milling it's the cost of fuel for the equipment that needs deducting from the total and maybe a favor or ten for his sister's help

[@DesertHomesteader]

@@jeremygenslinger4874 I wonder if it really has paid for itself. Those sawmills cost in the tens of thousands. The boards/beams they produce are generally higher quality, so maybe...

[@kvn08cosmo]

@@DesertHomesteader I don't know a lot of this guys story, but I would say it has definitely paid for itself. He used it to cut ALL of the timber for his home.

[@BOXTERS32]

Jessie.. are you having to run the saw mill with a small amount of choke on?..to keep it going?..if so remove the carburetor and clean out the main jet and emulsion tube..might have had moisture in the fuel which will get in the float bowl eventually...let me know what you find.

[@scrapdude4118]

I think he could get away with running a little sea foam

[@1tommymulligan]

Aren't you paying Tax on the cost of your property when bought or Property Tax annually?

[@rjkdev]

Plus, he didn't figure in the cost of the Saw Mill, Chain Saws, excavator, supplies, power, fuel, etc. Might have been just as cheap to buy cheap stud lumber for interior stick walls, and sell the beautiful bug lumber to someone who could use it to make furniture or something..........

[@_-martin-_]

What a repulsive tax rant. As a Scandinavian I find this notion of "not wanting to pay any tax" very narrow minded and hypocritical. In my country we say that the ones with the widest shoulders should carry the weak, meaning the rich helps the poor by paying more tax. Also, paying tax is an act of solidarity - in my country of Denmark, we accept paying taxes so that all can benefit from government services such as education, healthcare, infrastructure, forest service, child care, consumer protection agency, fire department, police, etc. These are key services to create a thriving and happy society - in other words, we care about our entire fellow population, not just our local community. I know that people in America do not like to pay tax but that is mainly because the ROI (return of investment) is very low because you dummies spend half your tax budget on useless endless wars and the remaining taxes go into services that are heavily broken such as your broken educational system and crumbling infrastructure - all broken by your corrupt politicians taking money from corporations.

[@bdtews]

Sure you do.

[@thomasperkins141]

The problem is, in the United States there are many people who live off of the welfare system who do not want to work. It would be ideal if it was only the people who really needed help and couldn't work could depend on the stronger ones to work, but unfortunately the welfare system here is one of the main things that needs fixed. There are too many people who are taking advantage of the system and will not work because they don't want to. There are plenty of jobs here if one wants to work. And even though a lot of our government is corrupt and we do not live in a perfect world, this is a better country to live in than a lot of other countries in the world, so watch your criticism about the United State of America.

[@bobstuerke7993]

How wonderful for you. And thats why we live in America.

[@jima7925]

@Martin can you give us some insight to your health care system? I heard there is some movement toward private health care insurance but dont understand the details. And are wait times for service acceptable? Thanks

[@richx9324]

Nice theory but i bet your property tax has been going up because you have a house on it creating more value ..they get you anywhere

[@Desert2GardenLV]

This is the most useful result of your OCD overthinking ways EVER. Thanks for explaining all this in your way.

[@edduffer1637]

lol and now with that video title... expect the IRS to be knocking on your door for an Audit...

[@cydoniaquest]

I'm a full time futures trader for a living and you're right about the capital gains tax...I pay a blended rate between long term and short term capital gains, and it comes out essentially like a flat tax. 60% is at the long term capital gains rate of 15%, while 40% of the profit is taxed at the short term rate of 35%.....I think that comes out to around like 23% (don't quote me on that)...But it's essentially a flat tax.....Not graduated no matter how much I make...It's flat....

[@stan.rarick8556]

I would seriously consider a pole shed for the mill (and another for the equipment). Keep the value in your equipment high. 😊

[@hoffmantnt]

Excellent content. Thanks for sharing! BTW you might need to divide your hourly rate by 2 since you have two people working on the lumber.

[@conan257]

If you like roads, protection services through police and the military, fire department or anything else the government supports through taxes, you’re removing the money that pays for them. If everyone lived off-grid and stopped paying tax, there would be no police etc....

[@AndyFromm]

So thats bad?

[@Blenderite]

Sounds great to me. Believe or not, the private sector has taken up the slack of the government for a long time, and they have done it infinitely better, more efficient and cheaper than the government will ever do anything.

[@FirstLast-sr5ht]

the government doesn't actually do any of that work, they just hire companies to do it. (usually with side deal shenanigans). and then outlaws all competition... so they decide who does what, and what you get for the money you pay them. and if you don't like it, too bad. you get what you are given

[@vaultsjan]

@@FirstLast-sr5ht As non US citizen who time to time visits US. I must say you pay more than (khm Europeans) and you get little for the money.

[@Apes_love_BMX]

I don't care what you do with your time or money. I just want you to finish the home!

[@thistledownwoodcraft3426]

Preach brother. Btw, when the black helicopters circle the house, don't go outside. :)

[@dredge999]

What are the input costs for the things you produce? I would imagine you have a very long way to go until you pay off that sawmill (via lumber produced). So what you are really doing is paying off the sawmill, not making "money" as you term it. Also, you likely paid for the land that contains the timber. This is also an input cost. I completely agree with what you are saying regarding taxes but I don't think you discussed the startup costs for your example and that's something very important. Your thoughts on the consumption culture and slavery to the current system are spot on. My goal has always been to be debt free and we have been completely out of debt for years. No debt = freedom.

[@jba6677]

I made $240 dollars in 4 hours! It only cost me 20k in equipment.

[@bobs8831]

Backhoe, 50k used, conservative. Excavator, 20k used. Wonder what was bartered for that value?

[@aaronjodoin3320]

@@bobs8831 Don't ask, Don't tell. LOL

[@jamesthomson8659]

@@bobs8831 Actually they gave the price of the backhoe in one of the videos and it was surprisingly low.

[@RoopeFromFinland]

Did you calculate the time it took to take those trees there?

[@jonathantamm9202]

I agree in principal but you are missing out on a few important details. You are using an excavator to load your band saw that you needed money to buy and keep fueled that cost needs to be factored in. And the chain saw to to fell the trees. The longer it lasts and the cheaper it is to run the better that's why for your bore you used a contractor v buying the equipment.

[@jpowe501]

Jump to 14:00 if you don't want to watch the opening monologue. Monologue restarts at 21:00.

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

diatribe 😂

[@hankus253]

And when the available trees have been harvested what then?

[@PatrickPoet]

Plant more trees. Trees cut should equal new trees planted.

[@kbschoonerbrady6896]

But Jessie you need to divide by 2 as you had 2 people to do that work

[@lucasdog1]

forgot to divide the cost of the sawmill, chain saw, gas and oil, truck and trailer, property, and what ever else it took to produce that lumber, by the number of boards made to date. A $5000 dollar mill cutting one board makes the price of that board about $5000, less any resale value of the used mill, assuming you got the tree for free, the fuel for free, and had a spot to set up the mill for free. Otherwise, yeah.... cheap lumber. Once you have the materials and the factory established, you can make your new car for next to nothing.

[@keesdejong4609]

Skip to 13.50 to see the sawmill

[@crdorado1195]

I've had a woodmizer LT40HD for the last 35 years. Just updated the engine last month. Best investment I have EVER made.

[@annatom2]

How much did the saw mill cost?

[@hankdoughty4375]

Yes he paid for the mill and equipment but how much money did he save in lumber and timber framing materials. That small amount of tax was equalized out in a very short period of time. You can also barter lumber for services.

[@netpilot5]

@Hank Doughty Barter is taxable. Using what you produce is not.

[@RANDOG1951]

Your leaving out a few things. Planned obsolescence for the Kobata, saw mill, initial equipment costs. If you keep milling, the cost to have the truck loads of wood. You've already had loads come in during the build. Agreed the mill will pay for itself X's over. In 96 an operater and his excavater cost me $65 an hour, Owner pocketed about $25 an hour until break downs and major break downs cost $1000.00's. Continued success.

[@seagullag]

Jessey and Alyssa, you are an inspiration. Both dedicated, focused and humble. You share everything you know and learn on the way. I watch how hard you work and congratulate you for all your achievements. Nobody has the right to criticize what you do. That’s proper of unhappy and envious people.

[@tek6423]

Verbose. Unrealistic. Also, he gave a long lecture to tell me that net pay is different than gross pay. Geez.

[@Tarheel_Pyro]

I agree you're saving money and I admire you guys for trying to do everything yourself. You have money in the trees because I assume you had to buy the land it came from. Also the cost of the machinery, new spark plug and filters, new blades, fuel to run everything, etc, etc. Kind of overstating the numbers but I still enjoy you're content!

[@meg9570]

I would never criticize how you spend your $$. You earn it you can spend it how and where you like. Just a note on average a Heart surgeon will make aproxamatly $185.00 an hour. They earn it, they save lives. So at that rate they would make (again aproxamatly and as an average) $1,480.00 in an 8 hour day. Like I said just an observation.

[@RevMarket]

Did you factor the surgeons tax payments?

[@happycamper9300]

Great video, you are mostly right. The concept is sound, but the numbers has flaws. When you buy fuel, and equipment you need currency

[@buchwaldt123]

You are oversimplifying because you use also public material like roads, safety, Police, Air safety, fire brigade, etc. and when you do not pay taxes you are stealing from the public goods.

[@scrapdude4118]

He still pays property taxes fuel taxes phone service taxes electrical service taxes ... he isn't stealing from anybody...

[@vertigoalopolus]

@@scrapdude4118 Public services work when the tax take can pay for it in a predictable manner. By reducing your payable tax, youre lowering your contribution available to public services. This wouldnt be an issue, however, if the government didnt spend such a ridiculous amount on boondoggles like the military.

[@jamesthomson8659]

@@vertigoalopolus The Military, the Police, and the Justice system protect your property rights and all your other constitutional rights.. They are the cost of freedom. But maybe America has too big a military?

[@roelfindoors6767]

Sorry bro, lately... you have started to talk to much

[@mactexas]

Do you pay property tax? You really don't own your property, just fall behind in your property tax and you will see who owns your property.

[@jedidiah5131]

Thats not the point....

[@madeinholland2066]

Jedidiah = Jesse!

[@tearalewis7532]

You missed the point...

[@PiaLiljebladh]

I totally understand your reasoning, and without picking sides, I just want to mention that there’s more to consider. If your’re not paying any taxes, is it still morally ’right’ for you to benefit from all ’things’ in society that are funded by taxes? Not that it would ever happen, but if you managed to convince everyone to live life kinda like you, then no one would be paying taxes, and how would the world be without all these ’things’?

[@eskimoglenn]

Probably get the one percent that hide their money off shore,get the Amazons and Costas, in this world, to pay their fare share instead of the ninety nine percent supporting the one percent.

[@FirstLast-sr5ht]

(country-running/taxes/govt/currency) is a people-farming business that is extremely profitable. there is no other way to become the richest in the world without farming people (unfairly, obviously). what would happen is, the 1% elite people-farmers would lose their 90% of the worlds wealth, which would end up making everyone else''s work worth 10x more than it is now just math

[@MrTynet3]

IRS enters chat

[@dopeykibbles1432]

I wonder how much tax they had to pay on that saw mill, digger, land and fuel

[@markstegemeyer4976]

One wonders how your numbers look once you subtract out the cost of an excavator and sawmill from your lumber; the cost of gasoline, time, bottles and other equipment from your mead; the cost of a well and seeds and jars for preserving from your garden... Maybe I'm wrong, perhaps you plan an episode in the near future where you repair the roads out front of your property. Have you got plans to whittle circuit breakers from those logs? Are you saving your hair to weave wire? When do you intend to explain how growing your own potatoes provides internet connectivity? My guess is that if it were not for a great deal of help from a large number of "slaves" you'd be sitting in the dirt wondering where your next meal was coming from.

[@iordachej]

The guy just gave you a simple advice: if you can do it yourself, do it instead of wasting time. Because the result worths more than the value you think it has

[@anneamcgrath]

He Is His Own Manager - he relies on no one, not anyone - He Eats The Entire Pie!

[@regm5180]

Are there no land taxes in the states? wouldn't those logs be taxed before they even hit the mill?

[@RJCOutdoors]

Reg M There is also only a finite supply of timber. Its also only as valuable as a supply demands it. Its not useful with trade in every aspect. Taxes used well are a positive thing to a community. I get well maintained roads, free education, free healthcare because for the most part my taxes are used to benefit the community. While it’s definitely not perfect there are positives to it.

[@xylker]

@@RJCOutdoors Not sure how you get "free education, free healthcare." What you get is no bill at the point of consumption. Which of course drives bad behavior (not necessarily your bad behavior) because there's no feedback received when you use the "free stuff."

[@RJCOutdoors]

xylker yes this is a true comment. No bill at consumption no matter how much consumption. Whats the majority of the bad habits though? You will always have the abusers. It doesn’t negate the wide positivity of its consumption.

[@jesperhviid9625]

In Denmark we pay taxes to our country and community, not to a government. Most of us find it fair because it reduces the amount of cocitizens that have to live a life in slavery. Even then you can still use your free time to build and produce your own stuff. I enjoy following what you are doing and that you pay a lot of “taxes” in the way you are living and cooperating with your neighbours.

[@133dave133]

I'm not from Denmark, but I'm guessing that you DO pay taxes to your government. With that being said, your government must be a lot less corrupt than ours, because you guys actually get functioning benefits.

[@jesperhviid9625]

Yes the statistics say that 9 out of 10 danes think it is ok to pay taxes. We pay around 50% taxes. Some more and some less. And on top of that 25% VAT. Cars are appr 2,5 times your prices and petrol 2 times. Education, health, social security and more are for free. It is actually a question of sharing and danes are not poor!

[@4philipp]

It’s the work/life balance that makes it work in Europe. Americans are more primed to strive for success and consumption, hence they work more and life less.

[@JohnnyMotel99]

So much that we depend on has been paid for by our taxes, roads, rail, airports, the list is huge.

[@knis01]

The reason your having problems with your sawmill is because you lending it out to people who treat it like it's someone elses property. I know your shaking your head thinking my freinds wouldn't do that, yes they would!

[@JPM944]

Pretty sure if your spending money, you paid taxes on that money!

[@Paul-dc6sp]

I thought about this a few years ago when I re-textured my 1750 s.f. house. I probably saved $3000 in labor. I looked at it as making $3000 of tax free money. Took me about 3 days. $1000/day after taxes. I noticed that you wear eye and hearing protection. I find it interesting how many mill without eye and hearing protection.

[@chrischristenson4547]

I am glad you work very hard and earn your way in the world. I choose a different path doing the chemistry I greatly enjoyed We should choose paths that make our lives a joy Best wishes

[@IBIZAFRESH]

Hi Jessie, i get where you coming from, but didn't your sawmill cost some money, maybee deduct that from your board price...

[@DHarri9977]

Have you ever heard the term of something paying for itself? I think that would relate to the sawmill given the amount of wood from the property being produced and used one way or another but mostly for the house.

[@SuperKingslaw]

So how much lumber did you use to pay for your airplane (without using dollars)?

[@doreestone4487]

I'm sorry. Did I miss the part where he said you never have to use actual currency for anything? I never heard him say that. What I did hear him say is that you should produce as much as you can for yourself and your family. By doing so, you will pay less in taxes and pay less overall for the things you use. But for some reason you feel the need to make a snarky comment, apparently based in a jealous fit that you don't have your own airplane. My husband and I had an airplane, a Cessna. We weren't anywhere close to rich. We lived in a travel trailer, not even a mobile home. But he loved flying and it was important enough to him to have that plane that we did what we had to do to get it. I just love leftists who try to play guilt trips on people without knowing anything about the person. Maybe, if you listen to this man, you too can have a lovely house, heavy equipment, and even an airplane. But I don't think you are willing to admit that you don't have all the answers, so you'd rather try to poke holes in this man's ideas. Which is really kind of funny, since he's the one with all those things and he did it based on his own ideas, not yours.

[@espears6606]

@@doreestone4487 Ha 🤣 well said 👍

[@jamesthomson8659]

@@doreestone4487 No, you didn't miss any part. But you don't understand basic economics. He didn't make the lumber for his own use. He made it to trade. Specifically he made it to try and not pay his fair share of taxes. He thinks he's being smart. He wants the benefits of your constitution but he isn't ready to pay the price of freedom. Where does the money to pay your Armed Forces come from? Taxes. He's just like Trump. He wants his constitutional rights but doesn't accept his responsibility of paying taxes.

[@jakes.1199]

JESSIE. Everybody is different right? I have a feeling the way you came across will be less popular than your usual happy go lucky self. However the "edgy-ness" you had in this video....is probably one of my favorite videos you guys have done. Bravo, excellent points you made, no reasonable person can argue with your logic on this video. Thanks for sharing, staying on point, and................ how about do it more often. Give us a piece of your mind, if its something like this.

[@jamestate7851]

After seeing this video I think the IRS will show up to his house.

[@jamesthomson8659]

Unlikely, but it sure would be a fun video.

[@jtmack77]

The flaw in this logic is nothing in this life is free. You worked a J O B and saved, then cashed out to buy what you have now. And now you have a JOB on KZbin to supplement your "freedom" to produce for yourself, and all the time that entails. Having said that, you are doing the best you can in the 'system'.

[@bigearlrrr]

has he ever said if he had a Job before this adventure, or did he get hand outs from mom and dad to do this , Hum

[@jedidiah5131]

@@bigearlrrr He had several jobs.....

[@4philipp]

It’s impossible to life separate from the system, unless you go back to the Stone Age.

[@latent4407]

Multipling by 10 is hard.

[@boondogle123]

Did you Amortize the cost of the sawmill, gas, heavy equipment and maintenance costs into the Value of the lumber you created.

[@jrgt628]

of course not this is KZbin

[@zolotiyeruki]

Insourcing is a powerful thing. Get a few tools and a Haynes manual, and spend a little bit of time learning on youtube, and you can do 90% of your own car work. The same goes for so many other things we pay others for--simple plumbing or electrical work, landscaping, etc.

[@gofast18]

Not paying Social Security taxes may hurt you when you're older your children hopefully will not have to take care of you

[@davidrobards9587]

Not if you save you will have lots more then social security. Disability is another thing. But he has worked j o b s. So he would get some disability from ss.

[@mikesheahan6906]

Don't say that too loudly, or the Gov will find a way to tax your boards.

[@sbd4de3]

Man, if I could like this video more than once I would!! Great topic and information, hope you get millions of views!!!

[@jojoc9240]

If you buy 50000 worth of tools you can have all the lumber you need the plant new trees and wait 20 years and do it again

[@guytech7310]

That mini-excavator cost more than $50K alone.

[@eltonray2934]

The way of life you are describing is how this country started and is still lived by many farmers who rely on their skills and not the government. On your sawmill engine check the fuel lines, plastic pump and carburetor for deterioration from the alcohol in your fuel.

[@verohandymike]

I've always said a guy living in a hut on 10 acres of (farm)land is much better off than a middle class american family living in a nice suburban house with a hawk eyed HOA!

[@markbullock3741]

True, but if I remember right, he is cutting trees (25-50-year-old trees) off of 2.5 acres. Modern forestry says it takes 400 acres planted in loblolly pine to sustain the lifestyle of a modern family.

[@htpadventures3989]

You better be careful, your gonna get SWAT teamed in the middle of the night.

[@soulbreak8794]

How do you find someone to buy your lumber? Thanx, cool videos

[@gardenrailroading]

You are doing a great job and I love that you are doing it yourselves. Knowing that it is done your way, the correct way!

[@woodcell1962]

Didn't you have to invest $20,000 or whatever in a sawmill to get your "free" lumber. I'm sure you have saved over $20,000 in lumber but I think you need to account for your investment in your wood calculations.

[@annatom2]

shhhh

[@joshd79]

And what did the property cost? lol that lumber cost him 1000’s

[@ared18t]

Lt 15 is 8k bro

[@msheeleypg9939]

You buy your trees cheap,saw it and sell it for higher and the Sawmill Men/Women makes the most money in the lumber industry. There you go

[@rodneyr2658]

Favorite video so far! I like all your videos but this is now my favorite one! I hope you can talk more about the things you spoke of today! Economical ways of living, being free, Im so glad you foraged for the mushrooms; that's something i already currently had been looking into. Thank you for this! Much appreciated!

[@lpabildgaard]

Taxes are what you give back to the community?

[@areliablesource2848]

Does he drive on a road that was built with tax money? How about the security that provides for freedom to be able to run that saw mill?

[@Mounty621]

Jesse, there is no need to justify what you do to the naysayers. Many folks have no clue the joy you get from making things with your own hands. Keep up the great work and take pride in the fact you and Melissa are doing it your way and making money to boot.

[@jenholbrook1263]

Agreed! It's not about the money, it's the satisfaction of creating and building. There are many ways of saving, investing,living a minimal lifestyle or working for an honest wage. All are commendable and don't have to be justified. It's about what makes You happy!

[@briang2981]

Went deep on this one! I love it!

[@auntym4729]

Do you pay property tax?

[@RevMarket]

Check Idaho rules about property tax?

[@auntym4729]

Thanks that was interesting

[@garrettf4435]

This needs to go viral!

[@hickoryridgehomestead9177]

I have been preaching this very thing for years. I'm glad to see that there are other people out there that think the same way that I do!

[@lucasjohnson6254]

Looking at getting my own sawmill. how do you find your timber? I'm having issues

[@purplepill2024]

It's on the property that he bought. He's not accounting for the cost of buying the land - he thinks lumber is just free.

[@msheeleypg9939]

The Sawmill guys make the most money in the lumber industry. And try to contact Forestry or tree nursery that will help.

[@mariowickel456]

Jesse as my Dad used to say "listen to ignorant chatter with 2 ears in one out the other" !! Love your videos , be true to yourself, keep on keeping on

[@mattlane7888]

Please ensure you back out all expenses and capital expenditures employed in your calculation. That said I really value what you guys are working toward and how you are doing it!

[@460mustang5]

I think you forgot to factor in the time for cutting the trees down, bucking the logs, loading and unloading, etc?

[@anneamcgrath]

460 mustang Hi Mustang - He Is Working For Himself - not some corporate miser...

[@jenholbrook1263]

Even when working for yourself you still have to factor in time and equipment purchased for a valid ROI.

[@edmundduvel9122]

What about your KZbin money??

[@martinw245]

Yep, must pay tax on that surely. And it must be substantial.

[@jamesthomson8659]

@@martinw245 Business tax rate. Probably the excavator,etc are claimed as business expenses so are eligible for capital depreciation allowances. Brain surgeons incorporate as well to reduce taxes and they don't have to spend time bartering. They hire people to do the grunt work and take profit on other people's Labour. Jessie needs to read Adam Smiths book the Wealth of Nations. Doing everything your self isn't efficient.

[@ExtraFungus]

Drain the bowl on the carburator. Fuel with ethanol in it will pull moisture out of the air separating in your tanks and carburator bowl. Drain the bowl, make sure there's no separation in the fuel tank and if the machine is going to sit for any time at all, let it sit with ethanol free stabilized gas. Don't store equipment or old cars with ethanol blended fuels, especially if it has a steel tank.

[@markc9078]

If people had to bring a check to work every Fri. night to pay taxes before they got their pay check they might start to wonder where the tax money was going.

[@dcmike1967]

one thing i tell everyone that listens to me is do not make bills, since i didn't make any im able to just work 3 days a week for last 8 years now and just do as i want

[@Prepared_Suburbanite]

Gawd! I hope my democrat congressman does see this or he'll figure out a way to tax you and me on what you just described. Well done Jesse!

[@SennekerProductions]

Video starts at 13:48

[@einargud3307]

That speech hit the spot. I liked it. But here's a thinker.. I value my time. For example: I get my car washed and waxed for me. It costs me about 1,5 hour worth of work. If I do it it will take me probably around 6-8 hours alone if I want to do it properly. And because I'm a freelance designer with plenty of projects running I rather work on those for. Not quite what you were saying but many people around me tell me it's a waste of money to get your car washed when it's "so easy" to do it yourself.

[@jamesthomson8659]

You are a first rate capitalist. You want your car washed and it cost less of your time to have a specialist do it for you. Your time is money. Spend it wisely. I bet if you needed something welded you'd hire a welder to do it for you, You wouldn't waste your time learning how to do it yourself.

[@einargud3307]

@@jamesthomson8659 Sounds about right. Everything but the welding part. I fix and build everything myself. I'm in the middle of renovating my house atm. I've done everything except the plumbing. I've made tiny mistakes and learned from them but a tiny mistake on plumbing could lead to a catastrophe. I love learning new skills and I love trying out new things. I washed my cars for many years before hiring someone else to do it. It's a task I don't like and time I could spend doing something else. :)

[@robertmartin2387]

How you spend YOUR money is nobody else's concern,its YOUR money.

[@robinstone564]

He makes it our concern by producing content that we consume.

[@dustinsnowbear]

The king wants a goat, 6 eggs and a basket of potatoes. 😁

[@cgregornik]

This by far is the best video you have ever put out! Agreed, working for yourself or at anything you love is the most rewarding; once again great video.

[@arnoldlayne1424]

Someone criticized you so you say "they're probably broke". It's KZbin, grow a skin.

[@joshd79]

Lynn Dunn broke = can’t afford land and a huge sawmill

[@keesdejong4609]

Easy anwser..