Making basic copper carbonate

[@NotSoLogical]

now i want an advanced copper carbonate

[@gummel82]

NotSoLogical What about the pro copper carbonate

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

Zitronensaft Needs licencing... :D

[@marshallhorton7526]

NotSoLogical sorry your stuck with copper carbonate that wears uggs and drinks pumpkin spice lattes.

[@RoflCraft96]

the fuck did you saaaaay ?

[@aeriumsoft]

copper carbonate EX

[@victorgigante5374]

I love how blue copper compounds are.

[@eier3252]

Nobody: Copper compunds: I'm blue daba dee daba die

[@xtreme1002003]

@@eier3252 Cobalt: “Hold my beer.”

[@MICRSCP]

@@eier3252 legendary

[@miscme6046]

Yes

[@miscme6046]

@@xtreme1002003 yes

[@MrMiki434]

5:19 it is awsome to see that copper forms a complex when HCl is added (Cucl2) with a green colour. But as soon as water is added, cooper starts to create a complex with water instead which has a light blue colour

[@martinpopov5893]

Cu(H2O)4 2+ 2Cl-, copper tetraaquadichloride

[@kjpmi]

I love copper salts. Copper and chromium, so many vivid colors.(and yes you actually pronounced my name exactly right, you'd be surprised how many ways you can fuck that up)

[@NileRed]

+kjpmi haha i am glad i did. I just rolled with my first instinct

[@kjpmi]

@@kutukutu5821 My last name, I'm guessing. I don't remember...it was 4 years ago, apparently.

[@user-pr6ed3ri2k]

Eat chromate

[@kjpmi]

@@user-pr6ed3ri2k I'll give you something you can eat

[@squigglesmcjr199]

​@@user-pr6ed3ri2kwhy?

[@LiborTinka]

"No Smurfs have been harmed in the production of this video."

[@baardkopperud]

One of the first - if not the first - experiments for my old Salter chemistry kit back in the mid 1980s.

[@GymGirl88]

For anyone watching this from a chemist: remember always add the acid or base into water NEVER water into acid or base (which is what he does here when cleaning, if you have a very concentrated acid or base the mixture heats very quickly)

[@ariatcg]

I'm guessing the HCl is 30%, and the rule of not adding acid to water really doesn't apply here

[@GymGirl88]

@@ariatcg quite possibly, I'm not questioning his safety skills, note just adding knowledge for others. Since there's no obvious reaction we can assume his acid isn't too concentrated, but it's better safe than sorry

[@ariatcg]

@@GymGirl88 ​yeah i always follow the rules, but i have seen people saying that it only applies to nitric or sulfuric acid at high conc. and the highest conc. of HCl in the lab is probably around 38-40%. Mine is 32%.

[@GymGirl88]

@@ariatcg even with that level of HCl you can get heating of the solution in my experience. 🤷 But I've also made 50% hcl solutions from concentrated hcl for cleaning teflon bottles and that definitely gets hot

[@ariatcg]

@@GymGirl88 thanks for letting me know :>

[@Prototype5151]

Both your channel and Doug's are one of my favorites ever. The quality is just outstanding. Great job ;)

[@AntiProtonBoy]

that's a really nice colour

[@Spycyzygy]

Good job Nile, you remembered all of the chemicals this time :D

[@utubefrog09]

I love how you always mention where you saw a particular experiment and give shout outs, that’s awesome

[@Leon21CS]

Hey Nile, have you ever considered doing a Q&A about your lab and processes? I would also love to see a tour of your lab space with all of your glassware and the chemicals that you have synthesized. Also, could you look into the synthesis of amino acids using the Strecker synthesis? That would be awesome! Keep up the great work! I love your videos.

[@NikeTao]

Could you some time do a video (or maybe a series) on basic lab setups? I know you show them in every video, but I think it would make a really nice series if you in detail explained when to use which condenser, when to use a fractionating column, what flasks are used for which purpose. As far as I know there's nobody who would cover these aspects and it's really useful for people who actually want to practice real chemistry. Hope you notice this Thanks, love your videos!

[@chemlab9873]

I made this basic copper carbonate in the 2 times less smaller scale but the final yield was surprisingly too excellent than I expected. Now I almost have a small tub full of Basic Copper Carbonate.

[@kastynm.9004]

So my dog usually doesnt give 2 shots about what im watching but hes really trying to watch this... he got mad when i moved my phone & now hes whining because he cant see whats happening😂😂

[@zelda.1129]

ok lol

[@kaseygage9462]

Love this comment🤣🤣

[@violetraven9440]

Well I can’t blame him

[@breaksbassbleeps]

Good video. Thought you might like to know that unlike some other compounds, sodium carbonates solubility actually decreases as temperature increases.

[@RaminousPolacious]

While watching the video i asked myself, "where is the blue?". The grey scale mode was active.

[@Connection-Lost]

It's funny how in the game Factorio, copper ore is orange-red while iron ore is this color of blue, lol. I mean it does actually help you remember easier, since the products you make are also those colors, and no one said a game where you build factories and trains from scratch, alone, by hand, was realistic.

[@derpestcake9669]

Yes

[@kadenherzog9727]

when it was in the paste form it looked like it would taste so good

[@NicholasMonks]

Just a beautiful compound.

[@ATFieldZenkaii]

0:18 In chemical equation You wrote "calcium carbonate" instead of "copper carbonate".

[@NileRed]

+Gingerbread of death noooooooooo :(

[@pyrofriends2323]

+Nile Red can you produce CuCO3 by exposing your basic copper carbonate to CO2 at higher pressure? If you make a video about this it can be very interesting!

[@tjhooker7483]

Did you know what he meant? Then zip it, Shirley. Maybe he is using the pictured rxn as his experimental template.

[@deepikanarayan6515]

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

[@yingxiawei821]

@@tjhooker7483 u idiot. Does he have to zip it?

[@chasestuff2230]

Your videos are very soothing i watch them to cool down

[@rittenbrake1613]

Oh I love Doug's Lab and Nile Red , Both gained my Love

[@buckhubach2720]

thanks for adding the cleaning tidbit for the fritted funnel

[@Riot228]

That deep blue is beautiful

[@Moire9]

love the color of the pentahydrate, both powdered and aqueous!

[@markuslouw3727]

Oh my lord copper carb is so messy. We use it as a glaze colorant in pottery and it’s just *so green* it turns absolutely EVERYTHING green in raw form.

[@Prchemist06]

Do you use cobalt carbonate ?

[@dragonphog579]

Finally, a NileRed video I need for my school work

[@mochimoy8865]

His tool labs is on another level.

[@squish718]

this was insanely helpful as a reference for a scientific discussion, thank you so much!

[@kingdomofportugal-brazil]

I made a lot of it using this method!

[@bkm83442]

You can use baking soda instead of sodium carbonate. It's cheap, available, and dissolves more easily. You end up with the same products, plus some water which gets filtered off anyway.

[@miljancc]

CuCO3 is my favourite chemical compound.

[@holguacamol8408]

will you be showing us both the intermediate and advance copper carbonate next?

[@zanpekosak2383]

By adding sodium carbonate soulution to CuCl you can neutralise it and that add NaCO3(s) until it percipitates. You will get CuCO3 and NaCl.

[@jade43296]

Copper has one of my favourite chemical hues. The blue is always rich with depth.

[@NileRed]

+Boltzmann It always has a nice blue color :)

[@jhyland87]

Turns out... if you heat up the basic copper carbonate too much, it degrades into CuO, which is a black powder. I didn't know that, and I tried drying the end result on a hot plate. I kept thinking there were impurities in the copper sulfate pentahydrate or the bicarbonate. I did a couple runs before I was able to find out what it was, lol.

[@thepracticalscientist7356]

sodium carbonate is exothermic when mixed with water so it does not really need heating

[@jhyland87]

Neither you or Doug mentioned that heating it to drive off the water is a bitbof a sensitive peocess, lol. It decomposes into CuO, which is black. I was convinced i had impurities in my carbonate or copper sulfate for the first run.

[@Potentialiser]

Even tho I won't be doing many of these things shown in your videos, in the near future atleast, it's hell as entertaining to watch. Good on you, mate.

[@NileRed]

+potential - iser Thanks!

[@dex1lsp]

I love that colour so much!!

[@djspacecake]

yo nile ! could you re do this one and record it using a macro lens, maybe lower 1/3 exposure, i think the visual would be amazing. you're awesome

[@badent94]

you deserve way more subs than you have

[@NileRed]

+Brandon Dent Thanks :)

[@DobleWhiteAndStabley]

I love watching your videos. It inspired me to do my own chemistry even though im poor as all get out.

[@nunyabisnass1141]

Now this is interesting, because I use baking soda and water to clean sulfated electrical connectors (connected to a lead acid battery of coarse), and that is the exact color of the waste wash. Obviously I'm not a chemist, but this will be useful when explaining why i use this technique in the future.

[@BadPete81]

I remember a time when I was eagerly measuring niacin from beer with CE. Some time and pain later I realized that in nature it tends to be in amide form.

[@arnavbhagwat3163]

I Actually did the reation but I found decantation and evaporation works really well cause it give more denser copper carbonate but I used it to make colored chalk

[@Molko701]

but that would leave any un-reacted copper sulfate (which should be in slight excess) in the copper carbonate. Best to do a vacuum filtration and wash with hot (not boiling!) water.

[@arnavbhagwat3163]

I was just suggesting a cheaper way but yeah your point is valid for making pure copper carbonate

[@nunyabisnass1141]

​​@@Molko701i disagree and feel free to tell me how I might be wrong. Instead use an excess of sodium carbonate to ensure no copper sulphate remains, and wash and decant several times to wash away the more soluble sodium sulphate.

[@timetogetcancer7866]

The crispiness of the video...

[@messiahyah]

so when is the Q&A video coming? I am looking forward to that!

[@NileRed]

+Imlife I keep forgetting to do it, haha

[@messiahyah]

No problem! I gotcha man!

[@edgeeffect]

This is the first chemical experiment I did at home, back when I was about 12 or something... takes me right back to my youth. ... oh no, I think I did it with CALCIUM carbonate. I always wanted to reverse the reaction back to Sulphate... but I've always assumed that it would need Suphuric Acid... and I couldn't get that at that tender age.

[@edgeeffect]

No problem... I can get drain cleaner that's just sulphuric acid and inhibitors now. But I couldn't when I was a kid.

[@pietrotettamanti7239]

kan petyim HCl can't protonate sulphate, or more properly, it can, but only a few.

[@theterribleanimator1793]

Pietro Tettamanti hmmmm, i made nitric acid with some fertilizer and muriatic acid, isn't nitric acid soposed to be stronger than sulphuric acid?

[@pietrotettamanti7239]

The Terrible Animator i don't know, but i think that sulphuric acid is stronger than nitric acid. you did a low conc. nitric acid, and probably highly contaminated with hydrocloric acid. to synthetize nitric acid is better to use sulphuric acid, as it has a very high boiling point. hydrocloric acid has a lower bp than nitric acid, so you boiled away HCl with HNO3. the problem isn't the strenght of the acid, but his bp. the reaction between H2SO4 and KNO3 to produce HNO3 can go forward because you boil away the nitric acid. by reacting SO4-- with HCl you would produce some H2SO4, but it would be more or less 50/50 of the two acids and you wouldn't separate them.

[@pietrotettamanti7239]

The Terrible Animator how did u test your nitric acid?

[@SmoulderDrache]

That copper sulfate solution is such a drinkable shade of blue

[@Ubernator]

Nile Red, I am sure you have seen the product called Never Wet. I want you to run some experiments with it to see if it has any good use in chemistry. Coat the inside of some beakers and see if it helps with chemicals from sticking to the sides of the beaker. Instead of having to wait for the liquids to finish dripping out of the beaker you can just watch as everything plops out instantly!

[@NileRed]

+Justin Angers That is an interesting idea but i would always be concerned that the never wet would either react or contaminate my reaction

[@Ubernator]

+Nile Red I am not a chemist at all but I think Never wet is silicone based?

[@Lucian4694]

This may be an old video and my comment will likely not be recognized but I just wanted to say that copper carbonate just so happens to make my favorite color! :D

[@KowboyUSA]

Already subbed to Doug's channel. Been watching his videos for years.

[@upyours5460]

Hi nilered, I was wondering if you could do a video on botulism? I know it may be outside of the field you work within. It would be neat to see a chemist do a few experiments

[@nunyabisnass1141]

Just so you know, its ok to use excesses in this reaction so long as you get everything to dissolve since rhe reagents are so cheap. CuSO2 doesnt dissolve i water nearly as easily as literature tends to claim, so using more water is just fine since it wont harm anything unless you have limited container sizes.

[@Nexus4582]

Not sure if you take suggestions but I'd love to see some polymerisation reactions. I saw someone make nylon when I was younger and thought it was pretty cool.

[@heh_boaner]

I'm glad he showed how he cleaned it because it looked like a nightmare.

[@bkm83442]

You can dry it more quickly in the microwave, but it gets *very* hot very quickly.

[@Wishingweezy]

Can u sub to me

[@nutbreaker22]

First I made that hilarious comment, now I'm making this reaction myself. You live, you learn.

[@nostalgistl0058]

sodium bicarbonate with copper sulfate also works.and it won't need heating

[@randomsleepyness]

Whenever he adds distilled water 👌

[@jamie91995]

You should have used the copper chloride made from the copper carbonate and hydrochloric acid to dissolve aluminum.

[@Anomalocaria]

so i've been binging all of your more recent videos, i know you've been doing loads of edible chem, but i'm wondering if you'd ever be interested in doing some climatology/environmental chemistry. i'd be wildly interested to see a video about the whole copper patination process. been thinking a lot about the Statue of Liberty and the various green copper parliament rooftops around the world and what that color is actually coming from. is it just copper carbonate? it looks like the same color, but i'm just wondering how that occurs naturally. i know that there's a lot of carbon in the atmosphere and there's moisture everywhere - is this just something that happens because of the acidity in the rain, or is there something more complicated going on? cuz most people think it's just a simple oxidation process - but actual cupric oxides look black or red from what i've seen.

[@carnivorousplants5217]

You should try adding pennies to baking soda and hydrogen peroxide, 1.2.3 ratio. You get a blue copper liquid that does a bunch of stuff.

[@VidyUwU]

It’s sooo pretty

[@yesitsmojo24]

School: "Never add water to an acid" Nile: 5:24

[@scabbarae]

I just tried to make basic copper carbonate today by adding sodium bicarbonate solution to a solution of copper (II) acetate that I made previously. At first I got what I think was the right compound (instantly saw a chalky blue-green precipitate), but I made the mistake of heating further and it turned black. I'm guessing it converted to CuO.

[@eier5472]

Step 1: Take Copper Carbonate Step 2: Let it have Tiktok, Starbucks, Gucci and McDonalds

[@shaphyshaphy]

I clicked on the video just cause the color was so nice

[@grants5167]

Interesting. I run a plant that manufactures around 20 tonne of BCC a day and we do it different to this. However some of the similarities are fascinating as is seeing the reaction

[@Wishingweezy]

Bruh. Can u sub to mee

[@s.sradon9782]

i was procssing copper into copper sulfate using my automated chemical reactor via the; atmospheric oxygen process and after i poured off the solution, the unreacted copper was left for an hour and copper carbonate formation was observed, this method seems significantly more economic and easier to automate.

[@friendstype25]

It's so pretty!

[@Shruthi.shashidhar]

Damn that's some good yield... Anyway, does the acid you used to clean the copper carbonate breaker wash off with water?

[@pyrofriends2323]

Very good video! Thank you!

[@Big_Gourdo]

Beautiful color

[@DFliyerz]

I wasn't aware that copper carbonate could be used as a catalyst for the decarboxylation of niacin. Glad that I won't have to make ammonium chromate!

[@jasonpatterson8091]

You might have gotten all of the sodium carbonate to dissolve in 200mL of water, but it would have been a close to saturated solution at 40°C. Below that and above that the solubility drops (to only about 40g/100mL at boiling.)

[@NileRed]

+Jason Patterson I had no idea

[@jasonpatterson8091]

Nile Red And for this it didn't much matter, of course, just an FYI. :-) Carbonates often have odd solubility curves...

[@mtalhakhalid1679]

Monosodium glutamate or Chinese salt react with copper has a deep blue color i have done it at home

[@AegisBg]

Greetings, Nile. I have a question to ask regarding a different approach to the synthesis of copper carbonate. I recently conducted an electrolysis of a saturated sodium chloride solution with a copper anode. As you might imagine the anode corroded horribly and the solution attained a bluish-greenish color which I assume is due to the formation of cupric chloride. I initially thought of disposing of this solution but your video got me thinking. Can I add sodium carbonate to this waste solution and expect to observe copper carbonate precipitating on the bottom of the container?

[@AegisBg]

Disregard my earlier question as I left the solution to stand overnight and somehow a piece of metallic copper had fallen into it. What might have happened afterwards is the reduction of cupric cations to cuprous cations and given the other compounds in the solution (sodium chloride and sodium hypochlorite) copper oxychloride is a possibility. Another option is copper hydroxide since my solution had a pH of 11. In either case, a precipitate reminiscent of both compounds crashed out of the solution. Could you share your thoughts on this and also tell me whether it would be a good idea to filter the precipitate and test it with some ammonia (if I end up with Schweizer's reagent, then I will be sure)?

[@napalmholocaust9093]

You missed out on some terrific video of it settling from an overhead view. Made some to use on powdery mildew and just watched it upwelling and settling simultaneously, very odd.

[@FlowersForYou629]

Is there a reason you don't use the clear funnel for other experiments? Or was the clear funnel just a recent upgrade? Looks cool though! When you had your white funnel, I imagined having a clear funnel would be neat for your videos. Now you have one

[@NileRed]

+Tcamp I pretty much just use the clear one for visual purposes and I try to use it whenever i can. It does have a purpose though. It is resistant to acids/bases and paper isnt. I NEED to use it if the stuff i am filtering is corrosive.

[@FlowersForYou629]

Ohhh, I see. You're awesome. Thanks

[@TheBladeOfTheHero]

This isn't just your non-average day rare and very hard to make copper carbonate... This is BASIC copper carbonate!

[@TheBladeOfTheHero]

+john black it was a joke

[@davidsferrazzo]

Oh yea I totally needed to know how to make this.

[@angieclark608]

The sulfate carbonate went from having Neptune's color to having Uranus color when the sodium carbonate was added.

[@SenkoLoaf]

And here, is where the mic quality improves drastically

[@gogear131]

what are the vacuum filters made of? they seem like glass but the filter doesnt look like glass but like a ceramic? (nile you should do a tour of your lab)

[@derekyingyong1813]

+gogear131 looks like some kind of fibers

[@atrumblood]

It is a glass sinter. Basically a porous glass disk.

[@justADeni]

Its micro beats of glass packed up super tight. I know, because I have worked with them, and i have one myself

[@Vladimir-q8h]

That's great. Now make Cu2​(CO3​)(OH)2​.

[@elyesmehri3067]

The equation should be like bellow since your Copper Sulfate is pentahydrate : 2CuSO4*5H2O + 4NaHCO3 = Cu2 (OH)2CO3 + 2Na2SO4 + 3CO2 + 11H2O

[@olzoro8985]

I already made some CuCO3, just via CuCl2 Solution but in the same way. Love your videos nile, keep up your awesome work! :)

[@therat4890]

I forgot pH was a thing and assume that, somewhere, there is a complex copper carbonate

[@mairisberzins8677]

How would you go about making azurite (another basic copper carbonate - Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2 )? Is it just a case of different proportions of starting materials or do you have to take another route?

[@khalilsabbah4696]

On 0:18, you misspelled calcium carbonate to copper carbonate. Just FYI

[@OmegaMegalodon]

it is beautiful

[@AmericanFishDude]

Hey I have a question unrelated to the video. I recently bought some IPA and Hydrogen peroxide. After doing some research I found a few websites that said it is possible to make ketones by mixing them, and probably with a catalyst. Could you maybe make a video on how to do this, or just explain to me how? thank you! love the videos keep them up! ill diffidently donate once i get a card!

[@dinamoore1580]

We like sodium carbonate aka. soda ash aka. washing powder and sodium bicarbonate

[@SerpentLight213]

If you are going to make pyridine, would you theoretically and practically work your way up to synthesizing each components (nucleobases) of DNA? To actually synthesize pure DNA. I know it may sound weird, but if science is one thing, its the pursuit of knowledge, to understand the world around us and within us (microbology etc).

[@TheSands1984]

Why does the reaction make basic copper carbonate instead of "regular" copper carbonate (CuCO3)?

[@NileRed]

+Erika Sandstrom I forgot to say. Copper carbonate only really exists as the "basic form." The other form can exist, but it is rare and hard to make

[@maxmccormick3376]

The copper ion has a really high affinity for the hydroxide ion, so when you carry this reaction out in a solution of water, it strips water molecules apart to make hydroxide and forms Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2 instead of CuCO3

[@arved-6939]

NileRed I read on wikipedia that it has never been made. Do you have any sources on that?

[@pietrotettamanti7239]

You get a mix between Cu(OH)2 and CuCO3 as the solution contains lots of hydroxide ions.

[@Shaheen_Hassan]

@@maxmccormick3376 Mostly it is Cu2(OH)2CO3.

[@rediempti]

Colorfull FHD chemistry! Sweet :)

[@chemistrytable7347]

Hi. I obtained copper carbonate by hydrolyzing sodyum carbonate with copper elektrodes