Making broken beats / jungle / DNB beats (with Addictive Drums 2)

[@gepmrk]

People seem to credit the Amen break with being the beat that started it all and you sure can't get a better example as far as how the kit was recorded and this definitely makes it the go-to source for choppage. But that beat comes from JB's Cold Sweat groove which is the first time anyone used this 'broken' kind of feel. The beat to Cold Sweat was something that Pee Wee Ellis had in his head while he was on tour as part of JB's horn section. He sang it to Fred Wesley and Maceo Parker and they basically wrote Cold Sweat on the bus in late 1968. If you speed up Cold sweat to 160 bpm and beyond you've got DnB. As you have observed with DnB drum breaks in another video all these late 60s funk beats like Cold Sweat and The Funky Drummer rely on leaving the kick drum out on the third beat of the bar. It's not until the 70s that bands like Parliament/Funkadelic put the kick drum on beat 3. Your videos are the best Fanu.

[@fanusamurai]

Super good info here! Big thanks for writing this :) Respect! 🥁

[@rowegardner9673]

Can’t wait to see how your do processing in part 2! Would also love to see your approach for layering kick and snare samples over the top of real drums like this.

[@freshmint5130]

Never thought, that velocity inAD changes the sound so much. Thanks!

[@guttula1961]

As a drummer I’m very happy to see your perspective on grooves and sounds! Helpful and refreshing. Too bad this kind of grooves are way too fast to play (for me), but they’re definitely funky/souly if slowed down!

[@fanusamurai]

Yeah man! I can see it'd be too fast for a human, but I guess the charm of electronic music is its "electronicness" even in rhythm/tempo. And sure enough this type of stuff works even better around 130-140 BPM :)

[@bskbskbskbskbsk]

Good breakdown of how to build a beat. Thanks, I appreciate it. You and dgoHn are my favorite producers drum-wise. Much more dynamics and natural sounding drums. Like I also really appreciate the over the top modern stuff, but you just can't beat the dynamics of acoustic drums. And you both do it so well.

[@i2pjd6hRw5P]

Amazing, thank you for your tutorials. Just heard your old track Two Drummers for the first time today, absolutely blew my mind, what a ridiculously good track. This tutorial has inspired me to try to make something inspired by you, so thanks for that. Much love.

[@whackamole]

I second this after just discovering the track from this comment. Good shout sir. Wicked drummage.

[@ShaneNewville]

I love your enthusiasm about this stuff. Never enough drums! I use EZ Drummer 2 sometimes (cuz not rich enough for Superior Drummer) but wish I would have grabbed this instead. It was even suggested. I like how much more hard hitting and isolated the hits sounds in comparison.

[@kuri_kushay]

Thank's man!!! I've waited a long time for the drum n bass video

[@fanusamurai]

No probs :) More will come!

[@bigrick4905]

i think these tutorials are great. the way you explain is very clear

[@fanusamurai]

Thank you! I've tried to put emphasis on explaining things. I actually have a teacher's degree from the university, and also got Ableton Certified in 2016. I've always wanted to be a person that can explain things in a way that's understandable. There's a lot of videos on YT where I feel some ppl proceed a bit too fast or leave things unexplained, and it's hard to learn.

[@bigrick4905]

@@fanusamurai your doing a great job. thanks

[@jmcframe]

I love your face when you like something :D Great video!

[@fanusamurai]

If you like something, let it show! xP

[@MangoMang]

Awww yesss mate! Thanks so much Janne ♥ I literally just bought AD2 the other day!

[@fanusamurai]

Ssssuper :)

[@thebookkeeper3508]

Loved the bit where you were switching out the snares. I use this software with Roland V-drums - good times!

[@thebookkeeper3508]

The Funk kit is great for broken beats, too. To beef up the snare or kick, you can link your choice of sound for 'Flexi 1' to the snare/kick channel. Then both sounds trigger simultaneously

[@kaizen5415]

_sooo here we are_& dont get wrong_ive been to live d&b sets in the US_ love that drone reese bass_but never thought to make it myself_mostly step_ but now this 'broken' style @ lower tempo is coming full force_ its like psy d&b hard techno trance but not cheesy trance_an actual metaphysical trance_ so I gotta figure these beats out_Im jackin' samples & I got EZdrummer

[@Lordxfx]

Love it!

[@SteezyHop]

What 3 packs did you buy when you bought ad?

[@ThePyramid21]

what other drum plugins can u recommend ? for such operations. im struggling with bleeding frequencies that samples have and EQing them sometimes takes the whole vibe.. I like my mixes clean and wanna try something like addictive drums 2 . will EZdrummer do the same job ?

[@fanusamurai]

I havent tried EZ, but for dope organic drumsounds, Steinberg Backbone is DOPE

[@sutusmihaly]

..awesome..

[@mybiggrin]

What pack did you use for this? I’m trying to figure out which one to buy. Thanks

[@2ndmachine620]

Yes!

[@kaizen5415]

yup i like when the kick is moving and broken but the snare is hitting on the 2 as usual (unfamiliar x familiar balance) when the snare gets too loose_its a tension fill that never releases

[@gatty.]

That's epic! Been using this program for years, and didn't know how the sends worked with the two sliders like that! :O I have always just turned the FX off. Also the OH, Room and Bus processing :O :D

[@fanusamurai]

Glad to have gone through those then, hehe! I need to learn more, too, and make a new video :)

[@palmerking8180]

Do you have a video on the shortcuts you are using to navigate and manipulate midi information within the piano roll? Your work-flow looks so efficient and I'm not familiar with the shortcuts you seem to be using!

[@fanusamurai]

Hmm, no video, but I do have an inexpensive Ableton Live Basics masterclass on my webshop (fanumusic.com/shop) if you're interested in the basics :)

[@kaizen5415]

_honestly the thing about this genre that always vexed me its a drum fill_looped throughtout an entire song_ honestly it can be a headache at higher tempos west tend to chill tempo down_and east speed 'em up hardcore

[@fanusamurai]

Yeah gotta have some variation…can’t stand the forever looping drums most of the time

[@ogenic]

Watching this again and wondering if there was ever a part 2?

[@fanusamurai]

Yessir! In January this year, I posted it on my Patreon. Came out pretty badass. So you can check the video class there :-)

[@fanusamurai]

Direct link here! www.patreon.com/posts/lets-do-drums-2-96355898

[@fanusamurai]

In the new video I tried covering every necessary feature in that plugin and made a pretty nice break too…I think there’s a taster somewhere in the depths of my FB or Twitter.

[@ogenic]

@@fanusamurai Thanks Jan, just watching it now

[@sambillington2605]

Thank you for this awesome as always - Can I ask what level of (global) velocity do you use when using Sampler in Ableton?

[@fanusamurai]

I usually just have my midi notes at full velocity if that's what you mean…and then just adjust the samples so their level is ok. Not sure if I got the Q right :) I do a bit of velocity variation with instruments where it matters like with AD2.

[@sambillington2605]

@@fanusamurai Thanks man appreciate the answer - Might hit you up for some tuition when I get some funds. Thanks!

[@fanusamurai]

@@sambillington2605 OK Sam! I'll be here when needed.

[@sutusmihaly]

..can I ask you a question..if I would by addictive drums for this kind of music, wich starter pack would you recomend? I mean, wich drumsets sounds the best to start with? would really appreciate your advice in this..cheers 🖤

[@fanusamurai]

I'd say the genre/style you want to create should largely dictate what you want: e.g., I make jungle and hip hop, so I want to go for the more organic/soul/funk kits (and haven't got any rock kits).

[@sutusmihaly]

@@fanusamurai ..exactly my direction..I am into breaks and jungle too..and love the old-style funky breaks..as I only can choose three in the starter, there are this options I kept an eye on: black oyster, funk, vintage dry, fairfax, soul/ RnB and modern jazz..but I cant decide wich one to go for..the funk and the vintage dry should be on the list?! should I go for the black oyster or the vintage dry as the third one? I know its personal preference..and that you can update later on, but I would really appreciate your opinion on the third kit to choose :-)

[@fanusamurai]

@@sutusmihaly Sorry for slow reply: I have Soul & RNB, Vintage Dry, and and Funk kits myself.

[@apoplexiamusic]

Every DNB producer before 2023: the kick and snare should NEVER play at the same time, that's just house!!!! Every DNB producer in 2023: Hey! let's put a 4 to the floor part in this track....hell why not the WHOLE track!!!!! People who listened to DNB before 2023: sad Using drum samplers to make breaks is SO MUCH FUN! I've used and loved Addictive Drums for a long time and i have most of the other big ones, like Superior Drummer (only V2 though), Steven Slate Drums 5, and the most recent metal ones, like GGD and Drumforge. What i don't understand is that the latter two brands' plugins use WAY more CPU and the sample variations don't sound nearly as natural, except for GGD Invasion which can be awesome for breaks but brutal to your CPU, even on an M1 Mac!

[@fanusamurai]

Haha yeah, DNB rhythms aren't (as funky as/) what they used to be :D :/

[@kaizen5415]

_normally such an exclusive uk genre still wouldnt pop in the west but i think there's sooo many artists trying to sound same and climb up that when something extreme in tempo & structure comes_it cuts thru uk drill went crazy in brooklyn_now uk d&b startin' to go off_ but i still cant see girls gettin' it @ 170 bpm_gotta go lower for residency

[@andreirobert18]

Can you leave a download link with a preset of these drums? I came here for a tutorial on how to create them... I can pay

[@andreirobert18]

Did you upload them on your Patreon? I'm willing to pay for these

[@fanusamurai]

@@andreirobert18 Do you mean a preset for Addictive Drums 2?

[@andreirobert18]

@@fanusamurai a preset for the amen drums that you processed into AD2. I do own AD2 😂

[@fanusamurai]

@@andreirobert18 Sorry, I think you lost me there. "Amen" "into" AD2? I don't think you can feed your own drums into AD2. It's an instrument that comes with its own sounds. Do you mean you'd want the drumsounds that I'm using here as audio?

[@andreirobert18]

@@fanusamurai yep. I want them :D

[@kaizen5415]

_love the broken beat break down for real_ _my dad been playing a lot of retro d&b trip hop sounds lately_it was a sign

[@gepmrk]

Er... copyright issues? wtf?

[@fanusamurai]

A lot of copyrighted material is in the database these days and gets recognized by the system. Chances are if you played a copyrighted drumloop for a few minutes in your video, it'd get flagged for playing copyrighted material, and you'd lose the monetisation at least. At some point this got crazy on Soundcloud, too, and ppl's accounts started getting strikes because of (often already existing) DJ mixes etc. So I've learned to be careful.

[@dylvasey]

Er ..... DnB & Jungle did not come from funk. It came from the rave scene, and especially hardcore.

[@fanusamurai]

And what is that based on? Hiphop, funk, dub.

[@fanusamurai]

Basically all breakbeat music has its roots in black music…you can't deny that.