Making a Signal Gantry at Chadwick Model Railway | 30.

Signal Gantry construction at Chadwick Model Railway
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[@TheDaf95xf]

Afternoon Charlie. Great model of a signal gantry and as in your commentary most layouts just have single upright platform end signal be it a colour light or semaphore ......🤔 But what you’ve just made is a simple but really affective colour light signal gantry anyone could do with a bit of patience and watching your tutorial 👍 Great Friday afternoon viewing sat in my lorry in rainy Mold North Wales next to where the old station was which is now Tesco 😢 Have a nice bank holiday weekend Stevie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Stevie, I’m pleased to bring a little light relief to your day. Happy modelling. Regards Charlie

[@PhilipInCoventry]

Over the years I have used lighting, even on my semaphores, but I have cheated on my current railway by using coloured sequins. I know you will throw your hands up in horror, but visitors often remark about the illuminated signals. Depending on the angle of viewing we see either red or green, no matter what it is supposed to be showing. I do enjoy your presentations, wholesome, honest & packed with experience. Thank you.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Sequins, well that’s a new one for me! Still if looks good, who cares. Regards Charlie

[@edwardwaltonbespoke5817]

Super video Charlie, Thank You! Always a pleasure to watch. I hadn’t even thought about this aspect yet, so it’s great to know I can come back and learn again! :)

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Edward, It’s comments like yours that make it worthwhile recording these videos. Good luck with your project. Regards Charlie

[@alangray9675]

These videos are great Charlie. Please keep up the good work.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Alan, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@tonydaly2642]

Well done again Charlie. Looking good.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Tony, I’m pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@paulturenne434]

Another fine tutorial and very timely ,as I am planning on building a scratch signal gantry for my layout.I plan on having working LED lights (Pico) on mine ,much work as you know,but very well worth it.This video will prove to be quite helpful and for that I thankyou.I see I will be kept very busy looking at your video channel..although this may cut into my layout work LOL Please keep doing these vids ,I love them !! Cheers Paul T

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Paul, I’m so pleased that you enjoy the videos and that the signal gantry is particularly useful. Regards Charlie

[@greghale9972]

I`m guessing you gained great satisfaction in building the Gantry with I must say looks excellent. Love your down to earth manner. Great instructional video Charlie...Congrats.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Greg, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video, It’s comments like yours that make it worthwhile. Happy modelling. Regards Charlie

[@FarlandHowe]

Interesting to watch this. I became interested in cantilevered gantry signals and came up with a very workable design for them with a part Dapol, part scratch built concept. They work very well and look very interesting. I see many like them on Southern and Western routes. Nice video, Rob

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Rob.

[@WestBlythMPD]

Nice work on the gantry Charlie, I like the way you hid the wires. Michael

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Michael, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@jolliemark6294]

Good show, I like it it's a nice touch, don't worry about the cables as the real railroads have them too, so you are still prototypical and thanks for sharing....😃

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Jack, I’m so glad that you enjoyed it. I have painted the cables, I just couldn’t live with their bright colours. Regards Charlie

[@gagasmancave8859]

great example of kitbashing Charlie dont worry about the wires showing the real ones have condits showing too once painted the disapear

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Nigel, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@canalsidingsmodelrailway3411]

Nicely done Charlie. I have a couple of those to do myself in the future so nice to see how you didi it. On the subject of wires showing, the real thing will also have the same problem so I will certainly not be too worried about it! ..............................John

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi John, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. I painted the all the visible cables as I couldn’t bear to see the bright colours having spent so many hours building it. Regards Charlie

[@onnomulder9775]

Thank you again for a great video!! Regards Onno.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so glad that you enjoyed it Onno. Regards Charlie

[@stmichaelshill7421]

Great stuff Charlie - I'm looking to do some signal gantries at the moment and this really helps. I quickly built the Dapol one - and like you said it's very much a trainset type kit.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. These gantries are so cheap, it doesn’t matter if you ruin a couple to get it right. Then the more interesting part of fitting lights. Regards Charlie

[@stmichaelshill7421]

Yeah exactly - I'll pick one up and give it ago.

[@nigelcarter9503]

Another good video, Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Nigel.

[@stevecoster322]

Hiya, nice video as usual. The cabling on, 'real' signals would be multi-cored swa in black and glanded into the head. We on the other hand have three single wires so, heat shrink tubing moulded to shape all the way to the left hand end, an 's' bend from the head to straight run over flat horizontal tray where you had the flat box. For the route to underneath I liked the vertical square tube, ie trunking not cable tray. Drinking straws run across to the vertical from each heads short heat shrink and black painted would also work.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A fair point Steve.

[@LJRLowevilleJunctionRailroad]

Certainly a lot of work, but well worth it in the end, looks Awesome! Linda 🚂

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Linda, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@GalgormHall]

Well worth the effort Charlie, it may well be an off the shelf product but you have made it your own with the modifications and inclusion of lights. The little errors were comical to say the least, we all make them but maybe don’t always admit it. Paul

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Paul, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Yes we all make mistakes but the skill is learning from others, if only! Good luck with your project. Regards Charlie

[@PhilipInCoventry]

Brill. Thank you.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Philip.

[@davidmuse7004]

Very nice build and like the way you made you choice of which to use. Soldering of the brass signal bridge looked good also, if you plan on doing more for your layout or the club layout, maybe take a look in on using and RSU (Resistance Soldering Unit) they are used to build brass steam and diesel engines and work great and you can get the as cheap as $169.00 dollars (US). Very easy to work with and there are a number of videos with demos of these units!!! Enjoyed the video as always! Cheers!! David Muse

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi David, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I’ll look into RSUs, that’s something that I haven’t heard of before. Regards Charlie

[@james.m.evans.]

I find the dapol kits are amazing for kit bashing as I am able to create amazing overhead catenary holders from them

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found the video useful.

[@66122]

Nice video i have two of these kits my self nice tips 👍👍👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi (sadly I don’t have your name) I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@johnmarshall2660]

Hi Charlie, I love your helpful hints, looking at gantrys and other plastic parts for Model railway you will have to get a 3D printer they are great for Railway models and I have modeled quite a few bits plus things I have put on thingiverse inc signals, Gantrys, bridges, Bolton Station etc etc ....LOL,... going through all your videos again slowly great help keep them coming...

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoy the videos and hopefully you’ve subscribed too.

[@richardstedman223]

Lovely watch

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Richard.

[@paredding]

After a day and a half installing 7 Cobalts and wiring them up (5 to go) I needed a break and turned to another of your videos for some R&R to find one of my favourite subjects - signals & gantries. TBH I really like the Airfix versions (esp painted flat German green, the walkway in wood and with all the handrail posts installed and cotton or wire fed through. They really do look the part IMHO). I bought 3 original kits in the old boxes (not the Dapol plasticene versions) and have combined 2 into an extended one like you have (took some careful planning on the girder panels) and a std version. I have drilled out the lamp holders to take tiny GOW bulbs at low voltage so heat should be minimal (it was before I found LEDS). Anyway, your idea of the Plastrut box section is great; it was the one thing bugging me how to feed the wires through, so thanks for that and I will pick some up from the model shop in Munich next month. Further, I also bought several packs of the Modelscene Light Signals www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=PE5094, not least because they are a great price for a twin pack BUT that they come with the switch boxes. I will similarly drill these out and install LEDS. All the signals will be connected to the aux output on the Cobalts so I can see from a distance what routes are set quickly. I also agree with you on brass PE kits - they look fabulous but v expensive and take alot to build. I have a couple of Ratio semaphores to build too and their sprues annoy me being in a closed loop making it hard to cut out. I also think I have a couple of those Berko kits I picked up at a Train Fair years ago to try out. Anyway, all good stuff Charlie and thanks again for the Evergreen/Plastrut section solution, great stuff PS Try Revell Contacta glue for plastic kits - it has a very useful long nozzle like a humming bird.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. The plastic box section really did the job. Using brass for me, was just a nightmare. There were much easier options available and took no time at all to assemble.

[@paredding]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Small update - managed to source the Evergreen box section online from a great FR ebay shop so on with that next week. I located the Eckon/Berko kits which ironically are a packaged version of the gantry and Modelscene DIY idea; I am just trying to source some finer cable like the Eckon kits as the Viessman 0.14 section cable I have may be a little oversize. Cheers

[@pgcroc8484]

Very good Charlie. I may go this way as well. Only on revision 10 of my layout! One suggestion, looking at the picture of the real gantry you can see the cables going to the lights. I assume they are attached to some cable trays somehow. You could have put your cables in some black tubing and run it the same way. Looks more original? Keep up the good work. Cheers. Peter

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Peter, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. It was somewhat a labour of love. Regards Charlie

[@elleryparsons5766]

That’s my Style I run 2 Lines And Lookin for some More for my N Scale.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A good plan EP, regards Charlie.

[@trainsontuesday]

Great job Charlie. You seem to have mastered the ability to take something that doesn't fit and make it fit. I look forward to seeing it in use on the club layout. Will it remain in the grey primer or is there another colour to go on yet? I suppose it will also be weathered? David.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi David, I ’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I will weather it but the grey will probably be its base colour. Regards Charlie

[@sparky107107]

super, looks like a bit of work to get it just right.. but worth it in the end

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Sparky, I'm pleased that you liked it. Regards Charlie

[@richardswallow1967]

Another great how to video. I would lik like a gantry, but I have just started to install 2 Dapol semaphore signals. Shame Dapol don't do one. Maybe they will try later.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Richard, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Good luck with your signals. Regards Charlie

[@MichaelHenfrey]

Hi Charlie, The signal gantry looks excellent! I think doing a brass kit and using superglue rather than solder might be a possibility too but for kitbashing I think plastic is a little more forgiving. No need to worry about the wires I don't think because there would have been some in real life for controlling the signal so once covered in abit of grey I think it won't matter at all. Cheers, Michael

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Michael, I’m so glad that you enjoyed the video. I have to paint the cables, I just couldn’t live with seeing them every time I look at the gantry. Regards Charlie

[@davidyoung7179]

Michael Henfre

[@boneyknocknees]

Hi Charlie, I like picture of the gantry looking west at Swindon, also the picture at Bourton between South Marston and Shrivenham, I know it well. Your right, It's always nice to try and customise the models to suit. Looking at the gantry you have constructed looks superb. Great video, thanks for sharing, Regards John.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi John, I’m so glad that you enjoyed it. It was quite entertaining searching out suitable designs. Swindon, was of course my childhood home. Regards Charlie

[@glenwood4228]

Hi Charlie, did you do a video for the legs for your baseboard? Really informative.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Sorry Glenn I haven’t. However, what I use for my legs is bought from B&Q and it’s called CLS, which stands for Canadian lumber system. Regards Charlie

[@clivecobbold6815]

Hi Charlie I have scratch build my own signal gantrys for my layout of the wcml set in the 1980s as the signal gantrys on the wcml are of more modern design with the singles hanging down below the gantrys using plastruct webbing and H beams and berko signal kits 3/4 colour light aspect signal. today I have been work on converting Lima mk2b coaches in to mk2c coaches there is still a long way to go with them Charlie goodbye for now clive

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Sounds like you certainly have your work cut out Clive. Good luck mate.

[@peterdrury5196]

Thanks for this Charlie. I have just purchased two kits to make a gantry across three tracks (Up/Down Main and Branch Line approaching a junction). My query is:- How do you add the walkway and railings? I think I shall place the signals on the platform where the semaphore signals are normally mounted. Your comments would be greatly appreciated. Great tutorial. Best wishes Peter

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Did you buy the Knightwing kits Peter?

[@peterdrury5196]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Thanks for your swift reply. I bought 2 Ratio 478 Pratt Truss Gantries. I am going to use 1 off 3 aspect and 4 off two aspect signal heads on the gantry.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’ve taken a look at the video and all the details are there. I’m surely that following it along will be fine.

[@peterdrury5196]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Hi Charlie, I have read through your excellent video but it does not go on to the fitting of the walkway (maint. platform). The only way I could think of doing this. I moved the signal heads to the walkway which has safety railings fitted. Another way could be to use the cable trunking as a walkway with the signals positioned as you have in your video. This would need the gantry framework to be cut to allow access at the top of the steps. Best wishes Peter

[@mrmusdtard2]

Hi Charlie can i just give a little advise as i love your presntation but it is concerning your soldering ,so here we go ,buy a proper pair of wire strippers one that just drags the insulation a 16 of an inch and not takes it all the way off you then twist the insulation until that tightens the inner cable cable then pull the insulation off and dont keep touching the inner cable with your hands ever again because you can make it difficult for yourself as you are transfering grease off your hands on to the cable you are going to solder and human hands always carry a slight oileness in there skin so dont ever tought the bit you are going to solder ever again and your solding will be the envy of all my very best wishes Brian

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great advice, Brian, and rest assured I now have those wire strippers. Regards, Charlie

[@mrmusdtard2]

h@@ChadwickModelRailway LOVE WHAT YOU DO its always a treat to visit your channel Charlie and have fun with the wire strippers Best wishes Brian

[@chelmswoodjunction]

Hi Charlie I'm building the ratio pratt and truss gantrys. I have just watched this video and found it very helpful. But I want to ask do you think could the box sections you used for the wiring be used as the actual upright legs for the gantry for one to give more strength and to look a bit more modern ??? Please can you help with my question. From peter

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I think the best answer lies in photos of the real thing. Please google signal gantry as there are some great photos online.

[@astrabelmont]

Great video (again!), Charlie. The incidental music you used in the time-lapse section was mesmorising; what was it, please?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I'm afraid that it's a purchased royaly free package Nicholas.

[@graemewilson4126]

Hi Charlie, Video 30 at 4.35 there is a a VERY NICE WIDE GANTRY with lots of Signals and as well a larger nearly square BOARD showing a NUMBER 1 with 6 lights on, I wonder if would know the size of this, PLEASE

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Sorry Graeme, but I dont. It spans around 6 tracks! Regards Charlie

[@graemewilson4126]

@@ChadwickModelRailway ok THANKS Charlie

[@ukdieselandelectricrailway1890]

Hi Charlie. You say you ran out of plasticweld. The solvent they use (written on the bottle) is Dicloromethane which you can buy on ebay for about £10 for a Litre... that's less than the cost of 3x 57ml bottles of Plasticweld... the equivalent of 17.5 bottles for £10!! Buy in bulk and refill your Plasticweld bottles when it gets empty! You can also buy Methyl Ethyl Ketone (aka Butone) for even less, which is the same as Slaters 'Mek pak'. Cheers Dave

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Dave, What a great tip, I’m on the case. I do hope that you enjoyed the video. Regards Charlie

[@ukdieselandelectricrailway1890]

Yes, indeed, I gave it thumb-up. I have plans for something similar to this, but will have a 'feather' (like the signal ro the far right in the pic). www.flickr.com/photos/hopetrains/16134921331 As you said in your video, it's nice to have something different to everyone else. Since you're into diesel traction... do you intend to visit the DEMU Showcase show next weekend (2nd/3rd) at Burton-on-Trent? It's an excellent show, and it right up your street!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Dave, I too have plans for a feather although the wiring might be a bit of a challenge. Do keep me posted. Regards Charlie

[@ukdieselandelectricrailway1890]

You may wish to subscribe to my channel (if you haven't already). I'm in the middle of a Class 33 rebuild, in which I will be doing Surface Mount LED wiring.... which isn't as hard as it would seem... but there's a new techinique that I've recently learned about which makes it even easier.

[@iansanderson2191]

Please could you give more details of the box section? I couldn't hear the product name and can't see the label on the video.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m sorry, Ian, but I can’t. I imagine that video was shot four years ago. I probably used a box section from plas-strut. Many model, shops stock, the range, and are also available online. Regards, Charlie

[@PickleMarcel]

Another great video. I happened to stumble upon this one as I’ve been looking to make my own signal gantry’s. Am trying out the scalemodelscenery gantry kit and the train-tech signal head kits. My (very) scruffy first effort (Instagram @lofttrains) isn’t anywhere as neat as yours! Love watching your videos and getting inspiration. Thank you.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Richard, I'm so pleased that you found the video useful. Regards Charlie

[@fjrboy]

Nice job Charlie!....could you please tell me what thickness of wire do you use? Thanks

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

It’s very thin equipment wire, more thinner than 7 0.2mm

[@johnmarshall2660]

Hi Charlie .. thanks for response yes i have subscribed to your channel .. but due to my low income i unable to be a Patron but would be more than happy with designs and 3Dprinting if ever required ...John

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s very decent of you John. Perhaps you could keep me posted on your model railway productions.

[@jamesevans4498]

Hello there, this video was extremely useful as I have been pondering over signal gantries for ages. Due to my layout being LNER Im going to have to find Some semaphore signals for my gantry which has proven rather hard. I just wanted to enquire into how you would go about building a signal gantry for 4 lines plus? As I'm thinking brass would be wise but I'm confident I could buy a couple of basic plastic kits and with a little scratch building I could get a realistic looking Gantry. Thanks again for this very useful and helpful Video.........James

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi James, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. For a 4 track gantry, I would just combine 2 Ratio kits with the centre support being between the centre tracks. Regards Charlie

[@duncan1945]

Hi James, Checkout my channel for cheap signals and very cheap gantry. Regards, Duncan.

[@jamesevans4498]

Chadwick Model Railway thank you very much..... James

[@jamesevans4498]

Duncan Merchant thank you very much I'll check it out....... James

[@jamesevans4498]

After much careful deliberation I've decided to give myself a challenge and model the modern era. Meaning a lot of scratch-building. Due to me living in east anglia I want to create a layout that will serve as a memory. This is because abellio is going through the process of replacing all the older locomotives and I think its the end of an era as these lovely British built locomotives, such as the class 90, will be taken away from passenger duties. So I want to capture it as a memory and I'm debating whether I should create a channel documenting the building. Thanks, James

[@rayhalling4451]

Hi this ray from Chico ca How do you tie down the tank car "s when you spot them i don't see a handbrake? Also do you yous any cars for hot sulfur ?.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I don't understand what you mean Ray.

[@mobius8002]

I watched your video on fitting backscenes . it was useful , however...my layout is in a caravan and its not exactly roomy as its full of railway stuff and music gear, my fault lol. I decided to re build the layout in dual purpose modern image with the ability to convert to 1958 68 , and 1980s to 2000s . I bought hard board and intended fitting the back scenes to the hard board then installing . now hears my point .you used the paste on variety . seemed to work great and you had a bit of wiggle room . I got ... self adhesive , what a faff about .I would just like to say to anyone looking at your vids ,do yourself a favour and use the paste type lol much easier. I got it done but what a bugger .

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Well at least you got there in the end but it is a stressful task. Regards Charlie

[@mobius8002]

worth it in the end but those sticky back ones are not worth the hassle , one I got the hang of it I was away but better your way with the wall paper paste . cheers.

[@eminem29fan]

3mins in i can see a Red, Green n white wire's i assume the red wire leads to the red light n the green to the green light? only thing couisious me is the white wire.... which would go to power aka bus line right?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. Yes the the red and green are for their respective heads and to the white you connect the supplied resistor. Then it’s just a case of connecting the power. Peco make ideal switches for this. Regards Charlie

[@szabados1980]

It looks nice indeed! What are these signals called? Starting signals, platform signals, platform starting signals? Don't they lack a yellow light... why are they two-aspect only?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Gabor, The are Platform Signals. They simply stop or start trains. Therefore, no yellow is required.

[@szabados1980]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Thank you! What if the next signal is at "Danger"? Can't they be cleared? Or is the next signal a distant signal that never has a "Danger" aspect?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s a good point but I don’t believe that the train would be allowed out of the station if the next Signals was a red.

[@szabados1980]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Thank you indeed.

[@richiesquest3283]

What were the signal gantry kits you used ?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

It was the Ratio 271 kit. Hopefully you enjoyed the video and have subscribed too.

[@richiesquest3283]

Chris i'm a bit confused isn't the ratio kit 271 in N scale ?

[@pim1234]

what music is at 6:30 ?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

It’s a set of tunes that I bought as part of a royalty free package. Only available commercially, regards Charlie

[@pim1234]

A Submariner !

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Not quite!

[@pim1234]

@@ChadwickModelRailway fake ? Be ashamed

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Why did you suspect I was a retired submariner?

[@pim1234]

@@ChadwickModelRailway LOL, no the watch ! A Rolex Submariner

[@MrSteen12]

I can't help noticeing that you can't or should I say; I can't hear the first few words, you're saying. It's as if the mike isn't turned on the first few seconds. It might not be important. but I would like to listen from the beginnig instead of this kind of abrupt start. I'm sure that it's a small technical problem that is easy for you to fix ;-) or you could just wait three seconds, before you begin talking. I'm by the way watching you exellent videoes on a PC. I don't know if that has any cignificance. Regards Steen.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Sorry Steen but the problem is at your end. Your feed needs to buffer up first.

[@MrSteen12]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Ok, thank you.

[@Synthematix]

thats the wrong colour green led mate, this is an olive green led you need an emerald green one.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Rest assured that it is the correct colour. It’s just that the camera doesn’t quite get it right. Regards Charlie

[@Synthematix]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Yea there are about 4 different shades of green led with different colour temperatures, i always use 565nm