Making an air rifle moderator UK Part 3

[@Crazy_Dave]

I can't believe how well your moderator works, the bolt action was louder than the shot, just incredible. Just like others I wish I could buy something that efficient in noise reduction. I guess your next project will be how to make the bolt quieter. Awesome videos. Thanks again for sharing.

[@sub12airgunners]

yes most of the time that's harder to get quiet 😳 thanks for watching 👍

[@lisawood516]

Wow, what a difference in the noise tests. Well done!!! great videos. 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Glad you like them!

[@Rare1967]

An entrepreneur in the making. Your skills and channel are class 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

I appreciate that! Thanks for watching

[@erict3728]

Very nice. These past few months I've been experimenting with airgun moderators. I've really enjoyed it. I'm somewhat surprised that my best build is almost identical to yours. The hair curlers just turn out to be (and fit) perfect for every part Ive bought, so I've built everything else around their dimensions too. Its almost like they were made for this purpose 😆. I really like your baffles. They are much better and more efficient than my system of washers. I have washers bored out to hold the curlers in the center of the bore, one on each end of the curlers. Then washers left at their original size in between each of the curlers to act as baffles. It's too many washers and obstructions. But you've got the baffles doing both jobs, much more efficient. I've made an incredibly huge difference in sound(working with the .30 cal Umarex Gauntlet)but I'm probably never going to finish attempting to improve it.

[@sub12airgunners]

there is a bit of a science to moderators but good fun trying different types, spacing between the baffles makes a big difference and the hole sizes in them😀 thanks for watching 🙏

[@mrmactknife]

What an awesome series of videos. Your moderator turned out brilliant, in both looks and performance.

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks much appreciated, Thanks for watching

[@juliansmith9824]

Its nice to see a skilled professional still in the UK!, Keep up the good work!,

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, will do 😁

[@tomthompson7400]

Totally different tone too. Well done a great result , and it even looks smart.

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@nickloughrey9841]

Once again really enjoy your videos ............ Only did a few of introductory week's machine shop training back at Halton in the early 70.s ...........enough just to understand your procedures and methodology . You would make a great teacher ............. if you were so inclined ................

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks I really appreciate that, not sure about stepping back into a class room though. Thanks for watching.

[@Tony-o1b]

Super work and the result is amazing. Yes, very much quieter than the FX. BTW, what dye do you use when anodizing black?

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you 😀 we use caswell dye 😀

[@mapstardamo1624]

Excellent work. Just a question where do you get the sulphuric acid for anodizing? Cheers

[@Arma-Grunt]

Fascinating, also I would suggest the turbulence behind the pellets that can cause clipping is often the balance of pellet weight and airflow being out of sync, if the pellet is too light and fired through a long barrel, the pellet can exit the muzzle and enter the mod whilst the air is still pushing too much, inevitably causing turbulence behind the pellet, it may not cause clipping but will certainly open up groups, if heavier lead is used in the longer barrel, it will accelerate in the barrel for longer and have less excess air pushing as the pellets travels through the mod, using the correct weight for a given barrel length and air flow is critical for a quiet accurate shot 👍👍 keep up the excellent work btw, a brilliant video series

[@sub12airgunners]

You have got it, yep lots more than meets the eye when it come to clipping its the balance of the rifle and pellet that can make all the difference. Thanks for watching

[@oleg9782]

I am tinkering with lathe and mill at home myself and I just ordered mk3 wildcat in sniper version and was thinking to do same thing myself but 3D print the internals . Great video and learned a ton from it! Thanks

[@sub12airgunners]

Great to hear, 3d printed baffles work quite well a few people have made them work successfully. Thanks for watching.

[@iantcroft]

@sub12 Airgunners Excellent engineering! Hats off! Amazing how much quieter it is compared to the fx mod. Have you considered integrating a chronograph into your moderator? I have made one that fits onto the end of the barrel (like a moderator) with a separate display connected by a wire.

[@sub12airgunners]

Yes actually its on of the video ideas I have floating around, my idea was to take a Combro remove the excess mounts and make a mount to fit it inside a moderator, and add some LEDS and a usb port to take the data from the Combro into a android tablet using the blue shot cable. Its not a super high priority at the moment but its coming. Thanks for watching.

[@iantcroft]

@@sub12airgunners That’s a good idea too. I wanted to do something like fx and have a little display on the gun. I am using a couple of IR photo transistors, IR LED’s and resistors, these are the only components needed to fit in the moderator so take minimal space, the led faces the transistor which forms a gate (trigger), two gates, in and out, pellet breaks the IR beam, gates have to be spaced 7cm apart (exactly). Have a little microcontroller, a little display and a battery and that’s all you need. Much cheaper than buying a crombro. I see you 3D print, are you into electronics too? If interested, I can send you the BOM and a guide how you can make it with the code. A man of your skill will find it a piece of cake. I compared my chrono with a commercial one and there was just a 4fps difference which I didn’t think was bad.

[@darrena8116]

Loving your videos, they've helped me know end with my R10. I've recently bought an M3 and the shop said you don't need an additional moderator, the standard is quiet enough but in my opinion it can never be to quiet. So, before buying a new mod. I thought I'd try something like what you've done here. But not having the tools or skills, I order a 3d printed baffle on line, wrapped it me felt. Its definitely quieter but I'm now getting a quiet hiss of air, like if it's trying to squeeze out of somewhere. Any advice, help it would be so much appreciated. Do I need to drill 1mm hole at the back of the moderator or shroud..?? It would be so much easier if you sold your items rather than us lesser mortals trying to replicate your work...lol.. and a good way to make money to help fund your videos, instead of merchandise.

[@johnvanberrgem286]

That is a huge difference in loudness. Well made moderator!

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you

[@johnvanberrgem286]

I have seen a couple of your video's and you a skilled airgunner.

[@redgum1340]

Very nice moderator but I'm not sure you showed us what's inside the hair curlers. You wrapped the black cloth around the curler but what's inside? How big is the hole inside the plastic curler?

[@sub12airgunners]

the hole in the curler is 12mm thanks for watching

[@nuangel]

Terrific, underrated channel. Thanks for sharing all the know-how and test results! Have you tested 'normal' baffles as found in firearm moderators for airguns ?

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, very much appreciated. I have not, to be honest on the sub 12 rifles its so easy to get them quiet with these baffles that I have not needed to make anything more complicated, although in the future I want to make a silent rifle so ill be doing a lot more experimenting in the future. Many thanks for watching.

[@jenrizar660]

@@sub12airgunners hi sir just wondering if you sale them?

[@chrisboddy9775]

Looks great and works a treat nice job and a very informative series 1 2 and 3

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks 👍Glad you enjoyed it.

[@andydowden8117]

Another great video… I was just wondering out of all your rifles which is your favourite in a nutshell..

[@sub12airgunners]

At the moment probably the Leshiy 2, but the M3 is not that far behind, Thanks for watching.

[@leftymadrid]

The presentation is great. Also the build is fantastic!

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks a bunch! really appreciate that. Thanks for watching.

[@thetraindriver01]

Great series, thank you 👍 😊

[@sub12airgunners]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@thomaslund5902]

Absolutely fantastic build! Very impressive. Your craftmanship is gold. 👍 Being without all these tools and most certainly your skills, do you plan to produce more and place them on the market?

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, really appreciate that, the mods are not going to be for sale at the moment, I am unsure if its legal for me to make and sell them at the moment, but maybe in the future, the tools and things are selling well so ill defiantly look into it. Thanks for watching.

[@timothyjohn3006]

Hi, you are a very talented young man. Can you give me some advice, FX impact MK2 sub 12, regulator pressure is nearly the same as bottle pressure, as you adjust the regulator you have nothing on the gauge and then is bottle pressure, many thanks Tim 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Sounds like the reg has failed, have you tried replacing the O rings? the regs are quite simple and I have a vid on the channel showing how to do it. Thanks for watching.

[@timothyjohn3006]

@@sub12airgunners Hi, thank you for your reply, yes I have replaced the'o'rings and it's still the same! I will order a reg off Bagnall & Kirkwood. Many thanks Tim. Your videos are an inspiration to me and many others. 👍👍👍

[@luisferreira633]

You have amazing skills pall, can't wait for the next video 😊👍👍👍👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you so much 😀 Thanks for watching.

[@michaelbritain5546]

I have an Fx Crown FAC, the moderator supplied quiets the muzzle blast from a Firearm without the mod to very quiet with, nothing inside this moderator no baffling no felt, just an expansion space, and it works great.

[@petereriksson4115]

Just awesome. Thx for showing.

[@sub12airgunners]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.

[@marcdavis2840]

Top Job 👍 Are you planning on making any for sale ?

[@sub12airgunners]

Hi, thanks for the interest but not at the moment, I am unsure if its legal for me to make and sell these at the moment but ill look into it for the future. Thanks for watching.

[@gonzalovaras2277]

Hola amigo con que pintura o proceso pintó el supresor?

[@stevevw34]

Love your channel , you are a talented man 👍 I subscribed , Do you make silencers to order? I have a BSA super 10 MK2 FAC And without a moderator/ silencer 😂 it's LOUD , I have tried to make different types to make it better and I found that the original type that came with the gun ( spring with cups worked the best ,I used the internals but put a bigger can on it ( made out of a spray can ) with a felt liner inside the can worked fantastic way quieter but it was flimsy , have you tried anything like this ?

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, unfortunately we don't make them to order, although with the internals its all about how the air interacts with the baffles, every rifle is different and they do take a little experimentation, sometimes with excessively loud rifles we have found drilling a 1-3 of 1mm holes along the length of the mod helps to get rid of excess air and quietens them down a little, although in some rifles it makes no difference, and again with the filling we use a combination of craft felt and scotch brites to make the wadding wrapped around hair curlers, that works well for us, then delrin baffles 2mm thick with a center hole 1-1.5mm bigger than pellet size. With that setup even very loud rifles get quiet. Thanks for watching.

[@stevevw34]

@@sub12airgunners thanks for your reply 👍, I'll keep on plugging 👍 Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing

[@Scramblerkidd]

Beautiful work Sir

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you 👍

[@MrRockstar1968]

The home made silencer is a lot quieter. Maybe you should do these to order.

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks, we only do them for our guns as we just don't get time to make them for people 😀

[@mr.t8830]

Well done very impressive 👍👍 loving the Chanel any chance of getting hold of one of your c1 removal tools all the best MR.T

[@sub12airgunners]

Yep they are on eBay at the moment, link below. Thanks for watching. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373589186968?hash=item56fba69998:g:mscAAOSwnRZgjCK1

[@mr.t8830]

@@sub12airgunners hi great thanks for letting me know

[@woodsman2433]

Like nite and day, great job

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks 👍

[@vernontattersall1398]

Another great video thanx Is there more reg removal tool kits coming soon if not is there any way to remove without one

[@sub12airgunners]

Some people have found ball point pens which when you take the ink tube out are the correct diameter for the piston, but I have only heard about it being done, the Reg kits are on Ebay at the moment. link below. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373590947455?hash=item56fbc1767f:g:J5EAAOSwNwpgWKA7

[@user-vt5hx1kz7l]

Bit late to the party, but damn this series was beautiful!

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you

[@numizaairguns1373]

Looks good and it make quite. Good job 👏👏👏

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, good to hear you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.

[@philbate5555]

Spot on Jake spot on 👍👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks Phil really pleased with how this came out. Thanks for watching.

[@murdoch2717]

Great stuff thank you!!!

[@sub12airgunners]

My pleasure!

[@philnoel5839]

You Da Man. Awesome.

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you

[@devroRR]

can we do Baffles for FX moderator.

[@OhGawdHesGotAGun]

What about acoustic soundproof foam? Has anyone had success with that material?

[@sub12airgunners]

i think people do use that sort of stuff with success

[@thekillervintage1616]

Good job my friend.

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you! Cheers! Thanks for watching.

[@dhirsty1]

With all them tools & experience u could make a power plenum 720 matey

[@sub12airgunners]

I could, but the problem is I can't do laser engraving so it wouldn't say 720 on the side, stupid reason I know. Thanks for watching.

[@marouaneladjel1907]

Wow exceptional

[@nico-max]

Salut de France 🇫🇷 super job , if you make it in série join the link for buy one l’m very interesting the moderator is really quiet 👍👍👍🙏

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.

[@alvinfinlay7755]

Can you do the same for .22 by just increasing the hole size to .22

[@sub12airgunners]

Yep, I use a 7mm hole for .22, but the process is the same. Thanks for watching.

[@ifwhat8995]

Very good。Thanks

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you too!

[@jeffhello1444]

Nice 👍👏👌

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@JoelAdolfo15]

Sir can you I have one of those silencer?

[@sub12airgunners]

sorry we don't sell them

[@JoelAdolfo15]

@@sub12airgunners 😭😭😭😭😭

[@fabiocapell1804]

Nice!

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks😀

[@aronkeylfb023]

you will have this for sale friend

[@sub12airgunners]

Not at the moment, but thanks for your interest. thanks fort watching.

[@MrThangarp]

Good jop

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you 👍

[@aronkeylfb023]

👌👍🏻

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks 👍

[@Japs_Eye_Of_The_Tiger]

Home made wins by far.

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks, it quietens the rifle down nicely, the impacts not a noisy rifle anyway but its very quiet now. Thanks for watching.

[@henkerosen996]

I want one 😍

[@michaelchesney1271]

Hello, I'm starting a manufacturing company in Philippines, we will be making air rifles for global distribution. I could use a gentleman with your knowledge and skills. Drop me a message if you would be interested, thanks

[@bendangwatilongkumer4829]

Homemade s quieter

[@sub12airgunners]

👍

[@laurentperon7866]

STOP TALKING and WORK ON IT !!

[@sub12airgunners]

Just watch it !!

[@balaiyeriyer1328]

Too much "Talk" Blah Blah... Talk to the exact point don't drag & make it boring😭

[@sub12airgunners]

😂😂😂