Making Big Changes to My Skyrim Load Order on Xbox!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Hey everyone! Back on Skyrim and turns out there's been a lot of mods added since my last load order. I had to change things up to make some room; as much as I loved the last list. Let me know how close you've come to that limit! I'll be leaving more space in the future 😅 Update: The spreadsheet is now in the description

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Hi Matt, it's the guy you helped out Months ago to access the Still A Pain Creations Menu. Was Wondering if you could do a Follow up to this with Weapons, Armor, Spells, Combat, Enemies, and Quests. Again, TY for the Help.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@OleDirtyMacSanchez 🤣 I definitely want to check some of the newer mods out. Will depend on if there is enough interest. As far as spells go, I usually use Mysticism. But I'll be honest, I always gravitate to melee or bows even when I tell myself I should be using more spells, lol.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Same here regarding Melee. I'm a Norseman so like a Nord I tend not to use Magic. I barely use the Shouts either, pretty much I only us the Detect Life Shout. Guess it's also from playing From Software Games, just really used to going Unga Bunga on the Enemies.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Still annoys me that No Mod Authors have still tried making a Cross Bow that uses the Full Sized Vanilla Arrows instead of the Vanilla Bolts. Can't really be hard to do by this point, considering what MA's are capable of doing.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger It's like with FO 4, where is a good Flintlock or Musket Mod. Or a Mag Fed Lever Action Rifle Mod. I've seen the Gun Mods that came out Now to 6 Months back. Could be Done easily. Pipe Musket there's another good 1.

[@jerrelcarpio]

Ive been on a journey trying to find the most perfect Xbox load orders. You have saved me soooooooo much time. You have no idea. This order is amazing thank you soo so much

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@jerrelcarpio thank you! It’s fun to go back and see what kind of changes can be made. Crazy how many new mods I missed after not making mod videos on Skyrim for a few months 😅

[@Jasper_4850]

Love the load order looking forward to updates

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@Jasper_4850 🙏 Thanks! A lot of good suggestion in the comments. I’ll circle back soon.

[@sthorpestudio]

Great vid! I do love graphics pack I’ve been using it with Fantasia!! It eats so much of the 5Gigs though so will try this LO. Thanks

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@sthorpestudio thank you! It’s awesome how many different looks there are with all the different texture mods.

[@JokerJim23]

Hey 👋 Matt I was subbed yrs ago and now I'm subbed again. For Skyrim I don't really look anywhere else, your load orders are great and good to see the quality is still 💯% . 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍👏👏⚔️

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@JokerJim23 eyyyy Jim! I appreciate it. I’ll probably be sprinkling in some Skyrim content here and there.

[@oetie]

great work

[@isaachostetler9794]

Really awesome mod list. The only one I deleted was Movement & Behaviors 2.0 because it was causing issues for me at the start of the game and made it basically impossible to actually start. (Carriages kept glitching out, the Imperial soldier lady kept dying, sometimes Lokir wouldn't run and get shot by the arrows as is supposed to happen, and the Stormcloak Soldier would just stand there with no one to execute him.) Then I also downloaded "Alternate Start - Live Another Life" and put it at the very bottom of the load order because, quite honestly, I'd really rather not be stuck with the vanilla start to begin with tbh. I'd rather start in the house in Solitude.

[@isaachostetler9794]

Based on my experience with M&B 2.0 causing issues at the start of the game (for me) I think it *MIGHT* be conflicting with 1 or more of these other mods you have downloaded here. Just a heads up.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@isaachostetler9794 I don't see how that would cause those issues since the mod relates to the player only. But glad removing that worked out for ya 👍 Can't say I've had that experience.

[@isaachostetler9794]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger The carriages were still a bit of a glitchy mess even after deleting M&P, but I was able to get through the intro and play just fine. Got all the way to Dragonsreach with no real issues. Was just making a few test characters last night. This Fantasia + Skyland combination (+ the other "accessory" graphics mods you have here) is probably the best I've ever got the game looking. Much better than a full Skyland LO, or the "Graphics Pack" mods.

[@0022x]

Should we be expecting any load order update any time soon ? Been craving a lo update from you.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Possible by the end of the year! I’ve been meaning to get back and check out some of the suggestions in the comments. Got a few things in the works before that.

[@0022x]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger can’t wait!!!

[@LuckyDogwood]

Liked and subscribed for the simplicity! If I was to add debug menu and cheat menu where would those go?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

It all depends on the mod. I tend to stay away from those since they cause issues. Some say at the top, others need to be at the bottom. If the description doesn't mention it then a search online might point you in the right direction.

[@LuckyDogwood]

@Matt_the_TechRanger currently using binksy92's Ussep Ussep cc patch Realistic water two resources Jks solitude outskirts City trees aio City trees whiterun lanterns standalone Campfire complete camping system Campfire survival mode fix Qol and bug fix compilation Debug menu Sheogorath's cheat menu Nordic ui lite (updated) Pastel map markers Skyrim evolving value economy Skurims got talent improve as a bardUssep Ussep cc patch Realistic water two resources Jks solitude outskirts City trees aio City trees whiterun lanterns standalone Campfire complete camping system Campfire survival mode fix Qol and bug fix compilation Debug menu Sheogorath's cheat menu Nordic ui lite (updated) Pastel map markers Skyrim evolving value economy Skurims got talent improve as a bard Does seeing this help?

[@Headcase-es9dh]

I have this load order set up,only thing is that when leveling up and when discovering locations and navigating menus there’s no sounds for that?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@Headcase-es9dh I don’t believe so with this version of Nordic UI

[@iyanadonalson4262]

idk why i did everything right and now my game insta crashes every time i try to load it up

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@iyanadonalson4262 could be a lot of things 😂 Did you use mods before or is this a fresh save? Did you install new mods on an existing save without clearing reserved space?

[@RavenKing95]

Longtime user of Skyking's stuff here, as well as SMIM. Might seem like an odd question, but which SMIM mod were you using before and do you genuinely think Bits & Bobs does much of the same work? I've been looking to pare my LO down for a while and having already used Skyland Architecture/Fantasia back when I was giving Legacy of the Dragonborn a try, I wouldn't mind going back to that look if it's more cost effective.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I'm not sure if I ever grasped how much SMIM touched, no pun intended. I went to a lot of places with barrels... bits and bobs, ropes etc.. and it seems to do all of those things. Skyking would be the best to answer that but I would say "yes". Been a hot minute since I used the full SMIM mod; it was always a variation like SMIM essentials or Divine SMIM.

[@RavenKing95]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Well, I know a guy who knows THE guy, so I might just make inquiries. Taking out my SMIM means 300mb or so and if I switch to Skyland Architecture/Fantasia, I can get rid of LODs and free up another 400 odd.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@RavenKing95 Sounds like a plan! There's SMIM meshes and he kind of alludes that you can use this instead of SMIM. Haven't seen a stream from Skyking lately.

[@Scream2378]

Hi Matt, you don’t use cities overhaul mods like for example JK‘s? Because of the performance? 🤔

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I use Skyland Cities. I looked at JK's before but I think ultimately, I like vanilla cities with a fresh coat of paint better. Performance doesn't really factor in.

[@D3rpZer0]

Anyone else running into an issue with survival mode? Specifically where the food isn't decreasing hunger.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@D3rpZer0 you might have a mod that conflicts with Survival Mode. Anything that touches food would be my guess. I don’t use the Survival Creation so I’m not sure.

[@D3rpZer0]

​@@Matt_the_TechRangeroh gotcha. I just started a new playthrough with the updated spreadsheet and nothing else added on, so I wasn't sure if I was the only one running into this issue 😅

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@ weird. Can’t think of what would mess with it. Maybe something with a Creation Club patch that I didn’t have.

[@adamtimmins4866]

not sure whats happening lately ? get to a mod and it just freezes in download bar , screws up my series x i get an error after restarting and have to do a clean reset back to default

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I haven't run into that. Are you resetting your entire Xbox like it's brand new? I doubt that's necessary. A hard reset should clear the cache. That just sounds like a server issue.

[@adamtimmins4866]

I'll try again ,but yes very bizzare ,I'm thinking ssd drive may be on the way out ? I'll let you know 👍

[@adamtimmins4866]

Still the same 😢, froze downloading USSEP, Can I still put mods on the special edition without the anniversary upgrade?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@ yea they are the same game. The Anniversary upgrade just gives you the license for the CC stuff. Are you using an external SSD?

[@adamtimmins4866]

@Matt_the_TechRanger no my internal.

[@sneakyninja0129]

With movement and behaviour 2.0 is let me dodge but it freezes for a couple of second i configured it but it still doing it

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

You have to touch every option per the mod description.

[@sneakyninja0129]

​@@Matt_the_TechRangerdo I have to do that every time I load into the game as I messed with the settings of it but when I went of then went back on to the game it freeze my character

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@ shouldn’t have to. Are you talking about the freezing when you jump/dodge/roll?

[@sneakyninja0129]

​@@Matt_the_TechRanger it freezes in a middle of a dodge but it unfreezes after a few seconds

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@ oh yea that does seem to be that mod. There are two versions of it so if you use Xp32 then you’ll want to use that version. I use Shields on back so I use the regular M&B 2.0. I’d check that before you uninstall and reinstall.

[@ReadySetRandall]

I tried this load order and really like it. Can you tell me how to fix the unclothed npcs glitch? I loaded a previous save file and about half the npcs are not wearing clothes.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

That can happen if you load a save that maybe had clothing/armor mods active before. No fix unless you start a new game so it can load on a fresh save.

[@Dragonborn2268]

Ok i REALLY promise this is the last question i dont like monstrous beauty bundle i would like to replace it with different beauty mods but idk if it is stable

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

You can use what you want. That's just what I went with. But I couldn't possibly know everything that works perfectly with my list. Just be sure to read mod descriptions. Monstrous was an AiO option for beauty mods but there are others. Unless you have a bunch of other character mods then other beauty mods should be fine. Try it out by making a new game and if it doesn't work, go back and try again. The issue usually comes if you added something like that to an existing save then you might see weird things.

[@GrimyGamingYT]

Bits and bobs is really good

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@GrimyGamingYT indeed! I know it’s not new but it’s also great not having to look at all the SMIM and high poly project mods to try to find the best combo. That and you get a Skyking mod.

[@chasemorrow6312]

Using this load order with legacy of the Dragonborn and 9/10 time when I crouch my charecter ragdolls and goes limp like they’re dead. Any idea which mod would cause this

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@chasemorrow6312 maybe something with Movement and Behaviors 2.0 🤷‍♂️ Makes no sense that that would cause a crash with Legacy since it’s just a quest mod. I guess make sure you don’t have the XP32 version installed if you’re using this list mostly. Shields on Back (SWF) includes a skeleton.

[@isaachostetler9794]

​@Matt_the_TechRanger I think that one caused issues with me too, just not the same as this guys. If you read my other comments, it stopped me from even being able to properly start the game and get past the intro.

[@marinhorobles3580]

Have you thought about using RITON AIO with Fantasia?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

I did and I think I want to try it out soon if there is some interest. Winterhold looks soooo good.

[@marinhorobles3580]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger I'm pairing it at the moment Fantasia and it looks phenomenal

[@Dmentur]

Hey I was just wondering if you were on anniversary edition, because I noticed some of the mods were for special edition. Just wondering if I needed to install the anniversary edition

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@Dmentur for Shields on back (SWF), you have to have all of the AE content to use the AE version. I have everything but armors so I use SE.

[@josephmartinez779]

Do you know of any mods that allow you to rotate objects that you pick up? Im tired of objects always hanging upside down right when i pick them up makes it difficult to organize your house.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@josephmartinez779 not on console

[@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82]

@Matt_the_TechRanger Hi there dude, please help. I am unable to crouch with this mod list? Instead of crouching, it does a strange dash or dodge. Do you know what mod might cause this or how to crouch?? Thanks

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

It's Enhanced Movement and Behaviors. You have to configure it or you can freeze when rolling or not be able to crouch. Sneak Style 2 is what I use so I can crouch and roll/sidestep if I want. I go over it a bit more in my last load order video:kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWKvXqyHnqelgtUsi=taePv9TYkdHZZzZR Would always recommend reading mod descriptions 💯

[@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82]

​@@Matt_the_TechRangerthanks mate

[@Dragonborn2268]

I promise this is the last question imma install alternate start on this load order will it make it lag?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Most likely no. It doesn’t really add anything, just gives you options.

[@Hazzino]

Thanks this looks great!! I followed this load order, but every 5 minutes or so i get a strange fps drop where there is visual stuttering when i look around, this stops sometimes after going on menus/in and out of buildings... Any idea what's going on?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Unless I forget to switch my Xbox back to 60hz, I haven't encountered that. The game isn't meant for anything higher.

[@Capetonian1965]

Hi matt.please could you help me with my load order.ive been using your load order but I'm a bit confused with the section a mod should actually go in.modders don't always say where in description.the many categories on top of mod description is confusing.Example- cloaks and capes consistentcy. Goes in crafting, gameplay,mess, armour ect.Which one is correct to choose where it should go in the load order then.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

The first thing to understand is that there isn't a perfect load order. I think categories can be confusing since there are always caveats. Cloaks and Capes is like an armor/clothing mod. I made a couple of load order tip videos, as well as one for how I make Skyrim load orders, that may help. There are tons of load order tips on KZbin from channels like RTD and on the Skyrim Xbox Mods Reddit. But don't get fixated on categories. It's good to know and follow a general structure but there are over 30K mods on Xbox and it's hard to categorize all of them. Use your best judgment, and ask yourself what the mod does and whether it will conflict with others. Using both of those things, you'll be good. It's not as complicated as it seems.

[@flourandoni]

I mate ! Does the game run at 60 fps with the mods on series S ? Great content keep going 😊

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@flourandoni I don’t have a Series S so I can’t say for sure. The Series consoles run Skyrim at 60fps. Mileage can always vary with mods but I haven’t had issues with these in the Series X.

[@DICE666KING]

I can't press Y or lb in creation mod because of ur load out this is the second time this shit happened to me what should i do??????

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

There's nothing in my list that changes buttons 🤷‍♂ That happens if you change key bindings/controls in the game.

[@johnappleseed7790]

Is there any mods I need to download to make the this compatible with AE edition or am I all good?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@johnappleseed7790 if you have all of the AE armors then you should use the AE version of Shields on Back. Would recommend reading mod descriptions of anything you aren’t familiar with 👍

[@johnappleseed7790]

@@Matt_the_TechRangerthanks btw realistic waters two has a patch for CC content and saints and seducers which I think would be a good addition to the load order

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@johnappleseed7790 yea I saw that. I haven’t had any issues. There’s several versions of Realistic Water Two but I’ve always used that one and haven’t run into issues.

[@philliprobertson972]

Hey do I need alternate start for this load order?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@philliprobertson972 if you want to use it. I’ve never heard of that being a requirement.

[@grenadeotornado7894]

Hello! Love the load order, although I do have a question. Why do you have both Divergence" and "Realistic Armor Overhaul"? Im kinda a noob at modding, but wouldn't Divergence be pointless with RAO? Does it still do anything?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@grenadeotornado7894 Realistic Armor Overhaul changes the look of several armors as well as replaces the guard armors in the cities. It uses NordWar’s textures which are awesome. It doesn’t change everything though. Divergence is more of a touch up for all of the armors already in the game. It’s personal preference but I like having both at the moment.

[@grenadeotornado7894]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Got it, cool, good to know! Thanks!

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Of course! There's a lot of choices. I've used Old Kingdom in the past which is a great replacer. Video on the channel if interested. LoveKing also has an Omen bundle that replaces a lot of armors and clothing, I don't think the has guard replacers, though.

[@alexmckenzie3814]

Can anyone verify if this is stable on the Xbox One? Or if there are alterations to make it stable?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

All mods are made for Xbox One so there shouldn't be much, if any difference. As with anything, install what you would like to use and see how everything works. I don't recommend installing other people's list verbatim. I've used most of these when I had my Xbox One S if that helps 👍

[@alexmckenzie3814]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger Awesome! Thank you so much!

[@marconihimself]

My last skyrim load order had about 306 plugins at about 4.9gbs. It was borderline stable. The mod by tommas666 that diagnoses possible problems said I was within the "safe" range of esp's and esm's. Although I could be considered a veteran and had put a huge load order which remained functional for the most part, I had never sit to write it down, and at one point my mods got jumbled up in the load order and I lost my will to live. So Im doing just that now, cataloging every mod by file size first, then organizing a load order, and making a checklist of about 40 problematic aspects of the game I need to playtest before I commit to a new playthrough. Its probably about a year since I dropped Skyrim and I have no idea how far modding on xbox has progressed since then.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Always a good idea to keep track. I think that puts a lot of people off but when you have a record. Then it's easy if you need to wipe the Reserved space. Definitely a lot more mods on Xbox than a year ago. When I made this video, I was amazed at how many more there were in 6-7 months. I might still jump on from time to time to see what's new. Eyeing up Kinggath's Bard College expansion too.

[@marconihimself]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger the big issue with skyrim on consoles has been script bloat, which became more apparent after they lift the cap for downloads. When you add many mods with new mechanics the game starts to act up. In my case every few hours some npcs could stop showing some options for renting inns, bartering or giving radiant quests, and this was usually fixed by exiting the game and loading. On pc these issues are apparently solved with the script extender. Now, while Skyrim has probably the most advanced and complex mods of all beth games, its also one of the trickiest to diagnose. I get curious at whats being put out there but I also need to chill at some point and accept a load order as my definitive take on the game lol.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@marconihimself And this is why you are appreciated on this channel 🙏 I've always been more of a graphics/clothing/weapon mod type of guy so the most I've seen is naked NPCs on occasion but that kind of just ends up being funny, lol.

[@TheMonsterYak]

Why does it matter which order there in?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@TheMonsterYak Load order is a way to have a bunch of mods working together with minimal to no issues. Since mods are made by many different people, there can be quirks when it comes to working with other mods. Think of it like a sandwich. You can’t have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without putting the bread first or you’ll make a mess. There’s not necessarily one way to make a load order but a general structure is always smart. Mine isn’t perfect and it might not work well for others but I get to have my sandwich 👍

[@TheMonsterYak]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger thanks, love the sandwich example lol

[@Jonathan-xi9pl]

Great load order ! for smim like mod i use Abondance of cluttering instead of Bits and bobs - for the landscape i use fantasia and skyland for architecture just like u - for the moutains i use majestic moutain (dark) - For the tree it's diversity of tree Have u ever tried this mod together ? It's very beautifull all combined !

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

🙏 I’ve used Majestic before with Skyland but will probably rock with Fantasia since it includes that…no pun intended. Haven’t tried the tree mod before since I’ve been liking the one I use. Those I tend to have performance issues with and the AiO I use seems to work best in my game at the moment. I may experiment more at some point!

[@D3M0NG0G1]

Just wondering because i haven't played skyrim since july of 2023. Is this load order compatible with anniversary edition items? Because i remember back then you had to get mods that were compatible and that you also had to download them separately. Just curious is all.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@D3M0NG0G1 yea except for the SWF shield on back. That one, you need to have all anniversary edition content installed to use the AE version. If you only install some, use SE. I only have about half the AE things installed so that’s why I’m using that version.

[@johnappleseed7790]

@@D3M0NG0G1 there’s a patch for mysticism and realistic waters 2 if you want to play with AE

[@dovahghoul9568]

They really gotta up the GB limit for Skyrim and Fallout 4. It should be even easier now since Xbox Owns Bethesda and the games technically at tha but thatd just make sense ugh.

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@dovahghoul9568 not that simple. It would most likely brick people’s saves regardless if they have mods or not. The ‘Reserved Space’ is attached to the game whereas with Starfield, it’s been added so that’s why the limit is so high.

[@marconihimself]

Yeah, the cap is hardcoded in these old games. Besides, this could work for graphic mods, but skyrim on consoles has a "soft cap" for scripts building up simultaneously. Once youre past a certain threshold the game starts to fall apart as time goes by. My pipe dream would actually be consoles getting a sort of script extender just like on pc, not so much to enable more complex mods, but to manage the memory limitations that barely hold the game together.

[@dovahghoul9568]

Ahh damn well makes sense then thanks for the replies though!!!

[@Dragonborn2268]

Does this work on xbox one x

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

Mileage can vary but all mods are made/ported for Xbox One.

[@Dragonborn2268]

@Matt_the_TechRanger never mind I downloaded the load order and it works perfectly no crashes I have been play it for 5 hours no crash I love it Thxxxx

[@Dragonborn2268]

@@Matt_the_TechRanger where should I put the cheat room mod?

[@Matt_the_TechRanger]

@@Dragonborn2268 probably towards the bottom. Can vary per cheat mod. I don’t use them so I haven’t tried it. If there are instructions in the mod descriptions then I’d go for that.