Making a Synthwave Beat and Talking About the NI MASCHINE+

Making a synthwave type beat and talking about some pros and cons of the Mashine+ as a production tool.
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[@WasabiNoise]

17:03 Makes me want to drive under the blinding lights of Night City bug-free

[@emilymacdonald-korth374]

Your work is always totally inspiring. Wow. You are the man. Thank you!

[@Eklipsemedia]

all i have to say is that the bass at 10:00 sounds GOOD. great content as always, thanks for pointing out the limits of this

[@Anatolisful]

that house track at 0:33 is bangin

[@ahooie]

As always, awesome high quality content! Thanks for sharing. :)

[@EmmyTheFox]

Excellent video, excellent music as always, love your content, much love from Mexico

[@chesleyrolle2789]

great video man and TRACK too!! keep them coming bro.1love

[@garden-goblin]

Agree with everything you said about the Maschine +, and as usual love the track. You seem to be growing by leaps and bounds with the M+; now that you're gaining familiarity with the workflow, do you think it's something that you'll continue to use outside of KZbin or is it still too early to tell? A couple quick tips that you may have already figured out but discarded due to personal preference: You can pin the Note Repeat/Scenes/Patterns etc pages by hitting button one (the first white button above the screen) with that page open; While loading sounds from the browser, you can use the Select button + a pad to choose an empty pad without losing your place in the browser; You can bypass effects by holding shift and pressing button 8 (or maybe 7) while on the plug-in page, you can also remove it entirely; CPU can be managed by a mixture of creating send effects and/or deleting them from the sound level and moving them to the group level, removing unused sounds (especially instances of Massive/Reaktor/etc) from kits, and resampling patterns using the sampler with the source set to internal.

[@7cd664]

Great work! Thank you

[@whentheleavesarefalling]

Oh gosh this is music you want to cry to... on the dance floor... in the rain... Beautiful Jeremy.

[@jeffryarchambeau5441]

You've convinced me to stick with Maschine mk3 on my laptop and buy an MPC Live 2 for portable use. Thanks Jeremy!

[@XenoxParticularSound]

Great video, good vibe... Talking about CPU, yes, a lot of people think the Maschine+ can't do a lot while the CPU is going up to 70 or more percent, yes, that's true, if you just load sounds and groups up into your machine, the CPU will be very fast on 90percent, yes... A solution is maybe very easy, delete the pads you don't need (as you did)... And some presets, drum kits for example, have different effects chains on EVERY pad, sometimes different reverbs and more silly stuff. Delete the reverbs, make a send effect and added Raum for example (as you already did) and you have a lot of more CPU power free... I have the Maschine+ since the first day here and I like them very much, the only bad thing in my eyes is, you can't load in 3rd party expansions, at the moment it's not possible...

[@KnightMirkoYo]

2:38 "How 2 basic" - I always knew Jeremy was a man of culture

[@floflow1024]

Using send effects is also a good way to optimise projects. Specially with something like Raum which is pretty taxing on CPU

[@KL-tn1xc]

yeah, and mixing different reverbs doesn't generally sound that great anyway.

[@Jason75913]

@@KL-tn1xc it frequently does, but you can't have both set to the same wet level and pre-delay, plus playing up their strengths helps, such as combining a warm/dark reverb with a brighter/colder one

[@AnythingAudible]

I thoroughly enjoy your videos and completely appreciate your style, Jeremy. Thank you for what you do!! You have inspired and showed me a lot of functions on the + . Cheers!

[@jasonsheridan5848]

At last! I have the m+ 3 months and found it overwhelming but this vid has helped me so much thank you 🙏

[@ab_out7036]

Thanks! Well made! great stuff!

[@iKrizNL]

Nice track 👍 sounds really chill. I can't say I want an M+.. I'm happy with the Mk3 always have the comp connected anyway 😊

[@whereisko]

Yo this third beat sounds amazing!

[@djNair]

good job, greetings from Leeds 🎛🙂

[@dguy-xk4fc]

great, thanks

[@mrclaytron]

Hey Jeremy - really nice track... I love synthwave/newwave/whatever80swave tracks. I'm finding the more I understand Maschine, the more frustrated I become with it... I do like it, it's SUPER nice hardware, but it feels quite under powered considering the price tag (some more complex presets send the CPU over 50%!) I do have a lot of fun with it though, no question about that!! Hope you continue to do more Maschine videos - I agree with everything you've said about it so far, and I love watching someone make tracks other than hip hop with it haha

[@astralbeatsmusicproduction5114]

Use send effects and you'll cut cpu usage to 1/3 of what the presets use. If you look at some of those presets you'll notice you have 15 reverbs 5 compressors 8 delays. You can use a send instead and have a fraction of the cpu usage.

[@OrcaSpace]

So good!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Great Synthwave beat you tossed up Jeremy! 🌞I wish NI add parameter animation to the macros (so we can see what is actually automating) on the Maschine+. I also second accessing more "hands on controls" to create patches from scratch on Massive etc. I always feel the CPU limit is hit too soon in an arrangement session while producing on the Maschine+. Great work on the video! Happy holidays Jeremy!

[@nickgilday8946]

I know they put the most used macros on the first page to edit faster but I also know its an imperfect solution for people who really want to use those synths at full capacity. I'm having a hard time seeing how any stand alone unit that doesn't have a huge screen could make that work though? Only thing I can think of really is some type of companion app where you can pull it up on a ipad or something?

[@Jason75913]

@@nickgilday8946 just put the remaining parameters on additional parameter pages, I don't know why they didn't do this from the start, it is mind-boggling

[@BecomingProductions]

As always great video, great track too. Its been super helpful seeing your experience with this as I'm not a maschine user and since the plus came out I've been tempted. Some of your observations have made me realise its not for me though. Ironically if they released a proper version of Massive or FM8 as hardware synths I'd be all over it. Even though both are included in this, the lack of a proper interface to dial in patches from scratch takes away a huge chunk of the appeal. I'm sure its still a very good device but just not something that would offer the benefits I had hoped.

[@TheTwyker]

Maschine workflow is so much smoother and easier than anything Elektron could ever come up with. Says me with 4 Elektron machines. :D

[@chrisbeatzofficial7063]

You can always resample back into the pad to cut down on cpu usage. Not the most ideal option but it could help

[@CommonBatch420]

Hey great video, love the info! Could you make a video of how you make videos for the maschine?

[@flundlip]

Awesome! I want

[@JustinUrban1]

That house jam was SICK

[@AlecBoyd]

I'd be very into a video thats using machine+ to control hardware synths (solves the making polyphonic patches from scratch problem too)

[@dr.feelicks2051]

Throw it at Jer, he'll come up with sumpin.✌️

[@joshatlas]

Nice vid! Hoping you’ll do one on the octatrack. Pretty please!

[@Shkur777]

You are a god of emusic🤟🏻👍🏻🔥

[@samprock]

M+ and Synthwave are good friends. For the most part (synths, basic sidechain, sounds set on board). Though I got rid of M+, do not fit with amount of stuff. As you said 90% on a decent track. Like here Raum has to go down (greeedy), but that’s one of the best piece of M+. To have instead on stock reverb. Cool track J!

[@samprock]

... and a year later I'm going to be back at it :) missing luxurious pads and creativity independence

[@1ReVLo1]

just something for u to know at 8:49 when u used note repeat, u can highlight the grey note repeat from the upper left white button this will lock that page for you, u can basically do that with any page you want to be locked in without holding it.

[@AlexanderKlose]

really enjoyed your way of presenting. your sketch sounds so nice! That CPU load reminds me on MK1 days were maschines software wasn’t able to use multicores. Constant saving an bouncing midi triggered vsts to wave for save CPU power. Still love the MK3 in the studio together with imaschine for sketching out ideas. don’t get me wrong. the plus is ok with what it can handle. its just not cutting the edge of being powerful and more portable than the MK3. I don’t mind taking a laptop and a cable with me. For sketches on the breakfast table I love the simplicity of imaschine.

[@philmakesnoise]

Not sure if you're still rocking this thing but I'd love to see a Maschine + sesh where you only sample external hard synths. I'm thinking of one of these myself but there is so much bloat that just doesn't appeal to me given the preset focused workflow. That said, there does seem to be some potential as simple place to sample my own gear, slice it up and mold it into something new. I'd be really curious about using random foley/field recording type sounds and forcing them into interesting percussion through the Maschine engine.

[@RedMeansRecording]

I've done almost exactly that for native instruments. Check their KZbin for red means recording videos

[@moguuera1197]

I know maschine is pretty limited for what it tries to be but something about its workflow just clicks really well with me

[@XenoxParticularSound]

The Maschine is not very limited, you have to think about the way you are working like every Pad has it's own effect chain, Group A1, 16 Pads, and sometimes you have different Reverbs on it, delete them and make a send effect and you have a lot of free CPU...

[@XenoxParticularSound]

@Unique Pros I would say, it depends on your workflow and what you own. When you record with the M+ itself you need phantom power, something like the R0de NT4... If you have a audio interface with XLR input and phantom power, it would be easier to record with the interface in the DAW. Because i own the NT4, i can go both ways for me.

[@MickBenjamins]

Hello cat 🥰 Great comments, I hope that NI is listening!

[@RedMeansRecording]

Me tooooooooo Mick

[@GlitchComputer]

Native Instruments should 100% add midi effects!

[@MIDERA]

Man that's some sweet stuff you're coming up with Maschine+. Obviously I need to look back into it - but the lack of a second MIDI output just throws it outside of "serious studio sequencers" at least for a lot of gear.

[@lwpweb]

excellent vidieo. All pros or cons refelect my own user experience with maschine nearly a decade long. Browsing: f.e. Splice is showing how easy and useful browsing can be.

[@lazykid9167]

So Inspiring. Awesome. BTW, hope you know you can record Automation easily with the AUTO Button pressed. Of course its not automatic Modulation like LFO etc, but it is at least something and quick and easy to use.

[@mrgum6y]

Great vid; at the end of this series you should jump back on a mk3 to compare.

[@TheEwok442200]

im loving the content you keep it real i like that, with that being said can you do a video on the maschine and models d and maybe how to setup the midi and routing, im struggling with getting the M32 to control the pad with the model d on it, if i switch pads it works but on the pad with the model d it stops working unless i change the group key mode to either drum kit or manual and it only triggers one note instead of across the keys

[@Aldoistaken]

That looks fun

[@dj_muggzy]

Can you make a video on how you made the 2nd track in the intro? It sounds so cool! When that bass kicks in 🔥

[@DYVNbeats]

Analog Kits are usually instances of “classic drum machine” kits, so these woulda been pretty great for a synthwave vibe, too. ✌️

[@birdsiview6845]

You should be able to save groups, then drag and drop groups in real time so you can mix between them seamlessly . I want that!

[@navywollweber8308]

Every instrument I own or interested in, you did a video and they look like you know how to use them 😏 Since I got my Maschine plus in September I was actually waiting to see if or when you will be coming up with this. Happy to see the first and the second video now 👍🏼 As a long time follower I find it quite cheerful to see that we are now almost on the same level ☺️ please continue as its interesting to see how you develop. And beside that, it helps us to keep up and to crack on!

[@remyvegamedia]

The presets sound so nice. I honestly think I'd go with the Maschine + over the MPC if you could create from scratch on even just one analog modeling synth. After having had an MPC One for a few weeks the workflow just feels weird. But I need a standalone and the MPC might be the only good option because I build primarily from synth/keys. Sometimes I chop what I play like a synth, but I really like building from scratch. Bummer.

[@daslolo]

that CPU is anemic! I'll wait for the next version of this hardware

[@RedMeansRecording]

Sadly true

[@solarnights4931]

CPU work arounds - Start out with the most CPU hungry part - write A and B section - resample it - then delete the synth to reclaim CPU power. Another method - Employ hocketing instead of layering to lighten the load, simplify mixing, and add sonic complexity without staring a fire.. Also try buying two M+'s and squishing them together for twice the power - it makes sense on paper.

[@Jason75913]

two M+s is a bit over the top, enough to make it impractical over a midrange laptop + Mk3 controller

[@heffe4257]

How about no. Dumbest piece of unwanted advice I’ve heard in a minute.

[@solarnights4931]

​@@heffe4257 The first two methods work and the third method is obviously sarcasm Heffe.

[@Zpro20]

Thanks for these very helpful videos! Have you found issues with the maschine+ lagging and stuttering very quickly into making a song? Like basically a few sounds in? It's been quite an issue for me and the CPU is not even saying it's high

[@dreddiknight]

I think preset machine is what ni want for maschine tbh. Great tune though man, thank you!

[@felipefs106]

I think Akai solves the "parameters/knobs" issue much better with the Q-link system

[@mdjey2]

I think it is confusing.

[@hip360hop]

@@mdjey2 lol

[@GrootsieTheDog]

A few questions: Is there an audio editor(cut, paste, mix paste, fade in, etc)? What parameters can you adjust on a synth? Like can you add pitch to an lfo to give a preset a nice analog flavor or do i need to create my iwn oatch in my computer qnd send it to the Maschine+? Maximum bars per track?Thx

[@tali813]

Question... if you use an external audio interface, does it cut down on the processing peaks of the M+?

[@crazyFrankyy]

Hello Jeremy ! Can you please make a video with Jomox alpha base ?!

[@jetsandals9017]

3:15 do the pads link with pages numbers? 16 pads/16 pages, just something i noticed...

[@teabreakbeats]

I'm considering this as it looks like they have improved the arrangement functionality in the software since i sold my MK2...but given how quickly you ran out of CPU I think it might be better to buy the standard MK3 maschine and use the spare cash to buy a fanless tiny mini pc and an extra long USB cable.

[@Kaiser333333]

Yea not sure what cpu is in this, if it had an Apple m1 chip it would be an instant purchase. As it stands though might be better to just get a laptop or Mac mini and external controller.

[@956miggz]

i agree that adding a synth engine to make your own patches and being able to assign modulation would KICK ASS. it would make the price point worth it for me. I moved away from maschine because it was basically presets and i felt stuck in the box. also the maschine plug in does not play nice inside a DAW and the standalone maschine software sucks for recording audio. I sold it started writing a lot more without it and without loops. sick videos! it's so fun to watch you work. cheers from texas

[@ToyKeeper]

+1 to all that. It seems good at what it does... but I find that there's not much overlap between what it does and what I want while making songs. It's designed for people whose creative process is very different than mine.

[@thearno2885]

It comes with a drum machine and bass synth to make your own presets. Also has massive. And a sampler. What is your problem? Laziness?

[@thearno2885]

It comes with the massive synth . You can make your own presets

[@djbowlz2128]

Would love to see you try the MPC one for comparison!

[@iwillnevergetone5]

**Live II

[@hip360hop]

@@iwillnevergetone5 the one, live/live2/x all function exactly the same

[@iwillnevergetone5]

@@hip360hop sure, on paper & with the firmware. i meant the diff layouts and physical variants that all equal a slightly different experience for each. Similar to how a strat and les paul function the same, but there are still vast differences w them

[@hannesbengsch5515]

The value of the automated parameter isn't shown in realtime in mschn, cause the controller of the parameter is set to the starting point of the automation. This enables the mindbuggled beat building end user to move the automation relativ to the controller value. So one can kind of transpose the automation at any time. A pretty musical and performance orientated thingy... Ableton Live offers something pretty similar by offering automation and modulation curves.

[@RedMeansRecording]

Oh that is neat

[@brunovalente2077]

Definitely agree with you in a lot of stuff. Hope they hear you, and start building a better UI, with deeper visual parameter control so we can build sounds from scratch with visual knobs and envelopes and stuff... I also agree ( I own Komplete 12) and those packs names don't help to much to find a specific genre drumkit. Would be better to have a subcategory with music genres for example. We do love NI, why don't they do it right??

[@brunovalente2077]

and cheaper also

[@lwpweb]

the 'pick it up' bass at around 9:15, where does it come from? Instrument? Expansion pack? Sample?

[@lwpweb]

ohhh i found it in prism, but not through the browser in maschine. Thats always the same problem with maschine, you have a browser and mostly you do not find the appropiate items. The items which are in the part of the files but not shown in the browser. So as always you have to get help from the apple finder.

[@WONDERMALT]

you're right about massive. you need to go thru the GUI in order to assign the envelopes and lfo's to the parameters unfortunately. heck i don't even think u can change the wave table directly on the maschine controller.

[@RedMeansRecording]

You can't!

[@GlitchComputer]

this should definitely be changed!

[@tonyhull9427]

I would love to have one of those but alas $1300 Is hopelessly beyond my budget. Sad because the Akai Live II is less expensive and it has a touch screen. I love the NI synths and drums though.

[@BubbaSatori]

Touch screen, battery and decent speakers for the live 2. I just don’t get the Maschine + at twice the price of the Maschine mk 3.

[@Ravioedai]

Hi! Does the maschine+ have a sampling mode that keeps the tempo put lets you play it instantly in diffrent pitches? Real time time stretch like serato sample, like keyboard mode? Maybe i want to sample a chord or bass one shot, can i play it op 16 pads in different pitches without affecting the tempo of the sample?

[@RedMeansRecording]

No. You can't. Sadly.

[@MantequillaConPollo]

@@RedMeansRecording yes you can! Watch some other tutorials from other youtubers. They are really well at explaining it! :D

[@cls6200]

Have you ever tried Akai Force? I own it and Maschine mk3 and prefer Force as it has the ability to build sounds from scratch and, of course, layer those with modified presets, resample, etc. Ultimately, I like it better than Maschine, MC-707 and other grooveboxes in its price range.

[@MantequillaConPollo]

you can do that to with machine - you just need to think a little deeper, and more program oriented, not easy if you easily fall into the easy to use work flow :D

[@pwho405]

@@MantequillaConPollo yeah it don’t sound like he even used it. I get the limits of the + but the Mk3 is toe to toe with anything out

[@z_supernova]

Synthwave yeeeeeeeeeeees

[@JBintheplacetobe]

Unless I'm wrong or you already understand, the kits you're talking about around 7:30min are organized within expansions, and each expansion has like 20-30 kits or so, so that narrows it down. I just got an Mk3 Mikro so am exploring all this stuff as well. Could be wrong though so don't pin me down on this! ;)

[@R1GAMBLER]

you work fast.

[@olinshea]

yes

[@SiHargreaves]

So I guess you got a special Maschine loaded up with all their packs, or do they all come with all the packs installed now?

[@RedMeansRecording]

No. I have all the packs already.

[@russcontact]

“So I had 20 minutes to play around before starting this video…” Rolls out a sick production ready track that would take me at least a month 😂

[@birdsiview6845]

At least with mk3 you can open the instrument itself to create patches how you want. And you need a computer screen to do that.

[@solarnights4931]

Blezz Beats on youtube makes a pack of presets for massive on M+ to create your own sounds. The presets are bread and butter type sounds that feature the parameters you'd expect to sculpt the sounds to what is needed. I don't know him, I did buy it, and it might be what some users want to make massive operate more like a synth on here..

[@RedMeansRecording]

Dope

[@matthewkillion5933]

Maschine is super great for quick sketch ideas. Once I have an idea down, I'll usually sequence and layer everything down in my Daw. The scene thing is cool but I found it hard to make actual compositions with it.

[@zooblestyx]

Very curious to hear your views on this vs the Deluge. The two things I don't want to end up with is an interface/workflow that I can't get comfortable with, and, especially at this price point, not enough CPU.

[@elialehman3052]

The Maschine+ seems to give you a vast repertoire of curated sounds and sound engines for the user to quickly and easily crank out well-produced tunes but it seems to lack the ability to get into the nitty gritty of what goes on under the hood. The deluge allows for greater ease and control of external midi and is an incredibly dope sampler, although it’s FXs are subpar and it’s synth engine is mediocre. True sound design is a strong suit of neither instrument. Deluge is more unique and allows user to make potentially more unique and individualized music that isn’t rooted in pre-curated sounds. It’s cheaper and lacks many features of the Maschine+ but what it does do it does either incredibly well or well enough. Oh and the Deluge takes on the soul of the user while the Maschine+ allows the user to customize the soul of Native Instruments.

[@KL-tn1xc]

got the deluge, here's my 2 cents. sadly i don't have the machine+ myself, but i checked the hardware out with a quick search, and it's running a quad core cpu, which sounds dated to me. you won't get PC performance out of it, stacking tons of plugs and vst instances isn't gonna be a great idea. but if you're a sampling type of guy it'd be hard to run into limitations, it has 4gb ram which should be plenty if you're not loading in a ton of kontakt patches, and cpu wise, sampling is as cheap as it can be. the only things you'll have to worry about is the FX you put on your samples. and even then i still think you can run a few instances of massive regardless, it isn't that much of a hungry synth. the deluge has a different workflow, so that part depends totally on taste, the only thing i can say is that if you're not good at punching in note recordings the deluge would have a more direct / faster workflow for entering notes manually. the fx of the deluge also don't sound that great, and the synthesis is limited compared to massive, and i really doubt the deluge has more synth voices then the maschine+ can handle. to me the only thing that is that the maschine lacks portability even though it's meant to be (you need a battery bank, and probably a fairly heft one at that to get a decent lifespan) and since the maschine+ isn't THAT portable you might as well get a regular maschine and hook it up to your PC right? no need to have the maschine+ right?

[@elialehman3052]

Deluge is about $600 cheaper right

[@RedMeansRecording]

Great way of putting it. Also the deluge gets major points for being able to easily integrate with eurorack

[@ToyKeeper]

The Deluge was built to be exactly what it is. Everything in it was designed for the specific hardware it uses, so it's all integrated pretty well. It may or may not fit your workflow, but it is at least a powerful and coherent self-contained design. It also has had the benefit of years worth of refinement based on community feedback, so it solved most of the issues people had with it at launch. The Maschine ecosystem was designed to run on a full-size computer with internet access and DRM and a marketplace of commercial expansions. When it was converted recently to a piece of standalone (ish) hardware, a lot of things either were an awkward fit or had to be removed entirely. It was created by putting together independent components which were not designed to be used like this. That made the device difficult and expensive to create, which raised its cost significantly above other grooveboxes... and it also made the device itself relatively awkward to use. So a lot of people have opted to stick with the older Maschine. It works better in most ways and, even with the added expense of a computer, typically costs about the same total amount. As a result, the Deluge is pretty widely loved by almost everyone who has tried one... and the Maschine+ has gotten only lukewarm reception even from loyal fans.

[@nukenoly8751]

TG for controller mode so I can use it with my MacBook Air M1 😅

[@asynchronicity]

Does it feel finished overall, or does it feel like there will still be a slew of updates and fixes over the next few years?

[@RedMeansRecording]

I certainly hope the latter

[@DavidDeLuge]

Sounds great but I am surprised that the CPU was hitting 100% on a track that wasn't wildly layered.

[@Shkur777]

Jeremy, where is your instagram?

[@JimHudd]

Very much enjoy seeing you working thru this but I'm not sure I can see the point of the device at all. Seems an expensive and limited way to do something that you can do a lot cheaper and more easily with a computer based DAW.

[@LiamFarleyMA]

Yeah if I didn't have a computer I would see the appeal but buying a cheaper standard maschine and getting access to vsts and my much more powerful computer seems way superior.

[@JimHudd]

@@LiamFarleyMA if I didn't have a computer I think I'd just buy a computer for a lot less than this costs!

[@donkeykingkong]

Is the CPU that limited that it would impact it being used for a full live performance instrument considering you were nearly at max on just a number of groups with a limited amount of kits and sounds loaded into them for just 1 track even if there were a number of effects on some of those sounds/instruments

[@Adrian-me3tg]

This is one of the things holding me back from getting one. He wasn't even doing that much and its already at 90 percent usage!?!?! What!?!?!

[@mrclaytron]

I think you just have to be really selective with the instruments you use. You can layer on quite a lot of sampler tracks, but virtual instruments like Massive patches tend to use a lot of CPU. Raum reverb uses a bit of CPU too. As a sampler, it's awesome. Really nice sampling/editing. As a synth, it kind of sucks for now (I agree with Jeremy that is just not so good if you want to create synth patches from scratch). I'm really surprised that it does not have a better interface for Massive - I mean, the engine is there - one of the best virtual synths of all time - and we can't program it from the box. Seems so fucking stupid to me! It is a great device though, don't get me wrong - I've had heaps of fun with mine. I think I've even started talking like a gangsta since having it

[@Thekidfromcalifornia2.0]

Wow at this moment 136 likes and no dislikes.

[@z_supernova]

Will this song be available somewhere?

[@RedMeansRecording]

I'll be uploading stuff to patreon as soon as possible

[@z_supernova]

@@RedMeansRecording Perfect, I just subbed to it yesterday 😎

[@Adrian-me3tg]

Are you ever going to do anymore Polyend Tracker stuff?

[@RedMeansRecording]

I sold it

[@Adrian-me3tg]

@@RedMeansRecording For real!?!?! Lol.

[@Adrian-me3tg]

Guess that's a no.

[@ToyKeeper]

Not too surprised. Trackers can be fun, but they're also rather unpleasantly like using a spreadsheet. I spent years making music in trackers, and even with more capable ones, it just felt too much like work. Trackers tend to encourage things to sound mechanical instead of organic, and I found it wasn't very conducive to maintaining a creative state of flow.

[@Adrian-me3tg]

@@ToyKeeper I heard that was one of the gripes people had with trackers. I thought that I would like the nice organizational benifits but it probbably will make me feel like im in statistics again.

[@KnightMirkoYo]

Somehow I half-dreamed through this tutorial and imagined that one of the instruments is a hot asian woman who refused to leave the screen unless Jeremy used her in the song and turned some of her knobs. I then thought that it would be such a cool thing to have at least one fun quirk like this in hardware like Maschine.

[@PeterRobotMusic]

Yeah I don't know why more grooveboxes don't include hot asian women who demand that their parameters be adjusted

[@ToyKeeper]

RMR makes bangers with almost anything. It's pretty amazing. This particular device, though, seems like it clashes with his work style. So some parts got me laughing pretty hard due to the creatively tactful ways he delivered criticism. "One of the things I really like about pretty much _everything else_ I own is..." :D

[@basehead617]

it’s much much better than the OP-1 in every way and he made millions of songs with that so it’s weird to get picky now

[@ToyKeeper]

@@basehead617 Perhaps not _every_ way. I mean, OP-1 has a bit of an edge in terms of size and price and portability and learning curve and ability to create new presets... not to mention photogenics for video purposes. It's a nice little sketch pad for writing down rough song ideas without getting lost in little details. Just get it all out in one quick creative burst. That's what sketch pads are for. But the OP-1 is also super limited in a lot of ways, which makes it almost mandatory to export stems into a DAW to finish songs. Personally, if I were to get a groovebox now, it'd be either a MPC or a Deluge. They seem to be the two best options at the moment. But instead, I finally decided I was sick of having so many limitations and switched to a DAW. It's a nice change. I'll probably still keep my OP-1 though, so I can doodle when I'm not in my studio. And more generally so, when inspiration strikes, I'll have a sketch pad ready.

[@EdrikPrinsMusic]

Not being able to create patches on this is a huge dealbreaker for me tbh. FM8 has been my go to synth since 2012/13 until polygrid happened. Would be cool if it were able to carry over patches from your computer but that also kinda defeats the purpose I guess. Anyway, nice overview Jeremy :)

[@RedMeansRecording]

You can do that but yeah. It's like this is standalone but not. It needs updates

[@DylanParisMusic]

Jeremy no i can’t buy more gear 😂

[@xchalibur77]

Do you think it's easier to learn the machine rather than mc 707. I don't have any groove boxes yet so I don't want to buy it and never use it.

[@RedMeansRecording]

They both offer a unique approach and challenges.

[@drewgrgich]

I will not buy a Maschine+ . . . I will not buy a Maschine+...I will not buy a Maschine+...I will not buy a Maschine+...

[@BinauralBae]

I have enough grove boxes... I have enough grove boxes... I have enough grove boxes... I have enough grove boxes... I have enough grove boxes... I have enough grove boxes...

[@thinkognito344]

CPU limits is ridiculous... only like 4gb ram?? why??

[@gminorcoles]

If only it had more midi out and cv

[@nebula0697]

Yeah this browsing through kits is just a pain in the ass, must be the same for all instruments, the entire library should live on the web site and be downloadable. Maschine should have an onboard drum instrument that can do it all, a bass instrument, a synth instrument, and everything else based on samples should be downloadable. You should be able to configure the pad kits and groups on the web site too and download it all ready to go but only what you need. MPC and Maschine workflow make it hard to avoid cringing at hundreds of over-produced cheesy unoriginal sounds.

[@pwho405]

You speaking on the maschine+ only? because I don’t want my maschine to behave like that at all

[@nebula0697]

@@pwho405 i don't know much. i like the maschine interface but i dont want to browse on the maschine itself

[@maggiemagkron]

Funny how shit the CPU and RAM is, people seemed to be bummed out about it the very first time it was mentioned and the overload in the vid was the very reason why. Some of us already don't have that much mileage on our computers lmfao