making an ULTRA realistic Longsword Fight!

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[@leoprzytuac3660]

I sustain my theory that even someone who knows nothing about swordfights would find choreographies like this refreshing and exciting. It's not just a nerd thing.

[@sametsahin6863]

Yeah these kinds of sword fights got me hyped and interested in wepons and all kinds of tools

[@BDarOZ]

i AGREE completely. think about all the goofy sword fight made intersting by the clever use of camera angles, imagine what they could do if the base material is cool

[@lokiofasgard312]

@@BDarOZ it’s mostly due to the speed of the fight. It’s really hard to capture each important movement and sword work. Cheesier easier to read choreo is just well easier

[@t5hammer871]

It’s like a pattern or a Dance

[@IJustWantRevolution]

It very much depends on the context of the film. Something that's supposed to be realistic and historically accurate, then 100%, but most stories aren't about realism. 300, LOTR, and Northman to name a few aren't great because of how "cool" the combat is. They're good because of the emotions and messages portrayed. 300 is great as it resonates so well with the noble fire that is standing against and dying in combat without fear against an unbeatable foe, and it's inaccurate combat scenes actually ENHANCE these feelings rather than take away. Northman is great as it shows how pagan germanics REALLY were with no shame rather than christianizing/moralizing them like most media does as well as showing the tragic yet awesome story of a boy raised with nothing but hate and vengeance in his heart; he not only continued his royal bloodline with a women worthy of his seed, not only got his revenge, but also got the most honorable death a man could ask for and ascended. Changing the duel on the volcano to be a historically accurate duel would have completely killed the mood and taken away a huge chunk of emotion from the piece. All in all: Stories are SUPPOSED to exaggerate and ignore things in order to make it hit the intended message/emotion as hard as it can. If you want real history, then read a historian, instead of reading/watching a novel/film.

[@sannogaming4766]

I think this is an amazing idea and while the sword nerds would probably love this style of choreography, i think this shows why the fights are more extra in movies, shows, etc. Awesome experiment though!

[@Diremouse42]

I think fights in movies are the way they are because its partly due to safety issues and the secondly most sword fights dont last long and the general public doesnt know that. Cause theater!

[@enigmatic3194]

But you see, a lot of hd choreographed swordfights in media can get a little too... Unreal. Like sure, it doesn't have to be perfect. But the sword nerds can see a lot of the holes where a character can just go for the kill since the other is doing some spinny spin spin. My choice would most certainly be a balance of both realistic and fantastical

[@choronos]

There are a few Hollywood movies that have fights like this. Rob Roy comes to mind. The particular detail I like the most in Rob Roy is that it accurately depicts how tired the combatants get after swinging a huge chunk of metal around for a few minutes. I haven't personally seen it, but I've read that The Duelists also has very realistic sword fights (by Hollywood standards). The duel between Achilles and Hector in Troy is pretty decent. I've also been told that the sword fighting in the 70s Polish historical drama "The Deluge" (Potop) is just about as realistic as it gets.

[@DavionStar]

Love the blend of realistic combat with some cinematic flair. Seeing a balance be found is really awesome.

[@docschro6847]

Love the idea of creating choreography based of a fight match,also the off hand thrust is a personal favorite of mine e as well

[@raykotyan]

I’m literally watching this channel because I need references for my drawings I watch this channel for a long time soo… Thank you for the inspiration :)

[@curuthalion_]

This looked amazing! Also loved the little snicker before the final strike. It's the little things that really breathe life into these performances.

[@Kili_1701]

Ive watched you guys' shorts for a while and now watch your videos and this stuff is so helpful. I dont fight. I dont even know if theres like a club or so anywhere near me. But I am a writer and I often have to write fighting scenes involving longswords. Occasionally other sword. And your informations are super helpful in writing a good fight scene. And its very entertaining. Greetings from Germany! :3

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

I love this guys they have so much control to do stunt! It would be lethal if they didn't actually know how to use this swords.

[@Justin.Danford]

MORE of this please. As a layman I watch this channel because I find it interesting, this mash up of “embellished realism,” and the reveal of how it was made, hit the sweet spot.

[@kilrein]

Love watching that come together and makes me itchy to get out and play.

[@turtleberries7530]

“Ultra realistic” proceeds to use a real sword and cut off each other’s limbs

[@gansetsukon]

Tis but a scratch!

[@thundercrowz]

I think in a real sword fight they fighters wouldn’t take as much risks because you don’t know how good at fighting your opponent is and in modern hema fencing you have protection and there’s a lot more aggression because your not gonna get hurt or “killed” if you mess up.

[@catsultan949]

Their are accounts of extremely aggresive and suicidal fighters in duels. Some people dueled drunk so they wouldn't feel the pain. Not everyone you fight is gonna be a perfect fencer

[@SellswordArts]

It's definitely a mixed bag. I think generally there was more caution with sword fighting. You would understand the risks, because sword fighting was a very real part of life back then. There will always be outliers, but generally I think what we see in tournaments with fully geared up people is probably a little bit more aggressive than it would have been back in the day. Not to say it wasn't aggressive and intense, but because the consequences were so dire if you messed up, it stands to reason people would exercise a bit more caution.

[@thundercrowz]

@@SellswordArts I think the end fight was both flashy and accurate at the same time and unlike the hema duel you slowed down the fight and waited with your guard ready I think y’all did a really good job. But we don’t have real sword fights anymore so we won’t know wat it necessarily looks like exactly.

[@DarthNaktis]

Please please please do some more stuff like this but with lightsabers too maybe that'd be super awesome love watching yalls fights. I do alot of passive learning from you and take lots of inspiration from you

[@keshavabetts]

Sweet end product! I liked the rhythm. It felt much more real and dangerous than typical choreography.

[@OttoRoesch28]

I like this idea very much.

[@TSfish94]

David’s character is like a manic “nothin’ personnel kid”

[@bruuuuuuuu]

Solid work dude

[@Fokkusu]

that was amazing actually, great video, I would love to see more fighting like this portrayed in videogames

[@KickinItStudios]

That left hand thrust is rad dude. May have to try and steal it and see if I can get it to work. Great vid too.

[@noriakikakyoin8669]

I think realistic sword duels hold more suspense than flashy cuts and performances. Whilst the ladder is cool, from a story telling perspective it's always nice to give a fight plenty of suspense.

[@cesare_1302]

ULTRA realistic longsword fight aka regular HEMA fight

[@SellswordArts]

Yup. That's the whole point. Making a choreographed fight that tells a story, but is also true to the way these weapons were actually used

[@cesare_1302]

@@SellswordArts Indeed. Channels like yours and Adorea Olomouc makes great videos to highlight how cool historical fight are. Sadly we don't see enough of it in movies

[@BarbarisII]

This really is more interesting than some over the top backflip to 360 Decapitation would be

[@mar4kurso]

Love your norse hoodie (very cool❤)

[@johnbarton1941]

Good choreography tells a story in itself. While it should look realistic, the main focus aside from safety, is to advance the overall plot. Real fights are often too short to accomplish this, as first one to make a major mistake loses.

[@petronavt]

I want two swords now

[@TheLegodude102]

I don’t believe realistic sword fights work in one wide shot, but they need cinematic story telling. Shots of the guard, clear cutting and multiple face shots as well as perspective shots with the occasional wide shot as a payoff

[@shkotayd9749]

This is really awesome xD Also I love the rapiers behind you. Where do you get yours? I'll buy a set!

[@SellswordArts]

I am actually testing out a bunch of different Raiders right now. One of the ones behind me is for stage combat only, the other is an old zen Warrior Rapier that I have retired for mostly stage combat use. It's about 14 or 15 years old at this point and has a lot of sentimental value. I'm going to do some sword reviews here soon hopefully

[@favkisnexerade]

finally small cuts not incapacatating, tbh we need to come up with some rules for hema where small cuts arent fight finishers because its so dumb when they snap cut your wrist, you cut off their arm or split their head in two and its still considered double or god have merce win to first by tempo

[@ViktorNyberg]

I'd love to see another version where the fighters don't have the same goal. Like one want to kill the other at any cost, maybe an honor thing. The other just want to get out alive. How would that change the choreography?

[@peterwang5660]

I've always wanted to do this with hand to hand or with sticks, so the fight can realistically last longer, or at least, I don't have to reset in the sparring phase every single time someone gets hit. You need the skill level of the actors to match the choreography though...

[@jtinz74]

Looks exhausting. Even though long swords weight less than people think (about 1.2 kg).

[@the_allucinator]

Beautiful

[@skipperg4436]

We need a game like Sekiro but with HEMA longsword moves instead =) Need to imagine magic "zero-g" moves too for that to work xD

[@TheNadOby]

There is one already "Hellish Quart" polish and hungarian sabers, Italian rapier, longswords, broadsword. It uses autoblocking but looks decent.

[@LK-pt6gv]

0:17 guy on the right looked so much like an NPC with that movement 💀💀

[@imstupid880]

If you want more of this, please check out Adorea, they do fantastic stuff.

[@Jinxmadman]

Just seen a game that’s right up your street! Hellish Quart, it’s in early access on steam. Aims to bring realistic sword fights! Edit: I’m in no way affiliated with them, just saw it and had to put it here!

[@RexMiseriae]

His pants look cool i want them

[@jukkahuuskonen]

Maybe if the loosing guy would show some real swashbuckler skills, maybe two shorter swords. Maybe even on a reverse grip. Would make it more cinematic...

[@D4l4m4r]

I would like to point out that from the fencing manuals we know that historically most fencer did not train in protective gear. However, people didnt like dying or getting hurt in the middle ages much more than they do today, so they had to find other ways to make training safe. As a result, i am fairly sure that historic Longsword fights would have looked different from the ones we see in modern HEMA tournaments, because many of the techniques we see being used there are fairly dangerous even deadly and often both contestant hit each other (i wonder if the fighting would change if a double hit would lead to both fighters being dropped from the tournament). If you look for example at those guys - they train without gear and the whole fighting style has to change accordingly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5XNh2CdfquhsNk

[@yonatanrosner7926]

David: realistic sword fight Partner in 4:56: SPIN MOVE

[@SellswordArts]

Wasn't spinning. That was a cut with additional evasive footwork

[@yonatanrosner7926]

Can you go over it in a video?

[@yonatanrosner7926]

Also I don't think that was very evasive

[@SellswordArts]

@@yonatanrosner7926 it was. Increasing distance is an evasion

[@yonatanrosner7926]

He definitely moved into you but fine. I love the vid concept though

[@jasonslone5307]

so about your columbus tournament coming up... are there at the door tickets or is it a reservation event? im from ohio and would love to see you guys at some point. (just a fan of the sport and of this channel)

[@SellswordArts]

I don't know. I think they might have a $5 General admittance. I think the school is called crossroads.

[@robinthrush9672]

This would be fine for a movie, but in live performance this is really dangerous at speed. I think only 2 people in my lightsaber groups are even allowed to thrust above the shoulder (I'm one of them) and I aim to the left of my partner's left shoulder so it's not near the eyes. I've seen someone take a blade tip to the eye (a scratch, no lasting damage) due to her and her husband getting too comfortable with their heavily practiced fight. I'm certain you're MUCH better with a sword than I am, but there's a reason choreography is designed the way it is. Had me wincing, bruh.

[@plazma0325]

The fight starts at 4:45

[@_mb_2617]

Do you believe you would have enough strength in the final one handed thrust to actually do the simulated damage? Especially with the sword aligned as shown, would you not expect for it to get deflected at least partialy by the ribs?

[@guillermodiezbazan5638]

Are armored sworfights just as quick or does the need to attack weakpoints in the armor make the encounter longer?

[@wanderingshade8383]

It makes it longer. Generally the tactic with armored combat is to tackle or grapple your opponent and then use a dagger to get in the gaps. You could also use half-swording to a similar effect, but that requires two hands so it kinda doesn't let grappling happen.

[@-ChampionOfDeath-]

Scottish claymore next???

[@frenchgalloglass]

That was awesome ! PS: your character should have been French ! honhon

[@animemanno.4391]

yo do do yall get ur training swords?

[@wolfflamekindl9339]

It's got everything I ever wanted in fight choreography. Simply put, fights are boring. So add some camera work, stakes and/or character development and you've got a good fight. I've never thought adding jumps, spins, or ridiculous techniques made a better fight. Thanks much for this one

[@SimpleSlave]

That's cute but where's the Stamina bar? So confusing...

[@JuanEnriqueBernalLeal]

Send this to Lucasfilms

[@andresantoniovalencia1257]

How tall are you guys?

[@3rdeye7thdimension]

but a single wound, especially ones to extremities doesn't cause death instantaneously.

[@Kingdomkey123678]

So in most HEMA clubs points are scored when you land a cut or thrust that would have “Ended the Fight.” That doesn’t necessarily mean it would have killed the person that got hit, but it always means they would not have been able to continue properly fighting. It’s hard to swing a sword after all of your hand is a mangled mess or your muscles or tendons in your arm are cut in half, even if your arm is still attached otherwise

[@3rdeye7thdimension]

@@Kingdomkey123678 right, according to HEMA rules; they also address this with the double hits, as momentum carried from a strike wont just evaporate because the other person made contact first.

[@nahuel9463]

Make a sekiro sword fight style xd

[@jonathanthompson5900]

Ca Someone add lightsaber blades

[@connelevish3797]

Hello there

[@chrishayes6359]

Hey noob stick him with the pointy end!

[@therealericrazdik]

Jesus christ idc yall need to wear a mask if ur gonna continue using metal blades

[@SellswordArts]

We do use makes when we are actually fencing. When we are doing stage combat, the moves are choreographed and there are safety procedures in place

[@bobthedragon2105]

Hello

[@stilllife8]

0/10, did not end him rightly.