MAKING MUSIC with A.I. (Text to Music w/ Suno.ai) (1/3)

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This is a 3 part series on different AI tools I've been using in my music lately that I feel like are positive ways to expand your own self expression.
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[@kennymonsters]

I use it to enhance collaboration. After 20 years of working with bands and solo artists, I’m done dealing with flakes and excuses. I create so many musical ideas that I don’t have time for distractions like a drummer’s girlfriend deciding when a session ends or a guitarist overcomplicating a simple pre-chorus riff. When I hit a creative block, I run 30 seconds through Suno and get fresh ideas to build on. It’s been an invaluable tool for me.

[@philip6252]

Pack it up. The mountain town is calling

[@Matan4]

My hobby is producing music, not typing words into a website. This is like advertising a car to a runner. Of course it will get you from A to B faster. But if you enjoy running, driving to the finish line defeats the entire purpose. Where's the challenge and feeling of accomplishment in that?

[@rippingmyheartwassoeasy]

Okay Zoomer.... 😂

[@GoldMusic30]

A diferença é que música feita por a.i não per personalidade. Todo mundo seria igual. E quem fizer do modo tradicional iria se diferenciar. Então se você é bom vai continuar sendo bom ❤

[@Rivalofficial]

While this is all super interesting and kinda cool I am SO conflicted about using the technology or not. I mean technically I am being inspired by something that is based on other peoples creations and used by suno / udio WITHOUT their permission and consent. So who am I to say that whatever song I end up making is truly something I created? How could I even register such work legally with a PRO if let's say a melody I used is coming from an AI-Music generator? Now it's probably impossible to trace any of this down but it feels so wrong (to me) haha.

[@JOHNNYLEGION]

I've been waiting for you to make this video! Suno is a game changing tool.

[@rechasebass]

Hearing these tracks also thinking about the recent news where the dude stole millions from Spotify by botting streams across thousands of AI generated songs….it is a little depressing. How is Spotify going to manage the addition of an endless slew of AI generated music, especially as the AI generated music continues to climb in quality? It’s already difficult to reach the average person on Spotify , and with the added noise of AI generated spam I’m afraid of what things will become. Unless Spotify can figure out how to implement some effective controls, I fear tools like this may bring more harm than good.

[@MrRADicalOfficial]

My biggest problem with AI is that it is going to become more than any basic tool. It is just going to do 95-99% of the work for you, leaving you only with a few minor things to change after whatever it generated. As AI gets better, the spamming will become faster, and all of it will be super high quality music. This is going to hurt real producers really badly because it is, like with other jobs, going to replace a lot of people/make a lot of people sellout. Why spend days, weeks, or even months perfecting a song when you can use an AI generator(s) to generate an entire song in a few hours, and eventually in less than a minute. So BS. The only way I can see services surviving this is by using their own AI's to detect AI generated music and throw it into its own category. I'll never be touching that sht though, I want to support real people.

[@DJStatusss]

How we get those racks. What are they for

[@OfficialAHEE]

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[@polaria.coronel-gt2762]

its so good that it just makes me sad

[@innavision1920]

Here I am spending endless hours of my life, staying up until wee hours of the night, trying to make something impressive. And now any old person can type in what they want in a damn generator and out produce me and farm in the credit

[@disskuss4268]

I agree, brother - embrace it and use it instead of feeling threatened. When photography was invented, many painters thought they would lose their value. But this new technology pushed them to be far more creative. This is why movements like Impressionism, Expressionism, Cubism, and Surrealism were born. They created expressions that were more human than what photography could capture. I hope exciting new music genres will emerge - ones you can't create with Suno and similar AIs. In the end, it takes a human to make sensitive and intelligent decisions that speak to the souls of others. AI tends to average everything out, drawing from things we’ve seen and heard a million times already.

[@MrRADicalOfficial]

For now. It's in its infancy. I've already heard one AI song that actually had interesting sound design, it just had bad production. In 5-20 years that won't be the case. This isn't going to be like the invention of cars, radios, phones, or even something like cameras at all, though. AI has the potential to be millions(+) of times more powerful. If you think it will be like when the camera was invented, then you're either ignorant, naive, and/or idiotic, I'm sorry, but that just is what it is. There will be generators that can generate entire songs in less than 10 minutes that rival any other thing that exists today. AI most definitely has the potential to surpass what a human could ever make, at least in terms of something that someone could make within a reasonable time frame. You want a complex lead synth? You (un)tick a few boxes, move a slider(s), and/or type in a prompt and it spits it out. Sounds too muddied? Tell the AI to fix it. Still off? Tell it to do something else. Now you have a great lead synth, that maybe just needs a few minor tweaks from you, but it may only take a few minutes if you know what you're doing. It will be able to do that, and far more. It won't just set the foundation, it can build the walls, the ceiling, the insulation, fill in all the empty space with furniture and decor; that is, make a fully complete, or nearly complete, complex song. It is a decent tool now, but in a few years it will be ridiculously OP. Just like with AI art, a ton of people who don't know how to make music will just use AI to do most of the work for them, then market it as made by them with no AI used 100% no lie for real totally not a scammer, and make free money. It likely won't be a lot of money, since the market is going to get flooded with AI songs by AI bots generating music 24/7 and then uploading it themselves instantly, but still. And yes AI art itself has its own limitations, but again, AI is in its infancy. This is quite literally only the beginning. I'm hoping the diminishing returns hit quickly so we don't blast off into this at full speed, like with nukes, but it isn't likely considering they are definitely going to use AI to make better AI. I've read some people saying AI has already come up with new ideas on how to do things that nobody has thought of before too, and I could see that translating over to other media as well. "In the end, it takes a human to make sensitive and intelligent decisions that speak to the souls of others." But if it is consuming all of the sensitive and intelligent content made by human, then it has the capacity of outputting sensitive and intelligent content, and potentially has the capability of making something "original". Once AI gets good enough, you can just tell it in the prompt to make a song that has deep meaning and emotion behind it. What then? I don't think you get how this works. We're slowly making ourselves obsolete. This is the dumbest advancement/arms race humanity has ever had. It is literally going to make so many people lose purpose and meaning in life. This is being made at the detriment of humanity overall. Sure, there will be benefits, but most people will abuse it because they're lazy and/or evil. Most of the work being done on AI isn't even for the benefit of the average person, it is being advanced for profit and power. Almost every country, especially the big countries like the US, China, Russia, etc., are doing it to out compete the other. It has nothing to do with helping their own citizens well being, like with health or financial problems, which I mean they already allow thousands of toxic chemicals and drugs (toxic chemicals too) with little to no studies on them, so why would they care about making AI that would help you at all? The corporations are already pulling the strings to benefit themselves, not the consumers. A lot of health things, for example, are made for profit, and usually they do that by making it help you in the short-term but not in the long-term, so later on you have more problems that need fixing, so they can now offer you another pill or whatever it is. They know you likely won't make the connection that it is what you're already taking. This applies to other things like cosmetic/beauty products, where they help with something like acne, in the short-term, but long-term can actually increase it. Then they say, "Oh it's not strong enough, so buy our other product ___ to go along with it!". It's all bs. None of these companies really care, and neither does the average person. This is why I say the average person is an ok person, not a good person. Most people are going to abuse AI for their own gain because every bodies morals are too low, and people really lack a lot of empathy in general, unless it is someone they're close too like family or friends. If given the chance, most people will take the easy way out, e.g. to make a quick buck. This is one of the big reasons we live in the society(s) we live in today; full of corruption, with incompetence, naivety, selfishness, and narcissism thriving. We're dumb animals, and dumb animals will use AI for dumb animal things. "drawing from things we’ve seen and heard a million times already." There is very little in this world that has been made by humans that isn't inspired by something that existed before it. Most ideas were first based off of the world around us, so mostly nature, meaning most human made things are not original, at least not entirely. Like, for example, Lovecraft is inspired by space and animals, or like how most Gods, and other things, in religions are based off human or other animals (Greek Gods look human, Baphomet is based off of humans, birds, and goats, so on and so forth). Every video game character or enemy is inspired by some sort of animal, plant, or fungi that already exists in the real world. There are some more original ideas, but most aren't. AI is consuming everything the programmer is feeding it, so theoretically, with enough space, it could consume all content on the internet. Once AI is more advanced it will do that, and with all the media that exists it will be able to produce some cool but also gnarly stuff, as it is already starting too. The things I can imagine AI creating myself is already mind boggling, to say THE LEAST. Nah, advanced AI can go fk right off. I like it in video games, but it branching off into, well.. everything, is stupid. It makes me lose motivation to even do anything, personally. I just hope for the path where it causes the least amount of suffering.

[@disskuss4268]

@@MrRADicalOfficial well the promise AI will be so unbelievable awesome in the future is only that, a promise. To make investors put a lot of money into that area. I don't believe it yet because everything created by AI has this AI touch most people recognize quickly. "But, it will be perfect in x-amount of years!" Until then our taste might change and is longing for stuff AI can't do. A totally different way of music we can't imagine yet. AI isnt truly crative it remixes stuff that allready exists in predictible ways. Once in a while there is a genius human that has a way no one had before and revolutionize a field. The existence of this new technology will chance our perception as well as photography did. A lot of people hate AI art now. And artists that coincidentally made art with a similar look like that have to find new ways to express themselfes to stay relevant. What AI will never be able to do is to exist in the real world. It's an internet and computer thing. People in the future might be more interested again in things that are natural instead of digital because of that. Who knows

[@MrRADicalOfficial]

@@disskuss4268 It can exist in the real world, to a degree, via androids. AI eventually being "unbelievable awesome" is also arguably an objective fact, not subjective or just a "promise". At the rate it is advancing it won't be long, actually, and I think it just is going to be that advanced, not might. It's already starting to make realistic videos.. which is bad. We won't be able to tell in just a few more years, and possibly even in just a year. I think you're forgetting billions are being sunk into this, countries are at an arms race, and like I said, AI will be used to make stronger AI. It will likely get faster and faster, ramping up until an eventual diminishing returns roadblock is finally hit, but that won't be until several years from now. "for stuff AI can't do" It's already starting to be able to do a lot, and once it understands the human mind entirely, it's all over. It will be able to do everything we can do, and more, while being able to do it thousands to millions of times faster. Have you seen the videos where an AI plays a video game level over and over and over, until it can do it perfectly? It is going to do that, but with everything. It is going to make music over and over and over, until it can do it "perfectly". Humans cannot compete with (near) perfection. "AI isnt truly crative it remixes stuff that allready exists in predictible ways." In what way was the second song the AI generated of Rainbow Funk easily predictable? Even Ahee said it was cool. It can't be creative though, yes, because it is just code in a program, it isn't even alive, but that doesn't mean it can't use OUR creativity to create things that are creative. Music is the manipulation of sound. There is no reason why AI can't manipulate sound into new interesting ways. If it takes every sound that exists on the internet and creates something out of it, then it can definitely be new and super interesting. This is because sound is very different compared to the AI art. Also, like I said with the video game learning thing, people are going to have AI using DAWs, synthesizers, and plugins, creating their own sounds from it. They can use our media as a foundation to guess what may sound good to us humans, but it could potentially make its own sounds on its own with those tools and not just be mashed up generated content. "People in the future might be more interested again in things that are natural instead of digital because of that." There will always be people interested in the natural stuff, but like with everything, once something has been around long enough people become complacent with whatever it is. This is even worse with kids when it is in terms of something bad, as their still growing minds grow up with whatever it is, completely normalizing it, and in society as the old die out eventually all that is left was the kids that grew up with whatever it is, and the future kids then grow up with it too. Society becomes complacent as a whole. This can be seen in so many things, like with say smartphones. There are kids growing up with smartphones, since as long as they could hold them. In the kids mind, this is a totally normal and not out of place thing. If you took that phone away from them and didn't give it back, to them it could be like taking away a legitimate necessity like their bed, food, or whatever. In the same vein, once kids grow up with AI, it will be like AI has always existed. It will be a totally normal and natural thing to them and everyone else. This complacency can lead down a multitude of dark roads, like the bestowing of "rights" to androids/AI. Conversely, there will still be those that oppose such things, but most will be complacent, and many will even fight for it, blinded by ignorance. I don't see much good in this overall. I don't like something that isn't even alive creating media that rivals ours.

[@disskuss4268]

@@MrRADicalOfficial I understand where you're coming from, but I still see some flaws in a few of your assumptions. First, there’s the question of whether we should blindly trust tech experts who claim that AI will effortlessly advance itself. The reality is that it will require far more resources than many might anticipate. The exponential growth in computing power demands exponentially increasing amounts of funding. Will it really become cheaper at such a rapid pace? Perhaps governments could afford this for military purposes or in scientific contexts. As we know, tech giants love to tell grand stories about how their latest innovations will revolutionize the world, making predictions that often fail to materialize, or at least, not in the way they expected. I don't believe AI will ever fully understand the human mind. Why? Because it isn’t human. If you assume the brain is merely a computational system, then yes, you might think it can eventually be decoded. But being human is about much more than just having a brain; it’s about being part of Earth, society, culture, and family. We not only have a brain but also a heart and a gut where many of our emotions originate, closely linked to the brain and capable of influencing our thoughts, and vice versa. Another assumption you seem to make is that AI-generated content will continue to improve in an objectively measurable way. I disagree. AI still needs humans-many of them-to assess its creations. AI itself has no sense of whether what it produces is good or bad. It could create something utterly nonsensical or something brilliant that no one had conceived before, but it takes human judgment to recognize that. And people will always evaluate things differently. Training AI with AI alone could lead to a form of intellectual inbreeding, causing it to become increasingly distorted.

[@FunTimeAdventure-s3u]

The fucking rainbow is sick

[@santiclaus_nocap_allstem]

Love it thanks for the tips. That guy who sent you the Ai track has a long way to go if he thinks these songs sound close to professionally made

[@tomholli]

Some things I noticed. In custom mode, Suno is pretty sensitive to the lyrics. If you want a particular style, use lyrics that are common/expected for the genre. Then, once you get the right vibe, extend it but use new lyrics. You can also try extending it from different timestamps to get different results. For acapella, don’t use acapella for the genre unless you want it to sound like Pentatonix. Instead, use “audiobook” as the genre.

[@OfficialAHEE]

Interesting insight! I will try it out! Thank you!

[@Roses_R_redeR]

Heck yeah brother this is actually pretty cool if you use it for what you're using it for.. 🔥🥀🔥

[@Matan4]

Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for chocolate brownies

AI cannot make groundbreaking music

[@innavision1920]

It’s over

[@nullnull2128]

Are you sponsored by Suno?

[@Guntherthefool]

Highly likely, this feels like a Suno ad a bit

[@acidlizard951]

hey ahee just wanna say thank you this is very interesting video . nice to see how you can benefit with AI as a tool. for RIPX do you how to get rid of artifacts from vocals when you separate the stems from the songs. . some songs the vocal come out clean but some come out very poopy.

[@philip6252]

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[@MrRADicalOfficial]

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[@AvivC1]

Would be great to see you go into some more depth about the controversy/law, morality/ethics, and predictions of usage in the future both good and bad, from your professional opinion!! 🙏✨

[@MrRADicalOfficial]

That's what I was waning to see. All of the artists I listen to could start using AI without me even knowing. If they use AI it will really make me not even interested in their music anymore. I listen for interesting complex sound, and because of human creativity. I don't care anymore if the human element is taken out of it.

[@rileylove8560]

except stem separating ai songs kinda sucks