Making My Friend Guess Fate Servants

[@steelbeans]

Yes we are very aware that Caesar is a Saber. That question and answer was still in reference to Sherlock. Please stop commenting about it please

[@RedsHitpostMedia]

No

[@solitudeguard3138]

Bruh you should’ve shown Jack the Ripper just to see who or what they thought he’d be.

[@СимеонСемёнов]

If you're planning on doing anther one of these, consider either adding more incorrect names to the list, pictures of characters from other anime/manga/games or remove the list with names entirely, to make guessing harder. For most Fate characters one can relatively easy connect the design with their country of origin, and then with the name.

[@IsseiL]

But also, Marie Antoinette is a Rider

[@seta2710]

Persona 5 Ann’s persona is Carmen, not Carmilla

[@HellsRaven4444]

The reason why Ozy is a Rider is because he has Ra's Boat "Mesektet: The Solar Ship of the Dark Night" that is supposed to carry the sun across the world. As he is supposed to be the son of Ra as well as the incarnation of Ra himself, he can call upon this boat to shoot down beams of light from the sky.

[@PittBullBytes]

i thought he rides the pyramids like a boss... i'm joking

[@namelessbread-]

@@PittBullBytes i non-jokingly thought that he was a rider because of that

[@sanjeevsinghrajput5593]

@@PittBullBytes he rides that Sphinx from his extra attack

[@ceoofjeanneism6777]

No, he is a Rider because Ramssess was an epic charioteer

[@aliveandkicking5461]

@@ceoofjeanneism6777then where the hell is his chariot?

[@Rosencrantz17]

Saber when someone offends her: Don't talk to me, or evil me, or me when I took up the holy lance and became evil and got big boobs, or me when I corrupted the holy lance and became good, or me when I decided to learn magic instead of becoming King, or me screwing around with a watergun at the beach, or evil me on a motorcycle, or evil santa me, or me from space college, or evil me from space college, or me who dropped out of space college and became an overworked space cop, or evil me from space college during her idol career, or me who took up the holy lance and became evil but decided to go to Las Vegas and dressed up as a bunny girl because my knights told me that it was casino formal wear, or my younger self ever again.

[@DennisOfDragons]

And hey, the usual "or my son" works too!

[@utswriter]

@@DennisOfDragons Saber: What son?

[@kinjorex101]

@@utswriter Mordred )':

[@utswriter]

@@kinjorex101 *saber leans closer to the microphone* Who?

[@Infinity-nn5pe]

*I never get tired of these videos, no matter how many I watch.*

[@whatverse1464]

so, we don't quite know why Drake is a woman, but the biggest theory (to the point it's even acknowledged in game in a "wink wink, nudge nudge, kind of way) is that sometime, the actual Francis Drake and Elizabeth I actually swapped places. as for what Drake did, he was the one that beat the "invincible" Spanish Armada, as well as being the first English man, and one of if not the first people to circumnavigate the globe. as for Saber, the Artoria-Altria mix up is a translation issue, not an age up thing or anything. her name is based off of the latin Artorius, so the older content uses the translation of Artoria, but the because there is no distinction between L and R in Japanese, and if you say it fairly fast it sounds the same, so Type moon has gone fore the shorter version recently.

[@whatverse1464]

as for Ozy, it isn't theorized about nothing; he outright states that Moses is his brother(and that he and the MC have absolutely nothing in common with each other). as for why he's Rider, he's supposed to be the incarnation of Ra, and that gives him access to Ra's sun barge. Marie is a Rider, with the crystal horse being her NP and Romulus' spear thing is apparently linked to something about a tree and the hill upon Rome was founded? Jack isn't the manifestation of all the women he killed, but rather the wraith of all the aborted fetuses that were tossed in the river Thames

[@steelbeans]

@@whatverse1464 That all makes a lot of sense, thanks for the info my guy.

[@whatverse1464]

@@steelbeans np, and sorry if I sound a bit lecture-y; I just really like Fate's lore and mythos

[@adam-dn3hi]

Correction:older contect hase altria on it due to a mistransletion Nasu and type moon never intended it to be altria it is artoria Altria was just a weird transletion error

[@steelbeans]

@@adam-dn3hi I figured. Japanese is fun and Altria and Altoria are basically pronounced the same in Japanese

[@Simmlex]

There is no Avenger Artoria. Yet. Also, Ruler =/= king or monarch. Ruler in this case means "Someone who upholds the rules."

[@gilgameshlfx7006]

Usually saints.

[@exudeku]

@@gilgameshlfx7006 (looks at QSH and Astrea) yeah

[@nerdybwi3122]

@@RoninTheCrusader I thought the Grail was unrelated to Christianity? Pagan servants have been summoned all the time, and the Catholic Church confirmed that it wasn't the Jesus cup. The two rulers that have been summoned non-FGO just happened to be Christian.

[@chukyuniqul]

Ruler is also something one would conceivably slap someone on the wrist with. When they misbehave. There is a pun I was trying to make but I can't figure it out.

[@Simmlex]

@@chukyuniqul Yeah I actually use that joke with the ruler myself XD

[@hzuilquigmnzhah1017]

rin "you cant just throw a sword at someone and call yourself an archer" gilgamesh "watch me mongrel"

[@grimm_satisfaction1292]

Archer: "You sure about that? You sure that's a FACT, Rin?"

[@hikarihakai1285]

while iconic Sherlock Holmes never have the silly hat in reality but it simply something that get popular overtime from one adaptation

[@Swebloody]

Btw not all knights of the round tables are sabers, Tristan is an archer and Percival is a lancer

[@Version.X]

"Oda Nobunaga" "Chinese name" Bruh

[@crmsonred]

Bruh moment

[@pwnorbepwned]

“No. I am from Laos.”

[@thedualblade]

On Bedivere, his arm was never cut off as something made up in Fate. I don't remember what happened to it but it is missing in the myths/legends as well. Excalibur being turned into an arm for him of course is Fate.

[@knightofendor8384]

The actual reason for why Jack the Ripper was a loli is because they’re a manifestation of the cruelties of Victorian, industrial England made flesh through the souls of all the children who died on the streets during the period. Which is also why they keep searching for a mother whenever they are summoned.

[@saxor96]

There's also important to point out that she could even not be the real Jack the Ripper, she's just one of the plausible theories (with some grounds because these vengeful spirits existed). I'm so happy there's a Berserker Jack that justifies the existence of multiple Jack candidates and theories.

[@Phantom_of_Black]

My own head canon for Assassin Jack being a girl specifically is based on that that scene in Apocrypha where you get the reveal about Jack being that manifestation, we see a girl who resembles Assassin Jack basically kill her prostitute mother. Due to that specific tragedy the girl in question is the one who most closely fits the True Name "Jack the Ripper" and post the kids becoming a Servant her appearance was used as the basis for their Servant form.

[@saxor96]

@@Phantom_of_Black I... haven't seen that scene at all. The episode has only scenes of children dying (including the girl that looks a little like Jeanne). At the end of the day, they're just vengeful spirits that maybe killed, maybe not.

[@PKmaster12]

Also she’s not just a manifestation of the children who died on the streets, she’s also a manifestation of all the aborted babies of the city, which is why she disembowels prostitutes

[@tuesdaynext7370]

She's almost certainly not the actual Jack the Ripper in-universe. The reason Jack the Ripper is so well-known is that they wrote letters to their local newspapers after their kills. That little waif is as literate as I am muscular (that is to say, not at all).

[@neilsulit7465]

Marie Antoinette is a Rider but her summer version is a Caster

[@chrismaples9392]

Thank god someone else noticed that slip

[@Josh-ee8fh]

Thank you

[@AAR-pz9nb]

The comment I was looking for

[@TactlessC]

The reason Francis Drake is a woman is because, due to being a not so subtle romancer of Queen Elizabeth, in Fate world there was a theory she switched places with him after receiving a scar on her face and couldn't go out in public anymore. So even though Drake is historically male, due to this aspect of his backstory, Drake manifested as a woman, POSSIBLY even the image of Queen Elizabeth.

[@yeah5895]

She appeared as a woman in Okeanos, though, and she was a Living Hero there

[@Treilerk]

Actually, Drake was apparently manlier than the men of her crew, so they treated her like a man, or they would feel inadequate. The Queen Elizabeth thing was just a Fate/Extra thing that was never mentioned again.

[@StormDracoX]

​@@yeah5895 Remember that she was originally a Servant from Extra

[@yeah5895]

@@StormDracoX Not to be rude, but yeah, and?

[@StormDracoX]

@@yeah5895 It's actually pretty obvious if you play Extra, because there were a bunch of hints that Francis is actually Queen Elizabeth in there So, yeah, what TactelessC said was basically the reason why she was a woman, at least in Extra But F/GO has some differences than the original and there's no actual reason why she's female except for waifu reasons

[@bookworm13x]

If I recall correctly, Moses does have a canon design for Fate, but he was never voiced and we don't have any insight on his abilities as a servant.

[@maximilianolavenacollaud8342]

Yeah For Fragments of Sky Silver i think

[@kaitoalkan]

In Ozy's backstory, yeah.

[@crashsmasher8789]

He actually has a voice. It's the same VA of Shinji from Evangelion.

[@noahhill4968]

So does Zeus, but he's less of a servant and more of a boss.

[@harryhung8263]

God: get in the robot Moses!!!

[@HitsujiMamoru]

Even Paul Bunyan doesn't know why he is a giant anime girl. That's in their summon line lol And no, Napoleon is SUPER good. He has big damage support for the party all across the board, he can charge his NP, he can bypass invincibility and other defenses and his NP damage is very honorable. The only thing he lacks is any form of survival tools. Not great to pick as a Friend Support, but having yours is awesome!

[@GT-xw7rg]

The main problem with Napoleon is that while he’s not Bad per say, he’s just outclassed by almost every other AoE buster archer and there’s a lot of really good ones. If you have a gil, and Ishtar, or even Tesla, it’s hard to justify going for Napoleon unless you like him (which is he great).

[@HitsujiMamoru]

@@GT-xw7rg i have a reason for you: he can spook. This is exactly why he is the way he is designed like that I would say. Napoleon is the replacement unit for your failed attempts at the "better ones". Of course if you love him like I do he is the best, bias and all lol

[@GoblinLord]

friend: (doesn't know servant) Friend: It's Francis Drake isn't it?

[@luvslotsastuff]

It's fitting that they had a hard time remembering what Gilgamesh's class was, given in CCC he doesn't have a class and is just summoned as "Gilgamesh".

[@blackdragonfighter5144]

Paul Bunyan is an April fool's joke they made permanent I'm pretty sure.

[@belphy205]

Their Limited but yes.

[@nomukun1138]

She was from the "Learn with Manga" joke comics.

[@midnight4956]

Pretty sure she’s just a sort of dough moulded and grown and became Paul Bunyan.

[@GBlockbreaker]

@@nomukun1138 it's not really a joke comic, it's the official tutorial for the game

[@hesklairvoyant]

the reason why some of them look like dangromp character s is cause the dangrompa artist drew them

[@midnight4956]

The artist of Danganronpa drew Edmond Dante’s and Cleopatra, I kinda wish he drew another character in the game.

[@sprectra4344]

dragongrandpa

[@ItsLynch1]

@@midnight4956 he drew that one bronze executioner guy but that’s it

[@KnightsGone]

@@ItsLynch1 he didn't make that servant, the artist is the same one that made Julius ceaser as well dangan illustrator literally only made two servants

[@SamGarcia]

Romulus spear is a tree. It literally says in his NP. Julius can't have the Ruler class for lore reasons (not accounting for Type Moon made up reasons). Rulers are usually Saints, like Catholic Saints, except for the aforementioned made up Type Moon shenanigans for exceptions. Marie in her swimsuit form is Caster. The one showed is a Rider.

[@yammoto148]

Its said Rulers have no desire for the grail. So any servant that can mediate a holy grail war and not seek the grail for themselves.

[@SamGarcia]

​@@yammoto148 Technically not true because if you read some lore of non-Rulers, they don't have desires for the Grail either

[@yammoto148]

@@SamGarcia Yes that means they qualify for Ruler. Having no inherit desire for the grail is the qualification.

[@SamGarcia]

@@yammoto148 not indicated so. All non-Saints Rulers are still explained away in the lore as special exceptions, not because they did not desire the grail.

[@yammoto148]

@@SamGarcia In the case of event servants yes, but in the case of Shi Huang Di and Sherlock its stated they do not desire the grail specifically.

[@unrankedchevron742]

I believe the main quality of a Ruler class servant is that they can't want anything for themselves. Which would ironically exclude most political leaders.

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

No wish for the holy grail, a willingness or calling to uphold the rules, and there is one other thing that I can't remember off the top of my head.

[@unrankedchevron742]

@@casteanpreswyn7528 So why was Shirou Amakusa a Ruler, then?

[@haydenadams3308]

@@unrankedchevron742 Originally he was void of a wish, was able to uphold the rules and reasonably powerful... but the Grail War changed him. Basically he was a corrupted ruler messed up existing too long and being too affected by the war.

[@harryhung8263]

Because the ainsberns cheated again as always and summoned a ruler class (instead of avenger angry mango in the main timeline), BTW if amakusa is not summoned. As ruler he's actually really weak as in 7th singularity he got off screened by jaguarman

[@brandonhawker6597]

@@harryhung8263 Yup. In the Apocrypha timeline, instead of summoning Angry Matthew (props if you get the reference), they summoned Shirou Amakusa. But his war went undecided because Darnic stole the Grail. But because Shirou Amakusa remained afterwards, as he's provided infinite mana by the Grail itself due to his unique Class abilities, he then existed in the world up until the Great Holy Grail War, watching first hand the atrocities humanity committed against itself, which is why he sought to manifest everyone's souls using Heaven's Feel, to free them from their earthly desires and help them reach salvation. Fun fact, this would also mean that the Apocrypha Timeline Holy Grail was never corrupted. Meaning that it should have been impossible for Jack the Ripper or any other Servant that is more of a villain or anti-hero to be summoned. No joke, Jack the Ripper actually should not have existed in the Great Holy Grail War at all, because the major lore event in F/SN that allowed Servants such as Gilles de Rais, Medusa, Vlad III, True Assassin, and Jack the Ripper herself never happened. Angra Mainyu was never summoned, meaning the Grail was never corrupted upon his death. And yet, somehow, Servants like Jack the Ripper are still capable of being summoned. This actually either implies that the Grail was corrupted in some way from the beginning, or is a massive plot oversight in Fate/Apocrypha.

[@YukitoOnline]

Fate servants designs are based on certain specific parts of their famous stories/lore/history along with the "what if scenarios" & "theories". Hence, the multiple classes of Fate. (Saber, Archer, Lancer, Rider, Caster, Berserker, Assassin, Avenger, Ruler, MoonCancer, Alter-Ego, Foreigner, Beast, Pretender) Fate servants are pretty much a caricature of the original people/character that they are based on. Also the artworks of various servants in Fate Grand Order are from multiple artists who made them. Hence, the difference in the art styles of every servants. Francis Drake's design in Fate is based on the rumor that Drake was actually the Queen in disguise.. Francis Drake is famous for defeating the Spanish Armada.

[@TheKaiwind]

That lancelot answer was painful, always go with your gut.

[@comictoonmlg]

this was really fun to watch i hope you do more of these

[@comictoonmlg]

i love the little fact about the servants you guys talk about

[@GarkKahn]

I always wondered why some characters like iskandar or ozymandias have those names and not their most known ones

[@lily-_-]

I think Ozymandias is a pretty well-known name, given the poem and all.

[@BurntFrenchToast106]

the name Iskandar is given to him by the Persians cuz they can't pronounce his name

[@DarthVerde1611]

If I'm not mistaken, ozymandias is a poem, ozymandias was supposed to be Ramses II actually, I could be talking shit, but i think is something like that

[@yammoto148]

@@DarthVerde1611 Yup thats right. Ozymandias is his Greek name.

[@evansageser6943]

My guess would be that Ozymandias has resonance due to the poem that declared him "King of Kings". (which is also his title in Fate Lore) Iskandar I feel is similar. The name more thoroughly encompasses his "King of Conquerors" title. When he was merely a young commander in Greece he was called Alexander, it was when his foreign subjects called him Iskandar that he was truly a Conqueror. That's why I believe his younger form in FGO is called Alexander while his Older form is Iskandar.

[@eddmario]

You should have done Thomas Edison just because nobody would expect a steampunk lion.

[@Eddman368]

the reason jack is a little girl is because she's the amalgam of all the dead orphans and aborted fetuses that died in London during that era, she went around carving woman's stomachs because she wanted to return to the womb so she could be born properly, that's also why she also treats her master as her "mommy" (regardless of gender), her wish for the grail is to go back into her "mommy"

[@haydenadams3308]

"All the round Table servants are knights thus sabers..." O.O ... Tristan, Gareth, Merlin, Galahad, Merlin (proto), Fairy Knight Tristan, Fairy Knight Lancelot, Morgan, Lancelot (Berserker), Mash.

[@chrismaples9392]

He said the normal versions, so fairy knights are out, and none of the Merlins are knights. Gareth, Tristan and Galahad count though.

[@GBlockbreaker]

The merlins and fairies aren't part of the round table and all the actual knights do classify for Saber class, the few on fgo that aren't just usually don't get summoned as one cuz other classes fit their most famous feats better but if you were to summon Tristan as in a regular grail war and only the Saber slot was free then yeah, he'd be a saber no problem, same goes for Gareth and Galahad Usually the requirements for being a saber are either having a legend related to either a sword or sword skills and all of the round table members can be related to Excalibur and most of them were mentioned to be proficient at sword play

[@haydenadams3308]

@@GBlockbreaker Doesn't really help a person guessing their classes tho does it? A bunch of characters that look, or have names referring to Arthurian legend are not sabers as they have been summoned in game. A layman would assume "Round Table" meaning broadly "Arthurian". Thus Merlin and characters that look like knights will confuse them. So if the same person was to try and guess based on that statement alone they would guess saber and be incorrect. Which would be annoying for me as a viewer because the statement wasn't very informative or helpful for the guesser and makes them worse than they might actually be. When teaching someone, you need to be cautious in your wording as you no longer have their perspective and need to phrase what you say correctly if you want a positive result from teaching them. They will pick up on things you won't because they are learning. You will ignore such common logical assumptions because you've already learnt the lore. And when the topic is, "what class is this character in-game?", telling them how in-lore the class system works in direct opposition to the current class is unhelpful and meaningless to the current topic. Saying they could all be saber is unhelpful when the person is trying to guess Tristan's class which is archer. If the guy does another video with the same friend and asks him to guess one of those aforementioned characters, they will likely guess wrong if they remember that statement. The statement is categorically wrong when in reference to the knights' classes in the actual game and will make the guesser wrong too.

[@GBlockbreaker]

@@haydenadams3308 no, a layman would assume "round table knights" means knights of the round table, "from Arthurian legend" meanwhile meaning from Arthurian legend

[@geebeepman]

I've considered getting into the fate series a while back either via fgo or the anime but I didn't have time to play another daily grind gacha while the fate anime series just felt convoluted by how many videos tried explaining it so I ended giving up on it. anyway I tried playing along as someone who doesn't really know any of the fate characters besides female arthur/artoria, gilgamesh and astolfo who I randomly saw every now and then, and I'm surprised that most of my guesses based solely on their looks and backgrounds ended up correct besides achilles and francis drake.

[@treedude4246]

Fate is up there with homestuck as in like "this is so much fun when i dont understand it"

[@wajoriahpanahcnak1382]

Archer in FGO nearly mean using every weapon except Bow. xD

[@GBlockbreaker]

Well, it applies to all heroic spirits that have famous ranged attacks so of course lots of them don't use bows

[@saxor96]

In fact, more than 2/3rds of the "non joke" Archer Servants have a bow, a crossbow, or something that works like a bow.

[@Solvernia]

The Ruler class doesn't really have anything to do with ruling a kingdom, state, or country. Think about it majority of servants are kings/pharaohs/emperors and none of them are rulers with the exception of Christmas Quetzalcoatl. While the other Rulers like Jeanne, Sherlock, Amakusa, and Martha never lead anything outside a small group of people

[@Kamiyodesuyo]

Actually, in game, Marie Antoinette have 2 versions. And main (og) one is Rider, Caster Marie is a summer event version.

[@ghostshrimp5006]

And an altar on the way

[@zerocrimson8725]

Caesar IS a Saber, not a Ruler

[@ibica29]

They were referring to Sherlock

[@sotoro2154]

HAHAHAHA when the guy said Mozart looked like a persona i cracked and proceeded to fall through a flight of stairs

[@sorasekkai]

You should do more of this

[@madjax6613]

Julius Caesar's design I find hilarious for multiple reasons, for one Ruler class "servants" are summoned only to refree he and holy trail wars, like how Joan of Arc was in Aprothica, so imagining him in her place is hilarious, and knowing that historically, one major thing that man did was get it on with Cleopatra, so that pot belly puts a lot of imagery from the second Austin Powers movie, where Fat Bastrad slept with the Blond American spy.

[@anhdunghisinh]

25:41 Ozy rides 2 things, his sphinx pet and a f*cking pyramid

[@VasalisErretti]

As every fate fan is crawling out of the woodwork for this guess I'll leave my 2 tidbits in as well. I think of the fake servants you put in the video ironically all except Michelangelo unless I'm mistaken have designs. Sun Wukong is actually a servant, in the FGO Learning with the Manga joke manga spin off, so it's a bit weird as he's on that border in terms of technically an FGO servant, but not one that's actually in the main game, kinda comparable to FGO arcade exclusive servants maybe in that they under the FGO umbrella but aren't in the mobile game. (Really wish he along with some of the arcade exclusives were in main game, like Proto-Merlin, Christmas Suzuka and Sita). The rest of the fake servants as mentioned have designs either due to the Greek Lostbelt, or Moses due to Ozymandias side lore/ Prototype lore I think?

[@fulgatus]

"I'd ride Ozymandias" LMAOOO KILLED ME

[@EMlYA_SHlR0U]

From what I remember, isn't Caesar a Saber?

[@gobe30]

Paul Bunyan is a giant loli anime girl is because they were released on April Fools. Paul was given the quickest NP (2-3secs at 2x speed) in the response from fgo fans asking for an NP skip.

[@sweetchilli3069]

Napoleon isn’t the best as a friend servant, but having your own in party is a massive boost. Mine’s gotten me through some nasty battles.

[@acnologi1115]

Classes are easy to remember as they have the knight class (saber archer lancer) and calvary class (rider berserker caster assassin)

[@nikolaytekuchev136]

Lu Bu was a renowned archer as well.

[@GoblinLord]

funniest thing about Gilgamesh is that he never had Ea in his story, Enuma Elish is the name of the Babylonian Creation Myth, and Ea is one of the Gods, the Sword itself is actually in his vault on pure technicality

[@Phantom_of_Black]

The Sword of Rupture itself is very significant but it doesn't have a name so Gilgamesh himself names it "Ea" and its attack "Enuma Elish" for thematic appropriateness with what the weapon can actually do.

[@GoblinLord]

@@Phantom_of_Black I am aware of this, and also aware of the fact that it makes my statement double true

[@GoblinLord]

it was some sort of alien weapon

[@roguecaster8715]

More Primordial than Alien.

[@GoblinLord]

@@roguecaster8715 eeeeehhhhh Potato Watermelon (shrugs)

[@hamzahax]

You might want to recheck that backstory on Jack the Ripper

[@arkentile5265]

Thank god someone mentioned that

[@TheMetalWeirdo]

Yeha. If I recall correctly (correct me if I'm wrong) but the Young Girl Jack the Ripper is the manifestion of all the children that Whitechapels prostitutes aborted. Or something like that.

[@arkentile5265]

@@TheMetalWeirdo yes that is correct

[@CastleOfAvalon]

i got every single one right, and i only knew Saber and Achiles from this list.

[@CastleOfAvalon]

@Leandro brando Arthur. Besides, she is the only saber who we always call Saber. The other sabers are called by their names. Fandom

[@CastleOfAvalon]

@Leandro brando nope i am already used to say saber. And most of the fandom too.

[@CastleOfAvalon]

@Leandro brando why do you mean "its wrong"

[@CastleOfAvalon]

@Leandro brando ok so again, most of the people, the fandom, are calling arthur "Saber". So people will understand what i mean, with a few exceptions like you. Why we do that ? because she/he was the first servant (saber) we ever met in the series/manga. She/he is the original Saber who started the whole thing. it makes no sense to talk about this. I will continue calling her Saber. Like most of the fandom does. thats it. Accept it. I dont care whats right for YOU and whats not.

[@VeritasNumquamPerit]

@UCowNeRg_R4sv10ClczdGJKA bruh are you snorting void dust? In normal grail war you DON'T call servant by theit name, because that mean you expose their legend, which mean enemy know who your servant is and how to beat them up. In fan context, calling Artoria or arthur as saber is still acceptable because everyone know who are the OGs, that is the stay night's cast. If you mean to cater the newbies so they don't get confused, that's okay, but insulting someone for being correct in the fandom context only show you are what you insult them

[@tron0150]

Kinda cheating putting characters what "not a servant" but still appear in FGO like Zeus.

[@atofu6311]

Technically he's not summonable anywhere, so not a servant but a fate character anyway.

[@blackmage665]

I mean, how would his friend know the difference?

[@luvslotsastuff]

True and Sun Wukong and Moses are both mentioned in Fate and have designs, even if they haven't showed up in FGO.

[@DracoSafarius]

Blackbeard's thing was a tactic in the singularity, but in Chaldea he actually IS that into all the stuff. He's still ruthless underneath that, however, which works in his favor.

[@mousemessiah]

I think instead of just saying the class Ruler, you should have specified that the Ruler class are composed of servants that do not want the Holy Grail, rather, they function as anchors assisting the counterforce and are summoned when Holy Grail Wars become unstable. The only reason why a ruler wasn't summoned in stay night (ESPECIALLY Heaven's Feel) was Because Angra Mainyu corrupted the Grail, making it's particular functionalities unstable, thus preventing a Ruler from being summoned to set shit straight.

[@brandonhawker6597]

Yeah, Rulers are sort of a last line of defense for the Grail War system, meant to be summoned to correct and mediate things in the event that a Grail War gets out of hand, before the actual Counter Force itself has to step in and resolve things itself. Which, if we know anything from Archer, means that the Counter Force would have ordered the immediate termination of all sentient life in Fuyuki. During the Third Holy Grail War of the F/SN timeline, the Einzberns, seeking to win the War by any means necessary, took advantage of a failsafe system in the Grail to summon a Servant from outside the standard seven classes. This was Angra Mainyu, the Avenger Class Servant. However, he was the weakest Servant in the War, and upon his death, truly became what he had been called upon returning to the Grail. All the Evil in the World. This irrevocably and irreversibly corrupted the Grail, causing any wish it would grant to pervert itself and go horribly wrong (i.e, Kiritsugu's wish was to save everyone, and create a world without conflict. His method to do this would be to kill the few to save the many. He would have the Grail kill all who were evil in the world, and spare those who were good. The corrupted Grail would pervert this wish, killing everyone in the world except for Kiritsugu, Illya, and Irisviel) as well as disabling several of the Grail's failsafe systems. Among the disabled systems includes the capability to summon a Ruler Class Servant, something that could have been desperately needed during Heaven's Feel, as well as the failsafe ensuring only True Heroes could be summoned. This is why Gilles de Rais, Medusa, and True Assassin can all be summoned after the events of the Third Holy Grail War, because the Corrupted Grail, unlike the uncorrupted version, is capable of summoning Villains and Anti-Heroes. Fun fact, this also means that Vlad III and Jack the Ripper should not have been summoned in Fate/Apocrypha, as the Einzberns in that timeline's Third Holy Grail War summoned Shirou Amakusa, a Ruler Class Servant, instead of Angra Mainyu. Meaning the Grail was never corrupted. Meaning it should have been impossible to summon anyone who wasn't a True and proper Hero in Fate/Apocrypha.

[@camil3545]

@@brandonhawker6597 I believe the issue with Villains/Anti-Heroes was more that it was an intentionally built-in limit of the Fuyuki Grail to filter them out that was removed by the corruption, but Darnic removed that filter alongside the "All Assassins are Hassan" filter when he stole it. Aside from that though, Vlad III was considered a heroic figure in his own country.

[@brandonhawker6597]

@@camil3545 True on Vlad, but the general consensus outside of Romania is that he was a Vampire. This would have tainted his legend, making him more of an Anti-Hero.

[@brandonhawker6597]

@@camil3545 And regardless of anything else, the Apocrypha timeline Grail seems to operate off the same rules as the F/SN Grail, which it just straight up shouldn't. The fact that it *can* summon a Ruler Class Servant suggests all failsafes are in place, as the Grail hasn't been corrupted by Angra Mainyu, which is completely true as he was never summoned in the Apocrypha timeline. Despite this, the Apocrypha timeline Grail can still summon Anti-Heroes and Villains. This raises a plot point issue. If the Grail isn't corrupted, then the Failsafe preventing these types of Servants from being summoned should still be in place. Yet, it isn't. This leaves us with four conclusions. One, the Apocrypha Grail simply never prevented Anti-Heroes and Villains from being summoned in the first place. Two, it was corrupted in some way, prior to the Great Holy Grail War, but not to the same extent as the F/SN Grail was. Three, Darnic did something to it in between the Third Holy Grail War and the Great Holy Grail War. And fourth and final, the writers either ignored or forgot this plotpoint, and as a result there is a glaring plot oversight going on through all of Apocrypha.

[@camil3545]

@@brandonhawker6597 I believe that Darnic messing with it is the "official" reason, though i don't know if it was something in the original LN or added later on in side material. Still, people messing with the Grail's rules isn't new, Medea screwed with the rules to summon "Kojiro" when Hassan was supposed to be the only valid Assassin for Fuyuki wars, and even with Angry Mango, his corruption of the Grail was said to have taken place AFTER his defeat meaning that the Einzberns summoned an Anti-Hero Extra class Servant before the corruption even happened.

[@Llucmenork]

Ah yes, the Russian Impaler, of course!

[@P1ay3r7]

Should have put Ana or Gorgon there to confuse him

[@desmondmalone438]

4:03 DW: and he still isn’t Ozymandias: why must you make me lonely so

[@lolmanboss]

well there is a Caster Marie but here it is a Rider man, cmon...

[@carltonlee17]

1. Lu Bu is historically famous for using a polearm yes but more so for using ALL weapon type, his nobel phantasm have him use all type of weapon at once. 2. Romulus is a Lancer cause it is in his name, thus grand Lancer Romulus.

[@evansageser6943]

Yeah it's actually a pretty big plot point that Lu Bu isn't a Rider. It's the class he's most suited for as he was legendary as a horseman with his steed Red Hare. But he's also infamous for betraying practically every person he's ever served under, so he's essentially considered far too dangerous to have as a servant unless he's been deprived of his wits as a Berserker.

[@salty_lake]

You really know your stuff, awesome vid

[@zamtriostamer923]

Love the video but I would like to say that Marie is in fact a rider, I don’t know where you got caster from

[@zamtriostamer923]

Also I’m pretty sure Moses is actually in Fate already through a manga or something

[@steelbeans]

I got her mixed up with her summer version where she is a caster lol

[@marethyu_77gamer93]

@@zamtriostamer923 he is, but it's like Goliath, it's those characters that are very likely Heroic Spirits but are, for know, only appearing in backstories of other characters

[@kingofkongaz2036]

Columbus has no right looking that cool

[@nikolaytekuchev136]

Julius Caesar is a Saber in this game! He even complains about this when he's summoned.

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Servant with bow:archer Me:i can see Servant with staff:archer Me:uhh yes? Servant with sword:archer Me:ok now what in the actual fuck

[@ravaniphoenix5431]

The naming is dumb. It's only named as Archer to be consistent with the other knight classes. It should be named "shooter", instead, since the class is for those who're proficient with projectiles, no matter what it is. That's why David is an Archer. Because of the rock throw thingy being his Noble Phantasm.

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Indeed

[@crmsonred]

Archer makes sense because it's cool af

[@evansageser6943]

The Archer class really is made up of Archers isn't it?

[@GBlockbreaker]

@@ravaniphoenix5431 there is a class called Gunner that is just a subclass of Archer, if you think of ranged attacks archers are just the most prominent image that comes to mind when thinking of ranged attacks so they're all named that

[@Digidestined701]

I'm even more mad that he didnt get Holmes, considering that's the one where he started paying attention to the backgrounds, and he didn't notice the 221B on the door, which is Holmes' address 28:21 The reason Paul Bunyan looks like that is that they're from an event in Grand Order where the crazy version of Gudako (The one from the "Learn with Manga!" series) wanted to create the "Ultimate servant." They made a 1 star Paul Bunyan that's a loli. That's not the ACTUAL servant version of Paul Bunyan (Probably) it's just a joke character. 34:06 That version of Jack isn't the manifestation of the women that were killed, it's a wraith made form the souls of the abortions prostitutes threw into the river.

[@connorr8071]

Marie Antoinette is a Rider, not a Caster. Also, Gareth is a round table knight who isn't a Saber. She's a Lancer.

[@TheMetalWeirdo]

Fun fact: berserker Vlad III is actually the Lancer Vlad from Fate/Apocrypha (The same sereis where Achiles and Jeanne D'Arc is from). The Lancer Vlad in FGO is the actual 'Zerker Vlad from Fate/Extra (The same line as Nero). Don't know if anyone has said this before so I'm saying this now

[@GBlockbreaker]

Isn't it the other way around? Fate/Extra's Vlad is his original Lancer version and the Apoc anime used the Berserker design?

[@3plecheeseburger]

Wait. yeah nah, both Vlad III (F/A) and Vlad (F/E) were originally Lancer but they divided their class into Berserker and Lancer respectively in F/GO.

[@SonnyFRST]

Ah David, one of the most if not the most neglected Servant in FGO. Took 'em 2 years after his release to give him a Servant Quest, another 2 years to give his NP anti-giant damage and last I checked he's still using those crappy Year 1 stock animations.

[@ShiroNekoDen]

Lol just wait till he sees the fairy gender bent versions of the round table XD

[@trenomata5299]

Forget where I read it.. but there was a mention of Fate's Drake possibly being Queen Elizbeth and that she traded places with Drake to do what she wanted.

[@Clarent_Blood_Arthur98]

Lu bu is a berserker but his noble phantasm looks like he is an archer

[@lexx.wangmusic]

Thanks KZbin algorithm

[@areetablack5301]

Marie is a rider in that form

[@TakonoTakoUwU]

No Oda Nobunaga? man..

[@ChrisMorray]

"5 of these don't exist" except Zeus does exist, he's just not summonable.

[@SanzuRiver]

"Such a CHINESE NAME."

[@boyofjoygwarth-omaou3245]

The weapon romulus uses summon litterally ygdrassil

[@moonleung6384]

Is Jack the Ripper not the amalgamation of all the children who died after getting abandoned by their mothers?

[@BloodrealmX]

Jack is a gestalt wraith of all the tens of thousands of abandoned children and late stage abortions of the prostitutes of Victorian London.

[@DracoSafarius]

Abandoned infants, abortions and so on. Just for this version though. There's multiple possible Jack variations all based around possibilities of what/who could be behind the deaths.

[@d.n5287]

221B Baker Street right there in the card art.

[@sibsart2039]

Ah yes, Ruler Caesar. Also Marie is a Rider.

[@steelbeans]

Weve cleared this up several times, we were still talking about Sherlock. We clarify later in the video that Ceasar is a Saber

[@sibsart2039]

@@steelbeans got that ya

[@luce3]

He says he doesnt know why medusa is a rider but than he said he only saw 2 heavens feel movies, makes a lot of sence tbh haha

[@backpug1228]

Well, shouldnt Perseus technically be the rider, since og myth Medusa is only the mother to Pegasus?

[@luce3]

@@backpug1228 Eh this just became to complicated to me hahaha, but im sure they have some reason to make her the rider class

[@evanlogan3595]

She's a Rider because in Fate Lore Posiden gave her Pegasus as a gift (they were consensual lovers too), and because that's an event that represents her as an adult but before she became the Gorgon to protect her sisters from perverts.

[@luce3]

@@evanlogan3595 Ah that makes sence

[@jakewoodhouse9817]

Beserker Lancelot, by logic of the title Alter, would be the Alter version of Lancelot. An Alter form is typically the worst possible eventuality. Saber alter went full tyrant, EMIYA alter made guns his primary weapon, the very antithesis of who he is. Lancelot is a knight, held to the highest moral standards, to become a beserker over his own guilt for, as he sees it, betraying saber would be the worst thing to happen to him.

[@GBlockbreaker]

Literally 1 to 1 thought this when they said Lancelot Alter

[@Chronopie]

Doesn't explain Okita Alter, especially considering that technically the Shinsengumi dissolved into basically demonstrating the difference between regular brutality and police brutality. On the other other hand, Cu is a blood knight, but Cu Alter is basically just numb to everything but carnage.

[@GBlockbreaker]

@@Chronopie okita alter is the worst outcome cuz she isn't terminally ill which was her main reason to become a strong swordsman

[@teapartypenguin1353]

@@Chronopie Cu Alter the servant isn't the "real" berserker form of Cu though. He's a twisted, idealized version made from Mebd's wish. There is another berserker form of Cu out there that's been mentioned, but he hasn't been revealed in canon.

[@marethyu_77gamer93]

To be fair Alter form is more of a "reversed morals", so technically would could have an Evil guy whose Alter form is good, but yeah so far we only saw Evil Alters

[@Sofia_Sif]

I've downloaded FGO because of this video

[@steelbeans]

We are not legally responsible for that

[@G399_]

I’ve downloaded FGO because of this commentor

[@tometeles7192]

I much prefer Vlad Lancer.

[@Taygon45]

Medusa is a Rider because she has a Pegasus.

[@Alexrenda]

Julius Caesar is a Saber class

[@desmondmalone438]

25:36 yes he is a rider

[@Falconwing66]

I believe the Fate explanation for Jack the Ripper is that the collective spirits of the aborted babies of prostitutes discarded in the Thames. So many died that their resentment was recorded to the throne of heroes and tied itself to Jack’s legend. The throne did it because It had no identity to link the legend to in people’s minds and the girl is not even sure if she really is Jack.

[@GBlockbreaker]

Thanks to Strange Fake we got a proper Jack

[@DracoSafarius]

This is kind of true, but it's missing the vengeful spirit part. That was confirmed to be real, that they amalgamated into one or more spirits that went about killing people. It was around the time, so they got lumped in as a possibility for Jack the Ripper.

[@desmondmalone438]

22:49 *Buzz* actually she’s a Rider

[@desmondmalone438]

3:26 technically right

[@kaein2973]

Caesar is a ruler???

[@steelbeans]

Nah, I was saying Julius Caesar COULD be in the Ruler class historically, the just wanted to make him a saber.

[@kaein2973]

@@steelbeans ruler are those that qualify as saints and do not have a wish to have the grail

[@steelbeans]

@@kaein2973 Saint Sherlock Holmes

[@kaein2973]

@@steelbeans he was a caster before turning into a ruler when contracted by Ritsuka likely due to impartiality and unwillingness for the grail

[@itsarin2166]

@@kaein2973 or probably because the world just don't allow him to be summoned as a caster, I heard somewhere that if he was summoned as a caster he is able to uncover any mystery, so to make him more neutral and not able to unsolve every mystery he was summoned as a ruler.

[@KansaiCool]

Yo. These are fun.

[@SEIBALTER]

Anyone else got mad triggered when he called cesar a ruler class

[@chinwyian]

This version of Marie Antoinette was a RIDER, not caster. Must’ve confused it with the summer version

[@ussenterprise3088]

Bedi is a girl in the saber rout dub

[@ItachiUchiha-ih2zw]

He was kinda right about Vlad being a Lancer, as he is summoned in Fate/Apocrypha in this form as an Lancer! I don't exactly know why they changed it in the game, especially since his Game Lancer version looks more like an Berserker than this one here!

[@tkdarkheart]

Could be since the Vladzerker summoned is the one still affected by the forced berserker enhancement by Jalter? Maybe, I don't really know... But, I know his Lancer form is just the Vlad from Fate/EXTRA.

[@GBlockbreaker]

That's because Fate/Apocrypha technically used the wrong character design, Lancer Vlad can only be summoned inside Romania where his legend as the impaler overshadows his legend as Dracula, remember when he turned into a vampire in Apoc? That's what you'd summon every time you tried to get Vlad anywhere outside of Romania, of course Chaldea has security measures to ensure such monsters are restrained, allowing Vlad to keep his human form If you were to summon Lancer Vlad inside of Romania he'd look like the one from Fate/Extra

[@BloodrealmX]

@@GBlockbreaker Ah, of course, it makes perfect sense that, when summoned in his homeland he worked so diligently to protect, the local hero Voivode of Wallachia Vlad III would manifest as a cross-eyed idiot monster instead of an intelligent, composed leader... _WHAT?!_

[@GBlockbreaker]

@@BloodrealmX congrats, that's the exact opposite of what i said

[@BloodrealmX]

@@GBlockbreaker No, you said that If summoned in Romania he should look like Fate/Extra Vlad, who looks like a maniac, especially in his FGO artwork. The Apocrypha design is when he's summoned as a lord and a hero rather than as a battlefield warrior.

[@AnimePatriot]

In p5, the persona Carmen was a gypsy woman who would seduce and play with the hearts of men. She wasn't a vampire fyi.

[@diabetes897]

the weap romulus uses is a spear

[@GBlockbreaker]

No it's a tree

[@elfguy2007]

The picture you used for Marie Antoinette is her rider class not caster.

[@brakdanych4329]

the music feels sometimes to loud

[@loserme414]

Hold on, while true there's no Moses as a Servant yet, why wouldn't he be a Servant?!