Making Hexamine Dinitrate, a Precursor To RDX

[@БорисМухорин]

Super

[@KrashFries]

might be interesting to check out the hexamine diperchlorate for its better oxygen balance

[@SavinjaLabs]

I checked it out and it is definitely interesting and we could make it, but it is almost the same as the HDN. But still thanks for the recommendation!

[@SillySandwich1]

Thanks for the tutorial bro, this will be… useful

[@SavinjaLabs]

Yeah no problem I don't doubt it'll be useful...

[@KatMe-hr8pm]

Welcome to watch lists, everyone

[@SavinjaLabs]

Haha, yes I hope that we aren't on it... But this compound is pretty innocent itself. But it is a precursor to some other things... 😀

[@BothoHohbaum]

I'm already listed, I guess... at least it keeps me from doing stupid things... 😊

[@TestHandlePleaseIgnore]

I take hexamine as a medication to prevent UTIs so I was already on the list 🤣

[@edoardoberardocco]

if you close your eyes it feel like watching ChemicalForce

[@SavinjaLabs]

Oh really? Chemical Force is one of my favourite chemistry youtubers, because he always does the most unique and interesting reactions! That is so nice!😄

[@edoardoberardocco]

@@SavinjaLabs yeah for the music

[@isaacmcginn7923]

Nice video!

[@SavinjaLabs]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!

[@PlayFullChemist]

Oh yes, my friend, I also want to ask whether it is possible to make RDX using 68% Nitric Acid?

[@SavinjaLabs]

I don't think so because it would form the hexamine nitrate just like in the video.

[@PlayFullChemist]

But Do You Really Not Know About Making RDX using 68% nitric acid?

[@SavinjaLabs]

@@PlayFullChemist No it sadly doesn't work, it would just form hexamine nitrate, which would upon heating in the acidic solution start to hydrolise to formaldehyde and ammonia. I think that the RDX can just be made with the fuming acid.

[@PlayFullChemist]

​@@SavinjaLabsOke, Thank You Bro!

[@mikegLXIVMM]

Great for HMTD too!

[@SavinjaLabs]

Yes, you're right but HMTD apart from being very powerful is also extremely sensitive, so I don't think we are going to synthesize it any time soon, but maybe some time in the future. It's a very interesting molecule after all!

[@isaacmcginn7923]

Absolutely! peroxide explosives are genuinely iniquitous @@SavinjaLabs

[@qwerty7877]

I tried to make HDN a few minute ago but i didnt cool the hexamine solution before poring nitric acid into it and theres no percipitation of hdn formed,if i put the solution in ice water container can it still make HDN?

[@SavinjaLabs]

Yes that's the problem! If the hexamine solution isn't cooled enough, hardly any precipitate or even like in your case, nothing will happen. I also had this problem the first time I did this synthesis and I didn't cool the hexamine solution before i added the nitric acid. Nothing happened. But when I did it another time, I cooled the solution and the crystals quickly precipitated out. But i don't know if they would precipitate if you cooled the already mixed hexamine and nitric acid. Try it and maybe it works! 😃

[@qwerty7877]

@@SavinjaLabs how cold it should be? as cold as a freezer?

[@SavinjaLabs]

@@qwerty7877 No just like below 10 degrees Celsius. Ice water bath should be fine, I mean it worked for me so...

[@qwerty7877]

@@SavinjaLabs thx for the tips,btw can you make RDX by direct nitrolysis of hexamine with rfna?

[@SavinjaLabs]

@@qwerty7877 Yes you can but it is safer and easier to do it this way (using HDN). If you di it directly, the HDN will form as an intermediate anyways. But again it is generally better, safer and easier to do it this way.

[@qwerty7877]

I tried to make HDN today but unfortunately i failed,i have no idea why.

[@SavinjaLabs]

Maybe because you didn't cool it enough?

[@qwerty7877]

@@SavinjaLabs i cool it down to about 5°c Oh anyway i used a fuel tablet from military surplus is there a possibility of contamination that caused it to fail?

[@snoowbrigade]

C4 gang

[@SavinjaLabs]

Yes it can be made into RDX which is the primary component in C4.