Making a Cat C7 Crankshaft Rear Seal Installation Tool

[@750VFR]

Back in the seventies made a puller plate for a Mk1 mini using the 'burnt out hile' from a plate, subsequently drilled other holes for other uses. 40+ years later needed a flywheel for an engine. Used this plate by countersink ing all thro holes and riveting small bar lengths at each end. Dreadful interrupted cut to m/c outside. This job was so reminiscent. "Compromise" the word on every home machinists lips. Thanks for all your hard work but don't forget to hug your family every day.

[@750VFR]

hole not hile at start.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

We all just make do with what's available, for sure. And the interrupted cuts are the trickiest part as one tries not to crash the machine or break tools. And yes, my family means more to me than my hobby for sure, partly why it sometimes takes a while between videos.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

I worked for John Deere as a young man and they have they use same repair seal too I think it’s an after market part. We had an installation tool to put it on it had a line up disk what bolted to the crank and held the pusher pens. The pusher install disk was a tight fit to the line up disk. We loaned out the tools to the farmers, one day the $1000.00 dollar tool came back to the shop with hammer marks all over it. The farmer assembled the tool wrong and and tried to adjust it with a hammer. It didn’t move so he hit it harder. Thanks for sharing.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Oh man, there were hammer marks on the special tools at the Dodge dealer I was at for 10 years . . . Even licensed mechanics can be rough on stuff but it sucks when an expensive piece of gear gets damaged.

[@ChrisB257]

Useful chunk of plate! Long job cutting out the blank but needs must and you managed with hard work. Altogether, a brilliant result Everett - glad you caught the potential mistake, so easily done when tired too! You should be proud of that job.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Chris, yeah the plate took a while to get to the octagon stage. At some point a plasma cutter or oxy torch is on the wish list, but just not yet due to various factors. Otherwise, apart from the extra hole, pretty happy with this one as it does work and was much cheaper. Hope you're doing well.

[@Rustinox]

I think making tools yourself is very satisfying. Nice job Everett. I also think that mixing music in videos is a good thing. It lightens the video up. Makes it easier to digest.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks, I enjoy the challenge of making tools for certain situations. It can also be easier on the wallet, depending on the tool. And for the part where I forgot the microphone, well, it seemed apropos to put something on and elevator music probably would have earned me more dislikes, lol . . .

[@pauldevey8628]

Everett, I like this video because it is showing the versatility of machining in solving real life problems. You did a great job in working on a project that is close to the limits of your equipment.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Paul. We just use what we have at hand, for sure. It's cool to see how others solve their challenges using other tools and techniques too.

[@Just1GuyMetalworks]

What blemish? All I see is a saving of $1000! Nicely done 😁! Gotta love being that guy with the lathe right 👍😎👍. Thanks for the share!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, thanks Billy, was just glad to be able to help my buddy out. I actually need to use it either tomorrow or the next day as I'm in the midst of putting a used C7 in a Pete 335 right now and the rear main is starting to leak on the donor engine.

[@paulwomack5866]

I love watching you work round what you don't have - no DROs, small/light lathe, no plasma. Imagine the sheer lack of fun watching some dude with a CNC plasma cut out a blank-with-a-hole in 60 seconds. (quite a lot of the far eastern "back street" KZbinrs are MASTERS of cutting with angle grinders)

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Paul, I'm just a hobbyist, don't have all the toys. But I do have some toys that others don't, we all have different mixes of tools that we have been able to acquire over the years. And I totally agree with you in having a great respect for those in places like South Africa, Vietnam, and Eastern Europe as they make awesome stuff with basic equipment.

[@MrBuck295]

Grinder at the three min. mark is why I always wear my safety glasses when watching your videos ; ) still love hanging out in your shop

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, thanks. I won't put power to a machine without glasses on, it's not worth the risk. Whether you wear them during the video is part of your jobsite safety plan, lol.

[@MrBuck295]

@@EverettsWorkshop Well truthfully I always wear mine in the shop / garage never know when I might need them had my eyes for over 60 years now plan on keeping them for the duration ( kinda gotten used to seeing )

[@samrodian919]

Come on Everett, we want to see the seal being installed!!!! Nicely done bit of work! I sure hope your boss was impressed. Hope he' didn't just pay you weekend rates to get him out of the pooop! Greetings from over the Pond.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, thanks! For what it's worth, I may or may not have had to install one of these seals in an engine I have been working on . . . stay tuned :)

[@scania357]

May I suggest the extra hole was for balancing. 😋 Forget the music, chips raining down into the pan would be far better. Very nice job thanks for having me along.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Steve, I just felt silly with forgetting the mic for a good chunk of the turning so didn't want to bore people with dead air time.

[@paulwomack5866]

@@EverettsWorkshop A lot a 'tubers just voice over at edit time when that happens.

[@georgeswindolljr1980]

I can appreciate the fact that sometimes you have to “use what you have on hand” to get the job done!!!! Good thinking, love your videos, thanks for taking us along for the ride!!!!!!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks George, it was simply what I had to work with. Had a few extra steps in machining due to equipment restraints but it came out ok in the end.

[@georgeswindolljr1980]

Everett's Workshop I think you do an excellent job, I also enjoy your honesty, and your easy going personality!!!!

[@bcwrangler]

Quite the transition from raw stock to the finished piece..nice idea of reducing the weight by adding an extra hole!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks! And, um, yeah . . . weight reduction . . . yeah, let's go with that, lol! :)

[@eyuptony]

You've got yourself the makings of a nice small just in time one off business there. Never mind the extra hole when your in a corner who cares as long as the job gets done on time. Another method of rough cutting the plate is chain drill around the outside diameter of the tools diameter you marked on the plate, then increase the size of drill to join the holes up or cut the small sections left between the drill holes with the bandsaw. A lot quicker especially with a rotary table, done this many times in the past. Brilliant machining video. Tony

[@eyuptony]

It's me again Everett lol. Forgot he plate was too large to swing all the way round on your mill but you could drill it almost all the way round on the rotary table then do the wedged bit left free hand. I used to do this free hand before I had a milling machine.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Tony! Lol, between working full time, wife, and family, I don't have much time for a side business. The chain drilling idea probably would have been quicker overall, you have a good point. I just didn't think of it. If I had an Abom-size lathe would have just trepanned it out, lol! Hope you're doing well.

[@fredsmachinewerks4811]

Nice Job Everett. Some materials are like that , you get the long stringy wire when cutting. And darn stuff is so sharp when it comes off. it will take the skin off your fingers. cheers Fred

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Fred, yeah the stringy swarf is hazardous - I lost a video camera to stringers once but thankfully no injuries yet.

[@davescreations7793]

I worked for Peterbilt for 6 years before I got put in a wheelchair loved it

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Oh man, that's harsh! I'm originally an automotive tech but now apprenticing on heavy trucks. It's been a bit of a learning curve but lots of cool new stuff to work on as well.

[@jimdearborn2539]

I enjoy your videos. . . yes, there is a however. It would be nice to see KZbinrs show how the parts or gadgets they make are used. I would really like to have seen you use the tooling you made install the seal. It finishes the story. IMHO.😀 Nice work.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Jim, and I had thought of that but this last couple weeks at work have been insanely busy and it isn't fair of me to take my boss' paid-for time to do my own projects. At some point if I have a seal to do and get time that is not being paid for I can do a quickie video with it in use. You are right though and context of the final components in their intended uses helps it make more sense.

[@griplove]

Nicely done sir. Always a joy to hang out. -Joe

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Joe, glad it was interesting for you! It was a fun challenge, any ones done down the road will be easier, lol!

[@pierresgarage2687]

This was a hell of an week-end assignment.... !!! Hope your boss offered to take "Little man" along in order to give you some time to spend freely in the shop... 🍼🎠🧷😈😈😈 As for the type of steel the plate could be made from, there are a few possible answers, this could be some A36 like suggested in some of the comments, also in Canada there is lots of W series steels sold as plate. the most common are 44W, 50W, 50A, those alloys contain around 0.25% C, and between 0.5 - 1.5% Mn, as the 50A also add Cr, Ni and a little Cu, those alloys are great in corrosion resistance, mainly the 50A. Real difficult to tell an alloy by looks, though....... 🙂👍 If possible, there are the bigger players in metal recycling field that own some portable spectrum analyser, if you know one near you, they could tell you the exact composition of your sample. Wish I could find one close from here, those tools cost in excess of $15,000... Soooo, it's rare... The "Extra hole" it's a stress compensation operation that you really advanced design dept. could explain, extra complicated calculations involved... 😁🙂😎👍

[@EverettsWorkshop]

It was a fun challenge - and apart from the extra hole I was pretty happy with it. I was wondering where a person could get a hold of an X-ray fluorescence gun but hadn't thought of scrap yards having one. Might have to give one of the bigger yards here a call to see how much it would cost for them to take a scan of a few samples of the Mysterium and Unknowniun scraps laying on my shop floor. Hope you're doing ok and that you have been able to get a little shop time in there.

[@joecolanjr.8149]

3rd times a charm!! Thanks for the video...really enjoy hangin out in your shop!!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Joe, hopefully it wasn't too annoying to everyone with the multiple uploads. Compiled the video 4 times altogether . . .

[@chrisankers7868]

would be nice to see it in use nice job the mistakes are what makes your films good to watch thanks

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Chris, not trying to hide my mistakes all the time but sometimes the videos are just too long to add all the out takes. There will probably be another compilation at some point, lol. As for showing the tool in use I will try, it's just that I can't really use my boss' time at work to make my personal videos. We'll see what I can do though.

[@sharkrivermachine]

Nice job. I would have said that it was A36 steel, however the finish that you got was way to good for that.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Steve, I haven't tried a test with it yet to see if it has enough carbon to take a hardening but will at some point. If it is simple mild steel it's still ok by me as the price was right!

[@tced2858]

My thoughts are on the A36, I machined a lot of it, it's stringy and bird nest but I've got some decent finish's if you use carbide

[@ramsay19481]

Lots of times we had to make tools to work on something or other at work....Good to be able to do it.. Cheers; Mike in Louisiana

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Mike, I enjoy the challenge. There are some other cost-prohibitive tools I would like to have at the shop but will need to make them to be able to afford them!

[@ramsay19481]

@@EverettsWorkshop Such is often the case.. Expense and urgency to get the thing repaired. I worked on heavy machinery for many years and have made tools in many cases....I am retired now but still on occasion need to make something or other.. Cheers; Mike in Louisiana

[@RobotArms24]

Always feels good to make your own tools, nice job! I make flanges at my work, usually from rough forgings, never out of plate though. The steel is usually A105N or A350 LF2, both of which are pretty terrible. It is fairly soft(130-200 HBW) and prone to birds nesting. I think it's .3% carbon max. Could also just be A36 structural plate.

[@bhoiiii]

I would second the a36, just from the way it machined.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Kyle, I need to to some testing with heat to see if any of the pieces will take a hardening. If not it probably is A36. Certainly likes making birds' nests though, whatever it is.

[@RobotArms24]

@@EverettsWorkshop If it is any of the steels I mentioned, they will not harden, as they do not have enough carbon in them. You can carburize them and make a hard layer on the surface but they will not harden through quenching(unless they are carburized). You could try a spark test to see what kind of sparks it makes and may give you an idea of how much carbon is in it.

[@yvesdesrosiers2396]

Nice job Everett! I know to well the palm to the forehead moment. Thanks for sharing

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Yves, yeah, thankfully this mistake was not mission-critical, just annoying!

[@oleyeller]

The plate could be A516 which is common for pressure retaining applications. Nice video.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Gary! I also received an email from a retired metallurgist and he is highly suspecting that the plate is A516 as well, given the original purpose of the material and how common it is in pressure vessel applications. Sounds like nice stuff to work with, one way or the other. The tool works, that's what I needed!

[@rpederse]

Now I’m picturing a disco called “Live Center”. :)

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Well, is it a dance club for machinists? We'd all be checking level, square, and surface flatness before wanting to trust the dance floor . . . lol

[@BundyBearsShed]

Boy that seal looks like a John Deere one I use often, similar but different, lol. You cant fit them without a tool with a lot of success. I use the free music in the KZbin library with no problems so far.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Yeah, the seal/sleeve combos seem to be an idea most diesel engine makers use. I installed them at Dodge on Cummins 5.9's and 6.7's, and now working on heavy trucks it appears they use similar seals. As for the music, there's a bit of a story behind the change, don't really want to get into it too far but figured try something different for a "second series," so to speak.

[@garybecker2624]

Great video, nice finish on the seal pusher, the finish is what I struggle with and birds nests

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks, the birds' nests were a pain on this one too but thankfully no injuries. Just to my ego with the extra hole, lol

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Way to go Everett. You are doing the stuff I wish I could get to do. Keep on keeping on.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Harold, I could say the same for your projects as well. Hope you're doing well also!

[@jessjulian9458]

Great project my friend. Thanks for sharing. Don't be gone so long. Don't have to be a project, a chat will be fine. Just to know you are doing ok. Hope you have a great week.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Jess, I've just had a lot going on in life and it's liable to get busier in the coming month for sure! Hope to still have some small projects over the next while too, just need shop time.

[@JamesDedmon]

Looks like you watch some of my videos, because I am known for taking plate and making it round. Like Steve my guess is A36 because that is a common alloy for steel construction plate. However it does give good finishes when machined carefully like you did. Everett keep a look out on Ebay for some large boring bars that is used in larger machines, if you dovetail them they come in handy for these kind of jobs to keep chatter down. I have several that I use just for that purpose.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I want to do some testing to see if a sample of this stuff will take a hardening - if it doesn't then it is most likely A36. As for eBay I've had to stay off it for a while as trying to save money for some big new developments in our family here.

[@number40Fan]

It might be a case of the sillies since it has been a long day, but I got a good laugh from your new intro song. First thought, I had clicked on the wrong video. I was expecting a deep voice saying "Oh, yeah" when your shaper was cutting the slot. Watching the chips come of that material I am confused what type it might be. Installer turned out great!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, thanks! Yeah, the new intro is a long story, had to re-compile the video 3 times today, and change the music as now I'm having copyright claim issues on music I have purchased licenses for. As for the steel plate, a number of us are leaning toward A36, will need to do a test by trying to harden it, if it won't harden then A36 is the likely suspect. That's a project for another day though . . .

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Great job . I have fitted hundreds of those seals over the years , good to see you did not seperate the inner wear ring from the seal . If that happens Cat say to throw it away ! Cheers .

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Max, Cummins crank seals with the inner rings are the same way, not to be separated either. Saw a number of those while working at a Dodge dealer for 10 years and they have a similar special tool. You've done more than I have though, I'll bet, lol!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

@@EverettsWorkshop I have been lucky & had the Cat installer at places where i worked .

[@TedRoza]

Great work .. Good machining, and it works .. LOL You did the Rear Main, Will send you a few pics of the Front Timing Cover Seal Tool

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Ted, got your email, your Cummins tool looks good too!

[@6-4fab53]

I would also guess the material is A36 steel. As an ex-pipefitter I can say that A36 is the most commonly used steel plate in the industry.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

The two likely suspects I have heard are A35 and A516, from a number of people. Need to do more testing on it to see which it is more likely to be. For the price I got it for though it was still sufficient whichever it is!

[@kittensausage5901]

Mistakes are what makes us better at what we do😁

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I agree, as long as we learn from them . . . Sadly sometimes I can be a slow learner . . . Lol

[@craigtate5930]

I built a pulley some time back cutting the parts out with a plasma cutter. And boy did it heat treat some areas, in all fairness it was malfunctioning badly so it probably put a lot more heat into the parts then I would imagine it would have it it was working correctly. Turning the part was a pain, I should have tried to anneal before turning

[@EverettsWorkshop]

That's exactly what I was trying to avoid - got a torch at work but wanted to still be able to machine the material. At some point a heat treat test will be in order to check for carbon content.

[@bostedtap8399]

Smooth intro (saw your description). More mysterious metal 🤔🤔; Quick method to check if it has a moderate amount of carbon, or other alloys that contribute to hardenibilty, is to run a tack weld on a suitable spot, then test with a file etc. Great vlog. Thanks for sharing.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks, new intro for various reasons . . . And yes, it's another mystery metal but the price was right. I was hoping to take a chunk of it and do a hardness test by heating with the torch at work and quenching it, seeing if it will indeed harden.

[@paulwomack5866]

@@EverettsWorkshop Those 4 corners you took off will be excellent sample pieces for that...

[@DangerousSportsForSeniors]

Very nice installation tool . I’ll bet that’s an expensive seal, and the kind of repair you don’t want to do over.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks John, not sure what those seals cost but anything in a yellow box is spendy . . . And no, for what it takes to pull an engine I don't want to have comebacks either, lol

[@DK-vx1zc]

Great job Everett! Would be cool to see it in action.. How its used to install the seal.. Thanks for sharing. You do great work!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks, I had thought it would be cool to get video as well but it's nuts busy at work lately and as it is it was tricky to get pictures. Maybe as time goes on might be able to get more videos at the shop but also don't want to take time my boss is paying for to do my personal stuff.

[@DK-vx1zc]

@@EverettsWorkshop Yes, your boss pays you to do work for him.Totally understand. Not good to jeopardize job.

[@paulwomack5866]

@@DK-vx1zc Oughta' cut both ways - his boss wanted Everett's weekend time...

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Everrett, I like the new start of the videos, bit of shaper action in there too, the seal tool turned out very nice, I like the finish you got, i think you maybe making a few tools like this over time, if you have the gear to make why not, it helps the boss/mate out and you get enjoyment out of making it, thanks for another awesome video, Matty

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Matty, apart from the extra hole I'm content with it as it works. Actually will need to use it this coming week at work as I have a used C7 on the floor to replace one in a Pete with a cracked block. We may make more for other engines as time goes on.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Nice recovery!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks! At least it was only a cosmetic screw-up, not a functional one.

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Great job Everett, We all make mistakes , But you caught it ! I wonder if that is A36 plate steel ?? ENJOYED

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Shawn, I haven't done any hardness testing after heat treating with the stuff but there are a number of us who are suspecting A36 too. One I give it a test will let everyone know.

[@erniehenshaw4065]

Nice work Everett!!!!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks, apart from the extra hole I'm happy with how it works. Actually had to use it yesterday on an engine I've got on the floor.

[@mikeduhm5325]

Probably A-36. You need to get yourself some screw machine length drills. They work nice on the mill- drill where raising the head is a pain. Insane that the install tool was that expensive

[@EverettsWorkshop]

After hearing thoughts from others my suspicion is A36 as well, will need to do some testing on it to see if it will take a hardening. I'm always on the lookout for tooling, a set of stubby drills is on the list but sadly there are other things higher on the list . . . and yes, that tool is that expensive. Seems crazy to me too, and to my buddy, so we may be making more for other engines too.

[@tectalabyss]

Just call the Boo boo a " Makers Mark " : ) Great job ! Has always I liked,Shared. All my best.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, thanks Bobby, I actually want to look into a maker's mark stamp, just haven't done it yet. Chances are it would take a few months of hobby budget to do so, thus haven't pursued it very hard at this point.

[@howder1951]

Nice work Everett, too bad about the music thing, it is finally getting nice enough here so i'm not freezing my butt in the shop, so i finally am getting out. cheers buddy!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Howie, it was annoying with the music stuff but I guess that's life. I'm kind of hosed with how the server system works on this system, not a lot of recourse on my end even with receipts, so just hoping I don't have to do anything drastic with the channel as time goes on. Glad to hear you're getting some shop time in, will be cool to hear what you build first this season!

[@RockingJOffroad]

I would guess either 1018 or A36 steel but you are getting too nice of a surface for either of them. It could possible be 4140 annealed for high pressure applications. The seal installer came out really well!

[@williamthrasher8540]

That is what I was thinking

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I had suspected A36 like a lot of the suggestions so far but haven't tried hardening the scraps yet. Only that will tell me what sort of carbon content would be in it. Short of an XRF gun, which I haven't found cheaply on Ebay yet, lol

[@RockingJOffroad]

Everett's Workshop you could try a grinding spark test.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

New music! No idea on the material - but it was cutting a bit like chromoly. I know that around here you can get 4130 in plate. If so - that's a pretty cool material to have in that quantity. Cheers, Craig PS: Just tell your boss that the small hole is why you're only charging $950 instead of $1000

[@EverettsWorkshop]

It was cutting with strings, for sure - makes me wonder how much chromium is in it as well. At some point a spark test and hardening test will be in order for some samples of the pieces of plate I got at that auction. One way or another, it was cheap even at mild steel rates!

[@CraigsWorkshop]

@@EverettsWorkshop I have the same problem. I acquired (bought from a friend) a bunch of steel round bar for much less than new cost, but not as cheap as scrap cost. Not sure what each one is though - so I need to do the file/spark/hardening test before I ruin a bandsaw blade or similar :) I'll have to come up with a labelling system too so I know what's what. In fact - I need to overhaul my steel storage system. The list grows! Cheers, Craig

[@rentawash1]

I think the steel may be SA-675-70 used in pressure vessels and such.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Interesting, I have never heard of that stuff, will look into the data sheets for it. Without an XRF gun, the best I can do is check for carbon content by doing a heat treat test on the scraps. May have to do that in the future so it can be determined if plasma cutting will make the edges brutal to machine!

[@davescreations7793]

Great job making that tool hope it works out

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks David, it works well! I actually need to use it this week on an engine I've got to change out in a Peterbilt

[@philbressi7223]

Great video on the handle you have on your quick change tool holder for your lath is that shop made, hope it did a good job for you.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Phil! Yes, the QCTP handle nut is homemade, was one of the first projects I made on the lathe after I got it. Got the idea from John Mills (doubleboost).

[@AlmostMachining]

What a great video. Way to step up and hack through the work!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks, was glad to help my buddy out, and as a bonus I get to use it this coming week as I have a C7 swap to do and the used engine going in the truck needs a rear main too! Btw, popped over and saw your channel, it looks interesting! Sub #27!

[@AlmostMachining]

@@EverettsWorkshop Thank you !

[@BenButler1]

That opening music!! Great techniques there.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Yeah, bit of a story on the music change with the new intro, but it's what I have to work with. Thanks, glad you found the project interesting!

[@OldtimeIronman]

Very likely that plate was generic A36 structural (or maybe A517 hi-tensile) often used for pipe fabrication, I've welded tons of that stuff.... thats why its so gummy and stringy

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I've heard primarily A36 and A516 as the likely culprits of what this plate is. I might just need to find someone in the Edmonton area with an XRF gun to find out how much it is for a scan of metals because having an idea of an alloy's consistency makes it more useful. Depends on how much it would cost though . . . and how long before all this virus fiasco will go . . .

[@imnotahealthandsafetyperso4889]

That’s a balance hole if anyone asked it works for me at times lol great video

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, thanks, um, yeah . . . balance for high speed operation . . . :P We'll run with that :)

[@rprichard8452]

Yeah, that’s one of the boilerplate metals astm asme, A 285M, A 516M. There are a few others too. The government standards are sorta tight when it comes to watching steel, arms, legs, concrete.... fly.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I have heard the A516 suggestion from a few people, will need to do a few tests on it to see if it can be narrowed down. I would lean toward the A516 as I also heard from a metallurgist in Ontario who said that his company shipped lots of this stuff west for oilfield/boiler/pipeline applications. All I know is it's nice stuff and I got a sweet deal from the auction!

[@RagsdaleCreek]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing Everett

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Anthony, glad you liked it!

[@robertharper8776]

Great video and job its funny I have a similar job on a Cummins 220 I only have a south bend 9 with a 5 inch chuck thanks again

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Robert, I looked up the Cummins 220 and given the age of those engines it sounds like a cool piece of equipment it must be in!

[@donmittlestaedt1117]

Thanks Everett.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks for wanting to come by!

[@donaldnaymon3270]

Great work. Looks like it will work well. Thank you for sharing.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Donald, it does work. I need to use it on Monday as well, I have a C7 being changed over right now on one of my work orders.

[@tectalabyss]

You could hint to your Boss, You could really use a plasma Torch. The way they cool the work it may not harden the work piece to much.?.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

The thing about plasma cutting is that it does put heat into edges, and this material is still unknown. Still needing to do some experimenting on the scraps to see if they will harden at all with heat treatment.

[@jordan4777]

Just curious why you didn’t put the square part on the rotary table to make it round? That seems like it would have been easier than sacking the corners off and doing intermittent cuts.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Honestly I didn't think of the rotary table. The thing is that with the equipment that I have available knocking the corners off was still the easiest way for me given the need for work holding. As well, after burning up end mills on plate with hard scale on it while doing other projects I didn't want to wreck some of the decent end mills I still have. When I make more I can also see how I can streamline the process a bit more and I can also use the torch at work for those :)

[@pearcemachineshop5200]

Nice job mate, tidy Al.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Al, just glad it did work after all, but that style tool is used by all the major diesel engine makers so it was a pretty good bet!

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Oh man. How many cut off wheels did you go through cutting that 3/4 plate? I guess we will see some of this footage in your next bloopers video. :) I started saving my blooper footage now so I can put out one of those videos once I get enough oops!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I didn't take much more grinding footage than what was included, as I knew it would be a while. Used 5 zip discs to get the rough square cut out. The thing is that it would take a nasty plasma cutter to do 3/4 to 1 inch thick material, and cost more than I have in the hobby budget for sure.

[@chrisstephens6673]

You could have hidden the oops by drilling the full 8 holes, well I might have been tempted to if I had oopsed, not that I ever do of course.😗

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, I was tempted to fill weld it and machine it off, but it wasn't worth it. If another copy is made of this tool I'll remember to drill it right :)

[@markmuranyi9289]

Everett. Please try to obtain at least a cheap cutting torch to save yourself the agony of a cutting wheel. I do follow you by the way. Just trying to look after you. GG's. As far as your mistake don't feel bad it happens. It occurs less as you have many mistakes:)

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Mark, a torch is on the wants list, for sure, just can't justify the expense right now in life unless a super deal came along - to buy a basic set and lifetime lease on tanks at the local shop will set me back almost $1k, tanks & gas are $700 alone. I hope to get one at some point though, just making do with what I've got right now.

[@josephculbertson9645]

Do you still have the tool? Or want to make another? I need one in a couple weeks.

[@mikenixon9164]

Tell everyone that's a special hole to hang it up by.LOL

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, yeah, I can't really hide that mistake, just gotta own it. In my defence it was late but it's still not a total excuse.

[@davescreations7793]

I was in automotive for 30 years before I got started in big rigs at Cummins USA I worked there for 8 years and peterbilt for 5 years so I am shell rounded fo anything if you have. Questions just ask I will try to help ok thanks

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Very cool, I was in the auto industry in one way or another for about 25 years, now doing heavy truck work. Been an interesting learning curve, lots of differences!

[@masterglaizer5918]

So how did you get the old wear ring off.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

He had the whole rear structure (flywheel housing, etc.) off, but I also don't remember seeing the old seal, it may have been the OEM 1-piece seal. To get the wear rings off one normally uses a flat chisel and hits it in a number of spots on the circumference. This "stretches" it and it would slide off. Done it numerous times on Cummins engines myself.

[@Peter-V_00]

Holes saws and back gear on your mill are your friends.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I had never thought of using a hole saw for 3/4" to 1" plate but might need to try it. An annular cutter would be great but they are very expensive.

[@Peter-V_00]

@@EverettsWorkshop In days gone by I cut some 1-1/2 308 SS using hole saws to put sight ports on industrial mixer vacuum covers, slow speed and Kool mist help immensely and it actually goes pretty quick.

[@IBWatchinUrVids]

What, you didn't try trepanning that steel blank? Chicken. :)

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Lol, nope! Bock, bock, bock! :) Not with this lathe anyway . . .

[@akfarmboy49]

is there dimensions in cat service book? or you made your own design? I can see myself needing one.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I have not seen the C7 service manual regarding the actual CAT tool, but took the basic idea from the Cummins 5.9/6.7 rear main seal install tool and took measurements of the new seal and rear of the crankshaft to sketch one up in CAD.

[@akfarmboy49]

I made them for mack truck engines with separate wear band installer, and for car engine

[@tsirron]

Looks good! About the musical interlude, let's not next time. Maybe just put in cutting drilling sounds from another video

[@spehropefhany]

Maybe do a ToT and put in completely different sounds like a chainsaw or a blender.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Thanks Norris, that's fair enough - I just didn't want people getting bored with a lot of dead air time on the sound.

[@TheTacktishion]

Oh no....! new music...

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Bit of a story behind that one, not really wanting to get too deep into why I had to change songs, but figured for the second series would try something different.

[@raysorensen8868]

push the seal in with fly wheel start it square

[@EverettsWorkshop]

You know Ray, I had never thought of installing seals with the flywheel - if you could find a ring the right size to press on the seal portion as the wear sleeve went on it might actually work . . .

[@davesalzer3220]

Cheap dro is better than no dro. 😁

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Agreed, I would like to get a DRO at some point but just can't justify the cost at this point. As time goes on maybe the time/finances will be good for one but for now I have to use what I've got.

[@sherylbeasley4938]

You don't have a torch or a plasma cutter ???? But you have a lathe??? Kind of like were i work, but i have a cutting torch and a plasma cutter but no lathe 😎

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Honestly, no, I do not have a torch nor plasma cutter at home yet. I can use the ones at work whenever I need them so it has been bumped down a few notches on the wants list. At some point hopefully but not at this point.

[@sherylbeasley4938]

@@EverettsWorkshop I completely understand.

[@neiljensen9585]

dont need the music!!

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I know, it's not a total necessity, but I like having something at the beginning and end of my videos. Just annoying that the licensing company caused issues when there shouldn't be any, but I'm just a "little guy" who has no pull so have to take alternate measures.

[@Rustinox]

@@EverettsWorkshop I like the music.

[@richardbradley961]

READ MOST OF THE COMENTS' I THINK THE BEST WAY OF HIDING ,,,, WOLD BE TO FINISH OF AND PUT 3 MORE MARKS TO MATCH... THEN NO ONE WILL KNOW...REGARDS... ...---...

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Yeah, that would be a thought - actually in total honesty and more thought, having a series of smaller holes would have allowed depth mic measurements to ensure it's being drawn in squarely.

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya

[@carlhalvorson]

No way I would ever subscribe to a channel that plays that crappy music. I would rather listen to machine noise than that stuff when you don't have anything to say.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Hi Carl, I had lost the audio when taking the footage so figured at the time that it would be better to put a bit of a musical interlude in. The thing is that I hear from some that they like the music and also from others who aren't a fan. Only a few of my videos have had music put in for the background, and if you would rather not subscribe because of a few with music that is totally fine as I respect your opinion. Hopefully some of the rest of the content can be interesting to you though. Thank you for coming by and sharing, without hearing from others it's harder to know what aspects of the videos are putting people off and what people enjoy more than other parts.

[@eliseodiaz7806]

Video quality sucks Dude

[@J8MORS]

Eliseo Diaz think it’s your internet connection, it’s great quality here.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Sorry to hear you didn't like it, as for the video quality I do admit that the second camera was sometimes fuzzy and I missed some sound as being 4 in the morning I had forgotten to turn the mic on a couple times. Fair enough.

[@paulwomack5866]

@@EverettsWorkshop Was that a "bad camera" issue or a "not focused" issue? You sure looked a little soft round the edges in the long shots at the mill :-)

[@donmittlestaedt1117]

Thanks Everett.