This really is a great product. Been dialing in my custom E30 map the past few days. One thing that should probably be noted is to run E30 mix for now as saying "E85" will confuse those who just think this will let them fill up with a full tank of E85. As well as their Fuel it kit is JUST a Ethanol content reader. It does not act as a flex kit like the Cobb kit does. This is also fantastic if you need warranty work. This does not flash the ECU so you can pull it before any potential dealer trips.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@Kopernicus67 Жыл бұрын
Warranty work can still be denied, if the ECU recorded responses being out of whack. Just because the JB4 is fooling it, doesn't mean the ECU isn't seeing and recording other odd behavior. I'm certain that if you remove the JB4 and the dealer sees underhood bling, the fact that the plug connections are clean from recent fingerprints and the fasteners for the plastic under the engine are popped, they will know what you did, they aren't stupid, and a lot of the techs are reading and participating in these posts and own WRXs. They have to get signed off to honor warranty claims by their boss, who is usually a senior or former mechanic themselves. Find a mod friendly dealer and be done with it, they are out there.
@DylanCarGuy2 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for about two months on a custom map for E85. The power difference is significant.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@MidnightMadness4x42 жыл бұрын
Really cool stuff. I picked my 22wrx a month ago and easily the best car I’ve ever owned even though it’s stock. I may consider snagging a tuner though lol
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear!🔥
@Kiss__Kiss2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see this tuner enter the JDM production line of vehicles.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Yes with addition of the electronic waste gate to this platform it allowed BMS to be able to offer the JB4! We are hopeful to see this expand to other models that use the FA24 similar to the 2022 WRX!
@NGMonocrom2 жыл бұрын
I've said it before, the 2022 WRX is a Starter Car. Subaru gave us a car mostly finished. With an attitude of, "We know you're going to mod it anyway, go ahead." Explains the lack of any *real* increase in horsepower, along with the other things that are lacking. Want a completed car? Look elsewhere.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Suabru's have always been known for being built to mod straight from the factory which makes them great starter cars for new tuners!
@Tomas.X Жыл бұрын
Music to my ears...been shouting this into the wind against all those who portray themselves as "fans" but ceaselessly bitch about them. The VB was only available for 2-3 months before someone tore the 2.4FA down and reported the engine was over-built, easily exceeding the prior STI. I sold a tuned Outback XT and 650 hp GR STI, and stock off the lot my GT has been a blast. And if you're mindful, you can get 30 mpg+! (And looks? It's May 2023, and the bitching is down 90%. Just lowered mine 15mm and made a big difference. I have taken photos of my car that would change most haters minds. The VB is destined for bugeye legendary status.)
@BigBadBillyGATEZ2 жыл бұрын
As a previous WRX and Evo owner and previous built block Focus ST owner and previous owner of a Focus RS big turbo to now back to a stock Focus RS, I decided to give the JB4 a try on my Focus RS and on map 2 on a completely stock RS, it pulls like a stage 3 RS....now on E30 map 3 and I adjusted the waste gate via the JB4 setting to 80, it's just insane....do your research and understand what JB4 really does don't assume but research and how easy you can adjust settings. Also, it's been over 1 yr stock FMIC, cai, dp all stock, and plugs look good and car runs great.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
We're really happy with the JB4 and everything that it has done for this platform (and our WRX!)
@yoltsbp Жыл бұрын
You know this still voids warranty right? All they have to do is look at boost values to see that it was messed with.
@Subimods11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, we always recommend each individual customer contacts their dealer to see what voids their individual warranty. At the time of this video this was the only option for tuning applications.
@theblueninjazx10r2 жыл бұрын
Nice Hoping they work a beta kit for previous gen Subarus
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
We are hopeful to see BMS thrive and expand more into the Subaru side of things as well!
@ronjonbovi3184Ай бұрын
"Let's get into it" Cuts straight to the post install in car shot... :( How did you run the ODB2 to the cabin though?
@stevenconcepcion36372 жыл бұрын
I used this on my Elantra sport made a huge difference makes me want to turn in my 2021-WRX for a 2022 it seems a lot more tuner friendly. Gonna wait it out 2 years and see if they make any aesthetic changes to the WRX
@Loudwrx2 жыл бұрын
I got a 2020 wrx and im in the same boat as you.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
The 2022 is a solid upgrade in the performance category for sure!
@stevenconcepcion36372 жыл бұрын
Especially since this is all undetected I took my Elantra with the jb4 tune in all the time for warranty work I just pooped it off and they never noticed it
@777kason2 жыл бұрын
@@Loudwrx buy it. It’s a huge upgrade.. and it’s faster than a stage 2 wrx stock
@shaktishaker2 жыл бұрын
Itd be great if you showed install more clearly for layperson
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! We plan to do a similar video to this one in the future when we have our 2022 back!
@ashjudo2 жыл бұрын
I have the following Mods: Lightweight alternator, water pump and crank pulleys. ETS Cold air intake ETS Catback ETS J-pipe/Downpipe IAG Racing Pitch Stop ETS Top Mounted Intercooler Cusco Rear differential brace . Do you think the JB4 would have a Map that would improve the power I already have? Also, my car is an automatic it’s the WRX GT.
@Clemdogg2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely you do three third gear pulls if I’m not mistaken then send them the info and they send you a custom tune to run
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Correct, you can log pulls and send the to BMS for custom map tuning! Feel free to chat with our sales team via phone or email for more info👍🏻
@Clemdogg2 жыл бұрын
@@ashjudocan’t wait for updates on the new auto transmission and how it takes it please make videos I’ll love you forever lol
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisg5101 You know what we always say....mod it! Check our latest youtube video for that
@lukehonegger81132 жыл бұрын
How fast is your GT with those mods compared to stock?
@Clemdogg2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do a quick I stal video for the exact locations you plug everything into and mount it with zip ties like so we can see it all I’m sorry I’m new to this and don’t want to mess it up thank you again
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
@Dylan VB WRX has a fairly detailed install video👍🏻
@Clemdogg2 жыл бұрын
@@Subimods thank you
@brandondannys-menary36782 жыл бұрын
$529 seems like a good price for the performance gains, around 50whp with no other mods (hopefully reliably) seems also too goo to be true lol
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
The JB4 offers great bang for the buck!
@bcatchris2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think this would work on the 2022 on the GT trim? How would that work on the CVT (SPT)?
@maukaglass18602 жыл бұрын
Yup just ordered mine last night
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
We have confirmed with BMS that this will work on the WRX models equipped w/ the CVT transmission.
@ragnarokguild2 жыл бұрын
@@maukaglass1860 please post your feedback once you try it, very curious about how the cvt will handle the power.
@lilreyreyatomic2 жыл бұрын
Man idk if its a good idea, CVTs are notorious for not being able to handle more power and torque.
@marting39282 жыл бұрын
The CVT will not enjoy this. I would be very cautious of adding more power to it.
@dreamer8022 Жыл бұрын
Can you use this on the cvt model?
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@nicholasramirez41312 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAAA 😀
@romankartsev2202 жыл бұрын
If this tuning raises psi Boost wouldn't that be risky for blowing up the turbo or the motor?
@DarkWolfWRX2 жыл бұрын
Most tunes will raise boost. Cobb with E tunes/Pro Tunes. Its not just about raising boost but fueling as well. It is a very solid system and does not risk warranty as you would with a flash tune like cobb.
@WreckFatal2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkWolfWRX any time you tune the engine it automatically voids the warranty right?
@WreckFatal2 жыл бұрын
It would raise the boost but don’t think it would be risky with the 2022 models. I believe the 2015-2021 had around 18 lbs of boost from the factory. By increasing the size of the engine to 2.4L they have brought it down to around 13 if I’m correct and still kept the same HP. So you could theoretically bring it up to 18lbs of boost and it would be just as reliable as the factory tuned 2021
@DarkWolfWRX2 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal technically its doesnt "void" a warranty. An the dealer would have to prove fault of a tune for what its being repaired for. But thats a whole different battle. With the JB4 there is no trace of it being there like there is with a cobb flash tune. Nothing on the ecu is overwritten(which is what the dealer can see to know its been tuned). The JB4 simply sends stock signals back to the ecu while sending "tuned" signals to the sensors its connected to, pushing out more boost/fuel etc. For all the ecu knows its running stock and since its not a flash the dealer doesnt see it. Well, granted you actually remove it before heading into the dealer.
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
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@ToXiicCNsE2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if anyone is working on unequal length headers for the 22?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Not that we know of currently.
@brodisauris2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure unequal length headers cause some issues with direct injection and twin scroll turbos. Could be wrong, but I'm almost positive that it's the main reason subaru doesn't have them in the FAs. Just like BOVs, it'll just make the fa24 run worse
@203exclusivecustomsllc52 жыл бұрын
do think tuners will be able to pro tune with this to get better performance
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Eventually we think that'll be available with the JB4, as for now with the Beta version you can log pulls and send them to BMS for custom map tuning! Feel free to chat with our sales team via phone or email for more info👍🏻
@brandondannys-menary36782 жыл бұрын
I wonder if thin voids the stock warranty?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Only if installed
@MrTian1212 Жыл бұрын
This is no traceable, unlike Cobb that leaves ECU flash history and dealer can see. Also long as your car wasn't inspected with this on, no way anyone can tell.
@cuhchickle2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys not ship to California trying to order but says can’t ship to my address
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
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@hahaadventures48382 жыл бұрын
So what power/torque does it add on 91 octane?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Burger Tuning claims power gains up to 50hp on a stock vehicle.
@yongtimlim50382 жыл бұрын
@@Subimods SHEESH
@reza6582 жыл бұрын
Need this for the 22 brz
@PK-od8iu2 жыл бұрын
Jb4 is only for turbcharged vehicles
@Jez4prez12 жыл бұрын
@@PK-od8iu what happens if you turbo a brz? Still need to use Ecutek or something?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Ecutek or Haltech are great options!
@Jez4prez12 жыл бұрын
@@Subimods thanks
@actuallyrealcover Жыл бұрын
Despite its looks, it's growing on me. A lot of people are most def gonna sleep on this car.
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
We see it growing in popularity every day to be honest. The more you see them, the more you like them.
@Player-96 ай бұрын
Will this blow my engine? I was gifted one and am afraid of putting it in my car
@Subimods6 ай бұрын
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@tomkingslayer83752 жыл бұрын
will this break warranty?
@WreckFatal2 жыл бұрын
1000%
@lazarkool53762 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal do your research before commenting this does not break warrenty because it is just confusing the computer not flashing the car so you can remove and it is not traceable you clearly know nothing about this product so stop assuming.
@WreckFatal2 жыл бұрын
@@lazarkool5376 bro I literally bought a wrx today and asked them. Said they connect a device to the car and it tells them if anything has ever happened to the computer or engine after factory
@lazarkool53762 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal yeah that’s if you flash the ecu this does not flash the ecu for example if you use a Cobb tuner then the dealer can see that because your actually tuning the car the jb4 is called a piggyback so it’s is not messing with the computer just confusing it so when you take it off car goes back to stock and they will never know it is on there.
@Clemdogg2 жыл бұрын
Yea this can’t be detected as long as you remove it
@LAdumpsterbaby2 жыл бұрын
dyno results?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
We have not put this car on a dyno yet.
@JC-fo9bj2 жыл бұрын
Installing this voids warranty?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
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@Kopernicus67 Жыл бұрын
JB4 is great, I've used it on Audi/VW cars in the past. However, Burger tuning is new to the Subaru platform. Yes, they are turbo experts, but the boxer engine, its pluming and programming are very different from the Euro engines they have been tuning for a long time. If you run JB4 you MUST submit your logs to Burger for them to look at and suggest tweaks. Out of the box, from the data I've seen posted it tends to run LEAN, and if you do even a simple swap of filter and remove the charcoal panel, it will be LEANER. LEAN = DEATH for a high compression turbo engine. They are a very responsive and helpful company but you have to utilize it! Don't consider this an OTS solution.
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
Definitely some good insight - any time components are changed that will effect air or fuel, the tuner should be contacted for adjustments, as the cars factory components can only compensate so much.
@yoltsbp Жыл бұрын
@@Subimodseven in the video if you watch the afr when you guys did the pull I think the most I saw was 12.2. Under high rpm full throttle pulls you want to be more like 11’s
@mrsubaru5367 Жыл бұрын
Im at 15.3 psi stock on 93 exonn
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
Bet it feels awesome!
@namtrinh61422 жыл бұрын
Wrx 2022 and sti 2021 Which one faster bro
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
There are too many variables involved in this! Fast is a feeling. If you're pushing the limits of the vehicle, anything can feel fast.
@namtrinh61422 жыл бұрын
I'm looking out . and don't know if it's worth the 37k value?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
@@namtrinh6142 Depends, they're 2 different vehicles, with 2 different engines so it is difficult to compare. Either way you cant go wrong
@nobobo24012 жыл бұрын
does this void warranty?
@Vtec20s2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
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@MrJrsyco2 жыл бұрын
Will it work on the outback xt 2022
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
No this product is designed for the 2022 WRX.
@videosvideos62432 жыл бұрын
It works for it: burgertuning.com/products/jb4-tuner-for-subaru-wrx
@forestenglish66762 жыл бұрын
Look at vehicle fitment.
@MrTian1212 Жыл бұрын
App cost additional 28 bucks?! Yeah, Cobb it is...
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! At the time we made this video, there was no other option for tuning these vehicles
@Crynomical2 жыл бұрын
My car pushes 13.7 :o
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're running Map 1 93+ !
@mrsubaru5367 Жыл бұрын
I think i will get a cobb
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
Definitely an excellent choice!
@tannertracy2265 Жыл бұрын
AFR looks super lean. I’d be careful with that
@Subimods Жыл бұрын
We've were monitoring it closely while it was in use. Since we unveiled the Cobb Accessport for the 2022 WRX at SEMA this past November, we have been utilizing that, and a protune from R/T Tuning in PA as seen in our newest video.
@anthonydesiata2732 жыл бұрын
Someone's motor blew on this :(
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Was it a WRX or other vehicle?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, we'll take a look into that.
@dauntlessasmr79102 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this just ticks me off. Not the video content! That was great. The fact that Subaru wants enthusiasts to pay significantly over $30,000 for a new WRX that is bigger and bloated than every other one that came before it. Then has the nerve to call all of the stock trim levels a "Performance car." But if you want it to actually be that, you have to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars more to have specialists modify it to be an actual Performance car. By the time you're done, you would have been better off getting a 2022 Golf R. Probably saved some money. Definitely saved a ton of time having it at the specialty shop being worked on; and still had a factory warranty. Or, just buy a Hyundai Elantra N if having a lockable trunk is important to you. Take it to the track same day you buy it!
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
We're glad you enjoyed the video! We get it, there are other options on the market to make more power with less money but this WRX is certainly a good car for a certain driver. We're excited to see how this new FA24 handles more power especially we get our hands on a supercharger kit for our BRZ.
@shaktishaker2 жыл бұрын
No dyno numbers? 0 to 60?
@Subimods2 жыл бұрын
At this time, we do not. When this video was shot we were getting busy to work on all of the sema stuff. Hopefully in the future we can do this.