Making A Hand Built Steel Bike | Toyo Frame Factory Tour

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While out in Japan, Jon was lucky enough to get to look around the Toyo Frames factory. Jon got to learn about the history of the brand, including that they've made frames for MTB and cyclocross legend Thomas Frischknet!
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Founded in 1974, Toyo Frame is based in an old bearing factory. This is a company absolutely steeped in history, with the founder originally working for the iconic Panasonic frame company before starting Toyo Frame.
Jon was lucky enough to get a tour of the factory and even see their processes of making a frame. From bending and mitring tubes, to welding, and even how they get their incredible polished mirror finishes.
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@andycorso8498
@andycorso8498 5 жыл бұрын
Real craftsmanship........more vids like these please
@captainjakesparrow85
@captainjakesparrow85 5 жыл бұрын
Okay... Jon... That is a SUPER NICE!! RIIIING THE BELL!!!!
@lotusdk10
@lotusdk10 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a beautiful steel frame!
@daltonbedore8396
@daltonbedore8396 5 жыл бұрын
love mine, won't ever get anything that isn't two triangles
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
What a journey I had! This video brought an end to my Japanese adventure.
@mosca3289
@mosca3289 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Cannings great series. Quite a few others have made this point but your enthusiasm is infectious and allowed us to really share your wonderful experiences in Japan. Thanks Jon.
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
@@mosca3289 thanks. I love seeing comments like this
@xGshikamaru
@xGshikamaru 5 жыл бұрын
These videos were some of the best I've ever seen on GCN, thanks man!
@walkergv
@walkergv 5 жыл бұрын
Go back to Japan and find more gems. These videos are so good.
@richardharker2775
@richardharker2775 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation Jon. Looks like they haven't changed as time marches on but oh! my, that frame you had in your hand made me drool. I can see also they were not happy with "good enough".
@fr3heart
@fr3heart 5 жыл бұрын
When Jon showed that finished frame at the end, I might have had a little moment...How beautiful is that?!
@rubo1964
@rubo1964 4 жыл бұрын
That frame you were holding in the end is work of ART! Just stunning
@troxeh.
@troxeh. 5 жыл бұрын
That end result 😮
@gordonjoyce2157
@gordonjoyce2157 5 жыл бұрын
THE best of GCN, more of this please...
@JosephDiaz
@JosephDiaz 5 жыл бұрын
That polished frameset though. Talk about bike lust. I'd have one hell of an internal struggle with a frame like that. Put it on the wall as the piece of art that it is or ride it and actually experience the function of such a masterpiece.
@Outsideville
@Outsideville 5 жыл бұрын
If you like shop tours, get a job for a software company selling CAD/CAM. I worked for a SolidWorks reseller for 15 years and went in hundreds of shops. Some high-tech, some literally a dude's garage. You learn a ton and mainly learn that folks are generally quite proud of how they make stuff, regardless if it's all robotic or completely by hand. Great video.
@Jorge_Rodriguez83
@Jorge_Rodriguez83 5 жыл бұрын
That frame at the end makes me think about the old N+1 formula.
@FutoiBakaKun
@FutoiBakaKun Жыл бұрын
Almost cried to see how dedicated these people are! How amazing there work is. It reminds me of the Katana maker in kill bill, seems the Japanese really are the most dedicated forge masters!
@cliffordromina3527
@cliffordromina3527 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to go inside those factories, and i know I'm not the only one. Thank you for being there in our place and showing it to us..
@alexk3806
@alexk3806 5 жыл бұрын
Properly geeked out to this. Dark and mysterious workshop producing beautiful things. Craftsmanship for its own sake but with an ultimate purpose. Wonderful stuff.
@adamstanwick1487
@adamstanwick1487 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing...I could just hang that frame in my living room and be content 🙂
@jorgepinto383
@jorgepinto383 5 жыл бұрын
It's nic to know that there still someone out there doing this work of old 👍👍👍
@ashoutinfront
@ashoutinfront 5 жыл бұрын
While I think this is really cool, it surprises me they are running about 20-30 years behind in some manufacturing techniques. A 3D cad program that is well set up and a A1 or A0 plotter could churn out a complete new design in a couple of days, maybe less, or a tweaked design in minutes. Also Cnc machining is going to be even more accurate, quicker and repeatable compared to some of those old machines. I am not talking about taking the soul away from bike building, just improving the tasks that are supportive to the building process.
@jeffbrunton3291
@jeffbrunton3291 5 жыл бұрын
In Switzerland I wandered into a random bike shop and thought, dear god the owner has a lot of 1st places, rainbow jerseys and old Ritchey bikes hanging up. Cue Frishi who came over and started chatting, great guy
@zrsgamboa
@zrsgamboa 5 жыл бұрын
Forget titanium frames... This is where it's at! Steel frame with integrated carbon tubing. What a thing of beauty that end result!!! (I'd hate to venture as to how much it would cost though.)
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 5 жыл бұрын
Absolute perfection! Pure bike porn. Your a very lucky man. It just goes to show you don't have to go to Italy to get a beautiful hand crafted bike. Thank you.
@RavyDavy
@RavyDavy 5 жыл бұрын
with that much attention over each step of the frame making - I'm surprised they can even make the 350-380 frames per year - thats like 1 frame per day.
@Justmyopinionlol
@Justmyopinionlol 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese even when they were at the peak of mass production left behind very high quality machines we can still use decades later. The Chinese with the aid of all type of modern machinery still churn out craps. Even my decades old Casio calculators still work. Excellence pervades all aspects of Japanese manufacturing.
@robertwood1824
@robertwood1824 5 жыл бұрын
Jon on a deserved dream work-vacation!
@guyd4067
@guyd4067 5 жыл бұрын
John excels at this type of presentation, fantastic. Obviously, I need one of those frames, right now!
@ianiscaratti4924
@ianiscaratti4924 3 жыл бұрын
guyd4067 you don't need one but you can want one. if you want it strong enough you'll finde the money and patience
@johnnydoe66
@johnnydoe66 5 жыл бұрын
I would love a carbon/steel frame myself. Maybe leave the steel raw with just a clear coat to show the steel and welds in all their glory. Also leave the carbon natural with a clear coat. No sense in covering up the natural beauty of the frame materials with paint.
@dumacc7880
@dumacc7880 5 жыл бұрын
Go to Ave maldea Frame builder from philippines
@matthewlewis2072
@matthewlewis2072 5 жыл бұрын
13:00 LOL I thought you meant "Hybrid"!! Odd that they use carbon for the down and top tubes, you'd have thought that the stays were the obvious place for carbon (compliance, weight) ...Alan cycle cross frames...memories...
@louismorel2001
@louismorel2001 5 жыл бұрын
Jon, the gentleman of authentic cycling. Love all that steel!
@Pratalax
@Pratalax 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my word, that polish is utterly fucking magnificent. Phwoar!
@上村勝利-p5t
@上村勝利-p5t 5 жыл бұрын
You should go to Araya factory in Osaka. Which made OEM of first Specialized Stamp Jumper. And go to Amanda which made the first carbon bike in the world!!!
@Hardi26
@Hardi26 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It was good show. I would not mind to have a bike like that. Although, I probably would not ride it, because I hate cleaning bike.. It's such a nice shiny bike.. it would be really shame if I didn't clean it after each ride.
@hmudesign
@hmudesign 5 жыл бұрын
@gcntech This was thew show where GCN learned the hard way about "frame(rate)" standards. Good show and great presentation as always John, apart from the NTSC / PAL blunder :) I believe my 90's Muddy Fox Limited Edition was built there by the man himself :)
@jeffjensen4532
@jeffjensen4532 5 жыл бұрын
You have the coolest job on planet! Jealousy overwhelms me! First Corsa Corsa now this place?!!!!! Love Love Love these video and for you taking me there!
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@コウスケ-n4i
@コウスケ-n4i 5 жыл бұрын
日本へようこそ! 東洋のバイクは一度乗ってみたいバイクですね! Welcome to Japan! Toyo bike is a bike you want to ride once!
@Colinke
@Colinke 5 жыл бұрын
A sophisticatedly-built steel frame is the manifestation of the highest level of craftsmanship and where the anesthetics of bike frames lies among among other materials. Which will be rarer to be seen in the future bicycle industry in which people are looking for light weight, low-cost and easy way to make bikes...
@berndbrckr
@berndbrckr 5 жыл бұрын
The prettiest cyclocross frames I have seen. Just amazing!
@ryu2241
@ryu2241 5 жыл бұрын
Whilst I'm a sucker for aero frames, but that Toyoframe is a thing of beauty. Yes -indeed- ring the bell!!!
@danh8539
@danh8539 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing says Toyo frames like some good baby making music in the background! Lol great video GCN I really appreciate all bikes!
@gpurkeljc
@gpurkeljc 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing beautiful frames. They are like a piece of jewellery.
@chiefrocker12
@chiefrocker12 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this....I concur with comments below.... More like this, especially from you Jon.
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ravin.
@chaim0001
@chaim0001 5 жыл бұрын
What a welding! Very nice video!
@stephencowman3142
@stephencowman3142 5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful frame, real craftsmanship. I really want one now, great work again Jon.
@vladthebikeguy4763
@vladthebikeguy4763 5 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up if you wanna build a frame by yourself now !
@davidbotterill5001
@davidbotterill5001 5 жыл бұрын
Would love a bespoke toyo frame road bike now !
@JamesLeow
@JamesLeow 5 жыл бұрын
BEautiful! loving this video by bits!! :)
@okantichrist
@okantichrist 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the reverse of an old Alan cyclocross frame?Why it’s an old Raleigh dyna tech frame 😂
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Classic bikes
@THEoldgreydude
@THEoldgreydude 5 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting video Love your passion of anything bike Jon
@countspokeula539
@countspokeula539 5 жыл бұрын
"I love swarf" Jon Cannings, 2018 😂
@geraldrossouw4425
@geraldrossouw4425 5 жыл бұрын
Swarf, also known as man glitter.
@scottishjohn
@scottishjohn 5 жыл бұрын
Got to say a big well done to you guys. What a brilliant video there. Will happily watch Jon go and do more factory tours anywhere in the world but do love the tours of more artisan builders where old techniques are kept alive and melded with cutting edge tech. Please send Jon to more factories as I just love seeing the way products are made! Shimano HQ next time your in Japan ? 😉
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. I can't wait for my next visit
@djpalmer31
@djpalmer31 5 жыл бұрын
That is a proper workshop. Swarf and the smell of old grease. Much better than the modern sterile ones!
@MilesCobbett
@MilesCobbett 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Hey is Ferdi Kessels still alive? He used to build the Main D'or Road bikes that Eddy Merckx raced on. I used to own frame #32... When I trained on the hills in Santa Cruz Ca. Miles Cobbett, Author of the book Champion
@PithyBikes
@PithyBikes 5 жыл бұрын
No pulse, no purge, no heat sink. Makes me wonder when ever did steel become so sensitive that we needed all this stuff.
@sureshchinnappa2290
@sureshchinnappa2290 5 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of stuff John. Just amazing. Going to check their website now. Thanks again John.
@markjones4866
@markjones4866 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe an idea for a film is to visit the 'Bespoke' exhibition when it's on next and show the frames still being made by independent frame builder.
@Timbucktoothed
@Timbucktoothed 5 жыл бұрын
Jon and GCN....thank U so much for this clip. I like to build things myself. Just watching it....gave me goosebumps.
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@leqin
@leqin 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet cause I paused it right as it loaded - but I'm going to take a guess that Jon will be like a little boy with a thousand and one Christmas presents to open and absolutely beside himself with the joy and thrill and wonder of being in a workshop full of history. And I was right - wonderful video Jon.
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nigel.
@flpirate45
@flpirate45 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this wonderful video Jon. I love the last frame that you held towards the end of the video,it reminded me of a Trek aluminum and carbon bike I had in 1995. I wish that the industry would start building bikes like the frame you had in your hands. Thanks ,Paul Florida
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love
@someinconsequentialusernam7799
@someinconsequentialusernam7799 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny you mention this: I *have* one of those bikes. It’s a Trek Composite 2300. Mine’s a ‘92, I think. I was out on a run and the purple color in a yard sale caught my eye and stopped me in my tracks. I bought it from the guy as soon as I could get back and shower. I’ve been using it ever since: it’s my winter riding in the basement bike, though I rotate it in with the other bikes during the warmer months, too. I touched up the paint job, but it’s otherwise been a solid performer.
@MrMeta410
@MrMeta410 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vidéo as always.its vert interresting.please continue your travels around the World T o show us aller chose artits !thanks jour for jour passion and enthousiasm
@arunkumarshanmugam9346
@arunkumarshanmugam9346 5 жыл бұрын
what are you doing at 11:23 Jon? :P
@FredrikNylundsthlm
@FredrikNylundsthlm 5 жыл бұрын
So on "Cycling trends 2019" you guys said that N+1 was out. And I said that it will never die, but now I can agree. It's no longer N+1 for me, it's N+Toyoframe
@shapeshifterboogie9853
@shapeshifterboogie9853 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I thought that porn wasn’t allowed on KZbin. Guess hardcore bike porn doesn’t count. Those Toyo bikes look amazing, I think I spotted the last frame on his website it looks amazing.
@takuan650
@takuan650 5 жыл бұрын
Breathtaking skills and results. Thanks for bringing this up.
@taufikabidin412
@taufikabidin412 5 жыл бұрын
why not have a frame building challenge?
@bhumiriady
@bhumiriady 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always! This is a work of art! I love it!
@mohomoho1
@mohomoho1 Жыл бұрын
I had a custom 54cm Koichi Yamaguchi team USA track frameset made in early 90's. Another master frame builder from Japan who set up shop in the USA. He made frames for 3Rensho. Amazing workmanship. I could walk it down the street in a straight line with one finger behind saddle. It was the bike I was riding down 5th ave 42nd st. NYC when I saw the WTC on fire 2001.
@TriRussell1
@TriRussell1 5 жыл бұрын
I really need to visit Japan!
@SKBKER
@SKBKER 5 жыл бұрын
Engineers rarely get credit considering they are the ones who allow us to have what we use . It's all about Rapha, Strava, Instagram poses and other rubbish !!!
@justinslarks1456
@justinslarks1456 5 жыл бұрын
Adding to the Thomas Frischknecht story... The day after he won silver in the MTB race he raced the men's olympic road race on his CROSS BIKE with slicks!!!
@SKBKER
@SKBKER 5 жыл бұрын
Those holes are to allow the gases to escape .
@thexardas8395
@thexardas8395 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get later obsession with "custom" and "hand build". Even less I understand how anyone can look at a steel bike today with an awe. If you like something heavy and indestructible get Ti frame. At list it doesn't rust. That BLABLABLA craftsmanship BLABLABLA made by hand is nothing more then a trick to charge more money then it actually worth.
@okantichrist
@okantichrist 5 жыл бұрын
Jon is like the David Attenborough of swarf 👍
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@MarianChicu
@MarianChicu 5 жыл бұрын
You’re like a kid in a toy shop 😀 Really loved the video, John.
@genegroover3721
@genegroover3721 10 ай бұрын
The video quality is so very poor. It's worth is so inferior to most every video I have ever watched except for some really old B&W movies from the 30s and early 40s. Seeing how a hand built bike is made is completely defeated by the poor video.
@mikehenry872
@mikehenry872 5 жыл бұрын
You have the coolest job In the world.
@kenneely7899
@kenneely7899 2 жыл бұрын
You should take a frame building class. You will learn so much. You can do it! It will make you think. Hope you go for it. I was able to make a road bike. Columbus SLX tubing.
@TheDoctorhuw
@TheDoctorhuw 5 жыл бұрын
Just wonderful, something to aspire to, in life as well as owning and riding!
@ianthomas7139
@ianthomas7139 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an ‘89 GT Avalanche that I still use daily. I wonder if that was built there. Tange cro-mo...
@2wheelsrbest327
@2wheelsrbest327 5 жыл бұрын
Great interesting video Jon. Life certainly can be funny at times because its only after watching this I now realise how much work went in to building my Roberts Tourer.
@johnsantoro6437
@johnsantoro6437 Жыл бұрын
SO COOL! GREAT VID
@techstryker
@techstryker 17 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@priyandias8475
@priyandias8475 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely satisfying video. Good to see such a simple birthplace of most legendary brands of bikes.
@-t-h8560
@-t-h8560 5 жыл бұрын
bike porn on a whole other level~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 5 жыл бұрын
Sure is!
@doronron7323
@doronron7323 Жыл бұрын
A real amateur watching real pro's working, yabbering away and wasting everyone's time.
@benmagee1751
@benmagee1751 5 жыл бұрын
Fishing Pole/Toray Carbon... doesn't seem a great deal of difference to me! ;)
@ketjuariittaa
@ketjuariittaa 5 жыл бұрын
Why they don’t tigweld steeltubes to make frame rather have lucks (or not) that they jointweld? Like they do with aluminium frames.
@zoedeufel2593
@zoedeufel2593 2 жыл бұрын
what is the weight?
@markbooth6745
@markbooth6745 5 жыл бұрын
Great video GCN, you can't beat a hand built steel frame. The best.👍👍
@dananghell
@dananghell 5 жыл бұрын
Another dope video
@BrentonChan
@BrentonChan 5 жыл бұрын
That is beautiful! Simply beautiful. You can really see the builders' dedication and discipline.
@kenmiller5106
@kenmiller5106 5 жыл бұрын
This video is dear to my heart. My first road bike was a Green Toyo. That frame set was sweet. It died because of a chain stay crack.
@cliffordromina3527
@cliffordromina3527 5 жыл бұрын
You can still store your frame like that one bike on the video that is missing a seat tube..
@kenmiller5106
@kenmiller5106 5 жыл бұрын
@@cliffordromina3527 Since it was given to me by a very cool bike shop here in Japan, I gave it back and now it is on his wall. Long story short, it was handbuilt for a 62 KG Japanese climber and I am a 81 KG American crit rider. That frame never should have been under me. But it did do it's job, it got me hooked on the road(after 18 years on MTB). I did buy a carbon bike from the same shop.
@andronicodelrosario773
@andronicodelrosario773 4 жыл бұрын
It might be too late to ask this, but does anyone know if Toyo Frame does international shipping? Unfortunately their website is mostly in Japanese.
@DavidJones-be6ew
@DavidJones-be6ew 5 жыл бұрын
Kill the awful music! It’s a horrible distraction and I can’t hear the presenters. It’s not needed!!!
@PrabuddhaDasGupta1966
@PrabuddhaDasGupta1966 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! It is great to see meticulous craftsmanship.
@andredegraaf1643
@andredegraaf1643 Жыл бұрын
Great report. Just to remind people that hand craftsmanship is alive and well and that just because the product is made in Japan (or any other place in the orient) does not mean lower quality nor skill.
@craighenry7915
@craighenry7915 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome frame shop.
@paytonswanson8987
@paytonswanson8987 2 жыл бұрын
Was 1987 SHOGUN made in this building?
@mdtrx
@mdtrx 5 жыл бұрын
Not Osaaka, Oosaka! ;)
@samuelhopely4853
@samuelhopely4853 5 жыл бұрын
I would kill to do this for a living.
@txm100
@txm100 5 жыл бұрын
You could build yourself all the frames you want! That would be amazing.
@rocco1onerocco983
@rocco1onerocco983 5 жыл бұрын
Some questionable hand gestures there John in regards to the big hole in the bottom bracket??! great vid...
@Reevezy67
@Reevezy67 5 жыл бұрын
I want one.
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