Making Copper & Aluminium Bars to sell on eBay

[@phoenixsemorata9476]

I love videos of people pouring molten metal. It's so satisfying I think.

[@TehHijack]

You could sell them for more than scrap if you pour them into aluminium blocks like are doing now and machine them into square blocks, you could also use your bars to cast things that you could sell with a markup.

[@weizhuu]

hey Ben! when you are pouring the aluminium in the mold i see that you trow all the melted aluminium in there..... leave a little bit in the big crucible because it smelts much easier and faster. saves valuble money and time! greets ritch!!!!

[@moosescrapper5928]

How well do the aluminum bars do on ebay for ya?

[@Cyberthuug]

pour them in small cans so you can sell round stock. guys with metal lathes can use round stock for making projects. then $10 to $15 is perfect. you can even use different size metal pipes for a variety of sizes and lengths.

[@wizkid861]

Need to talk further more after reading your comment ended up with a nice idea. P.S, even subscribed

[@Cyberthuug]

My comment?

[@Cyberthuug]

I've been making my round stock in galvanized pipes, I burn the galvanized coating off or use uncoated when I can. Weld 2 or 3 tabs to pipe so I can use a 8 ton lever action jack to push stock out of pipe. I thread a cap on end to seal then pour. Just cut off the ends to square and you can use any diameter pipe cut to any length as long as you have a way to push it out. Be very careful not to get air bubbles that will explode when cooling. If you use coffee or soup cans they can be stripped off if you have ripples in cans.

[@trejaymusic]

Watching you pour the ingots makes me hungry EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[@bantalee2002]

for myself,i was toying with the idea of purchasing 1/2 oz and 1 oz trade unit molds. like coinage except they would have its weight stamped on the coin.

[@flower2289]

Ben have you considered filling a flat rate shipping box with your ingots? Each sale would be higher value for you and the customer would pay a lot less percent wise for shipping. I do that quite often on Ebay. Wayne

[@rhetoricalbro4106]

i really wanna do this stuff so bad cause it looks fun. but it sucks not having the equipment.

[@xdebugxDotNet]

awesome bars! cant wait to see the videos of your gold and silver bars when you get all your e-scrap refined!

[@carpentryfirst3048]

I wish you the best of luck. I think they look amazing. Everything sells on ebay, so we shall see

[@iansmith101]

You can buy 3 sided 1kg moulds with the open end at a side face instead, makes nicer bars and is more standard size for mass selling... just a thought to make life slightly easier :)

[@truthbtold2279]

Where?

[@justanpayne8748]

I would buy some copper and aluminum bars there cool

[@tikfsweden]

Amazing video - it's interesting to hear your thoughts about this subject of metal bars.

[@smokeyspock]

I also melt aluminium down and make some stuff out of it too at the moment i have a aluminium skull well half of one just the way it turned out snd a aluminium star which both i still have to clean up but you can always make neat stuff out of it and sell it for a bit and i do bars also which wouldnt sell has high though and i do have some cooper stuff and oh i do have a huge star trek aluminium badge thing which has a slight indent in the middle just the way the aluminum goes because its a soft metal but i will use it has a paperweight

[@mikehalvorsen4788]

I like the fact that your furnace is electrical. If you're going to melt on a consistent basis I'm thinking of getting one and hooking it up to solar panels to take out my overhead. What do you think? Also I like the idea of melting because it's easy for storage. You can hold on to them until the price is right at the scrap yard. And the biggest reason is there's no discrepancy on price when you bring them in. They can always drill a hole and look at a sample so they know it's not fake. Love your video. 👍😎🇨🇦

[@flower2289]

I'm assuming Australia's Postal Service has a variety of flat rate boxes like the US Postal Service. Wayne.

[@citizenavatar]

you can buy degassser and flux for aluminium.. for a smoother finish.

[@dinofrancesco5441]

the guy that said make rods not blocks for your ally is good advice ive been scrapin in aus since the 80s and have been asked on the street and at the yards for ally rods guys luv turning ally and have to pay big think motor sports engine parts . luv your vids mate

[@scottlay2970]

You can always get you a digital pyrometer will help with temperature readings so you could hold youre copper at a set temp for ten min then pour

[@robertw9677]

Ok thanks for this exposure to making bars i hear about machine made, cast, pressed and poured all confusing to me i see this video is poured which i see the beauty of slacker has me sold on poured silver but the scottsdale 20oz bars are beautiful and they say its cast i assume is poured in a mold not sure as new to all this thanks man for your time and education

[@MoondyneJoe]

You Omit to mention how much electricity you use to pour a Bar of either Aluminum or copper Have you ever put a Killowatt meter or the like on the circuit to check out how viable changing its form to a bar is? then deducting that cost from the sale price? If you added your petrol vehicle maintenance onto it to go and find the scrap and getting rid of all the waist, your time you are probably running at a considerable loss Unless you own a Metal scrap yard that it and have a alternative energy supply at hand ? Running creek ?

[@MoondyneJoe]

Where? no it wouldn't be pence to run do your own calculations I am no mathematician and in this case even blind Freddy could see that to bring a electric furnace from cold to approx 1200f melting Aluminum or copper to a flowing melting point it would have to chew into your profits then if you left it on and refilled it for another pour and did this for say an hour it would have to cost money Then as aluminum for example is varied in quality depending what you use for your raw material IE would say Car alternators be a better quality Bar than the same size in Used cool drink cans ? or even heat sinks and so on that surely has to effect the prices I have had a 1 kw grid tied solar system working for over 6 years also another nearly 1100w stand alone hybrid system ( wind and solar) working for same time you become very very Conscious of energy use over that time I doubt I could heat up a furnace for any time without being also on the grid power as it would flatten my battery bank in doing so I am on 240v herein Australia but I would think a furnace would have to use approx 3 to 5 kw of power an hour if not more a kitchen kettle uses 2400w albeit to get up to boiling temps for water for only a short time surely 1200f temps would have to take 20 minutes? ish ? then to bring the metal to pour temps I am just trying folks to bring to your attention be careful on your losses I'm 57 years old and have d Moved out of home 38ish years ago you tend to have to keep in mind all these extra costs when you have to pay the bills even using gas to fire a furnace would have to be added into your costs I wpould think some sort of Modified Rocket stove or burning Waste oil in a furnace would be the best way to go esp if you have a source of free wood or used oil then you would have to go and get it it all adds up and eats into your profits I love the idea and would love to try myself and will one day esp if I can do so and use surplus heat from say a blacksmith forge Tony

[@eWasteBen]

It's a 1.5kw appliance, perhaps look up what a 1.5kw appliance uses per hour, about 35c per hour

[@MoondyneJoe]

I apologize Ben didn't mean to sound like a troll I was more concerned with amount of effort you put in to collect, sort, strip , melt and then hope to sell it all eats into your profits, often people don't take into account the other costs for the self employed and end up wondering why they arent getting ahead I love the idea of making something useful out of recyclable items But we have to keep the realities in mind as well Tony

[@MoondyneJoe]

SonicScooter Thanks for commenting It is fun to do such I have just after many years of wanting to started my silver Stash ( Coins and Bars ) and am just as excited by that possibility, I could see it becoming VERY addictive ! I do know in America that wages are very Low per hourly rate ( But that is a Pro Rata Economy thing to each country anyway) and was concerned that in many cases Wisdom cant be transposed to young heads and some get caught up in the thrill of the chase and it isnt until the bills roll in that they get a huge unwanted surprise at what goes out as well I Was watching some channel the other day about one bloke scrapping and melting a heap of car alternators looks like a good Aluminum and copper source ( for quality Aluminum )

[@lunardust201]

Moondyne .Joe sent as I was thinking. Copper is only under $3/lb, not worth much

[@zjork]

can't find you on Ebay man D: do you have a link to your store page on there?

[@jacobgodinez4926]

Did you get what you wanted and how long did it take to sell?

[@robertely6720]

add a link to your ebay store so we can buy these

[@dimitrisAU]

what brand is the machine?? and where can i find it??? thank you!!!

[@jettrack1]

eWaste Ben Hello Thanks for such a great video. I don't normally scrap but my boss gave me 500 pounds of copper wire should I scrap it or melt it down and sell?

[@jettrack1]

I would appreciate any ones advice. I'm new to this.

[@eWasteBen]

you would sell it as is, there's no added value melting if your just going to sell to a scrap yard

[@jettrack1]

eWaste Ben well I would sell it else wear if I did melt I just don't know wear. It's bright bare copper number 1 and I didn't know if I would be better off just selling it to the scrap yard as is.

[@jettrack1]

Thanks for respond I appreciate all the help I can get.

[@jettrack1]

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[@TechGorilla1987]

G'Day, mate! Just tucking in for a squizz at your latest production! I would love to have one of those bars to fondle, but shipping to Pennsylvania US would probably not make it practical.

[@ag10876]

How about drilling your aluminum bars and filling with gold. You could really stretch your aluminum supply! Great vid thanks.

[@housebat8797]

lmao

[@gotham4434]

You might be on to something there

[@nativee-waste3493]

do you got punch letters put your KZbin channel on it and the date it was poured I'd def buy a couple

[@iflipsites1632]

Sounds like a logo metal stamp in the making, eWaste Ben. ;)

[@SimParadox]

Hey Ben, speaking of your poured bars... You haven't let us know what what your silver bar ended up as(silver%).

[@Sharptooth100]

How about zinc and tin ingots?

[@casanovafrankenstein33andz78]

Lovely Bars! Thank you for all of the advice and demonstrations - truly, you are a great help.

[@AkashKhan-gg5hy]

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[@Hellbent7069]

What is your seller name on ebay mate? I would like to buy some of your copper bars, only if you autograph them for me.

[@badsantaclaus4522]

Nice bars Need to put your logo on them sell quicker on e-bay Great video

[@Yotta_Flops]

Whats your link to your ebay page?

[@BajanAlan]

Could u engrave your logo into the mold?

[@wizkid861]

If poured in steel pipes would they slide right out after hardening up to sell to people who use a metal lathe like Sean Hirsch commented?

[@noevilea624]

No and it`s also the wrong grade to be lathed.

[@Zaltor7]

Ben what size if that mold?

[@JaegerTheBaker]

As an american I would like to thank you for using pounds and ounces conversion/ estimates.

[@seanfoltz7645]

Checked aluminum prices - UBC (Aluminum Cans) $0.40 per pound eBay 1 Lb Aluminum Ingots for casting $2.25 So more like 5-6 times the value...assuming you can find anyone willing to buy said bars. The thing to remember is time, effort and cost to turn scrap into ingots for resale - more often than not the value simply isn't there. Instead, you should only be turning scrap into ingots if you intend to use that yourself for some project as the profit margin is so relatively small that it will take quite some time to simply break even on the cost of your initial investment. Let's also not forget time as well - you've got a thousand aluminum cans that you turn into 25 pounds of ingots so you sell them for $56.25. That'll take about six hours and you'll kill a whole tank of gas, $15 for a refill in my area, so $41.25 divided by 6 hours works out to $6.88/hour - average starting pay for McDonalds in the US is $9.48/hour.

[@Sniper.925]

Sean Foltz All depends I also make them But I do it at my job so I’m still getting paid for working at the same time I am making my bars I work in buildings so the plumber and the electrician give me the brass in the copper for free After I sell them to the scrap yard for a lot of money I turn around and use the money to buy silver So basically I do it at my job during my working hours And I get the material for free

[@Detroitdiesel285]

6.88 to sit at home doing something other than Netflix and Hulu

[@BlazRa]

Not super ways to make a furnace this guy did waste a lot of money buying one and you can use wood you don't have to use propane that's retarded And obviously this is something you would do in the afternoon after you're done with work it's always good to have more than one source of income

[@BlazRa]

@@Detroitdiesel285 exactly

[@mattgour5874]

Also the ebay 10% and shipping .... im tempted but I don't know if it's worth it

[@rethinkscience8454]

Aluminium comes in different standard or alloys by mixing them all up the value drops to low quality aluminium scrap.

[@OsiDio]

100% this. As with normal steel and stainless steel.

[@hiseminencetheholymacdiarmada]

I understand that if you preheat the mold, that you don't get the bubbles in the bottom of your ingot... Have you ever tried this?

[@wizkid861]

Sure about that are just here say?

[@hiseminencetheholymacdiarmada]

I don't cast molds myself, not yet anyway, but I have read that preheating them ensures that there is absolutely no moisture and thus no bubbling. I have also read that this depends on the type of mold being used. Preheating also ensures that the molten metal sets more evenly. This is just what I have read in forums and blogs, like I said, I have no first hand experience yet.

[@masterofnone11]

One big problem is people can scam you by adding lead or something else to the inside of the bars.

[@nathanhill6042]

Ya not really that requires way more work than the bar would be worth as pure copper anyway plus it would be super hard to hide a metal that melts at 500 degrees inside of 1800 degree+ liquid copper

[@Kaaskop84]

I like the idea! But I would sell them to get back the expenses of the furnace, crucibles and molds. The rest will be used in projects I guess 😁👍👍👍

[@Professional_Youtube_Commenter]

The real money being made is on youtube ads.

[@tom-ivanolsen2711]

Hei 😊 Got my smelter yesterday, and smeltet my first copper bar 😁 Have about 170 kg copper to smelt 😁 Should i be afraid for copper fumes? Sorry for my por english, i’m from norway 😂

[@eWasteBen]

yes, try not to breath it when it smokes up every time you add copper

[@massimilianoilardi3571]

Ciao tu ai messo copper e allumium che per centuale

[@mxgryan]

Are there any plug and play electric furnaces that you would recommend for aluminum melting?

[@eWasteBen]

There's a couple in the link in the description

[@slicksilver9441]

I know people give you hell sometimes but I think your vids are cool and educational....I mean, why not turn a profit from something you otherwise throw in the garbage...

[@SilverGator]

Great video, I subbed. Always looking for ways to turn my scrap into something more manageable.

[@igor4963]

onde comprar uma mini forja dessa

[@robertponce2559]

Can I buy one

[@johndowe7003]

where do you get the furnace?

[@vincenttelfer4206]

another cool video. how about a video of a pre weigh of wire, I agree with you to hold on to your copper, maybe a solution? hold on to the copper and don't melt it but hammer it into cubes, compress it, then if anyone wanted to buy it they'll have the chance to inspect it. it'll take up more space, maybe not too much.

[@georginahepi372]

weas the update bro?

[@VerifyVeracity]

We do it for the fun, not so much for the money, but I would like to cast something that could be useful someday. Thanks for the video.

[@smarky4461]

wtf is that in the corner??? at 13:26

[@bantalee2002]

looks like scrap aluminum.

[@eWasteBen]

heatsinks from servers, tinned coated copper.

[@BrandonFrancey]

It would be nice if in your videos when you are talking about your equipment if you could mention some specs. What is the size or volume or what ever they use to describe your crucible or your molds. Basically if someone watches some of your videos and thinks to them selves "I want to do what he's doing. I'm going on Ebay to search for some equipment." When you search for stuff, there is no reference or dimensions. If you mention that your crucible is rated a size 5 cocks or what ever unit they use, people can say, that is exactly what I want or I want something bigger than that so I know to search for more than 5 cocks.

[@eWasteBen]

It's a 3kg crucible

[@TheRandomGamer-r3f]

tbh i just bouhgt a 20 dollar crucible and a blow tourch and started melting

[@johnwelsh6656]

Why is my copper turning into a glass like material instead of a bar? What am I doing wrong?

[@aintnolovedee9730]

John Welsh make sure your pennies are from 1880- or less

[@vale7716]

DeeBagChasin Are you meaning penis? :D

[@jgilly3362]

@@vale7716 you immature person

[@vale7716]

No i aint

[@Avalanche2]

@@aintnolovedee9730 1880 or less? What?

[@robertw9677]

What is the buyers goal with these vs silver or gold maybe same silver is mostly industrial i dont know if copper moves with them ?

[@eWasteBen]

copper moves differently to gold, it's probably affordability, people like big stacks 1lb copper is a few bucks, 1lb gold is 20k

[@joanbaron540]

If you plan to sell on the open market, use the commodity's price index. You'll get better returns and you'll be selling at fair market value. Always check each day. -Advid Investor- Good luck to you. I wish you the best.👍😁

[@Avalanche2]

What are your thoughts on the electric smelter? Is it expensive to run?

[@Jspilman27]

Avalanche2 my crucible asked for less than 10 melts. So I made one from steel. Worked great but after about week solid of meting brass and copper I burnt the coils out so I just stick with my waste oil foundry 700cdn out the window. And like he said you can’t fit much in them. I can pour 25 pound bars in my outside foundry

[@fortunateson6070]

You should link your ebay and sales stuff in the video info so we can go buy some stuff, you're advertising to thousands of people.

[@phillipfeltz7738]

I was thinking the same. I would like to track them and see how they sell.

[@michaell4527]

I wanna make these copper bars but Its too expensive for a forge.

[@wesley100011]

No it's not you can make a one for free/ cheep thinking of making a KZbin channel

[@lukesylvester2022]

@@wesley100011 please make the channel

[@bootsowen]

Remember when you could get into that garage Ben!

[@arwen999]

Can you provide a link to your ebay store?

[@NucCorp]

Can you link your equipment

[@PrinceMGolds]

hello, i want to adopt and learn this hobby. please tell what do i need to buy from your amazon link and what videos i need to watch. i want to do this in my apartment if possible. my electricity is free.

[@eWasteBen]

You would need some serious ventilation, when adding copper it will smoke up a lot, toxic to breath it. For a start the 3kg electric furnace first on my list is a good start, you will need a good supply of crucibles, melting copper eats them up quick

[@Tommo020788]

Electricity is not ever free... If u think u got "free electricity" because electricity use is included in your rent, then you will probably be evicted when the owners get the bill and realise your an asshole who took advantage of their trust. But if you somehow have free electricity through renewable energy you are making yourself, then ignore the previous stuff.

[@BlazRa]

The thing to do would be figure out how to make a frying pan shaped mold copper pans are fantastic for cooking

[@rickengle7208]

Until you get copper poisoning by cooking acidic foods in untreated copper

[@pavlovssheep5548]

it would be better adding 10% pewter to the copper and producing bronze

[@TreasureByMeasure]

That's great! Looks cool

[@Kamal_AL-Hinai]

Which size is this mold?

[@WessCastings]

I believe it is this one: www.amazon.com/Graphite-Melting-Casting-Silver-Nonferrous/dp/B07LDQH228/ref=sxin_3_ac_m_pm?ac_md=2-1-QWJvdmUgJDIw-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=graphite+ingot+mold&keywords=graphite+ingot+mold&pd_rd_i=B07LDQH228&pd_rd_r=4cdecb98-697c-4644-9b5a-85b274a96c81&pd_rd_w=FUJhq&pd_rd_wg=iw5Y4&pf_rd_p=7d20a4a8-392e-4493-b921-9340b9e850ce&pf_rd_r=38ENSACC8VGT5894YH8Y&psc=1&qid=1581978927&sr=1-2-3f74d940-526b-436f-a83d-f486577edf4d

[@michelforcier7062]

Le nom de la compagnie de ton brûleur électrique au lieu du propane

[@86Corvus]

Yea but how much is a liter of waste oil to burn?

[@michaelmorgan2880]

Alot of shops will give you waste oil, in the states anyway... They no longer pay for waste oil turn in

[@Faoijhfr4rsgioi]

How much you can earn from melting gold euro coins

[@juanreed6929]

What is make and model of furnace and how much?

[@fishmut]

They are on ebay.

[@josephkidd3385]

how much for one of each

[@eWasteBen]

at the moment i'm using them as an experiment to see if they sell on ebay

[@hiteck007]

How many cans does it take to make a brick like that?? and that is a pretty good furnace. Do you find you need to use different Crucibles fir different metals to keep out contamination??

[@fishmut]

i would go by weight , if all your cans weigh 1 pound then thats about what you will get minus the waste you take off the top which wouldn't be much if any .

[@majorvictory3231]

hypothetically speaking, how much e-waste do you have to acquire in order to make a gold ingot at that size

[@eWasteBen]

$40k worth of gold? about 6 pc's, 8 monitors, 16 vacuum cleaners and 7 pop up toasters should do it.

[@michael4762]

You could learn engraving on your custom made made bars and add 25 quid to the price, great birthday and christmas presents. Go man, gooooo.

[@josephchawalczak9161]

What is the biggest size you melt copper in this video?

[@shaneyork300]

Looks like a LOT of fun!!! ♲+🔥=💰

[@supersneakusa4492]

get a custom mold made for some kind of cool art work piece ....

[@kamarankamaran7577]

Hi.mr this made in Have a sale this smelter

[@mikehalvorsen4788]

Hey friend. You know your aluminium. Look at plastic mold factories. Like making weather stripping. They use aluminium for a mold to make them. Call them up. You should be able to sell them at a good profit. 😎👍🇨🇦

[@thomasmcdougall8059]

Is there much earn in this?

[@cameraman1234567890]

What’s unfortunate is that this isn’t very profitable if at all. Fun though, Im sure

[@fragnicht1734]

VERY FUN!

[@stevethompson5253]

Hey Ben, is that a 4kg electric furnace? Also what's the larger mould size mate? Your vid are my fav!

[@oldgoat8132]

And did them sold well?

[@eWasteBen]

yeah about 6x copper value

[@oldgoat8132]

eWaste Ben that's incredible, I gonna try doing that too.

[@josephmacias2876]

eWaste Ben where can I buy one copper bar that you made

[@ralphh4131]

what an interesting furnace. ive never seen one like that

[@fishmut]

look on ebay.

[@happymcdoddle7679]

I'm starting to stack water, will be huge returns in the future

[@fishmut]

yeah i piss mine out , to hard to carry .

[@airmanfpv964]

water is renewable

[@robertw9677]

Very cool i love poured silver likely not the profit

[@MundusTransit]

Use the copper to cement out pure silver when purifying silver. use the silver to inquart and purify gold. use the copper to cement out the leftover precious metal waste in a stock pot. copper > silver > gold and back again.

[@RedsnowHD]

what sizes is your graphit ingot mold for the 1kg bars?

[@eWasteBen]

125x80x40 mm Outer size: 4.92 x 3.15 x 1.57 inch Inner size: 4.13 x 2.37 x 1.18 inch (5.75 fl oz) - Capacity: 3.25 Kg gold / 1.7 Kg silver, 20 bucks on ebay

[@RedsnowHD]

eWaste Ben thanks man it was hard to find, im trying to pour the same bars like you realy love the look

[@roderick2105]

Can this machine be used for melting gold ?

[@jacksonloescher3166]

yes copper melts at a higher temp than gold so if it ca melt copper it can melt gold

[@tombenes4461]

I think that those bars r worth more they r pure

[@bradyschwartz6303]

Is that a 1kg mold

[@eWasteBen]

no much bigger, about 4kg gold mold

[@erikbreaman9124]

from what I've seen purifying gold and silver from volume barrels of PCBs and pins then making ingots from a homemade furnace using a manufactured crucible is the best money maker.. Put them on ebay and it'a tens of dollars per gram.. cool thing is it's simple math. You do a batch and you have your profitable logistics laid out.. Try to source volume material deals and even try to get plant grade equipment..

[@joestreet7036]

Most places will not buy bars or hand poured ingots because it's to East to add something to them

[@squirmsshed5343]

a kilo over here is worth about £4.00 a kilo