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@Nebul3r2 жыл бұрын
best tutorial on the internet, really appreciate it, supporting your channel from Afghan / Balchistan
@Outofthedust2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I followed along and built my own as i watched and it works perfectly!
@junaidvoice.1428 ай бұрын
Are you sure I want also Make it because it is very expensive in our country 😢 tell me if it works in rc planes
@IdShift3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this excellent contribution to the fpv hobby.
@InTheSh811 ай бұрын
In Cyprus, I cannot order from Hobbyking anymore. The Lipos here are ridiculously high priced. I might get some Li-Ions still from China and they are quite cheap. I recently got some Samsung 28A 4.3v out of an old laptop. Soldered them together to 2S. They cannot power a 1/8 scale brushless car. But a Flying Fish is totally possible. I am impressed. If they are new, man, would really save me some money. Made a 3S pack today to support a 3S lipo in my 1/8 scale in parallel. Works.
@simonwood86853 жыл бұрын
Is there a way off making some sort of 3d printed carrier with wiring all ready installed balance leads and charging leads. so you could just put your cells in and you have a battery pack?
@selvacinema4241 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Isn’t it dangerous if some solder drips into the + button? I was always told that if metal gets in there the battery can overheat and explode.
@tomcook58133 ай бұрын
Can I follow the same instruction for lipo?
@19pagenotfound854 жыл бұрын
the best tutorial ever. so clear. thankyou so much.
@Tvpc19713 жыл бұрын
Have you tried chilling the batteries for an hr in the fridge before soldering them? Sounds plausible that would prevent internal damage.
@skyraidfpv67534 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you made this video. I have two 21700 5000mah cells and need to make a battery for my Radiomaster TX16s.
@hardshake73243 жыл бұрын
How much amps can u pot on the Cells? do they have an indicator? like 10c 20c aso. ?
@aleksandrsposts34844 жыл бұрын
Hi! Do you have an instruction on how to make 2s2p? Soon will arrive my Volantex Ranger V2 1200 and I would like to power it with extended 2s li-ion. May be you have any recommendations? Thank you!
@gordonbickel71823 жыл бұрын
Cannot find how to make them
@allaniman8829 Жыл бұрын
New to rc hobby and don't have any knowledge about batteries. My question is which plug will you use for charging? the balancer or the T-plug?
@moonnight3847 Жыл бұрын
So in my country is very hard to find rc batteries for rc airplanes, with this here I can use to power my setup? The lead with the 3 wires go to the reciver right?
@bislong3655 ай бұрын
Lead with 3 wires for charging. 😅 Rt?
@davideliasfloresescalante8840 Жыл бұрын
Great video. What kind of cables did You used for doing this? Thanks in advance
@lancelotkillz8 ай бұрын
Awesome video straight to the point.. love your enthusiasm we could be good friends lol
@jlarson424 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thanks for sharing.
@stigonutube3 жыл бұрын
Hi, what are you using to charge up these 2s 18650 packs? does it need a balance charger or how does that work..i'm building some packs "from laptop batteries unprotected" for my kids cheap rc but im a bit of a newbie to some aspects of charging machines and 2s packs.
@RagTheNutsOff3 жыл бұрын
Yea don't use laptop batteries. Why would you use somebthing that has had thousands of cycles on over your or your kids heads when they are so cheap new? (I have never seen the logic in this) As for charging, a standard RC battery charger doss the balancing for you. Matt
@stigonutube3 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff hey matt,thank's for your reply..this pack of 6 i got in mind only had a year on the laptop but yeah i get what your advising. RC car will be on the ground but same difference..so one of those ebay imax b6ac would do the job?
@RagTheNutsOff3 жыл бұрын
@@stigonutube yea I had one of those for more than a year. They work well. I ended up with two quad chargers in the end as I get through so many batteries in one days flying 😅
@stigonutube3 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff ok mate, happy flying..good video by the way,it has helped me a lot. Cheers from Australia
@stigonutube3 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff hey mate, been a while just wanted advise on my pack that i built.? i did take your advise and bought some new 2x2600mah sony vtc5a 35a discharge 18650, 14awg silicon wire for + and minus and balance lead as you have my problem is 2s pack gets very hot im talking 46.5c degrees at full discharge in my WL toys 550 motor 7.4v RC Car about 15-20min run time..RC goes great but seems hot?, your thought's please?
@MGee14 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why Nickel is used instead of copper for connecting the cell terminals?
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Probably for conductivity and cost. Both will be fine though. Oh and nickel is preferred for spot welding. Matt
@davidbarker3591 Жыл бұрын
Unless you have a real strong spot welder, you can't spot weld copper, too conductive. If you are using hi drain cells like Samsung 25R, and soldering, use copper. It can handle 4x the amperage than nickel.
@brentfairley51563 жыл бұрын
Hello sir.The way you wired these packs does this double the amps, let's say if each battery had 10 amps total amp that could be draw from each battery does this mean that both combine is 20 total amp
@prakashsuryawanshi62113 жыл бұрын
I can use this pack of 2s my cordless drill machine?
@kennethmclean8723 жыл бұрын
do you think you could build one with enough c rating for a rc race car 2s?
@JerryCalverley3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at doing this a while now. Thanks! New sub!
@wadedittus35522 жыл бұрын
Thank you, yours was the most informative and simple. Is these suitable for hubsan 501s?
@joblearn10143 жыл бұрын
any alternatives for nickel strip and insulater ring. because I have all the things except both of them please help?
@youngmangoingwest3 жыл бұрын
Here’s where I’ve found myself. Bought several 18650 and a charger for my jumper tx. Got some more to build packs based on your video. … And saw a dump battery holder package. So I’m now thinking what’s the big advantage of building fixed packs versus putting separate cells into packs then charging them separately? Of course thats just a bit bigger and a bit less convenient. But seems to me not a lot. Thoughts?
@ThanHtutZaw33 жыл бұрын
It is Same with bms ?
@19pagenotfound854 жыл бұрын
can i use lg choco vape battery for that project for my rtr rc truck?
@audiokees4045 Жыл бұрын
Normally it is forbidden to solder them, maybe she will damage or explode/burn easyer. Oke, I have thse bms board for 2S only when the batteries are not yet empty the board do not switch to charge mode. Is this normal? the voltage of 8.4 volts stays on, and so when connect a charger it gets problems, what I need to ste charge mode? maybe higher voltage input? I do charge with 5 volts.
@justinlipscomb19883 жыл бұрын
How could I make this work for a dji mavic mini 1. Is it possible?
@RagTheNutsOff3 жыл бұрын
Howdy Justin, no idea I never seen one up close before.
@fabwiss9713 жыл бұрын
Hello i want to ceate one li=ion for my futaba T14sg on 2S think you is possible to works with my radio ? thanks .
@RagTheNutsOff3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea on that tx. Matt
@fabwiss9713 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff I have try it its working perfectly with my li-ion housing thanks for you regard.
@dahosfpv99544 жыл бұрын
I have some of these laying around, EFEST IMR 18650 3500MAH 20A. Are they good for this use or is their chemical makeup not compatible?
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Not sure on them, I'd probably use them anyway! Matt
@vindulaherath64004 жыл бұрын
Can I use li-ion phone batteries for making 2S battery pack?
@Casperdroid53 жыл бұрын
you shouldn't
@alfredosilvacruz5783 жыл бұрын
Good morning when you should use the BMS protection board ?
@niceguy61823 жыл бұрын
No need for bms. Just a balance plug, a balancer- charger and a timer on the tx.
@craigbarnes65754 жыл бұрын
You say, “solder left side of balance wire to the positive” but how do I know which wire On the balance lead to use. Which way do you have the balance plug to associate the left side?
@alanreid2504 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt...so for Dart 250g which battery blue or green....not doing mega distance but park flying with longer endurance than lipo for the moment
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Howdy Alan, either would work great. Out of the two, the Panasonic green ones. I have used those for years now. They do perform well. Matt
@irwan_rc24164 жыл бұрын
Hi I have ncr18650be which have max discharge about 3.6A. is it safe for plane ESC? Thanks in advance
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Howdy, that's probably a bit too low. But really depends upon the model and it's current draw. You could double them up in parallel that would double the current capacity. Matt
@fuegofauto4 жыл бұрын
what AWG have you used??
@omarkhalaf70143 жыл бұрын
I have been struggling with making the solder stick to the battery cell. People keep saying that I need a high wattage solder (somewhere between 60 and 100 watts); however, my solder is 30 watts. May I know what is the wattage on this solder you were using?
@davidbarker3591 Жыл бұрын
I've soldered 18650 cells with a 25W Weller iron, but now use a 90W iron. Nobody ever mentions the solder and flux. Here you go...I use rosin flux paste and 63/37 leaded rosin core solder. It has a lower melting point than anything and is eurectic. Use leaded, no lead is junk. Never use an acid flux. I set my iron at 750* and using the above solder, never have had a problem.
@umontakahashi9528 Жыл бұрын
Good idea. But I was forwarding your video and I can resume it in just one minute jeje.
@TeamYankee24 жыл бұрын
Have you used the Samsung 18650 30Q type ? How low can you run them ?
@kevintorevell24063 жыл бұрын
Is 5amp ok for a zohd Nano talon?
@lorand_bb6 ай бұрын
What happened at 35:00? Your coffee kicked in :) This setup does not require BMS?
@onepunchndown4 жыл бұрын
Ive got some more balance leads showing up today so im going to make some Li-Ions with you
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
YAY. I hope they went well for you! Matt
@OZSCQUADS4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use the nickel plate? any reason you couldn`t just use some 14awg wire?
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Morning, none at all. I like the plate, but wire is exactly the same. Just use what you have got. Matt
@OZSCQUADS4 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff Thanks mate.
@allenfairley31394 жыл бұрын
Hello sir? You said in one of your replys that you charge these 18650 on lipo settings is this safe and why use this setting thank in advance
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Howdy, see the specifications for your batteries. They vary between cells. Matt
@allenfairley31394 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MrPixntex4 жыл бұрын
matt how do you charge these packs up and with what charger please can you help
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Howdy Nigel, see the video. It depends upon the cells you are using. These ones will charge as a normal lipo as they charge to 4.2V. Matt
@mrugrysek42014 жыл бұрын
/hi Matt. What is the soldering iron temperature?
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no idea. It's the cheap soldering iron from Screwfix! Matt
@SergyFPV4 жыл бұрын
I use 90 w soldering iron at 480 °c, just put 2 seconds the tip on cell with this température , interest is to warm strong and on a short periode the cell , I noticed the negative pole needs more temperature than the positive pole , I assembled Liitokala 21700 ( 3 s 4000mah ) on my old bixler , the pack works very well since + of 1 year, vive les batteries liions 😃
@davidbarker3591 Жыл бұрын
I use a 90W iron set 700*-750* F.
@friedrice52922 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank you for sharing this awesome video. I am new to RC. My RC car came with only one battery pack. After I came across your channel and I would like to make some extra batteries (2S) with 18650 batteries like yours. Question... can I or should I charge this battery packs with original charger that came with my RC (it's a usb to balance cable charger)? Or should I buy a better charger (smart rc charger) to charge them? Thank you much in advance. Cheer! :) Jack
@mattynov3 жыл бұрын
Great video. How much did the final battery packs weigh?
@miteshdhanani Жыл бұрын
Want to make a 6v battery to be used in a 8.97v 3A 3W solar panel
@JohnRoe3284 жыл бұрын
Great video really helpful
@matthieuvankints33433 жыл бұрын
maybe this was commented before put if you shorten the + and - so that you take off the length of one battery the total length will be ultimately the same but you save a little extra weight.
@johnnydepp41144 жыл бұрын
have you tried the 21700 ? they are slightly heavyer, but can store 5000 mah and is still lighter than 26650
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Hey Johnny, not yet! Maybe on the next buying session. Matt
@johnnydepp41144 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff Cool, i made some myself with Samsung INR21700-50E 5000mAh - 10A , the weight is 69 gram each, and do store 5000mah each cell... tested them on a quad and flew for a very looong time :)
@dj_dazzy4 жыл бұрын
It is cutting board carnage.... get yourself a silicone mat Matt ;)
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Hahahhaah yea, it's taken some abuse. Matt
@juliusopiana87022 жыл бұрын
What is the discharge rate of each battery sir?
@davidbarker3591 Жыл бұрын
The CDR was 5A
@maatiraouki91247 ай бұрын
C’est très gentil 👍
@ruinunes82514 жыл бұрын
What happened at 38:09?
@jimmynoname40894 жыл бұрын
Could have used this two months ago! I had to wing it and hope i didn’t blow myself up! Made 3 cell versions for my ranger.
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy, I take it the pack has done well for you? Matt
@jimmynoname40894 жыл бұрын
RagTheNutsOff amazingly well and cheaper!
@terrymurphy5624 жыл бұрын
Made my first pack for the drift 2 weeks ago. Brilliant pack, another excellent intuitive video matt. What’s the name of the tune at the end of your video please? 👍
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Howdy Terry, happy days! The track is called "Forever Yours" by "Wayne Jones", was in the YT library I believe. Matt
@terrymurphy5624 жыл бұрын
Cheers matt. 👍
@crank_FPV2 жыл бұрын
Good vid but tab welding is a better option if possible
@Bstallday892 жыл бұрын
Nice to know they don’t blow up under the torch lol
@michaelwheatland45654 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m really new to all of this but I fancy having a go at fabricating batteries for my Dart and drift. I followed your video and it seems to be pretty straightforward however my concern is how far to let the battery’s discharge without the rx and esp. shutting down would it be sensible to disharge them to say 5v and then change battery packs this would I am assuming still give me pretty long flight times compared to the li-po batteries. Is what I am saying making any sense. Cheers oldsurveyor1944
@zoeyboy12152 жыл бұрын
How about 3 batteries?
@geordieboy774 жыл бұрын
would love to see a field charge pack video build
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Hey Craig, look up my 26650 pack build 👍
@typxxilps4 жыл бұрын
it is always a bit of hazzle, work and adventure but with rewarding results to make these on your own. And to be honest: you do no longer rely on what chinese company put in their fancy name products from hobbyking and Banggood and make your own Zippi Happy bag or however you will call these and in a better quality cause you can make sure what quality cells you buy. I tend to go with the Samsung INR 3500 mAh cause they are good, cheap and for mulitple purposes usable like e bike battery refurbishing or tool refurbishing (Bosch 14 or 18 V Akkus for example). If you buy 10 of these cells you get them in Europe for cheap like 34,50€ inkl. free shipping in germany. And you can be sure: these samsung, sony, LG cells deliver the amount of mAh as is in the spec sheets mentioned. 2 put together for 7€ are unbeatable even though you have to pay a bit for the balance leads, nickel strips, that kapton tape and connectors ... but you always know: brand new Samsung cells capable of delivering 80% plus mAh after 500 charging cycles so you can count them down easily by writing down the amount of energy or mAh you had to recharge afterwards. 1 charging cycle in this case means 100% delivery / charging, so if you fly once down to SOC 30% and recharge it fully to fly it down to 10% then you had charged what ? 70% + 90% = 160% and this means 1,6 charging cycles - not 2. Short flights with low energy consumption will be counted in the charging life cycle by the amount of charged energy and not the count of charges. The Samsung cells do not dy suddenly if you are over 500 charging cycles they simply tend to charge less energy so flight time will be reduced and you can count on them for 1500 charges and still above 50% SOC capable cause our lawn mower battery pack made it over 2424 working hours in 3 years and these represent 1500 charging cycles cause we knew that each time the battery SOC was only used for 70% which we knew due to the running times between charging and full running time without recharging. To keep things safe I used them up to 500 charging cycles being aware of the capacity cause every 100th carge I measure them out. Afterwards they will be reused in powerwalls or other applications cause they can last much much longer in low Amp use cases. buy 100 and you get 3,7V x 3500 mAh = 12950 V x mAh = 12950 mWh = 12,95 Wh which equals 1,295 kWh that is roughly 10% of the energy a family needs each day. If you buy 200 then you will have the storage your family needs each night ... and that is where the Powerwall journey starts, so buy a fey and a first solar module to start you experiments. Best use case is a portable battery chargerbox that you can use at the club out in the field to recharge your lipos and carry back home to connect it with 1 or 2 solar panels which will charge your charger box. Start small from here and look what others did to understand the solar power for your RC chargerbox or motorhome or boat to gain experience cause this is the easiest way and cheapest cause the solar panels deliver DC and the battery need DC ... Here for german or european buyers the cheapest source for genuince Samsung cells www.ttt48.de/akku/lithium-ionen/18650/samsung-inr-18650-35e-36v-37v-3500mah-lithium-ionen-akku.html?sort=1
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, they're 3500 and 10A rated. Just like the LG MJ1's I've been suing for the past 2 years! Matt
@youzrnaim3 жыл бұрын
@4:32 "A sOlDeRiNg IrOn WoN't MaKe ThEsE hOt" @7:39 "look they didn't get hot at all" **touches nickel plate with iron for .5 seconds. @8:15 "OUCH that's really hot"
@mikegriffiths74874 жыл бұрын
Also, why don’t you use the battery protection boards that I see can be obtained very cheaply. Is it because they might be a possible failure point?
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Howdy Mike, yes that is a concern, also they are not normally needed. The max amp draw on the Dart & drift is 5A, except for a little bit over on launch. So combine that with the failure point and that I balance charge them, its just not needed. For a bigger pack, yea I can see the benefits. Matt
@WX4CB4 жыл бұрын
i just did a couple of 21700 4000mAh packs for the 250g
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
WOW! That'll fly forever now!
@WX4CB4 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff hahaha, yea but way nose heavy with just the 2 in there.... would have to add a bunch of lead to the back even though the vtx is back there That or a honking big motor
@ralphquetaya45473 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome! How many cells and what is the weight of that 21700 4000mAh pack by any chance ?
@kjensen62813 жыл бұрын
No BMS?
@RagTheNutsOff3 жыл бұрын
Nope. That's what a battery charger is for with the balance lead.
@kjensen62813 жыл бұрын
@@RagTheNutsOff Sure, but what about discharge protection?
@RagTheNutsOff3 жыл бұрын
@@kjensen6281 none at all if the battery does not have one fitted. Use with a current sensor an/or a flight controller
@mikegriffiths74874 жыл бұрын
Matt, could you just say something about charging these batteries: how does it differ from LiPos, can they be balance charged?
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, absolutely balance charge them and depending on the cells (check their specs), I charge them as LI-Po batteries on the charger. Matt
@rmooneyhan06244 жыл бұрын
Most chargers have a lI-ION battery setting. I charge them at 1C
@snowballfpv75834 жыл бұрын
I'm after some new batteries for my ZOHD DART 250G 🤔🤔
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
One distance. 47.92Km distance covered with juice spare with one of these packs.
@snowballfpv75834 жыл бұрын
Cool 😎, will need to get some stuff ordered then 😉
@mozes32809 ай бұрын
I don’t undersrand how these batteries are more expensive than LiPo. The price for 4 of these is around 20€ while the 6s 10k mah batt is around 200€ which weights 1 kilogram.
@Bstallday892 жыл бұрын
Samsung 25r best
@JONNIE8OY3 жыл бұрын
It's Negative not Ground.
@Polymerbob3 жыл бұрын
baa-trees?
@paulriggs424 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt.... your English is getting worse ! 😝
@RagTheNutsOff4 жыл бұрын
lol, so true!
@gasisthepastendoil5 ай бұрын
.... I tried it and it was a complete disaster no power at all maybe all my batteries were counterfeit..... Ugliest pk I've ever made and the wires break off
@ستارالجوراني-ح8ض3 жыл бұрын
نحتاج ترجمه عربي
@prakashsuryawanshi62113 жыл бұрын
Here's BMS not use
@game-f-un-limitedgamer89583 жыл бұрын
"some solder, a soldering iron and some common sense" .... nope
@shaikhamiruddin58482 жыл бұрын
👎too long video
@OlivierRefalo Жыл бұрын
why do you scream?
@RagTheNutsOff Жыл бұрын
No idea, this video is two years old...
@bruceclothier8238 Жыл бұрын
Duh! A very long video which only produces a couple of 189650s and plugs, but where is the electronic infrastructure to charge and discharge them?